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June 15, 2023, 09:05:21 AM
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Gambling has been a widespread form of entertainment for centuries. I Googled how many people gamble and on the first site they write that about 1.6 billion people around the world gamble. And this is almost 20% of the world's population. Gitnux also writes that at the same time 4.2 billion play at least once a year.

The world of gambling is diverse, and people's attitudes towards various products can be amazingly different. Each gambler finds a game that suits their taste. At the same time, many people who gamble are not even aware of their involvement. I want to study the ambivalent attitude towards different gambling products.I want to start with the reasons for such a different attitude.

Reason 1: Perception of risk
One of the main reasons is the perception of risk. Certain forms of gambling, such as sports betting and casino games, are perceived as high-risk activities that can lead to significant financial losses. On the other hand, lotteries are seen as a relatively low-risk option, perhaps due to the low ticket price and their legality at the government level.

Reason 2: Social acceptability
Certain entertainment carries a greater degree of social acceptance compared to others. For instance, bingo is commonly regarded as harmless, while roulettes, sports betting, poker, or blackjack often carry negative associations, including addiction and irresponsible behavior.

Many people have a negative attitude to gambling, not even realizing that their passion for bingo is also gambling addiction. This case is interesting because people generally don't classify bingo or lotteries as forms of gambling.

Reason 3: Accessibility
In many countries, lotteries are widely available and easily accessible, often operated by the government. Conversely, casino games may face restrictions or even be prohibited. This disparity in the treatment of different forms of gambling within a country can significantly influence public attitudes towards them. For people, products approved by the state are deemed acceptable, while anything that is prohibited tends to generate a negative perception.

The main arguments against gambling are:

  • Prohibition at the state level.  As I have already said, gambling is prohibited or strictly regulated in many countries.
  • Addiction. For example, playing slot games or sport betting people lose money and can't stop. At the same time, no one talks about dependence by lotteries. It is the fact that many countries are allowed to play the lottery that has created a positive image around this game. But there are enough examples when people lost everything trying to win the main prize in the lottery.
  • Scam. It is worth remembering that fraud is not only in gambling. However, the scammers of several such projects spoil the reputation of the entire sphere as a whole.
  • Banditry. I think it has to do with negative images in movies. After all, no one will watch a movie about how thousands of people play in a casino, and then go to work, lead a normal lifestyle. Therefore, they make films about bandits who conduct dishonest business.
  • Everyone loses. This myth came from the fact that people declare losses loudly and it is remembered. For example, people will not remember hundreds or thousands of other people's winnings, but they will remember 1 case when a person lost an apartment and job due to gambling.

Attitudes towards gambling products have evolved over many years and are shaped by the complex interaction of all the aforementioned factors.

Positive attitude to the lottery
Typically, gambling activities are frowned upon by society, but lotteries enjoy immense popularity and trust. Many individuals perceive lotteries as acceptable, primarily because they offer the possibility of winning substantial sums, and the proceeds from ticket sales often contribute to vital social programs like education, culture, and healthcare. However, it is important to recognize that despite the general perception, lotteries are indeed a form of gambling.

Lottery operators tend to target the most vulnerable members of society, with individuals from lower-income brackets more likely to allocate a significant portion of their earnings towards purchasing lottery tickets. This is primarily fueled by the lottery's promotion of the notion of "get rich quick". Surprisingly, many countries approve of this phenomenon, with lottery ticket sales points found everywhere. Regrettably, the potential consequences of fostering unrealistic expectations and financial irresponsibility often go unnoticed.

It is crucial to acknowledge that lotteries possess one of the highest House Edges, ranging from 7% to 30%. This substantial margin ensures that lottery owners amass significant profits, given the extremely low probability of players winning. In lottery play, luck remains the sole factor upon which players rely. In contrast, casino games like blackjack offer players greater opportunities to win, as they can employ strategies and skills to enhance their chances of success.

