A discussion On Too Much Gambling Addiction Topic

[robelneo]

I will lock this thread once it reaches 40 responses or the discussion reaches its high point.


I understand there is a call to minimize gambling addiction topics

I think topics/discussion on gambling addictions is too much

I understand the concern raised, but we need to understand that this forum is an internet platform since it has a good rank every topic that we discuss and started is indexed immediately by Google for those visitors who are looking for their concerns.

I have here two samples of topics about gambling addiction and both topics landed on the first page
so my point is we are helping this forum to gain more traffic and visitors if we have a unique and fresh topic and this is why what we advertise in our signature gets more leads.

I voted that the topic of gambling should be minimized but if there are unique topics about gambling addiction it's okay to create one.

So it's like this
A good discussion gets indexed for new visitors and new leads for what we advertise.

This is my take what's your take?

[Oshosondy]

I have here two samples of topics about gambling addiction and both topics landed on the first page
so my point is we are helping this forum to gain more traffic and visitors if we have a unique and fresh topic and this is why what we advertise in our signature gets more leads.

Another thing is that we do not know any gambling addict that may search online about how to reduce gambling addiction, search engines will likely bring up what are new. New topics and active threads on this forum are more likely to be seen at the top, included on the search result.

The one I like most are the real life happenings which some gamblers do bring to this forum. They are lessons people can learn for not to get addicted or to quit the addiction.

[Casdinyard]

I will lock this thread once it reaches 40 responses or the discussion reaches its high point.


I understand there is a call to minimize gambling addiction topics

I think topics/discussion on gambling addictions is too much

I understand the concern raised, but we need to understand that this forum is an internet platform since it has a good rank every topic that we discuss and started is indexed immediately by Google for those visitors who are looking for their concerns.

I have here two samples of topics about gambling addiction and both topics landed on the first page
so my point is we are helping this forum to gain more traffic and visitors if we have a unique and fresh topic and this is why what we advertise in our signature gets more leads.

I voted that the topic of gambling should be minimized but if there are unique topics about gambling addiction it's okay to create one.

So it's like this
A good discussion gets indexed for new visitors and new leads for what we advertise.

This is my take what's your take?

I pretty much stand by what you are talking about here. We all need exposure for this forum every now and again anyway otherwise the people behind this forum wouldn't be able to pay for stuff. It's just that in spirit of making sure all discussions are fruitful and are relevant, I also stand by the idea that we have to minimize a couple of posts about gambling addiction, in favor of much more relevant discussions. There's nothing wrong with talking about how you fucked up and are now a gambling addict hoping to get some form of recovery in the future, but at some point these people are doing it either for merits, for 5 minutes of internet fame, or basically just to rake in sympathy, only for them to go back to gambling the moment they get a chance which is just god-awful for me. Plus these threads become breeding grounds for shitposters/commenters too.

I don't know either how we could come up with a fool-proof plan to filter out these nasty things but I sure do hope something of the likes come up in the future.

[Cantsay]

According to what I have read so far it seems like users are not happy because of two reasons:

• The possiblity of newbies getting scared to even try out gambling or stop gambling totally because of what they read here in the forum
• Spamming

The two reasons above are reasonable if you ask me, but first we must understand that anyone that was able to find their way to bitcointalk can also reach other plat and I'm sure that there are other platform that still talks about the effects of gambling addictions, it's not a secret that should be kept hidden and it's best that we educate newbies so that they can learn how to control themselves. and like the popular quote says "A stitch in time saves nine".

As for the spamming; if a new thread that is already in existence and still active is created then the best solution would be to simply report it to mod for the thread to be locked or deleted and the Op of that thread should be directed to the already existing thread. But the issue we are going to experience is that many users would be hesistant to report the thread as they could easily use it to complete their signature weekly quota, and that's why you still see some thread that should have been reported for it to be deleted is still active.

TL;DR if an already existing topic is created click "report to moderators" and report it, as simple as that.

[AbuBhakar]

According to what I have read so far it seems like users are not happy because of two reasons:

• The possiblity of newbies getting scared to even try out gambling or stop gambling totally because of what they read here in the forum

A newbie that will search for gambling here in the forum is not a total newbie in real life. Many high roller player has a low rank account because they don’t post frequently and some whale join here once they have concern. We are just making our forum stricter by giving making this gambling discussion a big deal while gambling discussion on reddit is full of this topic without any complains by other reddit user.

• Spamming

It can’t consider too as spamming since this kind of gambling addiction topic often times being flooded immediately by sports thread. You can count only 1 to 3 topics like this per page when we browse the gambling boards.

Users just notice the increase of topic like this but it’s not on an alarming rate to the point that it already dominates a single page on gambling section.


This is my current view right now on list of threads here in gambling discussion. I don’t see any sign of bunch of addiction thread in there.

[bittraffic]

One hot mother of all gambling addiction thread I guess will solve this issue. This gambling addiction thread will constantly rise above as everyday people have something to say and will serve as a constant reminder for all that gambling can result in addiction.  

But will it really be part of the rules in the forum? Because any time of the day there will be one person who will create because of his casino addiction. There is no way this permission can be voided.

