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June 16, 2023, 08:50:34 AM
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I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

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June 16, 2023, 09:00:40 AM
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This is kind of off-topic and not relate to gambling discussion or gambling.

Humans are of complex behavior and anything can change them at anytime. Humans can have one behavior today and change tomorrow to something better or worst. That is just how people are.

You can see someone that give the testimony that after he become a religious person, that he is no more gambling again. You can see someone that sees it as fun because not all they call a sin in a religion that some people think are sin, example is fun gambling (and not addiction gambling) and moderate drinking of alcohol.

But in short, people are different and people's way of thinking are different. Religion may let someone not to gamble again but some people will continue to gamble. That is just how people are.

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June 16, 2023, 09:10:16 AM
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Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

It all depends on the conditions attached, if the gambler newly converted is also a newbie to gambling he may easily quit and be submissive to his new faith, also if he's left with no alternatives than to depends on them for his survival then he has to go by thier dictates especially when the new religion doesn't allow gambling, but if in the case of an addicted gambler, am sorry they will have alot of efforts to give

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Don't be surprised people change, especially when they have passion for what they are doing, if he truly determined to change, he can achieve that over time gradually.

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

He may later be caught so it's better not to start what will lead to shame, if he can't cope with their rules then he should alert them.
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June 16, 2023, 10:10:55 AM
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I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?


Not actually if you are a compulsive there's still a big chance that you came back and gamble. Gambling is forbidden by Islam but I know one of my neighbor still doing it despite that its been discourage to do on their religion. So having this said its still depends on the person since no one can stop each individual to participate on activities related to gambling. Maybe there's a time they would stop buy for sure they came back especially when they start to get bored then still have an access to any gambling platform.

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June 16, 2023, 10:11:12 AM
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I think it's obvious that yes.
there are religions that require a series of "forced" almost anti-natural actions, I'm not mentioning anything specifically, however .... asking not to bet it could be considered as something normal.

keep doing it secretly? certain religions admit error as an intrinsic part of faith.
in theory I think it's something acceptable. but I think also that each specific case is something apart...

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June 16, 2023, 10:14:09 AM
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In many religions, gambling is indeed considered a sin, but despite this, there are still individuals who choose to engage in gambling activities. It is true that religion alone may not be the sole determining factor for someone to change their behavior. Ultimately, it is up to the individual's personal beliefs, values, and choices. Religion serves to teach people what is considered right or wrong, but the acceptance and adherence to these teachings depend on the individual's own decisions and level of commitment.

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June 16, 2023, 10:25:51 AM
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This is only possible if the person is not an addicted gambler or a Chronic gambler and again such person's does really surrendered him or her self purely to the religion because I strongly understand every believer of any religion are a dedicated member who are truly routed into that commission and would never wants to act against their ethics and religious.

So, those who are merely converts may not stops gambling and until they understand the things of their doctrine and have fear to follow those things carefully may lead them to stop gambling, hence if the spirit is not convinced and the body is willing such person would certainly go back to gambling. Until the body and souls is routed and convinced then such persons will definitely quit gambling and must not be given a space otherwise whenever he comes to his carnal body he might go back to his past did.

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June 16, 2023, 11:18:29 AM
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Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
It will be difficult for an addicted gambler to stop gambling but it is not impossible being that the level of devotion that one has to a religion can help them break free from habits and help them to change their ways to be in line with the doctrine and principles of the religion they believe in. If a religion that someone chooses abhors gambling, they have to change to become strong devoted believers of that religion. A new convert may struggle with his addiction to stop because he just got converted, but as he increases his devotion to his religion, it can help them gain self control of themselves and strong discipline to stop gambling.

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June 16, 2023, 11:28:09 AM
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Here in my country, there are many sects and religions, and I have seen some people who convert from one sect to another for convenience but still continue with their old habits, the elder or the leader of the sect or religion should monitor the convert if he really changes the habit and views about gambling so he can guide him to repent and change his ways.

Chance can really happen if he is true to his heart he converts to one religion or sect because he needs to change his way for a better life here and in the afterlife not because of conveniences from work or because he wants to have a good association and reputation.

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June 16, 2023, 11:31:47 AM
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I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

There are some religions that have strict rules against gambling and forbid all adherents to gamble.
But no religion can force adherents to stop gambling because it is a choice like someone who has just entered or converted to a religion that is not under any coercion from anyone.
A religion teaches truth and virtue so it depends on the people themselves whether they can comply with the prohibitions in their religion or not.

As an example, my own religion strictly prohibits gambling, but I still do it because it is my choice and I am responsible for what I choose.

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June 16, 2023, 11:35:55 AM
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I'm sure all religions have restrictions on gambling, so there's no need to mention any religion, because almost all of them have bans on gambling, but if you're already an addict, it seems difficult to stop them, not just religion and sin, but even their families might not want to hear what if being advised about sin and religion about the gambling ban, I think it will be difficult, I have friends who have different religions and they say the same.