Attitude to the casino games
When comparing casino games to lotteries, one can observe that casino games tend to exhibit greater honesty and transparency. Within a casino setting, the rules of the games are clearly outlined, allowing players to ascertain the probabilities of winning for each bet they place. While it is crucial to remain vigilant against scammers, it's important to acknowledge that fraudulent individuals exist in various aspects of life, including the realm of gambling. Nonetheless, numerous countries are actively working towards regulating gambling, and operators are increasingly adopting responsible gaming.

Criticism
Criticism towards gambling persists, with the belief that these games have a detrimental effect on society by exacerbating wealth inequality and contributing to social issues.

Different forms of gambling possess unique characteristics and allure, yet their impact on participants and society varies. The crucial factor lies in approaching gambling responsibly, implementing legislative regulations, and promoting social awareness. These measures can help alleviate the negative consequences of gambling and minimize its risks for both individuals and society.

As previously mentioned, the regulation of lotteries plays a significant role in rendering them accessible and less hazardous to people. In countries where casinos are prohibited, a multitude of underground and illicit operations arise. In such illicit establishments, responsible gaming is disregarded, and operators prioritize extracting as much money as possible from players. Engaging in such underground activities puts individuals at risk of falling victim to scams, and they have no legal recourse against these establishments due to their involvement in illegal gambling. Therefore, it is essential to regulate all forms of gambling, fostering a positive perception of fair and lawful gambling practices.

What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?

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Artificial intelligence is involved in the future even more people in the casino. The gambling industry cannot be stopped
About lotteries - I do not believe and do not buy tickets
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June 15, 2023, 10:39:15 AM
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Congratulations for a great OP Bayan_D40. About the second reason you pointed out:


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Reason 2: Social acceptability
Certain entertainment carries a greater degree of social acceptance compared to others. For instance, bingo is commonly regarded as harmless, while roulettes, sports betting, poker, or blackjack often carry negative associations, including addiction and irresponsible behavior.

Many people have a negative attitude to gambling, not even realizing that their passion for bingo is also gambling addiction. This case is interesting because people generally don't classify bingo or lotteries as forms of gambling.

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What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?

Maybe the reason why people don't see bingo (or lotteries) as forms of gambling is that the risk of addiction is perceived also as lower, compared to other games like poker or slots. We make the difference between soft and hard drugs, so I would say that we unconsciously make the same comparison when we think about different games.

You're right that one can also get addicted to bingo or lotteries, but at least it seems that it is not so common. It would be positive if we could  see the real numbers.

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June 15, 2023, 10:46:51 AM
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What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?
It's because of how involved it is directly with money. Literally gacha games are the same, loot boxes are the same, and it's spending money to randomly get something from the game, but in a gambling game's case, you spend money to try to earn money. It's that simple notion that brings up negative connotations to it since it attracts a LOT of people to spend more since, well, on paper, it pays you back if you win, maybe more.

There's a high chance it's going to change, at least well, by separating the notion of addiction to gambling itself since gambling is a legitimate source of entertainment, just that it's probably gonna take some time, and a lot of replacements for people who still have the old mindset, or refuse to acknowledge what gambling really is for.

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Last edit: June 15, 2023, 07:05:33 PM by QueenVera
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My goodness to what essence  is this entire episode that I have to read?
Did you get your caption after writing the message? Meh this is so long and there is no way you'll  expect me read all of this just to know the ambivalent attitude to gambling and also your choice of words aren't impressing to me.
I didn't also notice any references  to your work except that of the world population count from Gitnux which simply implies that all your writings were typically from your head without any  citation.
I will advice that you have a recheck on your work  and possibly  add some references to it.

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June 15, 2023, 11:19:11 AM
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Reason 1: Perception of risk
One of the main reasons is the perception of risk. Certain forms of gambling, such as sports betting and casino games, are perceived as high-risk activities that can lead to significant financial losses. On the other hand, lotteries are seen as a relatively low-risk option, perhaps due to the low ticket price and their legality at the government level.
I don't know about other areas but in my own country both sports betting, casino games and the lottery as all recognized by the government and operates legally. So if am to use my vicinity as a case to study to the issue of ambivalence attitude in gambling I'll say a great number of gamblers I have come in contact with around here have never taken part in lottery games, not ones in the entire time as as gamblers in sports bets and casino games.
So the crowd that are into these sports betting and casino games makes it obvious and easy for people to see the negative impact that comes with it whereas that of lotteries ain't noticeable cause the numbers involved are not significant and the negative impact which is same as those of casinos games and sports betting is overlooked. So in summary, the number of people involved in the latter and the former, hence the ambivalent attitude that be.

