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June 29, 2023, 08:28:58 AM
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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

This can distract you if you're focused on the game, but if you're worried about your team if they happen to lose, it won't always be an easy rest, especially if the bet loses. Alcohol and weed are also very dubious ways to relax, but many people use these methods because they are available, especially alcohol, since it is available almost everywhere in the world. To refrain from such methods, you need to have a strong will and a stable psyche.

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June 29, 2023, 09:05:32 AM
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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. [/quy]

I can't even say which of the categories of addiction is more worse than each other for someone to be an addicted gambler, a chronic alcoholic and drugs addict and many other forms of addiction that could be of disadvantage to us and our entire live with assets, addiction is generally believed to be uneasy to end and the only advantage there is to avoid them by not getting started than finding a means to control them when they have gone out of hands.

Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

The reason for gambling is not to even have money or make money through it, we gamble to have fun and it creates friendliness among the people, it makes people have a course to relate well with each other and have pleasure in doing it, gambling is what brought diverse opportunities for the people to enjoy through the process and make money from doing so and violence with abuse is not part of the purpose created for gambling.

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June 29, 2023, 10:50:31 AM
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However, we should be able to use gambling as entertainment and not to make money. How hard we try to make money from gambling will not be easy because we must think about luck, which cannot always come when playing gambling. That is why we must control our emotions so we are not provoked to continue gambling and know when to stop.-snip-

I always trying to learn from my experience, I failed to play slots just for fun. Due to one reason, when I've just played a slots few times, I get maxwin. And than, Maxwin managed to change my way of thinking about playing only for fun, to the desire to win. Of course, this will definitely be experienced by those who are new to gambling, because maxwin is always a beautiful story to tell fellow gamblers, even though we have taken the wrong way in gambling.  Cheesy

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June 29, 2023, 11:25:37 AM
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It should always be our mindset , we gamble for a reason so if we could eliminate it then that is a good sign that we are starting to not play anymore, though the problem is that life we already built a habit on it meaning we keep doing it or finding it , that is why we should always train our selves not stop it   and try to keep your self busy on other things so that you will not gamble , as mostly for sure if you got bored that is the time you are thinking to gamble so keeping busy ourselves can prevent it also.
If we already have a gambling habit, we should try to create a new habit that will distract us from gambling and slowly stop gambling. Only by having new habits can we leave old habits and reduce the time we spend playing gambling. If we don't start now, maybe we won't be able to start new habits where our minds have started to focus on gambling, which will make us deeper into gambling. Maybe we can busy ourselves first by doing other things in anticipation of thinking about when we will return to gambling again. And if we continue to do other things, we can slowly reduce our gambling activities until finally, we can control ourselves.

I always trying to learn from my experience, I failed to play slots just for fun. Due to one reason, when I've just played a slots few times, I get maxwin. And than, Maxwin managed to change my way of thinking about playing only for fun, to the desire to win. Of course, this will definitely be experienced by those who are new to gambling, because maxwin is always a beautiful story to tell fellow gamblers, even though we have taken the wrong way in gambling.  Cheesy
You can prevent yourself from stopping gambling for a while after getting Maxwin because I think Maxwin will be the biggest temptation for you so you continue gambling. Your mind will want to repeat getting Maxwin again another day, so this makes you go back to gambling even though you know getting Maxwin isn't easy. I think this has also been experienced by other people, especially those who have managed to get Maxwin. The desire to get big wins in gambling will always arise and we want to continue it again.

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June 29, 2023, 02:02:04 PM
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I always trying to learn from my experience, I failed to play slots just for fun. Due to one reason, when I've just played a slots few times, I get maxwin. And than, Maxwin managed to change my way of thinking about playing only for fun, to the desire to win. Of course, this will definitely be experienced by those who are new to gambling, because maxwin is always a beautiful story to tell fellow gamblers, even though we have taken the wrong way in gambling.  Cheesy


What you experienced with Maxwin while gambling is nothing but your brain makes you feel that you are the king of gambling with that dopamine release. Then you lose and your brain alerts your thoughts and makes you realize it was real. I am sure you would have gone through the guilt phase wherein you would have regretted that you downplayed your conscious mind. The most common situation that everyone experiences while gambling.
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June 29, 2023, 02:18:24 PM
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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it. 

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.

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June 29, 2023, 09:11:34 PM
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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself.

