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June 19, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
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How do people that doesn't use quotes or mentions notification bots browse this forum? I mean, it is wrong and does not promote healthy discussion. I am a user who is always not excited by whatever is in the opening topic (OP). I rather go through the flowing conversation to see who holds opposite opinion with me, then I will go in for some kind of debate in order to come out of the conversation more informed. Although this has its backlash, some merits sources will not hand out merits to you if you challenge their opinions, that is why some users prefer to lick the ass of others maybe to be in their good book for merits.Pardon me for a slight off topic

It's sometimes hurting when you quote or mention someone with the mind to further engage in conversation with the person, but the fellow might never return again to the thread. Could it be these set of users that Royse777 and Hhampuz complain that they use the forum in a wrong way or they post for weekly pay.

If you use notification bots, it will not be difficult to complete and exceed your weekly post quota. There will also not be a slight room for AI usage. If you engage in meaningful conversation in upto three threads, it is possible you can make even more than 10 posts a day and also will be learning new things.
People who doesn't use any of these notification bots should try and activate one to promote quality and meaningful discussion in the forum.

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June 19, 2023, 08:11:55 PM
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Before I discovered the notification bot thread, I was still replying to my quoted replies. How I did it back then was to enable notification for each of the threads that I last visited. Every new comment that dropped there, I always got notifications about it, and when I went back to the threads, I checked to see if I was mentioned or not. Sometimes I also found some interesting new comments that dropped under the thread, which I might pick up on by either asking questions or throwing more light on the discussion. Another thing I usually do is search my name in the search section every 24 hours to check if I was mentioned by any member or something came up with my name.
 
To be honest, this notification bot is really helpful and has reduced the stress of searching and doing all that other manual checking stuff. I believe there are a lot of people who are still aware of the notification bot, and a few who are aware don't like making use of Telegram and, as such, won't want to create one because of that.

Although this has its backlash, some merits sources will not hand out merits to you if you challenge their opinions, that is why some users prefer to lick the ass of others maybe to be in their good book for merits.Pardon me for a slight off topic
 
We are all entitled to our own different opinions, and I don't think going against someone based on your own understanding is enough reason for them not to give you some merit if you deserve it. There are actually polite ways of telling someone they are wrong without attaching some insult to it, and when such is done, no harm can come with it.

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June 19, 2023, 08:26:36 PM
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It's sometimes hurting when you quote or mention someone with the mind to further engage in conversation with the person, but the fellow might never return again to the thread. Could it be these set of users that Royse777 and Hhampuz complain that they use the forum in a wrong way or they post for weekly pay.

I didn't use any notifier for years and netheless I looked through the topics I posted anything for at least several days in case someone will answer me. If I didn't answer then it was only when I thought that my answer will be unnecessary. So if it was not @me in the topic I didn't write anything in I saw that someone answered me.

As for those who don't answer. I see many who never answers. It is not a mean of not knowing about that they have an answer, they just don't want. They write some exact number of posts for a signature campaign, usually many of them answer only the first post in the topic or even just its title. If they'll start using notifier they'll won't answer anyway. Especially those ones who have a bunch of accounts. They are not really interested anyhow in what they talk about.

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June 19, 2023, 08:31:42 PM
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How do people that doesn't use quotes or mentions notification bots browse this forum? I mean, it is wrong and does not promote healthy discussion. I am a user who is always not excited by whatever is in the opening topic (OP). I rather go through the flowing conversation to see who holds opposite opinion with me, then I will go in for some kind of debate in order to come out of the conversation more informed. Although this has its backlash, some merits sources will not hand out merits to you if you challenge their opinions, that is why some users prefer to lick the ass of others maybe to be in their good book for merits.Pardon me for a slight off topic

The Original Post is very important. The first thing to do when you open a post is to read the first post of the Original Poster because it is the independent variable that controls the comments which now becomes the dependent variable. You cannot understand the thread without reading the first post.    


