The new U.S.-China agreement is a "forced friendship. What awaits the world ?

[Kakmakr]

I think the US realized that it is not in their best interest to have a unfriendly relationship with one of the strongest economies in the world. China also have one of the strongest military forces in the world, so having a war between China and the US, will have severe consequences for the US.

Is this a sign of weakness or a sign of mutual respect.... time will tell, if the US will tolerate all the antics from the Chinese and their actions towards other countries. (support for Russia and bypassing the sanctions) 

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[be.open]

I think the move by China to try to limit the supply of gallium and germanium to the market, specifically to U.S. companies, is very stupid. Japan is already willing to supply the necessary quantities of gallium and Canada the necessary quantities of germanium.
The bottom line is:
- China has shown its stupidity.
- The U.S. has once again demonstrated that the West does not depend on China.
- The U.S. has an official reason to introduce new "counter-sanctions" against China, which will really bring real problems for China. Which will have an extremely negative impact on China's economy.

A light version of "shooting yourself in the foot".

Prooflink?

To my knowledge, China controls about 80% of the gallium market. Japan and South Korea left the gallium supply market in 2016, Ukraine in 2019. In general, this is a very unstable and difficult market for a number of reasons, gallium is a by-product in the production of aluminum and it requires, first of all, a large amount of cheap energy for its production.

We have already discussed the issue of China's rare earth metals, and at the same time gallium and germanium. And you are well aware that what you say is, to put it mildly, distorted information
Ok, for everyone, I will once again bring the data about this metal.

The key "problem" of gallium is that there are no deposits of pure metal in nature. It is always presented as compounds with low metal content, and very "evenly" distributed. Today, the richest source of gallium is the mineral germanite, an ore composed of copper sulfide that can contain 0.5-0.7% gallium, mined in southwest Africa. These are the Tsumeb (Namibia) and Kipushi (Zaire) mines .... It's a strange name for China, isn't it ?

Gallium is also widely distributed in small amounts along with zinc obscurants, in aluminum alumina, feldspars, hard coal and ores: iron, manganese and chromium.
The largest deposits of gallium, amenable to economic extraction, are in China, Germany, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, South Korea and Russia  
That was all about primary mining.

But there is also secondary mining - Canada, Slovakia, Japan, Germany and the USA are the leaders there.

At the same time, there are more nuances: gallium can be replaced in the manufacture of semiconductors by indium, and in the technology of production of thin film solar cells - silicon-based technologies, some forms of thin film cadmium selenide or copper indium selenide based photovoltaic cells among others.

So the reality is quite different - China was by far the most massive and cheapest supplier of this metal, but there is no question of exclusivity. Now other suppliers will increase production, and consumers will simply switch to them.

For the second time in this thread I ask you for a prooflink and you again merge on some ridiculous brakes, hiding the lack of evidence behind verbosity. Japan has not supplied gallium to the foreign market since 2016. China has crushed all competitors by weight and squeezed them out of the market.

[BIT-BENDER]

There are two questions:
1. Which country has become a bargaining chip?
2. What does the world expect in terms of economics ?
3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

Firstly I think we are trying so hard to see something that is actually not there and it's actually very crazy. I don't think there is any bad blood between China and the United States of America but also I won't say they are friends, I would rather consider it a relationship that is now built on respect, they understand their strength and would do anything to avoid a war between them.

Question 1. There in none it's just a figment of people's imagination.

Question 2. Well if they move further than just mutual respect and actually work together I think the world economy would improve but it would give US and China great power over other countries .

Question 3. Still doesn't exist and we should try to see things from other perspective .

[DrBeer]

For the second time in this thread I ask you for a prooflink and you again merge on some ridiculous brakes, hiding the lack of evidence behind verbosity. Japan has not supplied gallium to the foreign market since 2016. China has crushed all competitors by weight and squeezed them out of the market.

You can ask for anything you want, it's your right. But 100500 times poking your nose in open sources, or to be educated by your education - I'm already tired of it. If you know how to use search engines - it will take you 10 seconds, and you will get a lot of pleasure from full-fledged sources, and not those "excerpts from the inscriptions on the fence", as you habitually cite as "evidence"

If you don't know how to use it, sorry, I'll find a better use for my time.

PS. Well, I will be condescending to you, you are still on the background of some, less interesting interlocutor. So - sets of keywords to search for "prufs":
1. Gallium world deposits
2. Germanium global deposits
3. Rare earth metals list
4. Gallium primary production, countries
5. Primary production of germanium, countries
6. Secondary production of gallium, countries
7. Secondary production of garmanium, countries
Don't thank me !

[slapper]

Playing Clue with world leaders in regards to which country is the 'bargaining chip' is a fair analogy. Now, don't go crazy with the 'M' clue in your head! We don't sure which 'M' in this geopolitical problem is the culprit; it might be Moldova, Mexico, or even Mars!

The message on the economy is unmistakable: maintain stability. When major powers are able to work together peacefully, international trade and investment can proceed with greater confidence. Instead of worrying about international conflicts, nations will be better able to advance their economies. Increased opportunities for international cooperation contribute to a more integrated international financial system. So, my dear Watson, the economic outlook seems to be improving despite the enigma!

[DrBeer]

Playing Clue with world leaders in regards to which country is the 'bargaining chip' is a fair analogy. Now, don't go crazy with the 'M' clue in your head! We don't sure which 'M' in this geopolitical problem is the culprit; it might be Moldova, Mexico, or even Mars!