I think religious people know about the sin and prohibition of gambling so everyone doesn't care about it anymore or maybe those who don't believe in religion so they continue to be gamblers and play, but still religion can't force people to stop gambling because all depending on the gambler.

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June 16, 2023, 11:40:17 AM
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I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

Religion can influence a gambler to quit. If you have ever been under a religious teaching consistency you would understand that religion is influential. It has the power to change anybody's behavior gradually and sometimes immediately. The teachings of some founders of these religions are inspirational and you can accept them without rational thinking. These religions also have good counselors that are experienced in handling many kinds of disorders. I was counseled by a religious marriage counselor and I find her advice valid today. But stopping gambling also requires the willingness of the gambler. If you are not determined to tackle gambling addiction these religious teachings will not influence you. You should accept that you have a problem and you must show readiness to control your gambling activity.

Continuing to play in the secret is hypocrisy. It shows that you are not a true believer in the religion or unwillingness to quit. It is very difficult to stop an addiction which is why it is better never to start one.

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June 16, 2023, 11:45:28 AM
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I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

That will depend on two things here; first is is the new convert ready to follow that religion deligenty? or is he/she just there for the sake of being identified as a follower of that religion but they are not ready to follow their doctrine.
If they are ready to submit their self to the teaching of their religion then it will be possible for a compulsive gambler to stop gambling totally, but they will also need to be monitored during their period of their early withdrawal so that they can help with continuous advice and therapy by the religion leader.

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Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?


Like I said, they will need constant monitoring because it will be difficult for them to just call it a quit all by themselves they need the support of others. If they are left to do it all by themself they is a possibility of them returning back to gambling or do it secretly if they feel they will be disgraced if noticed by others.

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June 16, 2023, 01:50:51 PM
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I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?


I have heard of people doing so by converting to really strong,rigid and against human rights religion like Islam is in my view.I live now in a country with the majority of the population being Muslims and I have seen a lot of ongoing talks from the I don't know how they are called the spiritual leaders that every Friday call for people to quit immorality,gambling and alcohol drinking.It has worked in some degraded persons in the sense that they are back now not doing these things anymore but they are now just robots who don't enjoy anything in life anymore,and as bottom line even this is not really stopping from gambling,mostly is stopping from life pleasures.

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Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?


Is it possible to play secretly with someone you believe in? I think that in every religion, there is a reminder that God sees everything. Who will this player be trying to fool? If he considers religion to be a new trend and being a believer is just a consequence of fashion for him, then I think that the passion for both the game and money will prevail in his "religion."
Christians have an expression: "You cannot serve God and mammon", so for a real person who wants to follow the laws of religion, there should always be only one choice.

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Religious teachings have a very strong motivating effect, so I believe that when a person is deeply immersed in religion he can easily cope with any addiction. I have heard that even addicts who use hard drugs have overcome their addiction with the help of religion. So it is possible to get rid of gambling addiction, alcoholism, obesity and other ailments with the help of religion. But you have to understand that a deep dive into religion will change your outlook on life very much.

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June 16, 2023, 02:33:50 PM
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Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

That's possible, because I often see people who have started to pursue a religion or have recently changed religions because this is very likely to happen, have changed into a different person leaving many of their old activities that are not in accordance with the religion they currently adhere to, so even when it may not be possible for people who have just experienced a change in religion because they feel a new sensation that encourages them to change to become a better person, including stopping gambling, especially if it is not recommended in their new religion.

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
maybe when the religion he adheres to is only based on inheritance from his parents or when he does not study that religion so he only becomes a follower and not one who carries out the teachings of that religion.

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June 16, 2023, 02:38:03 PM
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Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?


I think the person will be gambling but could be doing it secretly so that other believers in his or her religion will not judge him if they catch him gambling, which could be considered a sin or disobedience to the true believers of their religion. Although the attitude of every human is different, some people will say that "as our faces are different, so are our attitudes and characters." Some people can really get dedicated and buried in the beliefs of their religion, which can just make them take a turn and shun gambling or anything that their religion condemns.

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June 16, 2023, 02:47:42 PM
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Talking about religion is actually a sensitive matter, moreover this is the realm of gambling. But let's talk about something say a person can stop gambling because of religion. Theoretically, yes, in the end, many people stop taking actions that are considered bad, not just gambling, but in any case. So I'd say religion can push a person away from gambling.
Indirectly, I have also heard a lot from any religion which in their teachings prohibits gambling. I don't want to say much about this, so I'll return to each individual.

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June 16, 2023, 03:09:48 PM
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Quitting gambling requires awareness on the part of a person and not coercion. Even if he is forced to stop, if he does not know that gambling has made him addicted to gambling, he will not stop, and maybe he will continue to gamble secretly.

It's certainly not easy to open his mind because he is already addicted to gambling. But if he realized he had made a mistake and wanted to cure his gambling addiction, he might have the chance to do so. And if he eventually converts to a certain religion and finds out that gambling is forbidden, maybe he will realize that and be able to stop gambling.

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