If you use notification bots, it will not be difficult to complete and exceed your weekly post quota. There will also not be a slight room for AI usage. If you engage in meaningful conversation in upto three threads, it is possible you can make even more than 10 posts a day and also will be learning new things.
People who doesn't use any of these notification bots should try and activate one to promote quality and meaningful discussion in the forum.

Going back to your past discussion is necessary because there might be some clarifications you may need to make and some questions you might need to answer or ask. You can easily flow with the discussion and it will help you to write quality posts without stress. Notification bots can help you to access these posts easily and also make you posting more interesting. I totally stand with OP that installing this notification bot is important.  


To be honest, this notification bot is really helpful and has reduced the stress of searching and doing all that other manual checking stuff. I believe there are a lot of people who are still aware of the notification bot, and a few who are aware don't like making use of Telegram and, as such, won't want to create one because of that.

The social media is not a friendly place to visit. It is very easy to stay out of range from scammers and hackers if you stay clear from social media. But is has become a necessity that cannot be put aside.

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June 19, 2023, 09:15:45 PM
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They write some exact number of posts for a signature campaign, usually many of them answer only the first post in the topic or even just its title. If they'll start using notifier they'll won't answer anyway. Especially those ones who have a bunch of accounts. They are not really interested anyhow in what they talk about.

True, when you read carefully you will understand that some persons aren't really interested in what they talk. A close check will reveal that some even contradict themselves at the course of discussion.

The Original Post is very important. The first thing to do when you open a post is to read the first post of the Original Poster because it is the independent variable that controls the comments which now becomes the dependent variable. You cannot understand the thread without reading the first post.   

Did the OP say he doesn't read Original Post before diving into discussion?

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June 19, 2023, 10:11:13 PM
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How do people that doesn't use quotes or mentions notification bots browse this forum?
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I like to use Ninjastic.space. All I do is enter my username in the search box, and voila! I can easily view all the posts where someone has mentioned me. I mean, the notification bot might be great too, but I am already accustomed to my own method.

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June 19, 2023, 10:24:27 PM
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It's sometimes hurting when you quote or mention someone with the mind to further engage in conversation with the person, but the fellow might never return again to the thread. Could it be these set of users that Royse777 and Hhampuz complain that they use the forum in a wrong way or they post for weekly pay.
OP, could you elaborate on the second part of the above statement (about the complaining thing)?  And I have to admit I'm guilty as hell of not following up on posts I've made and who might have replied to them--but I've had that habit since I registered, I guess.  Unless it's a very hot drama thread, I usually just share my opinion or whatever and don't expect anyone to really engage me in a conversation.  Sometimes I stumble across a reply to a post I'd made months prior, when it's too late to respond for fear of necrobumping, and it makes me slap my head.

I'm not looking to increase my post count as you mentioned a notification bot could help in doing, but I think I might just look into it for shits & giggles.  I've been seeing mentions of said bots for a long time now, and for whatever reason I can't break the habit of being closed-minded about tech stuff I've never used.  Sounds like a bot would be useful to me, even after all these years on the forum doing things the hard way.

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How do people that doesn't use quotes or mentions notification bots browse this forum? I mean, it is wrong and does not promote healthy discussion. I am a user who is always not excited by whatever is in the opening topic (OP).
When you reply in a topic or you add it to your watch list, you will see that topic appears at top of the list "Show new replies to your posts"  (on top).

I know it is not a perfect notification but it is usable.

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Could it be these set of users that Royse777 and Hhampuz complain that they use the forum in a wrong way or they post for weekly pay.
If it is your job, following that topic is not time wasting or at least you can follow post history of the manager or you can do both. Managers usually don't make too many posts so it is not difficult to follow their post histories and get updates about campaigns.

Forum notifications and emails. Customize those options.
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✓ Automatically watch topics after replying to them. (You can add all of your posted-in topics to your watchlist.)
✓ Receive forum announcements and important notifications by email.
✓ Receive reply notification only for the first unread reply.
✓ Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic.
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June 20, 2023, 09:19:14 AM
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I know of others but I'm not sure they are still maintained till date. If you have recommendations for this service, you can drop and I will gladly add to Op.

