Equal society is possible....

[Zoomic]

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If everyone in the society is equal in all ramification, there will be chaos.  What we should focus on should be ensuring that we all enjoy peace and live in harmon; everyone should have a sense of belonging.

This your statement is the truth about equality I totally agree with you,  when there is peace equality will not have significant effect people felt they are less value when they lack peace.
Nature has be designed for mankind to exist in stages, assuming everyone is equal to the president who will give command or everyone has equal financial status who will be a labourer to feed others. Equality can't work. But one thing is that when peace exist human shift from there level to another, as a labourer today can end up employer of labour that is why I so much agree with odohu that it will be a Chao's.

An equal society does not mean everyone will be in the class of the elites. If everyone belong to that class, there will be no balance and it will certainly cause more problems than good for the people. Irrespective of the amount of wealth one has to his name, everyone should still be given equal rights. This is where the equality comes In. No one should be prevented from enjoying certain benefits simply because they are poor. An equal society where everyone shares thesame right and benefits can  actually be achieved if everyone can drop their pride and live in harmony with one another. This is the only way we can bridge the gap between the rich and the poor in the society.

[Manlikefrank1]

The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?

To be honest I don’t think the society can ever have a equal social Class in the society even Karl max classified the society into three categories.and the world we live in can’t accept that foam of equality

[Volimack]

Because people don't want to live in a united way an equal society is not possible. The picture of reality is full of various inequalities and inequalities. How much justice can we do one man to another man. There is room for doubt in this regard as well. As humans we are divided into selfish individuals and classes. What I think is right or think or think right for my own needs the same sense of justice or sense of right is viewed from a different perspective towards another human being.

[Bushdark]

Because people don't want to live in a united way an equal society is not possible. The picture of reality is full of various inequalities and inequalities. How much justice can we do one man to another man. There is room for doubt in this regard as well. As humans we are divided into selfish individuals and classes. What I think is right or think or think right for my own needs the same sense of justice or sense of right is viewed from a different perspective towards another human being.

Nothing is equal even though there are saying that conclude that all things being equal, nothing is meant to be equal.
We just have to keep living the life we are meant to leave. Just like we know that getting a job is based on connections and information every though everyone has the same level of degree, there are still people that would take the position not because the merit it but due to many reasons that make things inequality. There are people of high classes while also the middle class and lower class is also available.

[Jewan420]

If we want to talk about inequality and equality in society then equality and inequality in society exist only in stories or in different textbooks.

We see some warning written before various dramas or cartoon videos saying, "The characters, place and period of the said drama have no resemblance to reality". At present, the equality and discrimination of the society is almost like this.

But, I will not say that the social system of all the countries of the world is like this. There are many countries in the world where social inequality is real and noticeable.

[Antonil]

If we want to talk about inequality and equality in society then equality and inequality in society exist only in stories or in different textbooks.

We see some warning written before various dramas or cartoon videos saying, "The characters, place and period of the said drama have no resemblance to reality". At present, the equality and discrimination of the society is almost like this.

But, I will not say that the social system of all the countries of the world is like this. There are many countries in the world where social inequality is real and noticeable.

I agree with your statement 100%. Karan The social system of more than half of the countries in the present world is just for show.  Every street in their country, every advertisement says stop discrimination. But in reality they are the ones who engage in more discrimination.  Which is very shameful.

[SATWAT]

If we want to talk about inequality and equality in society then equality and inequality in society exist only in stories or in different textbooks.

We see some warning written before various dramas or cartoon videos saying, "The characters, place and period of the said drama have no resemblance to reality". At present, the equality and discrimination of the society is almost like this.

But, I will not say that the social system of all the countries of the world is like this. There are many countries in the world where social inequality is real and noticeable.

There is no doubt as you are saying all is right but with this all its really challenging having society on equal basis because then still we will miss many things which are important in life and this is surely having another troubles for the many as we will have all things in books and dramas with in reality we are completely different and things never been gone as we have in these test books and related dramas and films just because of this we are still unable to achieve many things which were talk many decades back and having huge impacts on human's history, but we are never able to achieve this equality in humans and our society because this is really hard in reality with just good for the read and watch.

[moneystery]

i don't really believe that there will be an equal society in this world, because for a long time humans have lived in a system where there are social classes in society, such as nobles, poor people, etc. in fact, religion itself is against the existence of an equal society, because when that system is formed, humans will be under the same government, the same language, and the same goals, and some religions have also warned against this. so as long as religion still exists in this world and people still live by their standards, i don't think that an equal society will exist.

