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June 18, 2023, 01:51:09 PM
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I have also noticed it.
And perhaps it is not a matter of spam being done on purpose but some coincidence of people who have had bad gambling experiences and decided to talk about it here, Instead.

In the end, because of the freedom this forum offers, those users have the right to open those thread, as long as there is no bad intention aiming to damage this section of the forum.

Perhaps if some moderator included a rule or stuck in the first page a dedicated thread to discuss gambling addiction, then we should not see this kind of volume on that topic.
Also, the objective is not scaring people away from gambling,.just letting them know about the financial and psychological risks that come with it, which is something the very casinos do in their FAQ pages.

It can be called a coincidence when one or two topics are created for the same issue. When more than 3,4 & 5 topics pop up in a span of a day or two then it cannot be a coincidence. I do see a good amount of replies on those topics, some have more than 6 pages. That means users are also enjoying replying on those topics or trying to spam them with nonsense. As these topics are not self-moderated why not start reporting them to the mods as spam?

I understand that the forum does offer every user the right to write a topic on any issue. When an issue continues to be brought up with different titles then it is considered as spam. What I found worst is that a few of them were created on the main Gambling board. I did not find anyone suggesting the OP, move those topics to the discussion board. Those who created those topics hardly replied to any of those replies on their thread, did you check that?

I believe we need to start reporting them to the mods. The mods can then lock the thread or delete them it is their choice.
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June 18, 2023, 02:45:41 PM
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The topics and discussion about gambling addiction is becoming too much and too often to the point that most newbie may likely get scared away from gambling which will not be ok for the casino revenue generation so at this point I am force to ear my view of this topic of gambling addictions, becoming too much in this board.

Or what do you think?

I noticed the same that more topics about gambling addictions are created and also that more people are writing in the topics. The most messages I read in the threads are not about people actually being affected by gambling, but rather people giving advice on how to avoid the addictions. I don't really see a problem of these topics here, because it might help some people to fight their addiction or avoid it too get it to such a severe point. Also these are not really negative posts that people should avoid gambling all together. The most common advice here is to gamble responsible and only use money that we can afford to lose. These are good tips and reading them multiple times is not a bad thing for beginners, even though most people gamble here have been members for a long time.

Based on my understanding on OP point here. He is not against the repetitive gambling addiction topic but it’s effect to the casino that most of us here are promoting on our signature space. Some signature campaign participants that endorsing casino is suggesting not to gamble while the business they are promoting will gonna be affected when customers is reduced.

But in general, this gambler addicted is only few and will not gonna hurt casino industry. Casino also have this kind of advice under their terms for a gambler to play responsibly.

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June 18, 2023, 03:09:23 PM
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Casinos prefer responsible players and the community should keep reminded of the many harms of gambling addiction but it's not good if we have a lot of new threads coming that are dedicated to gambling addiction, so a dedicated thread is also recommended, or limiting threads about gambling addiction.

And I don't think casinos will suffer if we keep reminding them about addiction because they also have it in their terms and casinos support responsible gaming because in the first place, they are entertainment portals and they do not want to harm people through what they are offering.

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June 18, 2023, 03:24:17 PM
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You fear addiction talk is deterring rookies, affecting casino earnings? Your focus is amusing. User wellness should be our main concern. If risk discussions dissuade someone, isn't it beneficial? It's preferable they back off than blindly risk a trap. As for casino profits, they can attract freshers. We should advocate responsible gambling over just the entertainment. Because, losing your savings and life's balance isn't enjoyable!

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June 18, 2023, 03:43:39 PM
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Locking threads will only make them sink and this can be forgotten so I prefer the current state and the many threads about gambling addiction.