[Wiwo]

I have here two samples of topics about gambling addiction and both topics landed on the first page
so my point is we are helping this forum to gain more traffic and visitors if we have a unique and fresh topic and this is why what we advertise in our signature gets more leads.

Another thing is that we do not know any gambling addict that may search online about how to reduce gambling addiction, search engines will likely bring up what are new. New topics and active threads on this forum are more likely to be seen at the top, included on the search result.

The one I like most are the real-life happenings which some gamblers do bring to this forum. They are lessons people can learn for not to get addicted or to quit the addiction.

Oshosondy I agree with you on that because real-life topics/stories related to gambling addictions and their resultant effects on the victims are a big way to learn lessons faster,  e.g we used to discuss a gambler who lost about 1.4 million dollars bet and his selected game was based on sure odds which was low odds around 1.2 -1.5 or so.

That kind of story helped greatly since it gave us the chance to truly analyze a real-life situation and many members here all air their opinion on the incident even though we don't really know the victim in question. I

[Kakmakr]

OP, you posted a single forum thread on one person that are against all of these threads that are discussing "gambling addiction" ....so it is not a trend or the opinion of a large portion of the people on this forum. It will be interesting to create a Poll on this subject to see if more people feel this way.

I personally think that people should be informed on the dangers of gambling and how to gamble responsibly. There are currently an in-balance between creating awareness of the dangers and the marketing of gambling on this forum. (there are more marketing) 

[Wiwo]

OP, you posted a single forum thread on one person that are against all of these threads that are discussing "gambling addiction" ....so it is not a trend or the opinion of a large portion of the people on this forum. It will be interesting to create a Poll on this subject to see if more people feel this way.

I agree with,  I am against the trend but that was just my own personal opinion and view on the subject matter and shouldn't be referred to as a call,  the thread was just a suggestion and discussion to know what the whole community think about the trend in this related topic and word.

The thread ops shared the link in the topic is nothing and shouldn't be taken as opinion of many so creating a poll for such discussion is like creating a pill to ask what the community feels an AI usage in generating text.

I personally think that people should be informed on the dangers of gambling and how to gamble responsibly. There aiscurrently an in-balance between creating awareness of the dangers and the marketing of gambling on this forum. (there aismore marketing) 

I agree with you on this,  there is a need for awareness creation on the danger of gambling excessively and possible addictions because we have a hard high increase in gambling addiction cases shared here in the forum and to prevent newbies from falling into that it becomes necessary to make sure we send out a warning in the best possible ways.

[darkangel11]

I feel like there's really no way to limit this unless admins keep a close eye on new threads that focus on addiction. You can create a sticky thread and it may be used by half of the posters, but the other half will keep making random threads. You can see it in every single part of the forum where people don't use the search function but start the same topics asking the same questions over and over again, like will bitcoin die?, can bitcoin go to 0?, who is Satoshi, and so on.

Personally I'd like to see less topics from people asking how to fight addiction, because there's hundreds more than 10 similar threads where they can find answers, but they don't want that. They prefer to start a new thread because it's faster than reading replies in old threads.

[Davidvictorson]

I have here two samples of topics about gambling addiction and both topics landed on the first page
so my point is we are helping this forum to gain more traffic and visitors if we have a unique and fresh topic and this is why what we advertise in our signature gets more leads.

Another thing is that we do not know any gambling addict that may search online about how to reduce gambling addiction, search engines will likely bring up what are new. New topics and active threads on this forum are more likely to be seen at the top, included on the search result.

The one I like most are the real life happenings which some gamblers do bring to this forum. They are lessons people can learn for not to get addicted or to quit the addiction.

Yap, I like the real live stories of gamblers shared on this forum. Despite being from different parts of the world those stories are highly relatable and the solutions to those of gambling addiction I find effective for those you make the effort to apply them. However, I would suggest if it were possible that rather than new topics being created on the same theme on addiction, could it be just on thread where gambling addiction is discussed? How possible is this? The thread would still be active and it would still pop up at the first page of search reasults.

[BitcoinPanther]

As much as we wanted to see fewer threads about gambling addiction so that reply and important information can be found in a fewer place, member are free to create any kind of topic as long as it belongs to the board.  Aside from that, new topic also entice new replies that can possibly have good information that cannot be found on the previous thread of  gambling addiction discussion.

So my take, I don't mind but to those who are somehow irritated by this influx of gambling addiction topic, report button is always there.

[Zlantann]

I will lock this thread once it reaches 40 responses or the discussion reaches its high point.


I understand there is a call to minimize gambling addiction topics

I think topics/discussion on gambling addictions is too much

I understand the concern raised, but we need to understand that this forum is an internet platform since it has a good rank every topic that we discuss and started is indexed immediately by Google for those visitors who are looking for their concerns.

I have here two samples of topics about gambling addiction and both topics landed on the first page
so my point is we are helping this forum to gain more traffic and visitors if we have a unique and fresh topic and this is why what we advertise in our signature gets more leads.

I voted that the topic of gambling should be minimized but if there are unique topics about gambling addiction it's okay to create one.

