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June 20, 2023, 10:59:10 AM
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?

Hello, Bitcointalk community!

Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?

The idea is simple: instead of selling my house for traditional cash, I am interested in receiving bitcoins as payment. After all, cryptocurrencies have been gaining prominence in the financial world, and many believe that their value will only increase. Could this be the perfect opportunity to diversify my portfolio and benefit from the growth potential of digital currencies?

However, when considering this innovative approach, it is also important to evaluate the risks involved. After all, we are talking about a P2P transaction, without the presence of traditional intermediaries such as real estate brokers and lawyers. This means that trust between the parties is essential to ensure a successful negotiation.

Another point to consider is the volatility of the cryptocurrency market. The value of bitcoin can fluctuate significantly over short periods of time, which can affect the value of the property involved in the transaction. This volatility can bring additional uncertainty and challenges for both parties involved.

I want to open up space for discussion and exchange of ideas. What do you think about this proposal to exchange a house for bitcoins? Do you see significant opportunities or risks? What precautions do you suggest to minimize possible problems? Please share your opinions and experiences, as it is through dialogue that we can explore all perspectives of this approach.

Let's debate and find out whether this is a revolutionary idea or just a risky venture. I look forward to hearing your opinions!

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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins.

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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?

Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?
Don't!

You must practice many times to understand Bitcoin, Bitcoin wallets, backups, recoveries, making transactions. It's common to make mistakes when you are doing something a first or second time. Don't let your very first mistakes to make you lose all your bitcoin and you become a homeless person.

Buy your first bitcoin, practice to store it in your non custodial wallet. Practice your wallet backup, wallet recovery. Do your first transactions even it is sending from one address to another address of yourself or sending from one wallet to another wallet of yourself.

When you practice to understand it well, you can invest more but just DON'T sell all your house to invest.

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June 20, 2023, 12:04:05 PM
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?

Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?
Don't!

You must practice many times to understand Bitcoin, Bitcoin wallets, backups, recoveries, making transactions. It's common to make mistakes when you are doing something a first or second time. Don't let your very first mistakes to make you lose all your bitcoin and you become a homeless person.

Buy your first bitcoin, practice to store it in your non custodial wallet. Practice your wallet backup, wallet recovery. Do your first transactions even it is sending from one address to another address of yourself or sending from one wallet to another wallet of yourself.

When you practice to understand it well, you can invest more but just DON'T sell all your house to invest.

I understand your concerns and we agree that it is important to practice and understand Bitcoin well before making large transactions. In this regard, we would like to further challenge your perspective and encourage an in-depth discussion.

Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, stated that he was working on a new peer-to-peer electronic money system. Bitcoin is designed to allow direct transactions between parties, without the need for intermediaries such as banks. This decentralized system is based on a technology called blockchain, which ensures the security and immutability of transactions.

In addition, digital contracts also play an important role in the Bitcoin ecosystem. These contracts are digital records that automatically execute pre-programmed terms and conditions. They can be used to prove the authenticity and integrity of documents, eliminating the need to rely on third parties.

Based on these statements, we would like to pose a questionnaire to stimulate discussion:

What are the benefits of a peer-to-peer electronic cash system compared to traditional banking?

How can digital contracts improve the efficiency and security of transactions?

What are the challenges and concerns regarding the large-scale adoption of Bitcoin and digital contracts?

What measures can be implemented to mitigate the risks associated with the use of Bitcoin and digital contracts?

I look forward to hearing your views and community perspectives on these questions. Let's continue exploring Bitcoin's revolutionary potential together.
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June 20, 2023, 12:04:21 PM
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I believe to had came across such post at the bitcoin discussion
And this post belong to Bitcoin discussion and not altcoin.

I don't really know your understanding about Bitcoin but i must tell you the truth this is a deadly risk you are about to take, but how?
If I may ask, what is the condition of your house you want to trade for bitcoin, is that house and property worths selling to receive Bitcoin as payment? Images are welcomed

There some properties you may wants to sell in other for you to gain bitcoin but would end up not even getting a whole bitcoin or 2 to 10BTC, which i think those build are not worth trading to earn bitcoin. There are people with different believe on how they see bitcoin, if you are that convinced to venture into that journey then no need to be afraid or even seeking idea from people here because I know too well that when the lost come, no one here would replaced it for you or would even share and bear the same bothern with you. You have to think wisely before taking that decision to trade your building for bitcoin.