I can't even say which of the categories of addiction is more worse than each other for someone to be an addicted gambler, a chronic alcoholic and drugs addict and many other forms of addiction that could be of disadvantage to us and our entire live with assets, addiction is generally believed to be uneasy to end and the only advantage there is to avoid them by not getting started than finding a means to control them when they have gone out of hands.

Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

The reason for gambling is not to even have money or make money through it, we gamble to have fun and it creates friendliness among the people, it makes people have a course to relate well with each other and have pleasure in doing it, gambling is what brought diverse opportunities for the people to enjoy through the process and make money from doing so and violence with abuse is not part of the purpose created for gambling.



You said "we" but the point that is being made in this thread also is that there is no "we". Everyone treats gambling differently, or the problem is that gambling treats some people differently and not the other way around because gambling takes control of them. That is the problem. I believe that people who tend to have issues with drugs or alcohol also would tend to have issues with gambling as the dopamine that is set free through these activities is similar as far as I know. I am not an expert but I think I remember some research saying that there are similarities. That is why the question whether it is easy or hard to quit differs from person to person. If gambling releases dopamine fireworks in one brain but not in the other brain, the person with dopamine fireworks probably has a harder time to quit.

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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it. 

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.
You wouldnt really be having the feeling of regret once you do accept your fate on the time that you do gamble.It is really just that a matter of acceptance on how things goes and since we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just that normal that we would really be losing most of the time and this is something that you should really be aware about so that you wouldnt really be making yourself that impulsive and trying out to chase up your losses. Only allocate on the money or funds which you could really afford to lose and dont go into a certain extent on which you would really be
that believing that you could really be able to win up games most of the time because thats not how reality works. The only thing that you should really be that minding is not to make yourself that get
addicted into it because on the time that you do get addicted then its not really something easy to get out on such thing and this is where most people do fail on doing so, this is why you should really be that careful.

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June 30, 2023, 07:23:42 AM
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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it. 

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.
That is exactly the way gambling should be seen, when I spend my money and watch a movie and I enjoyed it, do I regret it? Of course not, instead I am happy I took the decision to watch that movie, even if I had to spend some money to do so, and when you gamble with the same intentions then there is nothing to fear as you will spend some money in exchange for the entertainment you were looking for, it is only when people deviate from those intentions that they can get in trouble and regret their decision.
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June 30, 2023, 10:09:13 AM
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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

This can distract you if you're focused on the game, but if you're worried about your team if they happen to lose, it won't always be an easy rest, especially if the bet loses. Alcohol and weed are also very dubious ways to relax, but many people use these methods because they are available, especially alcohol, since it is available almost everywhere in the world. To refrain from such methods, you need to have a strong will and a stable psyche.
If you get drunk or use weed the benefit is different as it was give you pleasure even if you spend a lot. Unlike gambling, as you spend more and lose it all, you never feel happy but are disappointed with the results. And gamblers get into addiction because they are desperate how to get their money back. It was difficult for them to get out of such an addiction when their mind is always thinking about the money.

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June 30, 2023, 10:20:30 AM
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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending.

Yes, that's true, there's no how you will be angry at getting yourself satisfied and being fulfilled because you have already planned it out  before time, but when the unfortunate occurs, that's where we make the wrong mistake on funds misappropriation for using them to gamble or have fun while they were not meant for such purpose, the objection here is not on gambling but on our wrong actions and steps towards gambling.

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.

And we must not act being foolish by thinking the gambling we are about to play is very sure for a positive outcome, when we bet and loose, we will not like the shape to where we are going to landed at, there's a way we can always avoid these through caution before taking steps or decisions towards gambling.
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June 30, 2023, 10:48:30 AM
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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it. 

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.
That is exactly the way gambling should be seen, when I spend my money and watch a movie and I enjoyed it, do I regret it? Of course not, instead I am happy I took the decision to watch that movie, even if I had to spend some money to do so, and when you gamble with the same intentions then there is nothing to fear as you will spend some money in exchange for the entertainment you were looking for, it is only when people deviate from those intentions that they can get in trouble and regret their decision.

If you exceed from that original intention and once greed dominates your mind, the chance that you'll lose control and lead you
to a tough situation where you will keep on asking for more.

Gamblers always have that self-will before they start to gamble, it's just the change in desire that affects your mindset when you engage
that much into gambling, being out of control lead you to addiction.

