Germany DFB Cup 2023/2024 - Discussion and Prediction

[Rruchi man]

Wow. What a surprise and what joy in Saarbrücken. Bayern Munich is knocked out in the second round. Goal from Saarbrücken in injury time. The DFB Cup is always good for surprises and proved it yesterday

Just as some other top teams in the Carabao cup like Arsenal and Manchester United were knocked out, Bayern suffered the same fate in the DFB-Pokal. They lost to me because they never expected it and most likely have underestimated FC SAARBRUCKEN. There was no Harry Kane in the team, maybe if he was in they would not have scored only one goal all through the game. Bayern have been knocked out from the competition a lot, with them now having one less competition to play, they should be able to focus more on defending the Bundesliga and winning the Champions league.

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[vennali]

Wow. What a surprise and what joy in Saarbrücken. Bayern Munich is knocked out in the second round. Goal from Saarbrücken in injury time. The DFB Cup is always good for surprises and proved it yesterday

Just as some other top teams in the Carabao cup like Arsenal and Manchester United were knocked out, Bayern suffered the same fate in the DFB-Pokal. They lost to me because they never expected it and most likely have underestimated FC SAARBRUCKEN. There was no Harry Kane in the team, maybe if he was in they would not have scored only one goal all through the game. Bayern have been knocked out from the competition a lot, with them now having one less competition to play, they should be able to focus more on defending the Bundesliga and winning the Champions league.

The difference is that, Bayern Munich are supposed to win pretty much every trophy they enter, to consider their season a successful one. While, for Arsenal, United, even winning 1 trophy at the moment will be considered a good season. Unfortunate for Bayern as its a major set back for their ongoing season. While also having their primary defender getting injured in the process.

[Juggy777]

Wow. What a surprise and what joy in Saarbrücken. Bayern Munich is knocked out in the second round. Goal from Saarbrücken in injury time. The DFB Cup is always good for surprises and proved it yesterday

Just as some other top teams in the Carabao cup like Arsenal and Manchester United were knocked out, Bayern suffered the same fate in the DFB-Pokal. They lost to me because they never expected it and most likely have underestimated FC SAARBRUCKEN. There was no Harry Kane in the team, maybe if he was in they would not have scored only one goal all through the game. Bayern have been knocked out from the competition a lot, with them now having one less competition to play, they should be able to focus more on defending the Bundesliga and winning the Champions league.

The difference is that, Bayern Munich are supposed to win pretty much every trophy they enter, to consider their season a successful one. While, for Arsenal, United, even winning 1 trophy at the moment will be considered a good season. Unfortunate for Bayern as its a major set back for their ongoing season. While also having their primary defender getting injured in the process.

@vennali I totally agree with your statement as this is a major upset and I guess Kane will be disappointed as he won’t be winning this trophy as a Bayern player this season. Lastly this exit should be a wake up call for Bayern that they cannot underestimate any opponent especially in Bundesliga where every point will matter as the season progresses ahead.

[Joca97]

Wow. What a surprise and what joy in Saarbrücken. Bayern Munich is knocked out in the second round. Goal from Saarbrücken in injury time. The DFB Cup is always good for surprises and proved it yesterday

Just as some other top teams in the Carabao cup like Arsenal and Manchester United were knocked out, Bayern suffered the same fate in the DFB-Pokal. They lost to me because they never expected it and most likely have underestimated FC SAARBRUCKEN. There was no Harry Kane in the team, maybe if he was in they would not have scored only one goal all through the game. Bayern have been knocked out from the competition a lot, with them now having one less competition to play, they should be able to focus more on defending the Bundesliga and winning the Champions league.

Bayern Munich was in this match better them the other team by a lot. They just couldnt convert their chances into goals and when you miss that much a punishment must come. Ofcourse it did in the last minute and they couldnt change anything. Bayern wanted to save some of the players but ended up getting knockout again from the cup.

[emrecemsan]

I would advise you not to trust Bayern Munich ever in the DFB Pokal. Because they are always doing this sooner or later. This isn't the first time they are losing to a much lower tier team in this cup. They can even get very surprising results against Bundesliga teams in this cup such as the Monchengladbach example from two seasons ago - which ended up with a 5-0 loss. 

