The truth about investment (bitcoins)

[Forever101]

Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

[odolvlobo]

Investing in bitcoins is not yet a zero-sum game. As long as the value of a bitcoin continues to rise, everyone can be a winner (though some more than others).

However, when Bitcoin has reached full adoption and there is no more gain in value, then bitcoins will no longer be profitable for anyone but the traders.

[Upgrade00]

To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. 

You are describing a Ponzi scheme where the product has no value besides being resold to the higher bidder who now have to look for someone who would buy it at an even more expensive price till it crumbles.
Bitcoin has utility besides its market value and isn't sold at the expense of the buyer.

[JeromeTash]

We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.

80% ? Why not 100%

Let's be honesty, all hodlers are profit driven at the very least. Otherwise, what would be the point of hodling if one is not in for profit?

To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim.

It's not only HODLers who are buying or using bitcoin. We have day traders and then those just using it for transactions. So that where the money comes from.
A person only chooses to be a victim when they sell off their Bitcoin at a price lower than the buying price

[BitDane]

To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. 

You are describing a Ponzi scheme where the product has no value besides being resold to the higher bidder who now have to look for someone who would buy it at an even more expensive price till it crumbles.
Bitcoin has utility besides its market value and isn't sold at the expense of the buyer.

I agree with @OP, in every action there is always an exact opposite reaction.  The law of equilibrium.  In the market, when someone gain, someone also losses.  Like when we sell our BTC @ $100k, we gain $100k, while the buyer losses $100k  but in return we losses the BTC while the other party gain  BTC.  This is exactly what happen in an open market.

[Mr.right85]

What is this about getting rich and smartness and a swap in between smartness and all...

I mean, I get you in some aspects but, some seems odd.

Anyway,not all holders becomes victims. In your trying to speculate what happens with holders and getting rich, you seem to have left out the new investors. Those are the once that could as well affect the demand curve and the miners as well who continue to mine new bitcoins into circulation.

The possibility of bitcoin serving for an investment has made holding a very lucrative thing go do but, not without  downside on its use case. You wouldn't want to see and before you could buy it back, the market boosts.

[sheenshane]

Bitcoin doesn't work like that, it seems you're describing a Ponzi scheme investment.
Because IMO, success in investing is not a zero-sum game where one person's gains come at the expense of another's losses.  The crypto market is highly dynamic and can provide opportunities for multiple individuals to profit simultaneously.  Besides, different investors have different entry and exit points and investment horizons which means they can experience different levels of success at various times.

Now it's a funny fact that people now store the value of Bitcoin instead of using this alternatively in fiat transactions.
It should be the use and recognize the broader scope of Bitcoin's adoption and the potential benefits it offers beyond just financial gains.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

It deals with smartness while also circling around patients. Some investors have the zeal to invest but may not have the patience to hold their coins during a bear market. You are right that not everyone will make a profit, but the fact that if you don't sell your coin cheaply, you will make a profit is correct. Some investors also invest wrongly in Bitcoin, which is why if the market becomes so bearish, they become scared thinking that all their assets will get liquidated, so they rush into selling for just a little or no profit. The reason why I said some people invest wrongly is because if someone is earning like $1000 a month and they decide to start investing in Bitcoin, on their first investment, they buy $700 worth of Bitcoin, and after a week, the price of BTC drops by -15%, leaving their asset at a significant loss. Let's say at that moment when the price is down, an emergency comes up for the man, and he needs instant $500 to solve the problem. At that point in time, if his Bitcoin investment is his only option to solve that problem, he would not mind selling at a loss. That's why it's good if we always map out our budget and only invest the right amount in Bitcoin, so it doesn't affect us.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

[Mr.suevie]

Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

I guess you very correct on the part about smartness in investing. Bitcoin investment is similar to every other type of business which is no doubt expose to ups and downs, the fluctuations in the market can and has made so many investors calculated wrongly due to the fear about their investment going A WALL. Only the smart one who are willing to hold and buy more during the  dip and it doesn't necessarily need for you to buy big but continues DCA strategy can go a long way.

[hatshepsut93]

However, when Bitcoin has reached full adoption and there is no more gain in value, then bitcoins will no longer be profitable for anyone but the traders.

It's possible that at some point Bitcoin will be overvalued, it will keep rising as if its getting more adoption, but in fact adoption will be barely moving. Unlike with stock markets or other assets, in Bitcoin market no one seem to care about fundamentals like number of users, number of merchants that accept Bitcoin, etc.

[coupable]

Profits from investments in Bitcoin are due to price fluctuations and instability. The state of instability results from the lack of full adoption of these assets in terms of use, which proves the data that 80 percent of Bitcoin users are investors and the rest use it as a payment system. If the adoption of Bitcoin is generalized, its price will certainly go towards stability and trading will become the only way to achieve profits. The current period is an opportunity for investors before full adoption takes place.

[Popkon6]

Investing in Bitcoin is very much a matter of patience as not all individuals can be patient. To invest in bitcoins one must avoid greed because (when there is a little profit, greed works inside us and we sell it). Everyone will be rich if the price of Bitcoin goes up but few will survive if the price of Bitcoin goes down. That's why I want to say but patience encourages human resources and time which is self-evident. Unique individuals who are successful have proven themselves to be very patient.

[LogitechMouse]

We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.

You're a bit shy, eh?
Why not make it 100% or just 99%, and why 80%? Any website where you got this data? Or it's just you nitpicking a specific number.

