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June 19, 2023, 03:55:08 PM
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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment, I can't help but think that most gambling companies in the U.S are almost successful, only little to none run of out business in few years, gambling is a lucrative business, so I need answers if this is possible. Thanks


Not really true. In crypto, there are a lot of casinos that shut down because the business is unsuccessful. In crypto, reputation is important and it could be the reason for its death.

There are several casinos that do have tokens and will allow you to stake which also gives you dividends. It's not guaranteed profitable and I'm speaking about my experience with two casinos I have tried investing.

Here is the list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353217.0


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June 19, 2023, 04:15:46 PM
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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment, I can't help but think that most gambling companies in the U.S are almost successful, only little to none run of out business in few years, gambling is a lucrative business, so I need answers if this is possible. Thanks


This is an interesting question indeed, I sometimes wonder about this but have never really remembered or made the time available to do some research on it,
Reading comments above mine, I must say that it is interesting to really know that most casinos do have stocks people can invest in, now the process involved to acquire those stocks is what we need to find out, I will personally find time to make more research on how feasible and easy the process is for a non American citizen to invest in this stocks, would be cool if it's as easy as investing in crypto.

If you want to invest in the stock and fund of world known gambling sites, this is for you:

https://www.bankrate.com/investing/ways-to-invest-in-sports-betting
https://www.bankrate.com/investing/casinos-online-gambling-investing

I only prefer to gamble. If I want to invest, I speculate the crypto market and invest in bitcoin and other better cryptocurrencies, not the shit coins though.
I don't think the op is referring to the crypto side of casinos, or crypto coins, if it was this, I believe op already have knowledge of it and don't need to he asking that here, I think he meant like real-world stocks, that is registered casinos having their stocks trading on the Stock market.
Yes the casino is like other stock interactions and that way any gambler can invest in the business,  just like I said before,  bankroll is one of the investment model employ by casino to help players make direct investment and take part in the revenue sharing of the casino and their are the investors who take casino as their stock market where their provide a particular liquidity in whatever acceptable assets to gain returns.






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June 19, 2023, 04:20:24 PM
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I have no idea about casinos that dabble in stocks, but I do know about their bankroll investments and casino tokens which are the closest things to stocks basically. You can earn from them as long as the casino stays in business.

This isn't the best way to earn from gambling sites op and it isn't risk-free which is why you shouldn't blindly invest in them without doing proper research.

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June 19, 2023, 04:31:35 PM
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That is a nice question and the comments I read gave me a good insight about why it is not the right investment as of now.
Firstly, there are not good options to buy stocks related to gambling sites and even if there are some it is still better to invest in crypto directly.
This does makes sense because by investing in crypto directly you would know what you are doing and own your coins.
By investing in stocks related to gambling sites you would never know what's going on in the backend.

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June 19, 2023, 04:43:27 PM
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There are two ways to invest in casinos....

1. Go to the stock exchange and see what brick n mortar (land based) casinos are listed and then invest in buying some of their stocks.

or

2. Browse online casinos where they offer investors a staking option, where you invest in their bankroll and then share a percentage of the profits.

The option 1 is a safer bet than option 2.... imho, because there are a lot of unregulated / scam online Crypto casinos out there. The stock exchange is very regulated.  Tongue

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June 19, 2023, 11:46:56 PM
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There are two ways to invest in casinos....

1. Go to the stock exchange and see what brick n mortar (land based) casinos are listed and then invest in buying some of their stocks.

or

2. Browse online casinos where they offer investors a staking option, where you invest in their bankroll and then share a percentage of the profits.

The option 1 is a safer bet than option 2.... imho, because there are a lot of unregulated / scam online Crypto casinos out there. The stock exchange is very regulated.  Tongue

more then likely, the chance of being listed in the stock market is higher for offline casinos as compared to online casinos. so yeah, you can always check the stock exchange and see which land-based casinos are listed. however, you should do your due diligence if the casino itself is performing good in the industry.
for online casinos, most of the time they are offering bank vaults or staking options. or in other words, joining on their bankroll investment options. you can easily see the actual performance and reputation of online casinos especially for crypto casinos if you are already here in the forum. so the decision is quite easier however, the risk is high as well.

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June 22, 2023, 03:16:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing and he's very piqued to invest in gambling sites for the apparent success that they earned. I don't think it is wrong just cause you won't invest in it lmao. Let the man have his fun. Pretty sure he'd do his homework too if he feels like he needs to and...
I am not sure about that because his tone is so unsure and he ask a lot of questions about it but that is a good approach to do if are newbie to it. We shouldn't just trust our instincts and invest because that is the common cause of a failure. BTW, he is not investing in gambling sites but it was on their stocks rather. There must be a difference between the two because investing in a gambling site seems a direct one and there are casinos who are offering it. It's called bankroll investing in other terms.

it's not something that you have to reiterate to him cause there's no way a guy who knows nothing about stocks and investing in them will ask people in this forum about investing in casino stocks. That's just stupid.
The @OP is not asking us to do the same thing but he was only asking for our help or if we already have a knowledge and experience when it comes to these matters. But there is really a stupid or better call them fraudsters who likes to encourage people even them their selves are not expert about the thing that they are promoting.