[uneng]

An equal society does not mean everyone will be in the class of the elites. If everyone belong to that class, there will be no balance and it will certainly cause more problems than good for the people. Irrespective of the amount of wealth one has to his name, everyone should still be given equal rights. This is where the equality comes In. No one should be prevented from enjoying certain benefits simply because they are poor. An equal society where everyone shares thesame right and benefits can  actually be achieved if everyone can drop their pride and live in harmony with one another. This is the only way we can bridge the gap between the rich and the poor in the society.

That is the difference between equality and equity. In a system where equality prevails, every individuals have the same rights, obligations and are treated in the same manner by the justice system, while in a system of equity, the central party or government attempts to flatten everyone to be on the same level, what is a fallacy by itself, since this kind of system can't work in a fair way because everyone is different from each other, and such differences can't be flatten by an external imperfect force from another human beings.

Then we just have a bunch of demagogic and populistic tyrannical governors trying to impose this concept of social politics on their territories, which never work, and only creates further inequality and uprisings.

A generic and simplistic comparison between equality versus equity.
Equity is a system which encourages laziness, passivity towards life and parasitism.

[darkangel11]

I've always said that equality can only be pursued in certain areas, for instance you can make the law treat every person the same way despite of how much money they have and how well educated they are.
You can't force equality in all areas because of personal differences we have in our genes. For instance, if you pursue equality in education you will lower the expectations and make smart people learn less than they could. You'll create a society of underperformers.
The deal is very similar when we look at finances. When someone makes a lot of money and you punish him for it, you'll stop scientific progress. You actually want a lot of Musk's in society who make a lot of money and spend that money to drive the economy. You don't want to run these people to the ground with taxes.

[Hispo]

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It is a different way to look at it, which most of people would also understand.
Within the political spectrum one could find parties or movements which are either in favor of equality of opportunities, while there are others more into equality of results.
Those who are in the political right are more into equality of opportunities, while the left is more into equality of results.
For example, a government which is in favor of equal chances/opportunies will offer affordable education and access to food for children, and in the case some of the children chose or could not continue to study and later in life not to be able to affort a home for it, they will disregard that.
On the other hand, a government which favors the equal of results, will try everyone to be able to have a home or afford one, regardless whether they chose/could study and get a good job earlier in their youth.

Because, it is correct what you say. Each person has gotten their own particular and personal challenges and it would be impossible to reach equity by treating all of them the same way, that is why in some of the works of Marxism, it is encouraged not to treat all of the citizens equally, but doing things in that way is justified within the theory to reach equity or the abolition of social classes.

[uneng]

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It is a different way to look at it, which most of people would also understand.
Within the political spectrum one could find parties or movements which are either in favor of equality of opportunities, while there are others more into equality of results.
Those who are in the political right are more into equality of opportunities, while the left is more into equality of results.
For example, a government which is in favor of equal chances/opportunies will offer affordable education and access to food for children, and in the case some of the children chose or could not continue to study and later in life not to be able to affort a home for it, they will disregard that.
On the other hand, a government which favors the equal of results, will try everyone to be able to have a home or afford one, regardless whether they chose/could study and get a good job earlier in their youth.

Because, it is correct what you say. Each person has gotten their own particular and personal challenges and it would be impossible to reach equity by treating all of them the same way, that is why in some of the works of Marxism, it is encouraged not to treat all of the citizens equally, but doing things in that way is justified within the theory to reach equity or the abolition of social classes.

Indeed. The leftist libertarian spectrum doesn't agree with the idea of "Meritocracy", and since they believe the idea of equality is directly related to Meritocracy, they think it's not enough to reach their utopian society, where everyone will be, in theory, equal. Therefore, they push the concept of equity ahead as the final solution. The point is that if you aren't rewarded for your merits, you will feel discouraged to continue developing yourself as individual and as a gear of your local society. On long run, it will only work for the total collapse of the community.

There will be always people with more difficults to develop themselves as individuals and to thrive in life. The point is that these people have to count on the good will and benevolence of the ones who are in better conditions to continue evolving in life as well, instead of governments seizing belongings and forcing people who are in better conditions to live on the same low standards of the rest of the population, as the equity in misery were the solution for all the problems in the world...

