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June 20, 2023, 07:45:56 AM
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It's good that you are responding to some answers here. Smiley
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Re: Does ranking not guarantee post quality?
No.
Some might said their opinion regarding this question, and I'll share mine as well.

I've seen Legendary ranked members here that are posting low quality, and repetitive posts in different threads. I've also seen high-ranked members who are just posting 2-3 sentences in every thread that they see. On the other hand, there are some new members who climbed up on their ranks, and currently they are either Legendary, or will be in the future (probably they lack of activity). I mean I've saw a handful of new members here who has a rank of newbie, and just after 3-6 months, they have enough merits to become a Legendary already. Those are the ones who are posting high quality ones, and really are contributing here in the forum.

No disrespect to those shitposters because I might be one as well, but I just hope that we - high ranked members here might step up in terms of their quality of posting here. I guess it's a good thing that the merit system has implemented or else, we are seeing those users who are just posting proofs on bounty threads that are now Legendary rank or Hero Member.

Every member of this forum is compelled to be a good writer and many times writers get block and can't figure out a better idea to address on their responses. An average user visits and contributes to this forum at least 5 days a week; spending atleast 2-3 hours reading the forum. And some members have been practicing this for quite a long time amounting to 4-5 years of active service Grin

 it's not a simple accomplishment to do that, most times the quality of their responses drops because they don't know much about the topic and had to fit into the discussion. But, if you get them on a topic they studied well, they is always a quality change. As for members that get enough merits within 6 months I respect them because I understand how much work they put in to achieve that. The forum is simple on its own, but not simpler to understand completely how it works and in my view the forum readers can detect when a member spent so much time building a thread. Such posts always get enough merits. Good and constructive writing requires research, editing and time. Not every member possess such luxury.

As for the old members that got promoted when the merit system was initiated, I don't think a lot of them still use this forum to be pointing fingers that they're the high ranked users with low quality posts. I see many active accounts from 2020 upwards I rarely see active 2014, 2016 or even 2017 accounts compared to 2019 upwards accounts. Everyone is doing their best.

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June 20, 2023, 08:16:50 AM
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Theirs one thing in forum, which I know quite well that's problem of forum, many people who you think that their suggestions is trash, really they might be trash base on the turn you use to read their comments, for you to understand what another person is saying you have to read like two times of the writer composition before concluding, because sometimes your observations might be real because of how people repeat some discussed issues in order to complete their weekly post quota, that's the time you see some of forum higher rank users to make a verbal comment. But a newbie have to make a cogent or a quality post that's very necessary and understanding, because its obvious that any newbie thread is attractive to old forum users, so therefore new users have to calm down and make a quality posts.

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June 20, 2023, 11:06:46 AM
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How can you tell if it’s quality post or not when you have not exposed yourself in the forum for long? I believe e everyone of us here has its own concept and perspective in each thread in the forum, and what we say or post depends on how knowledgeable we are, and not on the rank or position. However, there’s always an edge if you have higher rank or position since you are more exposed to how the market works and mastery is there. Thus, making high quality post is more possible than to expect for some newbies to do it.

Maybe OP saw some posts that weren't making sense in the discussion, or were off-topic. It's pretty much the forum reality where high ranked accounts posts in mega threads because they need that 1 or 2 posts to make their campaign quota for that week.

If you want to find something in a large group like this one, you will eventually find it.
Choose what you want, a spammer, a plagiarizer, a high ranked newbie, low ranked professional, someone who is 16 years old, someone who is 60. I don't see anything worth complaining about.
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June 20, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
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Hello, I think at least you doing something very good and right your Merit earning is very good for such a short time.

Congratulations and continue with the good work
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June 20, 2023, 01:07:03 PM
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Hello, I think at least you doing something very good and right your Merit earning is very good for such a short time.

Congratulations and continue with the good work

Hi... These sound like beautiful words and compliments. But not always what is beautiful is good. Maybe what you convey includes off-topic comments Wink

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June 20, 2023, 02:27:29 PM
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Hello, I think at least you doing something very good and right your Merit earning is very good for such a short time.