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June 22, 2023, 04:03:46 PM
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Yes.
It would be easy if you are from the US, go to your local broker. The problem is for international investors, you need to find a broker that serves the global market and lists these stocks since not all stocks are available on their platform.
Hmm, that is interesting, but I guess only worthful for US residents. I imagine to invest from a foreigner country must be really bureaucratic and expensive considering the extra taxes you will have to pay, the broker service (middleman) and so on... Besides the fact gambling industry is already heavily taxed by regulators, what will impact the investment negatively.

For investors in general, from the whole world, there was a better alternative, which was the bankroll investment at crypto casinos, but from 5-6 years ago till now this kind of investment has been disappearing and losing importance on the industry, what is really unfortunate, because back then it was possible to make about 50% yearly return on this category of investment at main crypto casinos.

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June 22, 2023, 04:59:09 PM
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Since when is stock investment better than crypto investment? I will advice you to stay with cryptic because stock investment is a longer longer term investment, it's not like crypto that every four years you get the best smile with your bag, with stock you have to pray that the company stock performs better and even if they do, the return of investment is not comparable to that of crypto, you will always make the best ROI from crypto vs stock.



To be fair, he may be wanting to have some ways to diversify his portfolio with some stocks related to casinos and sport-betting. You are right when comes to the possibility of big profit in a relatively short time when you talk about crypto tokens related to casinos. But sometimes going for some less volatile assets to include in our holding is also advisable; depending on the personal objectives each one of us could have.

If I could, I would buy some blue chip stocks as well, to hold on the long term, but unfortunately I do not have access to them from here where I live.

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June 22, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
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Hmm, that is interesting, but I guess only worthful for US residents. I imagine to invest from a foreigner country must be really bureaucratic and expensive considering the extra taxes you will have to pay, the broker service (middleman) and so on... Besides the fact gambling industry is already heavily taxed by regulators, what will impact the investment negatively.
Yea, the KYC stuff is pretty strict and since it's not guaranteed by the local government, unlike local brokers, there are risks of getting scammed as well. However, if you are a big investor, you can ask a US investment bank that has an office in your country, pretty sure they can open an account for you if you have the money. But for most of us, we probably stuck with IBKR, Fidelity, E-Toro, and the like.

For investors in general, from the whole world, there was a better alternative, which was the bankroll investment at crypto casinos, but from 5-6 years ago till now this kind of investment has been disappearing and losing importance on the industry, what is really unfortunate, because back then it was possible to make about 50% yearly return on this category of investment at main crypto casinos.
This is high risk as well, I'd put it more risky than using any brokers above.
Their bottom line isn't audited and when the shop closed, you'll have nowhere to complain.

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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment, I can't help but think that most gambling companies in the U.S are almost successful, only little to none run of out business in few years, gambling is a lucrative business, so I need answers if this is possible. Thanks

Gambling is an industry and every industry has company.  Company have stocks especially large casinos.  If you are interested in this kind of stocks you can check this site: https://www.tipranks.com/compare-stocks/casino, they publish stocks movement of a casino.  They also give some prediction that may deem useful if to its reader if they are interested to know which casino company stock market is doing well.  At the same time the site stated that Wynn Resorts (WYNN), MGM Resorts (MGM) and Caesars Entertainment (CZR) are some of the most trending casino stocks.
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Yes.
It would be easy if you are from the US, go to your local broker. The problem is for international investors, you need to find a broker that serves the global market and lists these stocks since not all stocks are available on their platform.
Hmm, that is interesting, but I guess only worthful for US residents. I imagine to invest from a foreigner country must be really bureaucratic and expensive considering the extra taxes you will have to pay, the broker service (middleman) and so on... Besides the fact gambling industry is already heavily taxed by regulators, what will impact the investment negatively.

For investors in general, from the whole world, there was a better alternative, which was the bankroll investment at crypto casinos, but from 5-6 years ago till now this kind of investment has been disappearing and losing importance on the industry, what is really unfortunate, because back then it was possible to make about 50% yearly return on this category of investment at main crypto casinos.
I haven't seen or heard of any investment that involved direct deposits into a casino address but I am aware of the bankroll mechanism that has helped a lot of gamblers to stock up their spare money on the casino bankroll to take part in the revenue-sharing of the casino.

This method of investment has been the most popular and most effective with real-time display of investors' earnings per time.



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June 22, 2023, 09:22:30 PM
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You are missing the point of gambling. We are gambling to get source of entertainment from gambling games and not having profit alone. Gamblers can always just purchased other stocks if they want investment and not to gamble. Investing on gambling company will never satisfy someone gambling needs.
You are right, we mostly gamble for entertainment purposes. But there are some people who gamble for earning money as their main purposes. Since it is a bit impossible to earn money constantly by gambling, the alternative is to purchase stocks on gambling sites. We know gambling owners always win, so having stocks in the company looks interesting. However, it should be top gambling companies, it isn't recommended to purchase stocks in new gambling company.