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What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?
I think preference plays another important role here as to why people give different attitude to certain gambling product against the others whereas in a whole they're all still categorized as gambling activities.

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The main arguments against gambling are:

  • Prohibition at the state level.  As I have already said, gambling is prohibited or strictly regulated in many countries.
  • Addiction. For example, playing slot games or sport betting people lose money and can't stop. At the same time, no one talks about dependence by lotteries. It is the fact that many countries are allowed to play the lottery that has created a positive image around this game. But there are enough examples when people lost everything trying to win the main prize in the lottery.
  • Scam. It is worth remembering that fraud is not only in gambling. However, the scammers of several such projects spoil the reputation of the entire sphere as a whole.
  • Banditry. I think it has to do with negative images in movies. After all, no one will watch a movie about how thousands of people play in a casino, and then go to work, lead a normal lifestyle. Therefore, they make films about bandits who conduct dishonest business.
  • Everyone loses. This myth came from the fact that people declare losses loudly and it is remembered. For example, people will not remember hundreds or thousands of other people's winnings, but they will remember 1 case when a person lost an apartment and job due to gambling.
Some of these are not arguments, they are all reality that have happened to some gamblers in the past. New gamblers can read and gain from it, that gambling is not a way to make money as it can lead to loss of money and addiction.

The one I can see not valid is banditry. Good people too are gambling and are not bandits.

The one I like most is that everyone loses. Although not everyone that will lose, but this statement alone will let new gamblers and stale gamblers to know that they should not use high amount of money gamble. We call it you can not win the house. House edge.

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June 15, 2023, 11:24:21 AM
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Artificial intelligence is involved in the future even more people in the casino. The gambling industry cannot be stopped
About lotteries - I do not believe and do not buy tickets


Lotteries I do believe but I don't buy tickets as you need to play several years for every week or bi weekly when they held the draw of them and the chances to win after several years still remain slim.Of course the gambling industry cannot be stopped as they come up with all sort of new slot machines which greatly deceive you that they are not taking your money when in fact they are taking it,they operate with the "slow killing" mode of operation and we rarely are aware that our money is going away.Whatever attitude we have toward gambling we need to make sure to not cross the line as after that level only bad things are in serve for us.

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June 15, 2023, 11:31:31 AM
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If I must getting something from all you said is just about lotteries/gambling..
Let me draw your attention on these aspect of your post, I can't dispute the fact all you said is correct but there is a sentence you said that Lotteries are guaranteed and trusted more than gambling.

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Positive attitude to the lottery
Typically, gambling activities are frowned upon by society, but lotteries enjoy immense popularity and trust.


On my little keyboard punch from Wikipedia

"Gambling is the wagering of something of value on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted. Gambling thus requires three elements to be present: consideration, risk, and a prize."

From the above quote, Lotteries and Gambling posses the same qualities, whatever activities that leads to you staking money is gambling, and in lottery you also buy a ticket to stand a chance of winning something big which also involves staking money. I don't know why people should treat gambling as something very risky, whereas both of them posses same risk factor of one intending to lose money, as a matter of fact, Gambling specifically sport betting often carry's a higher amount of players (Gambler who stakes over the sport). When we talk about the risk factors of some casino's or gambling site scamming their bettors, you also flash or google as well to know some of those people who won lotteries they have refused to payout such huge amount of money which was resulted in law case.
I wouldn't want gambling to be painted as something very bad over lotteries whereas they both posses same quality and tendency of one losing their stake amount.