But same with you, if you treat gambling as part of your entertainment and the amount of money, you're willing to spare is for the
sole purpose of gambling, win or lose you can quit without any regret.
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June 30, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
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You wouldnt really be having the feeling of regret once you do accept your fate on the time that you do gamble.It is really just that a matter of acceptance on how things goes and since we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just that normal that we would really be losing most of the time and this is something that you should really be aware about so that you wouldnt really be making yourself that impulsive and trying out to chase up your losses. Only allocate on the money or funds which you could really afford to lose and dont go into a certain extent on which you would really be
that believing that you could really be able to win up games most of the time because thats not how reality works. The only thing that you should really be that minding is not to make yourself that get
addicted into it because on the time that you do get addicted then its not really something easy to get out on such thing and this is where most people do fail on doing so, this is why you should really be that careful.
There's some serious wisdom in your words. Acceptance of the gambling process, and the losses that often come with it, is indeed a mature approach. But remember, acceptance doesn't mean complacency. We can still seek to improve our game, can't we?

Imagine you're trying to cross a river. You could accept that you might get swept away...or you could learn to swim. The same goes for gambling: losses might be part of the game, but that doesn't mean we can't fight the current.

As for your remarks on addiction... Yes, it's a beast to fight off once it sinks its teeth in. But I believe in people's ability to change. And I firmly agree with your gentle warning about the dangers of becoming too engrossed. After all, the journey is more enjoyable when you're not dragging a ball and chain behind you, right?

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July 01, 2023, 12:22:24 PM
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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

This can distract you if you're focused on the game, but if you're worried about your team if they happen to lose, it won't always be an easy rest, especially if the bet loses. Alcohol and weed are also very dubious ways to relax, but many people use these methods because they are available, especially alcohol, since it is available almost everywhere in the world. To refrain from such methods, you need to have a strong will and a stable psyche.
If you get drunk or use weed the benefit is different as it was give you pleasure even if you spend a lot. Unlike gambling, as you spend more and lose it all, you never feel happy but are disappointed with the results. And gamblers get into addiction because they are desperate how to get their money back. It was difficult for them to get out of such an addiction when their mind is always thinking about the money.

The same can happen to you with drugs because what you do is you make yourself forget things or consider them in a more relaxed way, but as soon as the effects of drugs are gone it can result in depression and issues feel worse than they actually did before or than they actually are in the first place. All these things that make you forget time are bad in a very high number of cases. Some people get along well with drugs and use them as a tool, but too many people don't realize when they lost control over the drugs and the drugs / gambling actually took control of them.

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July 01, 2023, 12:54:33 PM
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You wouldnt really be having the feeling of regret once you do accept your fate on the time that you do gamble.It is really just that a matter of acceptance on how things goes and since we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just that normal that we would really be losing most of the time and this is something that you should really be aware about so that you wouldnt really be making yourself that impulsive and trying out to chase up your losses. Only allocate on the money or funds which you could really afford to lose and dont go into a certain extent on which you would really be
that believing that you could really be able to win up games most of the time because thats not how reality works. The only thing that you should really be that minding is not to make yourself that get
addicted into it because on the time that you do get addicted then its not really something easy to get out on such thing and this is where most people do fail on doing so, this is why you should really be that careful.
There's some serious wisdom in your words. Acceptance of the gambling process, and the losses that often come with it, is indeed a mature approach. But remember, acceptance doesn't mean complacency. We can still seek to improve our game, can't we?

Imagine you're trying to cross a river. You could accept that you might get swept away...or you could learn to swim. The same goes for gambling: losses might be part of the game, but that doesn't mean we can't fight the current.

As for your remarks on addiction... Yes, it's a beast to fight off once it sinks its teeth in. But I believe in people's ability to change. And I firmly agree with your gentle warning about the dangers of becoming too engrossed. After all, the journey is more enjoyable when you're not dragging a ball and chain behind you, right?

If we like what we're doing then the journey shouldn't end in quitting. Losing is always part of gambling but we should be wise in dealing with it as that's part of the risks that we're taking. To lose never means to quit.
We can rest and stop for a while to condition our minds but we can also look for alternative and effective strategies for us to enjoy our journey more.
It is given that there will only be two results but we should know how to play the game of gambling. It will take us into a roller coaster ride of emotions so we must be prepared emotionally.
As long as we're not experiencing gambling addiction, then we must enjoy what we do. Losing might discourage us but it shouldn't be a reason for us to hate what we are doing but rather a motivation for us to seek good strategies.
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However, we should be able to use gambling as entertainment and not to make money. How hard we try to make money from gambling will not be easy because we must think about luck, which cannot always come when playing gambling. That is why we must control our emotions so we are not provoked to continue gambling and know when to stop.-snip-