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Well you can learn for the experience of this person,  Bitcoin Family say they lost $1 million on their investment this year, but sold a lot at peak.

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The “Bitcoin Family” is down more than $1 million on their bitcoin investment since the world’s most popular digital coin peaked at around $69,000 in Nov. 2021 — but patriarch Didi Taihuttu is as bullish as ever.

Taihuttu is buying back the coin daily, as he thinks it’s bottoming out.

In 2017, Taihuttu, his wife, and three daughters liquidated all they owned, trading a 2,500-square-foot house and virtually all their earthly possessions for bitcoin and a life on the road. This was back when the price of bitcoin was around $900. Bitcoin is currently trading around $19,700.

So it means there are really risk involved if you do the crazy idea of trading your house for some Bitcoins.

Which also equate that you can either win or lose, very we all know that bitcoin is so volatile, we have the bear and then bull market.

But in any case you decided to do so, then best of luck to you!!!

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I believe to had came across such post at the bitcoin discussion
And this post belong to Bitcoin discussion and not altcoin.

I don't really know your understanding about Bitcoin but i must tell you the truth this is a deadly risk you are about to take, but how?
If I may ask, what is the condition of your house you want to trade for bitcoin, is that house and property worths selling to receive Bitcoin as payment? Images are welcomed

There some properties you may wants to sell in other for you to gain bitcoin but would end up not even getting a whole bitcoin or 2 to 10BTC, which i think those build are not worth trading to earn bitcoin. There are people with different believe on how they see bitcoin, if you are that convinced to venture into that journey then no need to be afraid or even seeking idea from people here because I know too well that when the lost come, no one here would replaced it for you or would even share and bear the same bothern with you. You have to think wisely before taking that decision to trade your building for bitcoin.

let's say I have a solution for an eco system and altcoins but I want to raise the level of this conversation
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June 20, 2023, 12:18:21 PM
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It is not wise to make a major decision like selling one's house for Bitcoin. It doesn't seem like a wise decision to me. I can't even consider taking such a step because I don't want to risk my home, as you know very well that it carries a lot of risks. If the value of BTC goes down, we won't be able to do anything about it. I do understand that holding Bitcoin in the long term will be beneficial for making good profits but my advice would be to use the extra funds you have to buy Bitcoin instead of selling your house for it.

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June 20, 2023, 12:23:51 PM
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I want to open up space for discussion and exchange of ideas. What do you think about this proposal to exchange a house for bitcoins? Do you see significant opportunities or risks? What precautions do you suggest to minimize possible problems? Please share your opinions and experiences, as it is through dialogue that we can explore all perspectives of this approach.

We are talking huge money here while crypto price moves up or down more than 5% in daily basis. This figure is significant if you are doing house flipping with a low profit margin. The price volatility might ruin your sales value in a blink of an eye. You are already doing some profit on house selling, why do you need to get an extra risk on using volatile assets while you will just cash out the sales again to fiat.?

I think only money dedicated for investment on Bitcoin is the best to use on crypto investment and not sales from your properties which is your business.

Would there be any altcoins with an ecosystem or some intermediary that makes the documents with digital signatures that can guarantee for both parties?

You can use Zen.land dapps. It's a smart contract escrow which allow both party to transfer documents and payment with smart contract as an escrow for documents and funds.

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June 20, 2023, 12:24:38 PM
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Well you can learn for the experience of this person,  m/2022/07/02/bitcoin-family-say-they-lost-1-million-in-value-this-year.html#:~:text=In%202017%2C%20Taihuttu%2C%20his%20wife,of%20bitcoin%20was%20around%20%24900.]Bitcoin Family say they lost $1 million on their investment this year, but sold a lot at peak.

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The “Bitcoin Family” is down more than $1 million on their bitcoin investment since the world’s most popular digital coin peaked at around $69,000 in Nov. 2021 — but patriarch Didi Taihuttu is as bullish as ever.

Taihuttu is buying back the coin daily, as he thinks it’s bottoming out.