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June 15, 2023, 11:32:53 AM
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Criticism towards gambling persists, with the belief that these games have a detrimental effect on society by exacerbating wealth inequality and contributing to social issues.
Gambling is a way of life that those who criticize gambling can't understand. Gambling is part of human and nothing can change it. Though,the strong religious people can see it from this side because it is against their belief.

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What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?
Because it ruins those people that don't have self-control over their gambling activities due to addiction. It will never change,because everyone has his own perspective on gamble

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June 15, 2023, 11:42:41 AM
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It seems that lotteries are not included in gambling because we may experience seeing many people collecting tickets from shopping, collecting points, or others, which can be exchanged for certain prizes depending on the number of their tickets. Even though it falls into the gambling category, the business owner packages it into entertainment with prizes so that it makes people not see it as gambling.

The lottery has now changed into many varieties and forms so people don't think it is a hidden gamble. They keep collecting as many tickets as possible to get their desired prizes. So it depends on the attitude of each person. If they judge the lottery as gambling, they can't buy and leave it. Or if they feel that's okay or not a form of gambling, they can buy the ticket or collect as much of the lottery as possible.

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June 15, 2023, 11:46:21 AM
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When comparing casino games to lotteries, one can observe that casino games tend to exhibit greater honesty and transparency.

I don't agree with your opinion about your comparison of casinos and lotteries you tend to generalize your comparison, here in our country lotteries are government-run and they run on transparency openness, and honesty that is why after three decades not one questions the results of the lottery.

Artificial intelligence is involved in the future even more people in the casino. The gambling industry cannot be stopped


The data will always be headed up and many more casinos online and offline are launching this is the most lucrative industry, and they sustained a lot of business, like entertainment, catering business and employ millions of people and of course, the taxes that the government is enjoying.
Even in countries where gambling is prohibited, it flourishes underground because there will always be gambling supporters and communities, and where there are communities you can always find gamblers.

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June 15, 2023, 12:14:28 PM
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If I must getting something from all you said is just about lotteries/gambling..
Let me draw your attention on these aspect of your post, I can't dispute the fact all you said is correct but there is a sentence you said that Lotteries are guaranteed and trusted more than gambling.

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Positive attitude to the lottery
Typically, gambling activities are frowned upon by society, but lotteries enjoy immense popularity and trust.


On my little keyboard punch from Wikipedia

"Gambling is the wagering of something of value on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted. Gambling thus requires three elements to be present: consideration, risk, and a prize."

From the above quote, Lotteries and Gambling posses the same qualities, whatever activities that leads to you staking money is gambling, and in lottery you also buy a ticket to stand a chance of winning something big which also involves staking money. I don't know why people should treat gambling as something very risky, whereas both of them posses same risk factor of one intending to lose money, as a matter of fact, Gambling specifically sport betting often carry's a higher amount of players (Gambler who stakes over the sport). When we talk about the risk factors of some casino's or gambling site scamming their bettors, you also flash or google as well to know some of those people who won lotteries they have refused to payout such huge amount of money which was resulted in law case.
I wouldn't want gambling to be painted as something very bad over lotteries whereas they both posses same quality and tendency of one losing their stake amount.
Exactly, that's what I meant. Lotteries are part of gambling, where people spend money for a chance to get a potentially big win. People may hate casino games, but they buy lottery tickets every day and say that gambling is bad. Although they also gamble

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My goodness to what essence  is this entire episode that I have to read?
Did you get your caption after writing the message? Meh this is so long and there is no way you'll  expect  .w read all of this just to know the ambivalent attitude to gambling and also your choice of words aren't impressing to me.
I didn't also notice any references  to your work except that of the world population count from Gitnux which simply implies that all your writings were typically from your head without any  citation.
I will advice that you have a recheck on your work  and possibly  add some references to it.
I have heard different opinions about gambling over the years. You're right, all I've written is my thoughts. Does the discussion of any topic require constant references to various sources? I want to hear the opinion of the others. You may disagree with me and share your opinion on the topic

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I have heard different opinions about gambling over the years. You're right, all I've written is my thoughts. Does the discussion of any topic require constant references to various sources? I want to hear the opinion of the others. You may disagree with me and share your opinion on the topic
Since all that is written are your thoughts then there is no need to share any link since you don't quote any external content in your discussion and also why the user requested for a link is because of the lengthy episode written just to pass your messages.