I always trying to learn from my experience, I failed to play slots just for fun. Due to one reason, when I've just played a slots few times, I get maxwin. And than, Maxwin managed to change my way of thinking about playing only for fun, to the desire to win. Of course, this will definitely be experienced by those who are new to gambling, because maxwin is always a beautiful story to tell fellow gamblers, even though we have taken the wrong way in gambling.  Cheesy


This is the problem. I understand that Maxwin may change your mind. But it would be best not to continue gambling once you hit a Max win. It will end up losing your money. I never got a Max win in any slots. Now I am curious how often you have hit Max win and which provider games give Max win too frequently. I have been gambling but failed to hit a single max win.

I do not play that much because I know I may lose all my bankroll. Maybe because I believe that you won't every time. We lose more than we win. So, we shouldn't take gambling as a source of making money. Instead, I see it as entertainment.

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This is the problem. I understand that Maxwin may change your mind. But it would be best not to continue gambling once you hit a Max win. It will end up losing your money. I never got a Max win in any slots. Now I am curious how often you have hit Max win and which provider games give Max win too frequently. I have been gambling but failed to hit a single max win.

You’re right considering how RTP works. Hitting max win early gives you the advantage on getting the higher RTP. User should really stop playing that same slot because it will be very hard to win same max win amount on same games in a row because it will now accumulate money from other bets just compensate on the max win payout and fulfill the RTP. Taking profit and move on is the best way on securing profit out from this very rare huge win.


I do not play that much because I know I may lose all my bankroll. Maybe because I believe that you won't every time. We lose more than we win. So, we shouldn't take gambling as a source of making money. Instead, I see it as entertainment.

Correct thinking to be entertained and at the same time bet safe. Most of the slot RTP is below 96% which means player has a guaranteed loss of 4% in long term playing. We are hoping to hit huge win early in able to win against the casino and not by staying longer and playing same games overtime.

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July 01, 2023, 01:28:24 PM
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when y'all say you don't gamble to make money but rather for the fun of it, trust me I get confused.
Is it that you don't make earnings from gambling or, you don't have a strategy with which you gamble with??

What happens to your earnings from gambling since you're not gambling for the money.
When people say they gamble for fun, not that they don't have strategy which they play witch help them in winning, and not that they are not winning, but they are not desperate for the money, they are not gambling because they really need to make money. If they are gambling and they win, they will take the money and if they lose it wont affected them.

If you you are gambling basically for money, then you will easily get addicted to gambling, because you will always chase your lose, which means you are already getting addicted to gambling, but when you gambling for fun, you wont care if you lose and most people that gamble for fun don't gamble with big amount of money.

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July 01, 2023, 01:29:29 PM
Last edit: July 02, 2023, 02:07:00 AM by Learn Bitcoin
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This is the problem. I understand that Maxwin may change your mind. But it would be best not to continue gambling once you hit a Max win. It will end up losing your money. I never got a Max win in any slots. Now I am curious how often you have hit Max win and which provider games give Max win too frequently. I have been gambling but failed to hit a single max win.

You're right considering how RTP works. Hitting max win early gives you the advantage on getting the higher RTP. User should really stop playing that same slot because it will be very hard to win same max win amount on same games in a row because it will now accumulate money from other bets just compensate on the max win payout and fulfill the RTP. Taking profit and move on is the best way on securing profit out from this very rare huge win.

I have seen some gamblers continue playing the same game, hoping for another big win because they think this slot is better and lucky for me. Sometimes they have another big win in less than a hundred spins, and they continue because they believe this is my lucky slot. There are different kinds of streamers as well. People tend to follow their advice and follow what games they are playing.

We don't understand one thing when you see a streamer playing on the same platform's means that platform sponsors are not real money and cannot be withdrawn. Most of the time that money is provided by casinos for streaming purposes. Those streamers don't really care about losing.

So, as a gambler, we should not follow streamers to learn how to gamble and which game we should play.

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Well, some people continue playing even after winning big, hoping to win even more. I assume that most of the time, these winnings are only added to the player's bankroll, without deciding to withdraw any or even a portion of it. I think this scenario is primarily observed among common gamblers who lack discipline. On the other hand, those who are disciplined enough will cash out some or all of their winnings and then take a break, enjoying their profit.

I was able to turn my $50 into thousands, but then I lost it all the next day. It has happened multiple times. That was a depressing experience, but I need to move on from it and learn. It happened because I lack decipline.

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