Congratulations and continue with the good work

Hi... These sound like beautiful words and compliments. But not always what is beautiful is good. Maybe what you convey includes off-topic comments Wink
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June 20, 2023, 03:35:27 PM
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I know for sure there will be a lot of comments that blaspheme me. I may be a newbie but I know that a post has value and a good argument. Maybe I haven't read all the threads, so I have to ask about my statement, that many high ranking members have low quality posts? talk nonsense and have no clear arguments. Is my statement correct?

Irrespective of the rank on the forum, it's the person behind the accounts that determine the quality of the posts and not the ranks. Bear in mind that some high ranks account you see were just airdropped merits and didn't earn the number of merits you see their account having so don't think they got their because of their quality. Some where privilege to be around the early forum users when only activities matters to rank up and you can get their by barely writing the minimum. We also have spammers in all ranks including the higher ranks so you shouldn't be using those spamming to justify all high ranked accounts.

We also have people from different parts of the world and not native speakers of english and we all know english also has it's effects on posts that are quality. A poorly constructed reply might be considered a bad posts that lack quality but the users might had made more sense if he was a native speaker of english language or had good writing skills. All I'm saying is not all post you see that the users instead to not make sense with their write up but sometimes their english disappoints them. Ranks doesn't mandate quality but it does have its influence if the users grew the account from newbie to whatever ranks he's at now because he must have gained experience and that'll help with his writing provided the users isn't intentionally spamming to make up for the weeks quota of the signature campaign they're enrolled in.

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June 20, 2023, 08:42:28 PM
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It's been a great day, I've read enough threads. I saw quite a lot of senior/hero/legendary rank discussions, but if I'm honest, I found a lot of comments that have no value, they just write nonsense. Maybe I did too

I realize that the quality of a post is based on the knowledge of the account owner. But stupid people are still needed to continue the discussion, if everyone is smart then there will be no more discussion. So both are needed.

I know for sure there will be a lot of comments that blaspheme me. I may be a newbie but I know that a post has value and a good argument. Maybe I haven't read all the threads, so I have to ask about my statement, that many high ranking members have low quality posts? talk nonsense and have no clear arguments. Is my statement correct?
This forum shows an interactive discussion not because some are stupid enough not to easily understand but because each member has its own ideas or opinions on the given thread. So the more members who have great ideas, the more lively the discussion is. However, I believe the quality of the post is not based on the rank of a member as there are actually newbies who have great ideas on the topics while some higher rank members have less to say about it. So a quality post is actually made if a member is highly knowledgeable or highly experienced depending on the situation given.
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June 20, 2023, 09:50:38 PM
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I will never deny that a lot of high rank members are still into spamming and creating low quality post. But know that everything will be learned in time as long as they continue to explore the forum and learn from the high quality post of some reputable members. And by having DYOR, which i think is a must for all of us, we will always improve what we have learned and eventually share it to others so they can also benefit from us.

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I don't know what you mean by that. I can already see your name on your profile board. Is that not enough?

Maybe because his name is Dr.Bitcoin_Strange and not Dr Strange. I skimmed through Bitcoin word first time too.

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June 22, 2023, 08:32:51 AM
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It's been a great day, I've read enough threads. I saw quite a lot of senior/hero/legendary rank discussions, but if I'm honest, I found a lot of comments that have no value, they just write nonsense. Maybe I did too

I realize that the quality of a post is based on the knowledge of the account owner. But stupid people are still needed to continue the discussion, if everyone is smart then there will be no more discussion. So both are needed.

I know for sure there will be a lot of comments that blaspheme me. I may be a newbie but I know that a post has value and a good argument. Maybe I haven't read all the threads, so I have to ask about my statement, that many high ranking members have low quality posts? talk nonsense and have no clear arguments. Is my statement correct?

Like seriously? I am of contrary view. I maybe a newbie as well but I must commend this forum thus far, especially with the introduction of the Merit system, which I believe is holistic enough to scale up meaningful contributions. Like it was mentioned earlier, what makes sense to you, might not with me, depending on our viewpoints and our need for results.

This is a forum, where a lot of users spring up discussions and problems that require solutions. A lot of answers are provided individually and uniquely  to solve these problems and those asking the questions and observing could extend their gesture by rewarding efforts with the merits. These merits goes on to measure your level of performance and reliability then pushes you up the ladder. I think it is clear that the forum is against shit posts.