And then a new thread with the same topic will emerge.  The thing about the discussion is that, the topic has variation but when discussions go on for too long, they often get sidetracked and end up talking about irrelevant things and ends up focusing on gambling addiction and gambling being an entertainment and not the way to earn money for a living.
This is likely to happen given that the discussion of gambling will inevitably be about gambling addiction and tips on how to get past it so a thread on addiction is bound to happen. But it does go back to the context sometimes different things are also always linked back to addiction which makes it a little wide actually so that the main topic seems to be distracted.

Even though not all topics discuss the same level of addiction, if the topic is moderated in one topic (not allowing other topics to exist) then cases of addiction at any level can be discussed there.
You are right, each topic is made to be discussed with different complaints of gambling addiction and different ways of handling it depending on the level of addiction experienced, so even though each topic is very relevant for discussing gambling addiction, we hear different stories from bad gambling experiences, so their gambling addiction must be stopped immediately by providing the right solution.

I agree with your opinion to make a special topic that will be moderated about all discussions of gambling addiction problems, but I also agree with @Ryu_Ar1's opinion because locking threads will drown the topic of gambling addiction problems so the important point if there are many addiction topics will remind every gambler to think about the risks worst if he is a compulsive gambler it will be difficult to cure from gambling addiction.
I prefer this solution by modernizing rather than having to lock down every existing discussion because indeed with this, apart from the discussion will continue to develop, on the other hand this can also minimize the conditions where the discussion is too broad in other directions.

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June 18, 2023, 06:05:40 PM
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This!

I've been saying it again and again. Gambling addiction stories are just tiresome to read and do not really contribute anything to the very topic itself, especially since a lot of the people who reported experiencing it gambles back anyway instead of actually seeking professional help like a regular human being. I get it, it needs to be magnified and more people should hear from it but most of the time it's just people ranting about their gambling losses, and then throwing deprecating shit at the bottom of their walls of text along the lines of "don't be like me" or "Don't fall for gambling addiction". Like of course, duh.

I think a mega-thread that could be propped up every now and again is more than enough to ensure that the discussion is still open and people can still talk about it, but I would highly suggest we include stuff like the suicide-hotline as well as contacts for institutions of rehabilitation that would come in handy for people who needs intervention.

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June 18, 2023, 06:13:17 PM
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Such as
Gambling addiction causes ear deafness? 
Gambling is a choice.
Borrowing money for gambling.
Can One's Religion Compel A Compulsive Gambler To Quit Gambling
Women's gambling addiction


All of them have various stories and of course the discussion also varies, but in the end it remains the same, the longer the discussion is carried out, it will lead to the same direction about addiction in gambling.
Not that in this case I say the topics I entered above are bad because they are indeed good and appropriate topics but sometimes there are some conditions where the discussion widens and ultimately discusses in the same direction, namely addiction.
The topics are different but all in the same gambling addiction stories and it will not bother me because we are in the gambling board and addiction in gambling is also real, it is somthing worthy to be fought against and if by opening these topics will help I don't find it bad. Another angle is having a single thread for addiction contribution which will also not help but concentrate the spam in one thread. Just a small time it will turn into a mega thread and they will leave it and start creating new ones.

Mean Op, this topic is also among them Grin

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June 19, 2023, 11:33:59 PM
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I have also noticed it.
And perhaps it is not a matter of spam being done on purpose but some coincidence of people who have had bad gambling experiences and decided to talk about it here, Instead.

In the end, because of the freedom this forum offers, those users have the right to open those thread, as long as there is no bad intention aiming to damage this section of the forum.

Perhaps if some moderator included a rule or stuck in the first page a dedicated thread to discuss gambling addiction, then we should not see this kind of volume on that topic.
Also, the objective is not scaring people away from gambling,.just letting them know about the financial and psychological risks that come with it, which is something the very casinos do in their FAQ pages.

It can be called a coincidence when one or two topics are created for the same issue. When more than 3,4 & 5 topics pop up in a span of a day or two then it cannot be a coincidence. I do see a good amount of replies on those topics, some have more than 6 pages. That means users are also enjoying replying on those topics or trying to spam them with nonsense. As these topics are not self-moderated why not start reporting them to the mods as spam?