As a result it is the best to avoid betting on Bayern Munich win when it comes to this competition. They just don't care about it at all seemingly. We saw that in the Saarbrucken match as well. We saw really poor performances from players like Sane.

[Slow death]

In recent years I have always avoided placing bets on the cup games in each country because many of the big teams have a very complicated game schedule, so these big teams choose to rotate players when the cup starts, but when It's about being in the cup final, so these big teams play more seriously. I saw a lot of people commenting critically on Bayern's defeat, but when we look back a few months ago we can see that Bayern weren't doing well, they didn't have good results in terms of being that same team that scored a lot of goals, but they were doing well in the European champions league games, which in a way would make any fan think that the coach's position was guaranteed.

but what we saw in practice was that Bayern's management was much more concerned about the risk of not being able to win the Bundesliga and it didn't matter if the coach was doing well in the Champions League, so they fired the coach and I believe that Tuchel has We took this into consideration to the point of not risking Kane in this cup game and other good players didn't start playing, they entered the field during the game, probably to avoid injuries because Bayern in the next game will play against Dortmund, in a game which will be very important because currently Bayern are not at the top, they are in second place and a defeat or draw in this game against Dortmundo could put Bayern in a situation where they would see the title going away

and not winning the bundesliga could put tuchel's position at risk, in my opinion this defeat for bayern is not a surprise to me, this is because bayern is in a situation where they cannot have players with injuries, especially the defensive players and attack. Bayern's priority is to win the Bundesliga. Liverkusen won, but despite scoring 5 goals, they conceded 2 goals and tomorrow there will be a complicated game in the bundesliga, I'm still thinking whether to bet on them or not

[cygan]

yesterday the draw for the round of sixteen in the dfb cup was made and the remaining 6 bundesliga clubs will once again have two bl duels. saarbrücken, who beat bayern, will play at home against eintracht frankfurt and the regional league team fc homburg (4th german league) will face the leaders of the 2nd bundesliga, st. pauli.
the complete pairings can be found in the graphic - the matches will be played at the beginning of december

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Since Bayern and Leipzig are gone there is only one real highlight game left, and that's Stuttgart vs Dortmund.

The way Dortmund is playing, especially away, this should go to Stuttgart I think, I don't really understand why they are so strong this season, but somehow they are.
Saarbrücken also got a nice pick, another highlight for them. Maybe they can pull off the next big surprise?

The rest of the games is more "meh" in my eyes.

[Distraction]

In addition to the shocking elimination of Bayern Munich from the competition Freiburg and Leipzig were also eliminated. Those were also surprising news for me.

Because I wouldn't expect those teams not to care about the DFB cup much. One of the biggest teams in the competition have been eliminated too now so the other teams have a much bigger chance to go for the title. Freiburg were statistically impressive but Paderborn must have played their most efficient match - 3 goals in 3 shots on target.

Aside from that Leipzig had a much tougher match against Wolfsburg. But their effort was quite poor which led to their elimination. Especially that red card shown to Poulsen was a big hit.

Now among the remaining teams Leverkusen and Dortmund are the biggest favourites. Maybe Stuttgart would surprise us but they need Guirassy recovered from the injury first.

[bct_ail]

yesterday the draw for the round of sixteen in the dfb cup was made and the remaining 6 bundesliga clubs will once again have two bl duels.

Stuttgart vs. Dortmund: This is definitely an exciting match. Both teams even play against each other in the Bundesliga 1 at Saturday. But one will not be able to take much from the game, as the DFB Cup match will be a completely different one.

Homburg vs. St. Pauli. A good draw for Homburg, which might even be seen on television. League 4 against the actual number one in the table from Bundesliga 2.

[Soonandwaite]

oha.the hamburger sv has to go to berlin . there was something..... in the relegation to the 1st bundesliga the hsv won 1:0 in berlin .
this time the result would be enough to get one round further . i think that 20k or even 25k hamburger fans will travel to berlin to support the hambuger team .
nevertheless hertha bsc berlin is for me the favourite in this match . i hope however that both hamburger teams win and that it then comes to the derby in the dfb cup

[bct_ail]

Today and tomorrow the round of 16 in the DFB Cup takes place. There are only 2 teams left who not play in Bundesliga 1 or Bundesliga 2. FC Homburg plays in League 4 and tonight against St. Pauli. Tomorrow Saarbrücken (League 3) will play against Eintracht Frankfurt. Both teams from the Bundesliga should be careful. Homburg have won against Darmstadt and Fürth so far. And Saarbrücken have even beaten Bayern Munich.