If the purpose is to earn money/profits, investing in a gambling company looks like a good idea. But if the purpose is to get entertainment, surely investing in a gambling company won't satisfy you. To have entertainment, you must play the gambling games.  Grin

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June 22, 2023, 09:39:54 PM
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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment, I can't help but think that most gambling companies in the U.S are almost successful, only little to none run of out business in few years, gambling is a lucrative business, so I need answers if this is possible. Thanks
Yes of course it could be a good investment but it wouldn't be crypto one, it would just be a traditional financial investment. In addition land-based casinos are more and more challenged by online ones, so it's not sure they will be able to continue to grow in the coming years. An investment in cryptos in decentralized liquidity pools from decentralized casinos and sportsbooks would be a smarter investment IMO.

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June 22, 2023, 09:57:58 PM
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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment, I can't help but think that most gambling companies in the U.S are almost successful, only little to none run of out business in few years, gambling is a lucrative business, so I need answers if this is possible. Thanks


If they are publicly listed companies then it will be easy for you to invest with them as well.
Though some site are also allowing investors but I’m not sure about its safety and its feature. Investing on a profitable company doesn’t mean you can have profit too, you still have to analyze because stocks are just like crypto, its a pump and dump market and FA and TA should be done to avoid being trap for a long time with that stock company.

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June 22, 2023, 09:59:09 PM
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Yeah, it is possible to invest in the share of gambling companies but you have to find the right broker to realize this idea. Since Evolution live games provider has bought Netent(the old slot provider) I dunno how now the shares are publicly traded but you can make your own research before investing. Risks are great in this industry, be ready for possible volatility or one-night price dump if something bad happens at the casino Wink

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June 22, 2023, 10:10:27 PM
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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment, I can't help but think that most gambling companies in the U.S are almost successful, only little to none run of out business in few years, gambling is a lucrative business, so I need answers if this is possible. Thanks


^ Yes that is definitely right, gambling companies can indeed have stocks that are available for investment, commonly called it here tokens but that is different of course. However, if you are interested in investing in gambling stocks, you can research and identify publicly traded gambling companies and check if their stocks are listed on stock exchanges. Some well-known gambling companies that have publicly traded stocks include Las Vegas Sands Corp and Caesars Entertainment Corp.
Everything investment has a risk and I hope you already understand this, because the gambling industry, like any other sector, can experience fluctuations and uncertainties. Therefore, it is very important to conduct thorough research, consider your investment goals and potentially seek advice from a financial professional before making any investment decisions.
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June 22, 2023, 10:12:39 PM
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For investors in general, from the whole world, there was a better alternative, which was the bankroll investment at crypto casinos, but from 5-6 years ago till now this kind of investment has been disappearing and losing importance on the industry, what is really unfortunate, because back then it was possible to make about 50% yearly return on this category of investment at main crypto casinos.
This is high risk as well, I'd put it more risky than using any brokers above.
Their bottom line isn't audited and when the shop closed, you'll have nowhere to complain.
Indeed, it was a huge risk to invest in casinos' bankrolls, but it worked nicely with Yolodice and Crypto-games.com. It's true they could simply scam investors, but they had a positive reputation back then and it was enough for many people to trust funds to them.

Even though Crypto-Games.com removed the bankroll investment feature later, investors were warned beforehand, so they could cashout their funds. And regards Yolodice, the casino just closed the doors, but everyone was warned beforehand as well in order to be able to cashout funds.

So in these cases, we had a happy ending, although right now I don't trust investing in any casinos around which offer the feature, but I would give it a try if a casino of the size and influence of Stake made it possible.

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June 22, 2023, 10:22:01 PM
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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment,

Surely, some gambling companies are involved in stocks. However, you can't expect most to be opened for shares or available in public.

Adding to that, there are also gambling companies that might have a current investment in other stocks and assets. Here in crypto, there are gambling sites that offer bankroll investment but not common nowadays. Other crypto-gambling sites also have gambling utility tokens which as a holder, you can gain benefits from using that in the platform.

If you are really interested to look at those, you can consider consulting a broker for a much more accurate response.

These people are the ones who can really guide you to what you really need specifically.

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June 22, 2023, 10:26:40 PM
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Since gambling companies are registered companies, is it possible that they have stocks? Is there anyway to invest in a gambling stock? Or let's say gambling related stocks? I am thinking that if this is possible then this could be one of the ways to get the best out of gambling and investment, I can't help but think that most gambling companies in the U.S are almost successful, only little to none run of out business in few years, gambling is a lucrative business, so I need answers if this is possible. Thanks


If you know anyone, you can let us know because I will be interested also if any existed. Gambling is a very lucrative business that is why we have many gambling platform but many are fake and are nit genuine ready to take gamblers money in different ways possible. If we know how many if these gambling platforms we bet on are making from us, we will be very surprised and want to have our own casino. If there is any gambling stock, that will be fine and many gamblers would want to invest in the stock to earn more money as to bet and keep making winnings.

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