I ever saw the Bitcointalk Notification Bot. But I really aware of using 3rd party in my app (telegram bot). So would you share your experience by using this kind of notication? is it really safe? Because I ever saw an article about Warning using Bots on Telegram.

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I didn't use any notifier for years and netheless I looked through the topics I posted anything for at least several days in case someone will answer me. If I didn't answer then it was only when I thought that my answer will be unnecessary. So if it was not @me in the topic I didn't write anything in I saw that someone answered me.

As for those who don't answer. I see many who never answers. It is not a mean of not knowing about that they have an answer, they just don't want. They write some exact number of posts for a signature campaign, usually many of them answer only the first post in the topic or even just its title. If they'll start using notifier they'll won't answer anyway. Especially those ones who have a bunch of accounts. They are not really interested anyhow in what they talk about.

I noticed that there are users on the forum who do not respond to comments or questions on their posts. But I thought that they simply do not see them, because they do not have access to notifications about replies to their posts. It seems to me that telegram bots help a lot to keep abreast of events and not miss replies to your posts, thus supporting the discussion. For example, I use @BTTSuperNotifier_bot. There you can see not only the answers to your posts, but also the appearance of new topics in the threads you are interested in, as well as the received merits.

But I didn't think such users weren't answering because they weren't interested or because they didn't think it was necessary. Although now I understand that this is a fairly plausible reason. But if they're doing it just to get the required number of campaign posts, does that count quality posts by a good manager? It seems to me that if they do this on an ongoing basis, they will either be excluded from good signature campaigns, or they will only be taken in bounties, where the requirements for posts are much lower, but the payment is accordingly suspicious.

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I noticed that there are users on the forum who do not respond to comments or questions on their posts. But I thought that they simply do not see them, because they do not have access to notifications about replies to their posts. It seems to me that telegram bots help a lot to keep abreast of events and not miss replies to your posts, thus supporting the discussion. For example, I use @BTTSuperNotifier_bot. There you can see not only the answers to your posts, but also the appearance of new topics in the threads you are interested in, as well as the received merits.

But I didn't think such users weren't answering because they weren't interested or because they didn't think it was necessary. Although now I understand that this is a fairly plausible reason. But if they're doing it just to get the required number of campaign posts, does that count quality posts by a good manager? It seems to me that if they do this on an ongoing basis, they will either be excluded from good signature campaigns, or they will only be taken in bounties, where the requirements for posts are much lower, but the payment is accordingly suspicious.

There can be different reasons. Sometimes someone can see no need in answering, someone can ignore someone else's messages, someone just don't want to answer in some exact case, — no one is obliged to answer.

But there are many who never or nearly never answer, this is not occasional. If you are interested in some topic you anyway follow it, so you'll see someone answers you. Maybe not using a notifier you'll miss some answers but not most of answers.

Those ones who use multiple alt accounts usually don't care. They change campaigns they participate easily, they don't care if one of their accounts is excluded from participating, they will make several new. They are not interested in what they are talking about. They don't use notifiers because they don't care if they are answered or mentioned anywhere. I'd say that OP is not the only one who is a bit annoyed when there are users who post a lot but don't ever take part in discussions. Grin

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Those ones who use multiple alt accounts usually don't care. They change campaigns they participate easily, they don't care if one of their accounts is excluded from participating, they will make several new. They are not interested in what they are talking about. They don't use notifiers because they don't care if they are answered or mentioned anywhere. I'd say that OP is not the only one who is a bit annoyed when there are users who post a lot but don't ever take part in discussions. Grin

I think another reason why they do not participate in discussions is that they usually do not read previous posts and do not delve into the essence of the topic, so their posts fall out of the general narrative, and few people want to write comments on their posts or mention them. This is really annoying and confusing. And this is also another problem associated with alt accounts.