In 2017, Taihuttu, his wife, and three daughters liquidated all they owned, trading a 2,500-square-foot house and virtually all their earthly possessions for bitcoin and a life on the road. This was back when the price of bitcoin was around $900. Bitcoin is currently trading around $19,700.

So it means there are really risk involved if you do the crazy idea of trading your house for some Bitcoins.

Which also equate that you can either win or lose, very we all know that bitcoin is so volatile, we have the bear and then bull market.

But in any case you decided to do so, then best of luck to you!!!

You are right! Trading your house for Bitcoins is a bold idea and there are indeed risks involved. But, as they say, great rewards come with great risks. Bitcoin is known for its volatility, experiencing up and down markets, which means you can either win or lose.

If I decided to go ahead with this crazy idea. After all, sometimes you have to take risks to achieve great things. Bitcoin has revolutionary potential and can bring incredible opportunities to those who are willing to venture out.

Remember that knowledge is power.

At the end of the day, we believe in financial freedom and the pursuit of innovative opportunities.
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June 20, 2023, 12:32:40 PM
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I want to open up space for discussion and exchange of ideas. What do you think about this proposal to exchange a house for bitcoins? Do you see significant opportunities or risks? What precautions do you suggest to minimize possible problems? Please share your opinions and experiences, as it is through dialogue that we can explore all perspectives of this approach.

We are talking huge money here while crypto price moves up or down more than 5% in daily basis. This figure is significant if you are doing house flipping with a low profit margin. The price volatility might ruin your sales value in a blink of an eye. You are already doing some profit on house selling, why do you need to get an extra risk on using volatile assets while you will just cash out the sales again to fiat.?

I think only money dedicated for investment on Bitcoin is the best to use on crypto investment and not sales from your properties which is your business.

Would there be any altcoins with an ecosystem or some intermediary that makes the documents with digital signatures that can guarantee for both parties?

You can use Zen.land dapps. It's a smart contract escrow which allow both party to transfer documents and payment with smart contract as an escrow for documents and funds.

It is understandable that I am worried about trading my house for Bitcoins, considering the volatility and profit potential of the crypto market. However, it is important to remember that significant financial decisions require thorough analysis and careful evaluation of the risks and benefits involved.

In cases like this, it is essential to consider the alternatives available, such as diversifying investments into different assets, including cryptocurrencies and altcoins. By doing so, you can mitigate the risks associated with volatility and the real estate market, while taking advantage of the potential opportunities offered by cryptocurrencies.

It is always advisable to seek guidance from experienced financial and legal professionals before making major decisions involving large assets such as real estate and cryptocurrencies.

More like I said let's say I have a solution and I need to build the difficulties and answer the community questionnaire so then I can present my Altcoins proposal to be able to show the solution.
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June 20, 2023, 12:42:18 PM
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?


Are you new to the Bitcoin industry? Do you have a deep understanding of Bitcoin? Do you know the risk you can face with Bitcoin when you become its holder? If your answer is that you have no idea about Bitcoin, it is advisable not to do it, and even if you have a deep understanding of Bitcoin, you should not do it.

It would be okay if you have another house of your own that is better than the one you will sell using bitcoin as payment for the house that you want to sell to anyone who is interested.



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June 20, 2023, 12:48:01 PM
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?

Hello, Bitcointalk community!

Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?

The idea is simple: instead of selling my house for traditional cash, I am interested in receiving bitcoins as payment. After all, cryptocurrencies have been gaining prominence in the financial world, and many believe that their value will only increase. Could this be the perfect opportunity to diversify my portfolio and benefit from the growth potential of digital currencies?

However, when considering this innovative approach, it is also important to evaluate the risks involved. After all, we are talking about a P2P transaction, without the presence of traditional intermediaries such as real estate brokers and lawyers. This means that trust between the parties is essential to ensure a successful negotiation.

Another point to consider is the volatility of the cryptocurrency market. The value of bitcoin can fluctuate significantly over short periods of time, which can affect the value of the property involved in the transaction. This volatility can bring additional uncertainty and challenges for both parties involved.

I want to open up space for discussion and exchange of ideas. What do you think about this proposal to exchange a house for bitcoins? Do you see significant opportunities or risks? What precautions do you suggest to minimize possible problems? Please share your opinions and experiences, as it is through dialogue that we can explore all perspectives of this approach.