I understand that the forum does offer every user the right to write a topic on any issue. When an issue continues to be brought up with different titles then it is considered as spam. What I found worst is that a few of them were created on the main Gambling board. I did not find anyone suggesting the OP, move those topics to the discussion board. Those who created those topics hardly replied to any of those replies on their thread, did you check that?

I believe we need to start reporting them to the mods. The mods can then lock the thread or delete them it is their choice.

I doubt that moderators will do something about them if reported because in many cases, those thread income unique context or stories related to personal experiences the person had with gambling addiction, being him or someone in his family circle. Keeping that in mind, we could argue that there is actual value in those threads and they may not deserve to be deleted.

It would be easier just to have a dedicated sections for those experiences, in my opinion.

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This is gambling discussion sub board of the gambling board of bitcointalk forum,  and the main goals of the gambling board is where casinos introduced the platforms via creation of ANN threads and also the discussion sub board where gamblers discuss many other topics as relate to gambling.

But recently I have read a lot of topics as regards to gambling (addictions) and it negative effects on individuals and how we have warn against it,  but at this time I am beginning to think that we are focusing too much on gambling addiction rather than employing ways to avoid addiction but at the same time gamble and have fun to the fullest.

The topics and discussion about gambling addiction is becoming too much and too often to the point that most newbie may likely get scared away from gambling which will not be ok for the casino revenue generation so at this point I am force to ear my view of this topic of gambling addictions, becoming too much in this board.

Or what do you think?
Well, you have a point, and it's never a crime for any body to air his or her opinion concerning any matter he or she feels should be better done..

But then, what I do think is that, a problem can never be solved without first discussion about it, there is no way we can discuss the solutions or employ ways to avoid addictions without first discussing addiction and it's effect on the gambler as well as the society the gambler lives in, I hope you really understand the point am coming from..

And as for the assumption that discussing gambling addiction can scare newbies away from gambling totally, I do not agree, a gambler will always gamble regardless of what is being said, this discussion only helps them to stay on alert and don't allow themselves to be carried away.

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July 02, 2023, 12:24:28 AM
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The repeated topics in different ways doesn't mean that forum members should ignore them,because we have newbies coming into the forum everyday by day and also some addicted gamblers here that are finding it difficult to control themselves. The best thing that a gambler will need,is to have someone that talks or say some negative effects of gambling to him,so that he can control his gambling activities.

The topics and discussion about gambling addiction is becoming too much and too often to the point that most newbie may likely get scared away from gambling which will not be ok for the casino revenue generation.

Or what do you think?
I doubt this,have you read the topic that someone wrote that gamblers turn deaf hears on advise on not to gamble anymore. Even in the physical world some governments banned gambling and some go around to sensitize people about the effect or gambling,in school the effect of gambling is taught but still the rate of new people going into gambling is increasing day by day. Gambling is just like smoking. The tobacco company will warn that smokers are liable to die young but still the young ones are going into smoking that ever. Same with gambling,gamblers will still gamble no matter the numerous topics created on effect of gambling in the forum. Gambling is for entertainment and such people who understands this will always gamble.

Addiction is one of the problems that most attack people in the world today, some for alcohol, others for drugs, and here in the forum it may be that many have the problem of addiction to the forum, I know that yes, there are many issues about addiction, but we also have to be a little more tactful when trying to understand them, they may be looking for help and opinions to get some comfort , they may not dare to say that they have a problem, because the reasons There can be many social networks and they fear being affected or singled out, in itself, I think it is a thread that is addictive or even 100 if it is necessary that they be opened, but as long as that person improves in their problem , then I Prefer to see them, read them give my Opinion and hopefully I can help so that Person heals

This is gambling discussion sub board of the gambling board of bitcointalk forum,  and the main goals of the gambling board is where casinos introduced the platforms via creation of ANN threads and also the discussion sub board where gamblers discuss many other topics as relate to gambling.