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June 22, 2023, 10:03:35 AM
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I know for sure there will be a lot of comments that blaspheme me. I may be a newbie but I know that a post has value and a good argument. Maybe I haven't read all the threads, so I have to ask about my statement, that many high ranking members have low quality posts? talk nonsense and have no clear arguments. Is my statement correct?
The quality of posts really cannot be focused on ranking factors. Because even those who are ranked legendary, once in a while maybe they can make a post that is of less quality. There are also not a few beginners who have quality quality posts.
But what I have monitored and seen so far, most of the forum members who have gotten quite high ratings such as FM, SR, Hero, especially legendary, mostly have quality posts. So if you think that members who are highly ranked, their posts are sometimes less qualified, I don't blame either. But you need to know, if members in this forum can rise to a higher rank, it's not engineering or manipulation, but it's genuine because of the quality of the posts. You also need to remember, that the members in this forum are all human. Which means it must have increased and decreased in all respects, including the quality of posts in this forum as well. So the posts you see are definitely not the best performance, or it's not a topic that the member doesn't understand.
Because not all the high ranking members in this forum have mastered the whole topic, but have expertise in their respective fields.

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June 22, 2023, 09:58:11 PM
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Does ranking not guarantee post quality?? Is that' your question??
...that would actually infer that you assumed it to be true right? But alot of things aren't accurate through assumptions; the right thing to do is ask questions, just like you did.
What makes you think that ranks in here are some kinda sub-forum intermediaries (connectors), that somewhat makes everything right even when they're wrong, or changes people's point of view, appraisals or whatever...?? No!!! Using the word "guarantee" in there is a no no for me.
We all know that every account has a dynamic op behind it,. And certainly,WHAT YOU KNOW IS WHAT YOU GIVE OUT!!

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June 24, 2023, 11:09:25 AM
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I know for sure there will be a lot of comments that blaspheme me. I may be a newbie but I know that a post has value and a good argument. Maybe I haven't read all the threads, so I have to ask about my statement, that many high ranking members have low quality posts? talk nonsense and have no clear arguments. Is my statement correct?
The quality of posts really cannot be focused on ranking factors. Because even those who are ranked legendary, once in a while maybe they can make a post that is of less quality. There are also not a few beginners who have quality quality posts.
But what I have monitored and seen so far, most of the forum members who have gotten quite high ratings such as FM, SR, Hero, especially legendary, mostly have quality posts. So if you think that members who are highly ranked, their posts are sometimes less qualified, I don't blame either. But you need to know, if members in this forum can rise to a higher rank, it's not engineering or manipulation, but it's genuine because of the quality of the posts. You also need to remember, that the members in this forum are all human. Which means it must have increased and decreased in all respects, including the quality of posts in this forum as well. So the posts you see are definitely not the best performance, or it's not a topic that the member doesn't understand.
Because not all the high ranking members in this forum have mastered the whole topic, but have expertise in their respective fields.

Improving the quality of posts is not born without reason, if they are written without foundation and only from sources of thought, I think it is still lacking, but if supported by clear reference sources, maybe this will be better, this will continue the tension of the conversation in strengthening arguments and can be conveyed again from what we have said before. Yes. read a lot and know to take the essence of what we learn.

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June 24, 2023, 01:25:42 PM
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It's been a great day, I've read enough threads. I saw quite a lot of senior/hero/legendary rank discussions, but if I'm honest, I found a lot of comments that have no value, they just write nonsense. Maybe I did too

I realize that the quality of a post is based on the knowledge of the account owner. But stupid people are still needed to continue the discussion, if everyone is smart then there will be no more discussion. So both are needed.

I know for sure there will be a lot of comments that blaspheme me. I may be a newbie but I know that a post has value and a good argument. Maybe I haven't read all the threads, so I have to ask about my statement, that many high ranking members have low quality posts? talk nonsense and have no clear arguments. Is my statement correct?

Well, i made similar comments yesterday in one of my comments about the needs to disagree with peoples comment respectfully. "You don;t have to say people write nonsense", i find it totally wrong.

Also, when it comes to replying a long thread of topics, sometimes the discussions change direction, and peeps would only reply to the basis they feel they have an idea about. Your state is incorrect.
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June 24, 2023, 01:39:05 PM
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Well, i made similar comments yesterday in one of my comments about the needs to disagree with peoples comment respectfully. "You don;t have to say people write nonsense", i find it totally wrong.