[Zanab247]

It will be difficult for you to see such society in the world these days because, there are some people who don't want to work but they are looking for free things to collect from the society and sometimes they will be laughing at those that are seriously working hard to become a better person in the future and, to see equal people to such society will be very hard.

If family members cannot be equal in the family because father will love one pass the other one and mother will love one pass the other one which will be difficult for full society that is bigger than family to be equal in wealth and other things because, there will be poor people in the society and there will be wealthy people in the society.

[AVE5]

The only function equality in every society is the law that's states "No one's above the Law".
So what poor need most in a societies now they can stay away from being oppressed by the riches and how the government would always have an effective lawful exercises equal at every living being without undermining their differential portfolio.
But talking about having a more comfortable live in the society is some what the poor can't dare with the rich because the riches will always be reachable to what their funds can afford them such as the worldly materialistic and infrastructures.

That's why it's necessary for a Nation to have laws that doesn't discriminate or having a upper class and lower class citizens in its nation else there would always be segregations amongst everyone in a society.

[Hispo]

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There will be always people with more difficults to develop themselves as individuals and to thrive in life. The point is that these people have to count on the good will and benevolence of the ones who are in better conditions to continue evolving in life as well, instead of governments seizing belongings and forcing people who are in better conditions to live on the same low standards of the rest of the population, as the equity in misery were the solution for all the problems in the world...

Though, the problem begins when we depart of the fact we all (as human beings) are more inclined towards selfishness than towards charity and seeking to help others to solve their problems. I don't think the state is supposed to completely ignore social problems and just allow people to fend for themselves, but I am not either in favor of a totalitarian government which would seek to abolish all social classes and make us all to live under the same conditions.
You know, there are things which happen to people which they don't have control over. It is not the same to give a free house to someone who decided to drop out college than someone who developed cancer and needs medicine and treatment to save their life. Nobody chooses to get cancer or get sick, in anyway and in those cases I believe the government should intervene.

It is not a coincidence most of the happiest countries in the world happen to be those who have universal healthcare for their residents.

[TEBTC]

You can only theories about equal society in the real sence there can't be an equal society any where in the world because society is classified from the beginning of the world till now
The best you can do is to walk your way out of your current position as an individual so you get some respect from people but talking about an equal society it is not possible

[Essential10]

Equal society is possible....

If we look back from the beginning of the world, there has been a disparity between the rich and the poor which has continued till now. To be honest, it is not possible to build an equal society in the world. There are different countries in the world with different languages, religion, culture and food. It will be possible to build an equal society in the world if you try to reconcile the differences in language, culture and food, but it is not possible because of the differences in religion. It seems to me that people will not compromise on religion even if they accept everything else. Equal society is possible on paper but impossible in reality.

[Cryptoprincess101]

The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?

So far as the hunger to be at the top continues, every one can never be equal in the society reason being that we all are humans but created differently because there are things you know and you are able to comprehend them perfectly but I may not know even if I try to I may not be as perfect as you are that is just nature for us and coming to the society we are now, the rich wants to get Richer and take home everything without caring about how the poor ones in the society are doing instead they will even see where the poor ones are trying to survive from and still take it from them so there is no relationship between the poor and the rich because Normally, the rich always roll with the rich so there is no place for the poor and that brings about inequality in the society.

[BADecker]

The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?

Actually, those in control are the ones who destroy themselves and their control. Their greed does this. They use their control to harm the poor people. It happened over the last couple hundred years in Hawaii.

History shows that the people find a way to take the power away from the wealthy controllers who are harming them. Maybe Karl Marx was honest in his thinking. Maybe he wasn't the kind of person who would harm anybody. Maybe he truly wanted to benefit the people. But if he really was a good guy, then he underestimated the ambition of some people to take control, and their ignorance regarding how their wrong use of their control would destroy their control while harming a bunch of little people.

If you want to see what happened in Hawaii, watch this interview between Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard - https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-tulsi-gabbard/.

This is the big flaw in Karl Marx. Maybe it can be overcome with a true Bitcoin-like, decentralized economy... set up so that there can be no controllers.

[JoyMarsha]

For me, as long as life exists,all men must not be equal. The equality demanded by each generation of the human race has never achieved a perfect conclusion because it is the trajectory of life. And in any given society, there must be inequality of human importance, we only campaign for the rule of law to stipulate fairness for the benefit of the common man.