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September 17, 2023, 12:41:50 AM
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I'm not sure if my understanding is correct; maybe the reason the betting agent allowed the gambler is because, apart from being a regular customer, the betting agent probably also knows where the gambler works. Or maybe he has confidence in the gambler that he will pay him back, or maybe it's not the first time the gambler has borrowed from them. And the betting agent also knows where he lives. Because he probably won't lend it if he has no idea where he lives or what his source of income or job is.
I think the issue many have with this is that a casino should have no business lending money to their clients, in most countries you need a license in order to provide that service and I doubt most casinos have that license.

So while there is little doubt the gambler is responsible for asking for a loan and gamble with money they cannot afford to lose, it is not as if the casino is blameless, as they are taking advantage from a person that obviously has problems by performing an illegal act themselves.

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September 17, 2023, 01:01:58 AM
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I'm not sure if my understanding is correct; maybe the reason the betting agent allowed the gambler is because, apart from being a regular customer, the betting agent probably also knows where the gambler works. Or maybe he has confidence in the gambler that he will pay him back, or maybe it's not the first time the gambler has borrowed from them. And the betting agent also knows where he lives. Because he probably won't lend it if he has no idea where he lives or what his source of income or job is.
Well the bad thing about this is that the agent cannot go beyond the things of the rules that exist in a company, because a casino is considered a company, at least that's how I see it and in fact it is like that, we as good Players know that when we are in a casino, the worst thing we can do is lend money to gamble, that is a bad move, because when a person runs out of money in a casino, but it is already something very irresponsible, because being in a casino, you can't put all the money you have in your pocket, you have to leave it, because you are entering a place where the disadvantage of the house is evident, where you cannot let yourself be carried away by impulses, and where it is obviously the safest thing to do. It is losing, if you play in a neighborhood and lost money, already with a considerable amount, it is not responsible to spend everything you have, worse still, when this is seen as having a type of consideration when a loan will be made, it is the player's fault. irresponsible, and now after something like this is done and the sales agent in the casino, or the person in charge of keeping an eye on the games in the casino, knows that to obtain loans to a particular person it must be under authorization from someone That he is above him is he gives loans like that, well it is not right, and he would be going above an authority, so I would say that the fault lies with the calcino agent rather than the player, because if an addicted player enters Once they will also give you a loan and that doesn't work, because things don't work out that way, an easy job is going away if they act like that.

A person who is approved for a sale or a loan within the casino must be authorized by the person belonging to it, and I believe that before that a lot of papers must be signed where in reality they leave even collateral in case the person cannot pay, In this sense things can be much more difficult for others and then no type of employee can make decisions like that.

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September 17, 2023, 03:30:12 AM
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I'm not sure if my understanding is correct; maybe the reason the betting agent allowed the gambler is because, apart from being a regular customer, the betting agent probably also knows where the gambler works. Or maybe he has confidence in the gambler that he will pay him back, or maybe it's not the first time the gambler has borrowed from them. And the betting agent also knows where he lives. Because he probably won't lend it if he has no idea where he lives or what his source of income or job is.
I think the issue many have with this is that a casino should have no business lending money to their clients, in most countries you need a license in order to provide that service and I doubt most casinos have that license.

So while there is little doubt the gambler is responsible for asking for a loan and gamble with money they cannot afford to lose, it is not as if the casino is blameless, as they are taking advantage from a person that obviously has problems by performing an illegal act themselves.

There are times that if the customer is already regular like if the owner keeps seeing that gambler betting big or betting money on a regular basis they will just become friends  which will be the other reason why they were provided money. They will say it is a loan but without paper it would just be borrowed money unless there are papers and requirements needed before taking out a loan which I noticed there are none in casinos which is still not illegal but doing this is inhumane for me because you should be helping people to prevent addiction but you are kind of putting more gas in the fire.

Business will be business which is why they will allow the gambler to borrow money as they gain profit on it and at the same time it will be returned to them when the gambler loses unless the owner is really taking care of their gambler they will preventing them from getting addicted by not allowing a loan.
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September 17, 2023, 08:00:05 AM
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There are times that if the customer is already regular like if the owner keeps seeing that gambler betting big or betting money on a regular basis they will just become friends  which will be the other reason why they were provided money. They will say it is a loan but without paper it would just be borrowed money unless there are papers and requirements needed before taking out a loan which I noticed there are none in casinos which is still not illegal but doing this is inhumane for me because you should be helping people to prevent addiction but you are kind of putting more gas in the fire.

Business will be business which is why they will allow the gambler to borrow money as they gain profit on it and at the same time it will be returned to them when the gambler loses unless the owner is really taking care of their gambler they will preventing them from getting addicted by not allowing a loan.

Sometimes paperwork is unnecessary, especially when borrowing money from loan sharks. This is because your life serves as collateral, and you already know the consequences if you fail to repay. Lending from loan sharks operates differently from traditional banks, where legal documents and tangible collateral are required to safeguard against potential losses.

That's why, in my case, if I needed to borrow money for gambling, I would avoid loan sharks. Apart from the exorbitant interest rates, the stakes involve risking your life if you fail to meet your repayment obligations.

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September 23, 2023, 01:08:02 AM
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There are times that if the customer is already regular like if the owner keeps seeing that gambler betting big or betting money on a regular basis they will just become friends  which will be the other reason why they were provided money. They will say it is a loan but without paper it would just be borrowed money unless there are papers and requirements needed before taking out a loan which I noticed there are none in casinos which is still not illegal but doing this is inhumane for me because you should be helping people to prevent addiction but you are kind of putting more gas in the fire.

Business will be business which is why they will allow the gambler to borrow money as they gain profit on it and at the same time it will be returned to them when the gambler loses unless the owner is really taking care of their gambler they will preventing them from getting addicted by not allowing a loan.

Sometimes paperwork is unnecessary, especially when borrowing money from loan sharks. This is because your life serves as collateral, and you already know the consequences if you fail to repay. Lending from loan sharks operates differently from traditional banks, where legal documents and tangible collateral are required to safeguard against potential losses.

That's why, in my case, if I needed to borrow money for gambling, I would avoid loan sharks. Apart from the exorbitant interest rates, the stakes involve risking your life if you fail to meet your repayment obligations.
Loan sharks should be avoided at all costs no matter how the difficult circumstances you are in, I have heard from some people about their experiences and the interests rates are crazy as they are compounded daily, so if you had any money issues before then those will only become way worse by asking a loan to them.

And while asking for such a loan for a medical emergency is bad enough, doing so just so a person can gamble is in my opinion a life-changing mistake.

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