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It's sometimes hurting when you quote or mention someone with the mind to further engage in conversation with the person, but the fellow might never return again to the thread. Could it be these set of users that Royse777 and Hhampuz complain that they use the forum in a wrong way or they post for weekly pay.
OP, could you elaborate on the second part of the above statement (about the complaining thing)?

I meant that some members of this forum doesn't use the forum in a better way that promotes healthy discussion. They will login their accounts, punch in some posts and offline without regards to other activities happening in the forum. They do not also join conversations, at most they will reply the OP directly and that's it.
Some of the campaign managers who read these posts weekly frown at that pattern of posting which I also emphasised in OP.

Hhampuz  hinted on this when he made changes in the Roobet campaign
I've made some notable changes to the roster of this campaign. A total of 6 members were removed for various reasons such as activity, posting habits and overall posting quality. If you were removed - don't feel too bad! I just don't want users to join a relaxed campaign like this one and then punch in week in and week out making 15 posts without adding any substance or holding any real conversations with other users. You may disagree and tell me that you shouldn't fall into that category but I've been looking at weeks and weeks of your posting history and it's more or less the same.

Royse777 likes it when users engage in conversations in different boards rather than dropping random unconnected posts to complete the campaign requirements [/color]
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Little Mouse lamented about this in Flush campaign where some users were making the exact posts according to the campaign rules. It is just like after hitting the 25 posts requirements for sinbad campaign, you will no longer respond to conversations or use the forum till the next week you start afresh and make exact 25 posts again
One more: If you are posting only the minimum to follow the campaign rules, I will be hard on the rules. But if you are using the forum as usual, you will have more flexible rules in the campaign. I will even make exceptional rules for you.

I had to do some search to get these posts from the managers. I believe you must have understood my points. It is not actually easy to make some connected sentences for understanding of others let alone for their reading pleasure.

I've been seeing mentions of said bots for a long time now, and for whatever reason I can't break the habit of being closed-minded about tech stuff I've never used.  Sounds like a bot would be useful to me, even after all these years on the forum doing things the hard way.
It will definitely be useful but you already mentioned that you don't use telegram. Unless you will set up one only for this purpose. It's really hectic using this forum without mention bots. You will definitely miss out some conversations or mentions.

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June 20, 2023, 11:56:18 AM
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How do people that doesn't use quotes or mentions notification bots browse this forum? I mean, it is wrong and does not promote healthy discussion. I am a user who is always not excited by whatever is in the opening topic (OP). I rather go through the flowing conversation to see who holds opposite opinion with me, then I will go in for some kind of debate in order to come out of the conversation more informed.

As you can see that everyone has different opinions from each other to what they want just as you've stated yours, since it's not part of the forum's rules, people are free to make use of this kind of opportunity which i count as not being an abuse, some user will only visit a thread and drop their one time opinion and that's all while some will always follow up the thread to keep on with the discussion through the notification, i hope you agree with me that not every thread you need to follow up time to time especially when it's not such you created or have more interest on the discussion after giving your first opinion on it.

Although this has its backlash, some merits sources will not hand out merits to you if you challenge their opinions

One thing i like more about this forum is that they merit sources always do justice where and when needed as appropriately, I've seen high ranks members, merit source, making replies on a thread and they dont receive merits and a low rank member receiving merits by another merit source on that same thread, this is all about quality delivery and how you feel touched by what any user posted irrespective of his rank or position.

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June 20, 2023, 05:04:41 PM
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I don't remember there is any bots which notifies mentions or someone quoting your post when I registered here and not the merit system either for a while. So I remember going through all the pages to see how the discussion is going and it was good old days though. Then multiple bots came which made the life easier still it's easier to find out someone who simply post for meeting their weekly quota or engaging in actual discussions.

I am one who didn't try to chase merit and lick someone to get the thing, I am just trying to be me and you know I haven't met that high ranks like other members, no offence about anyone with due respect just talking about myself.