And also there is no doubt that most of the things you mentioned in this thread are what we have been discussing here on the board and we have always pointed them out and served as a warning to the rest of the forum members.
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I don't agree with your opinion about your comparison of casinos and lotteries you tend to generalize your comparison, here in our country lotteries are government-run and they run on transparency openness, and honesty that is why after three decades not one questions the results of the lottery.

Government lottery systems are the most significant questionable system. Arnt you not question the total financial system of the government by being an active member of this forum? Then how can you say they are transparent? Your statement is just jargon to my brain.


Maybe the reason why people don't see bingo (or lotteries) as forms of gambling is that the risk of addiction is perceived also as lower, compared to other games like poker or slots. We make the difference between soft and hard drugs, so I would say that we unconsciously make the same comparison when we think about different games.

You're right that one can also get addicted to bingo or lotteries, but at least it seems that it is not so common. It would be positive if we could  see the real numbers.

The risk is always the same but they think the financial loss is much lower than gambling. I haven't seen, heard, or read of anyone spending every day $10 on buying lottery tickets. The max they would pay is like $100 on those lottery tickets. The financial risk is very less with lotteries when compared to gambling on a casino.
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Criticism towards gambling persists, with the belief that these games have a detrimental effect on society by exacerbating wealth inequality and contributing to social issues.


The critics of gambling opined that more people lose in gambling their money than they gain from it. And if we compare this to what we see around us we may also believe this as it further creates wealth for gambling casinos and game shops. To buttress this point, you see more gambling houses being established which points to submit with the critics that losses are more on the part of players which is why more game house are springing up. The symbolic idea therefore is that it takes from the majority and gives to the few who are probably rich thereby creating more wealth inequality because you hardly win more against owner.

About the social issues that emanate from gambling, some critics also allude that it leads people into bad vices especially the young and youths who are easily convinced follow their friends in taking part in illicit activities other than gambling. This critism is subjective however because it depends on individual.

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June 15, 2023, 01:41:04 PM
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Although there is an ambivalent attitude towards gambling, lotteries are not among them. Lottery system separate jackpots are huge, which is the main attraction for lottery ticket buyers. In particular, large payout lotteries like Powerball tend to increase ticket sales when the jackpot continues to roll. Gambling is more risky than lottery. Lotteries are included through the sale of tickets but gambling addictions lead to bad outcomes and they affect not only the addict, but also their family and social environment.

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June 15, 2023, 02:11:00 PM
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What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?
Nothing will change, if you combine an attitude of ambivalence, that attitude is always side by side with every gambler, especially for those who are already heavily addicted.

You must know someone who is involved in the world of gambling, whether it's online or offline, whether it's you, myself or someone else, always has a contradictory attitude, in another sense, namely being passive-aggressive when you experience losing or winning in gambling, because we know when making bets in gambling what will happen, such as: events, situations, emotions, losses and so on, that's when positive attitudes and negative actions arise in us.

No wonder someone who is involved in gambling is always in conflict with two things, namely hate and love, negative and positive, these two things often happen when betting on lotteries, slots, poker and so on, for that anyone who gambles always has an ambivalent attitude, that attitude will not change at any time.

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June 15, 2023, 02:29:36 PM
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Criticism
Criticism towards gambling persists, with the belief that these games have a detrimental effect on society by exacerbating wealth inequality and contributing to social issues.

What do you think? Why is there such a different attitude to gambling products and will it ever change?
Religion and the culture affects the whole perception to every gambler and we cannot change that one, what we can do is to accept it.
This is why most of the gambler prefer to gamble on their own and play online than to go to casinos. Different perception to gambling varies on every belief and culture, there's no way to change this one because religion comes a long way even before gambling. If this is against the belief of your community, expect to receive lots of criticism, just focus on what you think is right and be responsible for that.
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