The Games are:

[QueenVera]

In recent years I have always avoided placing bets on the cup games in each country because many of the big teams have a very complicated game schedule, so these big teams choose to rotate players when the cup starts, but when It's about being in the cup final, so these big teams play more seriously. I saw a lot of people commenting critically on Bayern's defeat, but when we look back a few months ago we can see that Bayern weren't doing well, they didn't have good results in terms of being that same team that scored a lot of goals, but they were doing well in the European champions league games, which in a way would make any fan think that the coach's position was guaranteed.

but what we saw in practice was that Bayern's management was much more concerned about the risk of not being able to win the Bundesliga and it didn't matter if the coach was doing well in the Champions League, so they fired the coach and I believe that Tuchel has We took this into consideration to the point of not risking Kane in this cup game and other good players didn't start playing, they entered the field during the game, probably to avoid injuries because Bayern in the next game will play against Dortmund, in a game which will be very important because currently Bayern are not at the top, they are in second place and a defeat or draw in this game against Dortmundo could put Bayern in a situation where they would see the title going away

The cup games in most top European countries, placing a bet on those games might be quite risky as most of these top teams prefer chasing their league title and European titles rather than a less competitive title hence, the rotation in the squad. Owing to these rotations, surprises could spur out and lead to them playing against your prediction on your bet slip. An example is Bayern Munich who were defeated by a team who sits 15 on the log in the 3rd Division of the German League, that’s crazy.

 You can see Bayern’s pointman, Kane out because to the coach, he needed to keep fit and stay cool for the league and the UCL and that risk really paid off. I think the League game in Germany will be quite complicating especially for a team like Leverkusen who still wants to keep chasing the title. Probably there could be rotation but would it result to the losing the game?? Well Xabi Alonso would do best what suits his team and in his choice, make the fan’s happiness his priority.

[Essential10]

Borussia Monchengladbach Vs VfL Wolfsburg

Borussia Monchengladbach take on Wolfsburg in Round of 16 DFB Pokal action at Borussia-Park today. Both teams are in good form and have scored in their last few matches, so this match could be exciting and high-scoring. Home advantage may play a role for Monchengladbach, but Wolfsburg's strong away form in the competition suggests they will be tough opponents. It will be interesting to see which team will come out on top in this DFB Pokal clash. A draw is a likely outcome considering recent performances but Borussia Monchengladbach could qualify for the next round with home advantage.

[bct_ail]

The cup games in most top European countries, placing a bet on those games might be quite risky as most of these top teams prefer chasing their league title and European titles rather than a less competitive title hence, the rotation in the squad. Owing to these rotations, surprises could spur out and lead to them playing against your prediction on your bet slip. An example is Bayern Munich who were defeated by a team who sits 15 on the log in the 3rd Division of the German League, that’s crazy.

You can see Bayern’s pointman, Kane out because to the coach, he needed to keep fit and stay cool for the league and the UCL and that risk really paid off. I think the League game in Germany will be quite complicating especially for a team like Leverkusen who still wants to keep chasing the title. Probably there could be rotation but would it result to the losing the game?? Well Xabi Alonso would do best what suits his team and in his choice, make the fan’s happiness his priority.

If the "little" clubs play against the big ones, I dare to bet some money. Especially when the clubs from League 3 downwards will play against Bayern Munich. In general, it seems that Bayern Munich are no longer have much interest in the DFB Cup (like you wrote about the case with Kane). They won the DFB Cup the last time in 2020. After that they only reached the 2nd round three times and the quarter-finals once. So if one have generally bet against Bayern Munich the last 4 times they have got a good win each time.

[mv1986]

The cup games in most top European countries, placing a bet on those games might be quite risky as most of these top teams prefer chasing their league title and European titles rather than a less competitive title hence, the rotation in the squad. Owing to these rotations, surprises could spur out and lead to them playing against your prediction on your bet slip. An example is Bayern Munich who were defeated by a team who sits 15 on the log in the 3rd Division of the German League, that’s crazy.