To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim.

Well, this is true.

Another one's profit is another one's loss. This always happens especially in trading. Who said that every holder can't be rich at the same time? It has 2 factors IMO. The time when you bought Bitcoin, and the amount of time you held it. If you bought Bitcoin earlier than most investors, you will get more profit thus, it might make you rich. On the other hand, those who bought a bit late can get lesser profits than those who bough earlier. TBH, the word "rich" has a very broad definition when it comes to investing, but one thing's for sure thought. You bought it earlier, you will gain more profits (base on history).

[cryptoaddictchie]

Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.

So the remaining 20% dont want to earn profits just wanted to accumulate bitcoin? Im not sure this should be a perfect 100% aside from enjoying the perks of bitcoin majority of the people who owns bitcoin are obviously in for the profits when bitcoin price appreciated. Its a hypocrite to say that they arent considering bitcoin price. Maybe during it wasnt valuable but the case now is different especially 1bitcoin isnt just cents anymore.

[superman184]

Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

Profits from investing have indeed encouraged more people to invest in cryptocurrencies in their own ways and strategies, but this does not always have to be related to intelligence because that alone will not be enough to get profits for an investor. There are several other things that also greatly support an investor in making a profit, namely luck in choosing investment assets at certain moments so that someone can benefit even though their intelligence is still below average.

This means that someone simply researches which cryptocurrency is most liked by many people and then buys it for investment. Even though he is not that smart compared to other people, but if he is lucky enough with the cryptocurrency he bought for investment purposes, then he can also get profit. So without having to be too smart, someone can still benefit through their investment, although an investor doesn't have to be too stupid either in choosing cryptocurrency for investment.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven.

So the remaining 20% dont want to earn profits just wanted to accumulate bitcoin? Im not sure this should be a perfect 100% aside from enjoying the perks of bitcoin majority of the people who owns bitcoin are obviously in for the profits when bitcoin price appreciated. Its a hypocrite to say that they arent considering bitcoin price. Maybe during it wasnt valuable but the case now is different especially 1bitcoin isnt just cents anymore.

I interpret his meaning to be that 80% are driven solely by profit, while the remaining 20%, apart from hoping for future appreciation, are people interested in the technology, its fundamentals, or the role it can play in society. It is difficult to establish percentages based on intuition alone, but we know that there are many people who invest in bitcoin simply for profit, although I would say that bitcoin users know more about the technology and fundamentals than those who invest in altcoins.

[Z390]

Every Bitcoin investors will become a winner, not at the same time, but in a different time, you said profit driven? You are not wrong, but ignorance can't be beaten in this space I believe, there are loads of people that don't understand a time about crypto investment, and we can't blame them, they will understand in time, so I think its fine to say that, such people will become a winner someday when they realize how the whole system works.

Bitcoin is here to stay, it's not going anywhere, so the opportunity is available anytime any day, unlike altcoins, because I believe that your description suits altcoins well than Bitcoin, altcoins vanished with time, they do well once and after that it's over, they mostly never go back to their all-time high again.

This is the real meaning of using some people to make money because they got dumped on by the early investors, Bitcoin case is different.

[Rockstarguy]

Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

The market is big enough for every investor to earn profit, bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme whereby one person we make profit and the other person will lose. In Bitcoin as far as one is able to hodl, when the market rises it will benefit those who were able to hodl their bitcoin. You need to know that Bitcoin can give profit to everyone if the right is done to earn profit.  Bitcoin investment has nothing to do with smartness, What matters in Bitcoin is to Just have understanding about Bitcoin and it has nothing to do with smartness instead of smartness I think one should have patience enough to be successful in investing bitcoin.

Success in investing bitcoin is very straight forward and you don't need much strategies to for a successful investment.  Hodling is all you need to do to get success in investing bitcoin.

Bitcoin don't also make people to rich, it only helps you by strengthen you financially from what you already have, do not have the mindset that bitcoin can  make people rich from having nothing to become rich overnight.

[m2017]

Investing in cryptocurrency has become a major reason behind many holders in the Crypto space , this is an undoubted reality. We all know that bitcoins has its various usecases but 80% of holders are profit driven. To me, I have come to understand that every holder cannot become rich at thesame time because their is no free money anywhere, when one user gets enough base on its smartness and well calculated strategy, another holder become a victim. This is something that happens
In every other business. So the fact is that , success in investment is directly linked to smartness. 

You correctly noted that it is impossible to make everyone rich. This applies not only to the crypto market, but also to the traditional stock market. In both cases, the same financial laws work. If at the same time all investors want to sell their assets, be it cryptocurrencies or classic stocks, then there will not be enough money for everyone. That's the way these markets work, and the situation you describe is called a zero-sum game (if one makes a profit, then someone else loses a profit). This is very pronounced in trading.

Success doesn't have to be about smartness. Luck and chance play an important role, especially in the trading mentioned above.

[Sim_card]

All bitcoin holders makes the same profit when bitcoin price increases. The difference is that their profits varies based on how much they invested into it. The secret of holders to make good profit is holding for long. You don't expect that if Mr A buys bitcoin at $10k and holds for 10yrs and Mr B buys bitcoin at the same price and holds for 5yrs that they will but have the same profit and if 40 persons buy bitcoin at $10k and hold for 10yrs,they will all make the same profit. It is traders that buys and sells everyday that can't make the same profit each and this OP's theory will work for.