Also, when it comes to replying a long thread of topics, sometimes the discussions change direction, and peeps would only reply to the basis they feel they have an idea about. Your state is incorrect.
There is nothing wrong telling that he find some users writing doing nonsense posts if he really did observed that. If it is true, why not spill, at the first place he is not attacking any specific user so there should be no issue regarding that.
As much as we can, we should stay relevant to the topic, I would agree that sometimes the discussion is getting away from the main topic, but it should at least still be connected to the discussion.

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June 24, 2023, 01:44:35 PM
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I think high ranking members have more knowledge and broader insights, that's why they get rewarded and rank up. And everyone has a different mindset. So just respect what everyone posts, because everyone has their own rights and opinions.

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June 24, 2023, 03:26:44 PM
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I think high ranking members have more knowledge and broader insights, that's why they get rewarded and rank up. And everyone has a different mindset. So just respect what everyone posts, because everyone has their own rights and opinions.

before the Merit system was implemented, forum members could easily rank up by simply making a sufficient amount of activity to rank up. so they don't run into difficulties like beginners when the Merit system is implemented.
but you can see, old members who stay active and contribute to the forum. they have the quality to collect a lot of Merit. it is a form of appreciation from fellow forum members.

so we can't judge the quality of a post or the understanding of a topic by their forum rating. the reality was that there were newbies who accumulated a large amount of Merit in a short amount of time. it shows the quality of the posts he shares.

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June 24, 2023, 09:18:09 PM
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I think high ranking members have more knowledge and broader insights, that's why they get rewarded and rank up. And everyone has a different mindset. So just respect what everyone posts, because everyone has their own rights and opinions.

before the Merit system was implemented, forum members could easily rank up by simply making a sufficient amount of activity to rank up. so they don't run into difficulties like beginners when the Merit system is implemented.
but you can see, old members who stay active and contribute to the forum. they have the quality to collect a lot of Merit. it is a form of appreciation from fellow forum members.

so we can't judge the quality of a post or the understanding of a topic by their forum rating. the reality was that there were newbies who accumulated a large amount of Merit in a short amount of time. it shows the quality of the posts he shares.
At first, the merit system discouraged a lot of users, including myself. I thought I'd never rank up, while I was followed by a large period of inactivity, due to a major market crash. Ultimately, ranking up wasn't that hard after all. Some of those members are the exception to the rule of lower post quality. In general, those who have managed to accumulate enough merit to rank up are likely worthy enough to create quality and worthwhile posts. Thus, higher ranks are likely to create better content, but that isn't always guaranteed, because there's still a decent number of users who were already Sr members and above simply by being active and creating content of dubious quality.

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June 24, 2023, 09:59:17 PM
Last edit: June 24, 2023, 10:10:00 PM by nurilham
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I saw quite a lot of senior/hero/legendary rank discussions, but if I'm honest, I found a lot of comments that have no value, they just write nonsense.
You shouldn't be so surprised, forum account never guarantee how good the post quality or knowledge of someone. Moreover, in the past to reach high ranks, we only need to increase the number of activities. But now, it is quite difficult to achieve high ranks, we need merits. To earn merits, it requires quality posts.

I realize that the quality of a post is based on the knowledge of the account owner. But stupid people are still needed to continue the discussion, if everyone is smart then there will be no more discussion. So both are needed.
Of course, post quality is related to the account owner. Even if it is a newbie account, his post can be quality enough if he is an experienced person in crypto space. But a newbie account probably has a lack knowledge about this forum, especially an account with low activity.

I don't think only stupid people who continue joining discussions. Smart people who are interested in new topics, will constantly join discussions. They also may want to help other members who ask certain information, both related to forum or crypto as a whole.

I may be a newbie but I know that a post has value and a good argument. Maybe I haven't read all the threads, so I have to ask about my statement, that many high ranking members have low quality posts?
The quality or value of a post can be very subjective. Your assumptions can be different with others.
But if you find the names of some members in the threads below, they clearly have low quality posts.
1. Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny
2. [Spammer Blacklist] The Shitlist
3. Bounty spammer meets AI Chat generator
4. Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here

However, someone can change. If someone realizes his low quality posts and want to improve it, he can have quality posts in the future. People who learn seriously, can improve their post quality and knowledge.


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