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June 21, 2023, 01:13:06 AM
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I haven't tried it or I don't have any idea about the notification you mentioned, apart from what you said, as far as I know, we all here in the forum have the freedom to give our own opinions, even if it is contrary to what we say. in our interaction, in my opinion, that's okay as long as it's properly delivered to the other person here on the forum.

Actually, interacting in this way can even lead to a healthy discussion on the topic made by the author, right? And others can also give good tips in addition to our idea and knowledge.



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I know of others but I'm not sure they are still maintained till date. If you have recommendations for this service, you can drop and I will gladly add to Op.

Well, I have a notification bot, but even so, it continued to use a lot of the fantastic tool that the forum itself has:
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Whenever I enter the forum, and before searching for new topics, I look at all the topics where I've already replied and have new responses. Then I answer the ones I have to answer.


Now, I agree that sometimes we wait for feedback or response from some users, and it seems like they just disappeared. I don't know if this is a widespread problem or not. But I feel it sometimes, no doubt.

Personally, I always try to respond and continue the conversations, when this is relevant.

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How do people that doesn't use quotes or mentions notification bots browse this forum? I mean, it is wrong and does not promote healthy discussion. I am a user who is always not excited by whatever is in the opening topic (OP). I rather go through the flowing conversation to see who holds opposite opinion with me, then I will go in for some kind of debate in order to come out of the conversation more informed. Although this has its backlash, some merits sources will not hand out merits to you if you challenge their opinions, that is why some users prefer to lick the ass of others maybe to be in their good book for merits.Pardon me for a slight off topic

It's sometimes hurting when you quote or mention someone with the mind to further engage in conversation with the person, but the fellow might never return again to the thread. Could it be these set of users that Royse777 and Hhampuz complain that they use the forum in a wrong way or they post for weekly pay.

If you use notification bots, it will not be difficult to complete and exceed your weekly post quota. There will also not be a slight room for AI usage. If you engage in meaningful conversation in upto three threads, it is possible you can make even more than 10 posts a day and also will be learning new things.
People who doesn't use any of these notification bots should try and activate one to promote quality and meaningful discussion in the forum.

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I use a notification bot, but that doesn't mean that everytime someone says my name I feel like I need to come post on the forum. I tend to only reply if someone else hasn't already answered the person for me. That seems to be a normal thing around here, lots scramble to get their weekly quota. I could get by without the bot as I'm not in as much of a hurry as I feel some other users are.

Seems like there are lots looking for an edge. They're in too much of a hurry for whatever reason. You can browse the forum and see the threads you have replied in pretty easily. You can also go to your post history and see where you have replied and go read replies after your post. Bots are convenient for sure, but a person can get by without it.

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I don't have active notifications on my mobile, from any App. I understand that many people have notifications activated on the forum as a useful tool, but in my case I prefer to do as I do with my mobile, and what I do is go back to the posts where I have written to see what has been said, although this means that from time to time I miss what someone has said quoting me, but I prefer it like that. And I can assure you that if the conversation is interesting enough I don't miss any answers.
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June 21, 2023, 03:45:54 PM
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The way the details are listed indicates someone begging for merits who trying to get more Merits to join signature campaigns. Smiley Smiley Smiley
In the future, I hope that you will try to tell your thoughts differently, because they appear in the form of unintended hints, such as:

it will not be difficult to complete and exceed your weekly post quota. There will also not be a slight room for AI usage.
it is possible you can make even more than 10 posts a day and also will be learning new things.
Could it be these set of users that Royse777 and Hhampuz complain that they use the forum in a wrong way or they post for weekly pay.
Although this has its backlash, some merits sources will not hand out merits to you if you challenge their opinions, that is why some users prefer to lick the ass of others maybe to be in their good book for merits.Pardon me for a slight off topic
In general, I have not activated a bot before, however, if you are interested in a discussion, it will definitely follow all the responses received without the need for a notification bot. In fact, forum conversations have gone on for years without these bots.

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