The message on the economy is unmistakable: maintain stability. When major powers are able to work together peacefully, international trade and investment can proceed with greater confidence. Instead of worrying about international conflicts, nations will be better able to advance their economies. Increased opportunities for international cooperation contribute to a more integrated international financial system. So, my dear Watson, the economic outlook seems to be improving despite the enigma!

A bargaining chip is a country whose interests are sacrificed and whose position, without consent or any negotiations, is given away by another. As for example, the position of "the other side of the bipolar world." Who held this position until 2022? And since 2023, who to the whole world, under applause and approval, called himself "the second side of the bipolar world", without even saying a word about the past "leader"?

Regarding the prospects, I agree, the world is coming out of the covid recession, the world is stabilizing the gas and oil market, China is highly likely to find common ground and mutually beneficial compromises with the United States. But such a positive scenario "threatens" not everyone. There are those who are further away, the world is tightening the noose on a thin neck

[Wimex]

The United States is not a country that decides to bow its head like that from one moment to the next, so surely there is an ulterior motive that forced it to make this decision... i wonder what chip China will have against the United States  to make this Will you change your mind and decide to support him? It is no secret to anyone that these two countries are world powers that have always competed for the title of best territory in the world, including Russia, so a truce between them seems to me something extremely strange. The island of Taiwan has served for many years as a strategic point for the United States and losing it could bring it a great disadvantage before China since it would have the opportunity to further expand its naval predominance and in turn would be granted significant dominance over trade at the level. international, since this area is a focus of commercial exchanges between several Asian countries with the rest of the continents... so in theory it would be harming global trade by forcing those involved who are currently allies with the United States to have relations with China.

[umbara ardian]

Judging from the current situation, targeting other countries' economies and controlling the financial system is a common stance in struggles for international power and status. Competition and economic warfare can be seen as part of the modern cold war.

International relations are complex and depend on many different factors. Therefore, one has to think differently and look for different power systems and solutions to achieve stability and reconciliation in the region.

[Mpamaegbu]

I think China took Blinken's current visit as a sign of US weakness, which it actually is. The United States realized that it was not possible to frighten China with large-scale exercises and that the American military-industrial complex could not pull a proxy war on two fronts. You have to bend and flirt, but without much success - Blinken was received much worse in China than Bill Gates.

It has always been obvious that China is greater than the US in might. It's just that the Chinese aren't loud mouthed like the Americans who live in denial. Recent world developments and happenings have really exposed the US and revealed that she's not as powerful as she claims.

A few years before Barack Obama became the president of the US, I read one of his books: perhaps, The Audacity of Hope, or so where Obama in his flowery language exposed the helplessness of the American government when paired with China in terms of human capital development, population and a few other things. That book was an eye opener for me into the American politics and economy to a great extent.

[DrBeer]

We have already discussed the issue of China's rare earth metals, and at the same time gallium and germanium. And you are well aware that what you say is, to put it mildly, distorted information
Ok, for everyone, I will once again bring the data about this metal.

The key "problem" of gallium is that there are no deposits of pure metal in nature. It is always presented as compounds with low metal content, and very "evenly" distributed. Today, the richest source of gallium is the mineral germanite, an ore composed of copper sulfide that can contain 0.5-0.7% gallium, mined in southwest Africa. These are the Tsumeb (Namibia) and Kipushi (Zaire) mines .... It's a strange name for China, isn't it ?

Gallium is also widely distributed in small amounts along with zinc obscurants, in aluminum alumina, feldspars, hard coal and ores: iron, manganese and chromium.
The largest deposits of gallium, amenable to economic extraction, are in China, Germany, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, South Korea and Russia  
That was all about primary mining.

But there is also secondary mining - Canada, Slovakia, Japan, Germany and the USA are the leaders there.

At the same time, there are more nuances: gallium can be replaced in the manufacture of semiconductors by indium, and in the technology of production of thin film solar cells - silicon-based technologies, some forms of thin film cadmium selenide or copper indium selenide based photovoltaic cells among others.

So the reality is quite different - China was by far the most massive and cheapest supplier of this metal, but there is no question of exclusivity. Now other suppliers will increase production, and consumers will simply switch to them.

Whenever I see your name, I know that it will 100% be a post that supports USA or attacks one of its enemies, you have not written anything that is out of that in many months to be fair and you weren't like this. You have became full on uncle sam in the past few months, interesting to see.

Just because China sold it cheap, doesn't mean they will continue to do so, just because other places can, doesn't mean they can continue to do so. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Sure other nations may have some, but they do not have as much as China, and not like the demand for this will go to zero neither, hence China could limit it, and let it end in other places, and jack up the price, it is not unlikely. Why is this so hard to see?

In order for you, after this post of yours, not to look funny and one-sided, a suggestion: bring here, an excerpt from my answer, where I praise the USA, and humiliate its opponents.
By the way, for one - give me a list of opponents of the USA or countries that consider the USA as their competitors or that have other opposition ?

PS I can assume that "humiliation of US opponents", in your worldview, is the presentation of real facts and figures. But I have to disappoint you once again - TRUTH....This is TRUTH. It may not be pleasant, it may even be ugly. But it's the truth! I realize that some people don't like the truth, that's a fact too
If I have given a FALSE fact or argument - I would love to hear your reasoned response ! Go ahead