But recently I have read a lot of topics as regards to gambling (addictions) and it negative effects on individuals and how we have warn against it,  but at this time I am beginning to think that we are focusing too much on gambling addiction rather than employing ways to avoid addiction but at the same time gamble and have fun to the fullest.

The topics and discussion about gambling addiction is becoming too much and too often to the point that most newbie may likely get scared away from gambling which will not be ok for the casino revenue generation so at this point I am force to ear my view of this topic of gambling addictions, becoming too much in this board.

Or what do you think?
Well, you have a point, and it's never a crime for any body to air his or her opinion concerning any matter he or she feels should be better done..

But then, what I do think is that, a problem can never be solved without first discussion about it, there is no way we can discuss the solutions or employ ways to avoid addictions without first discussing addiction and it's effect on the gambler as well as the society the gambler lives in, I hope you really understand the point am coming from..

And as for the assumption that discussing gambling addiction can scare newbies away from gambling totally, I do not agree, a gambler will always gamble regardless of what is being said, this discussion only helps them to stay on alert and don't allow themselves to be carried away.

Sometimes I see that a problem like this must be faced with all the maturity possible, I am sure that many people who suffer from this problem open the threads to get some understanding and why not, some useful advice that can help them get out of trouble where they are , or the situation they are going through, sometimes when it comes to games and addiction you can say a lot and give an opinion , but an addiction is an addiction , only the one who is suffering from it is the one who knows what they are experiencing, and It is Very hard, so if the person does not have enough money to be treated by a psychologist or Someone who can Give a Valid Opinion , they will not achieve anything , here in the forum there are many Experts on many Topics , why not help whoever needs it most, I think that's something We Should Do.

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July 02, 2023, 06:23:24 AM
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You fear addiction talk is deterring rookies, affecting casino earnings? Your focus is amusing. User wellness should be our main concern. If risk discussions dissuade someone, isn't it beneficial? It's preferable they back off than blindly risk a trap. As for casino profits, they can attract freshers. We should advocate responsible gambling over just the entertainment. Because, losing your savings and life's balance isn't enjoyable!
That's right because by frequently talking about the risks that will be faced, beginners can think long before deciding to gamble so they won't get caught up in gambling. They shouldn't approach gambling at all and rather than have to experience all kinds of problems that exist in gambling. And if they can't be a responsible gamblers, they better not try it because many already have and don't need to go through the same thing. Losing money through gambling is no fun; if they can't accept it, they don't need to gamble.

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July 02, 2023, 07:08:37 AM
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Casinos prefer responsible players and the community should keep reminded of the many harms of gambling addiction but it's not good if we have a lot of new threads coming that are dedicated to gambling addiction, so a dedicated thread is also recommended, or limiting threads about gambling addiction.

And I don't think casinos will suffer if we keep reminding them about addiction because they also have it in their terms and casinos support responsible gaming because in the first place, they are entertainment portals and they do not want to harm people through what they are offering.
Entertainment portal for gamblers who want to play for fun not for gamblers who come looking for money, no casinos think they don't want to harm others basically they build it for money and making money there is no purpose other than that, casinos will be successful with many gamblers those who lose money, discussing threads is true, at least we can focus on just a few threads or one of the threads about addiction in this thread, it's not that I don't want to remind beginners, but I think from the link this thread can be shared with beginners who ask questions about gambling in this forum .

I think also being an addict is a choice, because when he wants to choose to get rid of his addiction it will definitely heal by itself, I see that there are several friends who are gambling addicts who can stop gambling now even though they have to rebuild it from scratch from a broken family and damaged assets. has run out, but everything returns to the wishes of each gambler. moreover, on every thread of the gambling board, we always find warnings from friends to avoid playing seriously and playing responsibly so you don't get too addicted.