So it's like this
A good discussion gets indexed for new visitors and new leads for what we advertise.

This is my take what's your take?

OP what you said is true based on the economic perspective of the forum. But you cannot stop people from sharing their stories because we learn from people's experience. Like you said we should encourage members to come up with unique and educative topics that can benefit the forum. Maybe gambling addiction is the hottest topic now and it will shift to something else in the future. But we should drop quality posts that will educate or inform people and some can even be attracted to the forum. If the post have good quality, people will enjoy it regardless of the category. There are some stories in the gambling sectors that are not encouraging. They are badly written and sometimes filled with inconsistencies that are very clear. Bitcointalk is one of the best platforms to get information because it is regulated and has quality members. 

[Wexnident]

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I voted that the topic of gambling should be minimized but if there are unique topics about gambling addiction it's okay to create one.

So it's like this
A good discussion gets indexed for new visitors and new leads for what we advertise.

This is my take what's your take?
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Well as much as we want to limit it to topics that are unique or haven't been discussed before is well, one, some users simply just don't search up if the topic has been discussed before already, and two, we can't exactly limit users from creating topics that they want. It's also pretty hard to identify a "unique" topic since after a topic goes under for quite a while, discussion about it is simply forgotten and someone would simply create a new one (an instance of the first case I said).

Yap, I like the real live stories of gamblers shared on this forum. Despite being from different parts of the world those stories are highly relatable and the solutions to those of gambling addiction I find effective for those you make the effort to apply them. However, I would suggest if it were possible that rather than new topics being created on the same theme on addiction, could it be just on thread where gambling addiction is discussed? How possible is this? The thread would still be active and it would still pop up at the first page of search reasults.

The possibility of it being buried among other topics is still there. Megathreads were possible because said topics had events that are regularly updated, so the thread stays at the first or second page of the forum. A topic about addiction may stay on top for say a month at max imo, but after that? It's not like it's a guarantee that someone has a story that they can tell every month or two.

[btc_angela]

Personally I'd like to see less topics from people asking how to fight addiction, because there's hundreds more than 10 similar threads where they can find answers, but they don't want that. They prefer to start a new thread because it's faster than reading replies in old threads.

Or they simply want to share their stories here, that's why they don't search or don't want to search specially some newbies who just came across our forum or some old heads, who have been in gambling for so many years and could have admit that they are addicted, and yet they can't stop it and so they post their horror stories about their gambling addiction and maybe try to seek help here. And who knows, maybe someone that will reply to him will have a great effect on his mentally and might quit gambling either short or long term.

[ralle14]

TL;DR if an already existing topic is created click "report to moderators" and report it, as simple as that.

I used to do this back when the gambling section had more redundant threads, but I got discouraged when most of my reports got marked as bad. At that time, they would usually delete these threads, but nowadays, most threads would only get locked or moved to a different board.

The other alternative is to discourage others from posting in these threads because they will be pushed back to the next pages very fast since we have a lot of active threads in the gambling discussion board.

[SmartGold01]

People are paying much attention to this section because they believe lots of people out there are facing serious challenges in that area of life. People hardly pay attention on what gambling addiction would results to their lives if they don't responsibly gamble, what I also noticed is that new people are being introduced or picking interest to gamble in every blessed day so there should be lots of talks, content and post to show and proves those who are intending to come into gambling to understand what it takes as well as minimizing the rate at which they gamble's because when it gets worse it could be hard to control. However, other gambling topics should be highlighted meaning they should filter out those with low quality effort and lock them.

[Docnaster]

There is actually nothing much we can do about this repetitive gambling discussion threads. It seems that it is seasonal, so when it's time is past they will all fade away or be buried. However, it is a very food campaign and we should be proud of it, addicts can begin to ask themselves why the addiction topics are rampant and as such they will choose to repent.
As you noted in Op, people who wants to cure their gambling addiction may end up joint this forum and I wonder what will happen afterwards

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I very much agree with the op, in as much as creating several new threads that simply based on same type of discussion should be highly discouraged, fact remains that there are still some types of discussion that need to be stay on and refreshed from time to time, and topics on gambling addiction and one of those, it's something that the gambling community should always have in their sub conscious mind always so they don't allow themselves to be carried away when they engage in their gambling activity each time.

So yeah, a reduction is OK though. But not total scrapping, would be Ok to always have atleast one or two discussions centered on gambling addiction ongoing always on the forum.
Just my opinion and suggestion.

[elevates]

There is actually nothing much we can do about this repetitive gambling discussion threads. It seems that it is seasonal, so when it's time is past they will all fade away or be buried. However, it is a very food campaign and we should be proud of it, addicts can begin to ask themselves why the addiction topics are rampant and as such they will choose to repent.
As you noted in Op, people who wants to cure their gambling addiction may end up joint this forum and I wonder what will happen afterwards

I don't think it is seasonal. Once a while is considered to be seasonal. All of a sudden is considered to be deliberate. Another important thing to notice here is that all these threads in someway or another have the same content but different title. We cannot do anything about them as they are not violating any rules but we could stop replying on them.