Let's debate and find out whether this is a revolutionary idea or just a risky venture. I look forward to hearing your opinions!

Would there be any altcoins with an ecosystem or some intermediary that makes the documents with digital signatures that can guarantee for both parties?

I would say unnecessary risk if you intend to sell your house for any crypto and not just Bitcoin,the house hold insane value nowadays where half the population lives on rent having an extra bill to pay every month,as long as you have your home where you live in it is stupid to sell or exchange it for Bitcoin or crypto in general.

Even if it is not the home that you live in and it is a second home to you the best would be to give it for rent and the rent money to exchange for Bitcoin or any crypto you like in general,this is the best path and route to have some solid cryptos in your portfolio.

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June 20, 2023, 12:57:02 PM
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Buy AMZ instead, Amazon just announced this
https://cointelegraphfeed.com/?06-19-amazon-creating-token-june-23
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?

Hello, Bitcointalk community!

Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?

The idea is simple: instead of selling my house for traditional cash, I am interested in receiving bitcoins as payment. After all, cryptocurrencies have been gaining prominence in the financial world, and many believe that their value will only increase. Could this be the perfect opportunity to diversify my portfolio and benefit from the growth potential of digital currencies?

However, when considering this innovative approach, it is also important to evaluate the risks involved. After all, we are talking about a P2P transaction, without the presence of traditional intermediaries such as real estate brokers and lawyers. This means that trust between the parties is essential to ensure a successful negotiation.

Another point to consider is the volatility of the cryptocurrency market. The value of bitcoin can fluctuate significantly over short periods of time, which can affect the value of the property involved in the transaction. This volatility can bring additional uncertainty and challenges for both parties involved.

I want to open up space for discussion and exchange of ideas. What do you think about this proposal to exchange a house for bitcoins? Do you see significant opportunities or risks? What precautions do you suggest to minimize possible problems? Please share your opinions and experiences, as it is through dialogue that we can explore all perspectives of this approach.

Let's debate and find out whether this is a revolutionary idea or just a risky venture. I look forward to hearing your opinions!

Would there be any altcoins with an ecosystem or some intermediary that makes the documents with digital signatures that can guarantee for both parties?

I would say unnecessary risk if you intend to sell your house for any crypto and not just Bitcoin,the house hold insane value nowadays where half the population lives on rent having an extra bill to pay every month,as long as you have your home where you live in it is stupid to sell or exchange it for Bitcoin or crypto in general.

Even if it is not the home that you live in and it is a second home to you the best would be to give it for rent and the rent money to exchange for Bitcoin or any crypto you like in general,this is the best path and route to have some solid cryptos in your portfolio.

I am talking about a real estate solution whether it is for sale or rent for a season, sorry this is not being direct and generating more questions.

But I want to stimulate all the problems with this community and show the solution of an eco system.
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Let's just say I have a more viable solution than this news, because it doesn't seem clear to me and it's not being open to discussion and a solution for an ecosystem like I'm doing.

What other problems can we address in a real estate sale many of you have talked about the volatility of a currency plus we can introduce a price api within a paltaform to track the appreciation and devaluation of a currency be it bitcoins or altcoins.
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I believe to had came across such post at the bitcoin discussion
And this post belong to Bitcoin discussion and not altcoin.

I don't really know your understanding about Bitcoin but i must tell you the truth this is a deadly risk you are about to take, but how?
If I may ask, what is the condition of your house you want to trade for bitcoin, is that house and property worths selling to receive Bitcoin as payment? Images are welcomed

There some properties you may wants to sell in other for you to gain bitcoin but would end up not even getting a whole bitcoin or 2 to 10BTC, which i think those build are not worth trading to earn bitcoin. There are people with different believe on how they see bitcoin, if you are that convinced to venture into that journey then no need to be afraid or even seeking idea from people here because I know too well that when the lost come, no one here would replaced it for you or would even share and bear the same bothern with you. You have to think wisely before taking that decision to trade your building for bitcoin.

let's say I have a solution for an eco system and altcoins but I want to raise the level of this conversation

Well as I have said earlier no need for this discussion because I know that from page 1 of this thread to page 10 would be same answer so for me is likely to be spamming. Just like to 1 to 5 pages are good enough to have the answer required.
Good luck and be very wise in whatever decision you have taken upon yourself.