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This is gambling discussion sub board of the gambling board of bitcointalk forum,  and the main goals of the gambling board is where casinos introduced the platforms via creation of ANN threads and also the discussion sub board where gamblers discuss many other topics as relate to gambling.

But recently I have read a lot of topics as regards to gambling (addictions) and it negative effects on individuals and how we have warn against it,  but at this time I am beginning to think that we are focusing too much on gambling addiction rather than employing ways to avoid addiction but at the same time gamble and have fun to the fullest.

The topics and discussion about gambling addiction is becoming too much and too often to the point that most newbie may likely get scared away from gambling which will not be ok for the casino revenue generation so at this point I am force to ear my view of this topic of gambling addictions, becoming too much in this board.

Or what do you think?

I agree but what we can expect? We are dealing with gambling here so for sure there will be more topic will be created since maybe they newly experience it and want to remind other for not going the same way then be careful on what they do especially when they go excessive gamblinh since there's bo good will happen in their life.
Yes gambling boards usually have a lot of discussions about gambling addiction because too much gambling addiction can make a person destitute. Due to discussion on this board many gamblers are gaining experience from here and controlling themselves and avoiding risk. Also, gambling addiction is the creation of an impossible and uncontrollable need in the mind for gambling. It is extremely difficult to remain unfulfilled therefore play as a medium of entertainment.
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You fear addiction talk is deterring rookies, affecting casino earnings? Your focus is amusing. User wellness should be our main concern. If risk discussions dissuade someone, isn't it beneficial? It's preferable they back off than blindly risk a trap. As for casino profits, they can attract freshers. We should advocate responsible gambling over just the entertainment. Because, losing your savings and life's balance isn't enjoyable!
That is why we shouldn't fear talking about addiction risks, especially towards newbies. They really have to be concerned regards addiction, while learning how gambling works, what they can expect from it and how to play in a healthy responsible way before depositing considerable sums of money on platforms to bet. Gambling can be destructive if not practiced responsively and if we avoid talking about it, we are actually creating more issues, since newbies will engage themselves with this activity without knowing the basics, consequently putting themselves in a big financial crisis later.

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You fear addiction talk is deterring rookies, affecting casino earnings? Your focus is amusing. User wellness should be our main concern. If risk discussions dissuade someone, isn't it beneficial? It's preferable they back off than blindly risk a trap. As for casino profits, they can attract freshers. We should advocate responsible gambling over just the entertainment. Because, losing your savings and life's balance isn't enjoyable!
That is why we shouldn't fear talking about addiction risks, especially towards newbies. They really have to be concerned regards addiction, while learning how gambling works, what they can expect from it and how to play in a healthy responsible way before depositing considerable sums of money on platforms to bet. Gambling can be destructive if not practiced responsively and if we avoid talking about it, we are actually creating more issues, since newbies will engage themselves with this activity without knowing the basics, consequently putting themselves in a big financial crisis later.

Even if the users are avoiding casinos already because of the threads about addiction, casinos are still going to be profitable businesses since there are thousands of players willing to throw away their money for entertainment. And with BTC turning mainstream, it will be the preferred choice of money to be gambled in the casinos.

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I quite agree to what you said. But even though that seems quite excessive, it's also good that these people raise a topic that I think is important enough to pay attention to. And especially in response, we can see stories from people who have been addicted to gambling trying to fight their addiction and trying to share their experiences to remind others about gambling addiction, which is something that should not be underestimated.
Even if you don't like these topics, you can skip them and don't have to read them, because you're not forced to read those topics either.

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I quite agree to what you said. But even though that seems quite excessive, it's also good that these people raise a topic that I think is important enough to pay attention to. And especially in response, we can see stories from people who have been addicted to gambling trying to fight their addiction and trying to share their experiences to remind others about gambling addiction, which is something that should not be underestimated.
Even if you don't like these topics, you can skip them and don't have to read them, because you're not forced to read those topics either.
Everyone has a choice, of course we are persuaded to read what we appear to be uninterested in, I completely agree with you, gambling addictions thread is probably dominating, but come to think of it, what matters most is probably what's trending, people get more involved in gambling addiction because they or someone they care about is addicted. I recognize that this will pass, that everything has its time, that a new barrier will rise up, that the only thing that keeps this topic trending for months is that it impacts gamblers and other fields of gambling.