You can see Bayern’s pointman, Kane out because to the coach, he needed to keep fit and stay cool for the league and the UCL and that risk really paid off. I think the League game in Germany will be quite complicating especially for a team like Leverkusen who still wants to keep chasing the title. Probably there could be rotation but would it result to the losing the game?? Well Xabi Alonso would do best what suits his team and in his choice, make the fan’s happiness his priority.

If the "little" clubs play against the big ones, I dare to bet some money. Especially when the clubs from League 3 downwards will play against Bayern Munich. In general, it seems that Bayern Munich are no longer have much interest in the DFB Cup (like you wrote about the case with Kane). They won the DFB Cup the last time in 2020. After that they only reached the 2nd round three times and the quarter-finals once. So if one have generally bet against Bayern Munich the last 4 times they have got a good win each time.

I am not sure if you have ever followed the drama taking place at the Säbener Street when Bayern gets kicked out of the DFB Pokal in an early round. If you wanna call that "no longer have much interest in the DFB Cup", something doesn't add up there! It is getting close to being the end of the world for a few days and a trainer discussion is automatically initiated. The media is slapping the club's face for a whole week wherever they can and the bosses are looking as if they just lost a loved one.

The truth is that Bayern played some very bad DFB Cup rounds in recent years and deserved to be eliminated. In the Bundesliga they can get away with losing a couple of games like that because there is no team ready to take the opportunity and win the title. That's the huge difference between the DFB Cup and the Bundesliga.

[Soonandwaite]

the first four teams qualified for the quarter-finals of the dfb cup today. there were no real surprises. three teams from the second bundesliga are still there.
and tomorrow there will definitely be a fourth team. hertha bsc berlin or hamburger sv. here again the results from tonight


source: https://www.flashscore.com/football/germany/dfb-pokal

[AHOYBRAUSE]

the first four teams qualified for the quarter-finals of the dfb cup today. there were no real surprises. three teams from the second bundesliga are still there.
and tomorrow there will definitely be a fourth team. hertha bsc berlin or hamburger sv. here again the results from tonight

I'm happy to see Kaiserslautern to perform so well in the cup this year.
At the beginning they also looked quite good in the 2nd league but for some reason they fell off the radar and even had to change their coach recently.

Anyway, it's always nice to see traditional clubs woth a long history to perform well.

Today hopefully Dortmund will advance as well so they stay alive in 2 cups over the winter.
Playing in Stuttgart though is next to Leverkusen the hardest team they could meet in this round so my confidence level is not so high. Dortmund though is always good for a surprise ( as well as for a disappointment  ) .

[Essential10]

VfB Stuttgart Vs Borussia Dortmund

Today at the MHPArena, the match between Stuttgart and Borussia Dortmund in the round of 16 of the DFB-Pokal is set to be an exciting one. Both the teams have come in good form. Stuttgart will be looking to build on their recent win over Dortmund in the Bundesliga and continue their strong form at home. Dortmund, on the other hand, will be keen to avenge their previous defeat to Stuttgart and continue their good run in the DFB-Pokal. They will be favorites to win given Stuttgart's recent Bundesliga form and their strong performance against Dortmund in their last meeting. However, Dortmund are determined to turn the tables and secure a win. I predict that Stuttgart should be an exciting encounter with a narrow win ensuring the next round. My Prediction: Stuttgart 3-2 Borussia Dortmund.

[QueenVera]

I'm happy to see Kaiserslautern to perform so well in the cup this year.
At the beginning they also looked quite good in the 2nd league but for some reason they fell off the radar and even had to change their coach recently.

Anyway, it's always nice to see traditional clubs woth a long history to perform well.

Today hopefully Dortmund will advance as well so they stay alive in 2 cups over the winter.
Playing in Stuttgart though is next to Leverkusen the hardest team they could meet in this round so my confidence level is not so high. Dortmund though is always good for a surprise ( as well as for a disappointment  ) .

Kaiserslautern performance was quite impressive especially judging from the ups and downs the team generally have been through, Changing the coach of a team especially halfway into the season could change the team’s performance generally either way but this side has made that change affect them positively and gained points were it mattered.

 Dortmund will go through when they face Stuggart, though this match could give them some worries but they are going to come out top of this encounter and I’m so confident of that especially with the way they played Leverkusen, therefore facing Stuttgart wouldn't be very difficult for them even though Stuttgart would try to make it tough in the 1st 20-30 mins of the game.