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I think trade a house for bitcoin is bad idea bruh. The price of bitcoin can crash overnight lol, and we don't know if, at the time of the transaction, the price of BTC will drop to an unexpected level, which would be very detrimental to you. P2P transactions without intermediaries are 90% scams lol, sorry about that ya, but it's a fact. Another fact is that the lack of legal certainty and regulations for bitcoin transactions adds an additional risk for those who want to engage in P2P transactions. Moreover, not everyone knows about bitcoin; it's still limited, making it more challenging for us in the transaction process compared to traditional currencies.

There are too many issues, sad to said this, if we were to break them down one by one. Do you want me to mention them again? If disputes arise later on, resolving them becomes super difficult because, as I mentioned earlier, there is no legal certainty.

So, for me, at the moment, it seems that this transaction is not secure and very risky.
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I believe to had came across such post at the bitcoin discussion
And this post belong to Bitcoin discussion and not altcoin.

I don't really know your understanding about Bitcoin but i must tell you the truth this is a deadly risk you are about to take, but how?
If I may ask, what is the condition of your house you want to trade for bitcoin, is that house and property worths selling to receive Bitcoin as payment? Images are welcomed

There some properties you may wants to sell in other for you to gain bitcoin but would end up not even getting a whole bitcoin or 2 to 10BTC, which i think those build are not worth trading to earn bitcoin. There are people with different believe on how they see bitcoin, if you are that convinced to venture into that journey then no need to be afraid or even seeking idea from people here because I know too well that when the lost come, no one here would replaced it for you or would even share and bear the same bothern with you. You have to think wisely before taking that decision to trade your building for bitcoin.

let's say I have a solution for an eco system and altcoins but I want to raise the level of this conversation

Well as I have said earlier no need for this discussion because I know that from page 1 of this thread to page 10 would be same answer so for me is likely to be spamming. Just like to 1 to 5 pages are good enough to have the answer required.
Good luck and be very wise in whatever decision you have taken upon yourself.

I'm sorry to waste your time.

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I think trade a house for bitcoin is bad idea bruh. The price of bitcoin can crash overnight lol, and we don't know if, at the time of the transaction, the price of BTC will drop to an unexpected level, which would be very detrimental to you. P2P transactions without intermediaries are 90% scams lol, sorry about that ya, but it's a fact. Another fact is that the lack of legal certainty and regulations for bitcoin transactions adds an additional risk for those who want to engage in P2P transactions. Moreover, not everyone knows about bitcoin; it's still limited, making it more challenging for us in the transaction process compared to traditional currencies.

There are too many issues, sad to said this, if we were to break them down one by one. Do you want me to mention them again? If disputes arise later on, resolving them becomes super difficult because, as I mentioned earlier, there is no legal certainty.

So, for me, at the moment, it seems that this transaction is not secure and very risky.

We understand your concerns about exchanging a house for bitcoin. It is true that the volatility of the bitcoin price can pose a significant risk for such transactions. In addition, the lack of regulation and legal certainty in P2P transactions can increase concerns regarding the protection of the rights and interests of the parties involved.

However, it is important to note that advances are being made to address these issues. New solutions are emerging, such as the application of blockchain and smart contract technologies, which seek to provide greater security, transparency, and protection in P2P transactions.

While there are still challenges to overcome, it is necessary to consider the evolving landscape and the opportunities that may arise from these innovations. Collaboration between different sectors, including real estate and crypto, may lead to more secure and reliable approaches to real estate transactions in the future.

It is important to carefully assess the risks and seek expert advice when undertaking such transactions. Awareness and education on the topic are also essential to ensure that investors are well informed when making their decisions.

So while there are legitimate challenges and concerns, it is important to monitor the development of these solutions and assess their potential impact on the real estate market and P2P transactions.
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We may give you some suggestions but you've got the final decision to make, i can't advise someone sells a house all because he wants to invest on a volatile cryptocurrency, the option he's going for is not bad  because it's bitcoin but consider selling a house to me for bitcoin investment is like taking more risk that can landed him to shame especially when that's the only one he has and lives in, but if he has many others left, the. It's not a bad decision.
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