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 #78

This is gambling discussion sub board of the gambling board of bitcointalk forum,  and the main goals of the gambling board is where casinos introduced the platforms via creation of ANN threads and also the discussion sub board where gamblers discuss many other topics as relate to gambling.

But recently I have read a lot of topics as regards to gambling (addictions) and it negative effects on individuals and how we have warn against it,  but at this time I am beginning to think that we are focusing too much on gambling addiction rather than employing ways to avoid addiction but at the same time gamble and have fun to the fullest.

The topics and discussion about gambling addiction is becoming too much and too often to the point that most newbie may likely get scared away from gambling which will not be ok for the casino revenue generation so at this point I am force to ear my view of this topic of gambling addictions, becoming too much in this board.

Or what do you think?
i don't really see the topic of gambling addiction very much (i haven't bothered so far), but the topic of gambling addiction is not in just 1 topic.  other than that some people have other goals in creating topics about gambling addiction (such as to meet the weekly quota of signature campaigns they participate in)

but you can ignore topics that you feel are not important to discuss (such as topic discussions that you feel have been discussed repeatedly or topics that will never end) that's your right.
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July 03, 2023, 05:48:56 PM
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I quite agree to what you said. But even though that seems quite excessive, it's also good that these people raise a topic that I think is important enough to pay attention to. And especially in response, we can see stories from people who have been addicted to gambling trying to fight their addiction and trying to share their experiences to remind others about gambling addiction, which is something that should not be underestimated.
Even if you don't like these topics, you can skip them and don't have to read them, because you're not forced to read those topics either.
Everyone has a choice, of course we are persuaded to read what we appear to be uninterested in, I completely agree with you, gambling addictions thread is probably dominating, but come to think of it, what matters most is probably what's trending, people get more involved in gambling addiction because they or someone they care about is addicted. I recognize that this will pass, that everything has its time, that a new barrier will rise up, that the only thing that keeps this topic trending for months is that it impacts gamblers and other fields of gambling.

People always need to remind themselves about this addiction as somehow, it is already affecting a lot of lives.
Not only in this forum, but among the gambling population. So we need a constant reminder on this matter.
However, it depends on you how you will take this matter. Will it be a good reminder for you or an annoying repetitive discussion for you?
For as long as it can help someone change the path of their lives, we will always hear or read this kind of discussion.
This kind of addiction won't stop as there will always be a gambler who is brink on losing it all because of this industry.
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July 03, 2023, 06:15:47 PM
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You fear addiction talk is deterring rookies, affecting casino earnings? Your focus is amusing. User wellness should be our main concern. If risk discussions dissuade someone, isn't it beneficial? It's preferable they back off than blindly risk a trap. As for casino profits, they can attract freshers. We should advocate responsible gambling over just the entertainment. Because, losing your savings and life's balance isn't enjoyable!
That is why we shouldn't fear talking about addiction risks, especially towards newbies. They really have to be concerned regards addiction, while learning how gambling works, what they can expect from it and how to play in a healthy responsible way before depositing considerable sums of money on platforms to bet. Gambling can be destructive if not practiced responsively and if we avoid talking about it, we are actually creating more issues, since newbies will engage themselves with this activity without knowing the basics, consequently putting themselves in a big financial crisis later.

The lessons to learn from this kind of topic are inexhaustible. From trying to move away from the act of playing uncontrollably to the financial burden and obviously, those who are married have alot to learn from it because addiction in gambling usually set couples apart if the wife is not in support of it. People are sharing enormous experience of their experience on it and effort made on the good sides or and the bad side.

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