[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Super Middleweight (September 16)

[TopTort777]

WTF is this? So Canelo is going to fight a guy (at least he is not a total trash with spoiled record), that hasnt fought for two years, is not going to fight in his usual weight class, and the fight might be in Mexico again. And this guy isnt even a mandatory challenger. After that, what is that "my legacy" Canelo is talking about, when he is cherry picking his opponents like that. I am disappointed with Canelo. He is turning into Mayweather, he is gonna fight much weaker opponent or even have that clown exhibition fights just for the money...

[Russlenat]

The case of Jermall Charlo is really intriguing to say the least, he hasn't fought since 2021, and yet WBC hasn't stripped him of their championship. And there is a rumor floating around that says Charlo has been in some mental problems, it could be personal, that's why he hasn't fought for a long time.

And suddenly we heard that he is going back in fighting and then have Canelo as his comeback fight?

So very interesting pick of opponent from the Canelo side, for sure they know all the back story and it's obvious they are cherry picking Charlo for Canelo here.

WBC has favored Jermall Charlo to retain his belt even without having any title defense because the WBC champion had a serious head injury and other personal matters to solve, which made people to speculate that Charlo had a mental illness following his head injury.

Although none of that were confirmed, it will still remain as a mystery on why Charlo stayed inactive for almost two years.

And now that he is making his return, hopefully we can receive any answers during one of their few press conference or at least post-fight press conference.

[Natalim]

This is a good fight for Canelo as he seeks to face well-known boxers. Jermall Charlo, being a popular middleweight boxer, makes for an exciting opponent. While Canelo may not be considering moving up in weight, he consistently provides entertaining fights by not choosing lesser-known boxers.

Jermall Charlo currently maintains an undefeated record with 22 knockout wins in 32 fights, showcasing a strong track record. I believe he will present a tough challenge for Canelo.

@bisdak40, if there's a poll it would be better.

[coin-investor]

WBC has favored Jermall Charlo to retain his belt even without having any title defense because the WBC champion had a serious head injury and other personal matters to solve, which made people to speculate that Charlo had a mental illness following his head injury.

Although none of that were confirmed, it will still remain as a mystery on why Charlo stayed inactive for almost two years.

And now that he is making his return, hopefully we can receive any answers during one of their few press conference or at least post-fight press conference.

The biggest question right now and I'm sure will be asked in the press conference is why a fighter like Canelo is in his comeback fight, I know Jermall is good but even a great fighter will have a hard time dealing with ring rust, two years is enough to consider it like retirement, unless he is not stopping his training and does sparring at least 2 weeks in a month.

Jermall will have a good excuse if he loses by knockout and I will be surprised and praise him if he upsets Canelo, Canelo's speed and power is still there, even though his dominant win against Ryder is being questioned.

[yazher]

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

This will going to happen, and there's no doubt about that unless Charlo knocks him out. You see, there are lots of things to see whenever boxers like them will clash inside the ring, and one thing about this fight is their underestimation of Charlo; he needs to do everything in his training to surprise Canelo because it won't be like his last fights and this time he is expected to dominate him throughout the rounds in order to win the fight, but that's not possible in his current state. so, he needs to work hard to hone that unique skill to defeat Canelo.

[Sanitough]

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

This will going to happen, and there's no doubt about that unless Charlo knocks him out. You see, there are lots of things to see whenever boxers like them will clash inside the ring, and one thing about this fight is their underestimation of Charlo; he needs to do everything in his training to surprise Canelo because it won't be like his last fights and this time he is expected to dominate him throughout the rounds in order to win the fight, but that's not possible in his current state. so, he needs to work hard to hone that unique skill to defeat Canelo.

Canelo is not undefeated, so it's likely that Charlo's camp is already studying and experimenting to identify Canelo's weaknesses. However, it's important to note that it's easier said than done. While Canelo has experienced two losses in his career, it does suggest that defeating him is not impossible.

By the way, have the betting odds for this fight been released already?

[Kasabus]

WBC has favored Jermall Charlo to retain his belt even without having any title defense because the WBC champion had a serious head injury and other personal matters to solve, which made people to speculate that Charlo had a mental illness following his head injury.

Although none of that were confirmed, it will still remain as a mystery on why Charlo stayed inactive for almost two years.

And now that he is making his return, hopefully we can receive any answers during one of their few press conference or at least post-fight press conference.

The biggest question right now and I'm sure will be asked in the press conference is why a fighter like Canelo is in his comeback fight, I know Jermall is good but even a great fighter will have a hard time dealing with ring rust, two years is enough to consider it like retirement, unless he is not stopping his training and does sparring at least 2 weeks in a month.

Jermall will have a good excuse if he loses by knockout and I will be surprised and praise him if he upsets Canelo, Canelo's speed and power is still there, even though his dominant win against Ryder is being questioned.

He will have a good excuse if he will be defeated by Canelo but I don't think that he'll just sit quietly and wait for that to happen because it will be his first defeat, if ever. Besides, I cannot deny that it's hard to think that he will upset Canelo in his own comfortable division nor gamble against Canelo this time, and people are somehow saying the same thing too that.

But since Charlo agreed to fight Canelo in his return, I would like to think that there is a good plan behind this move because even this is a good paycheck for him after 2 years outside the ring, his record is also on the line. Anyway, still an exciting event so far.

[Yamifoud]

But since Charlo agreed to fight Canelo in his return, I would like to think that there is a good plan behind this move because even this is a good paycheck for him after 2 years outside the ring, his record is also on the line. Anyway, still an exciting event so far.

I am impressed with his decision. He doesn't seem to place too much importance on maintaining his undefeated record, especially considering the possibility of Canelo defeating him. This is a significant opportunity for Charlo, as fighting Canelo would undoubtedly generate substantial pay-per-view subscriptions and could be a defining moment in his career. While many may assume Canelo will easily win this fight given his dominance in the division, I prefer to entertain the possibility of a different outcome.

[Jawhead999]

Canelo is not undefeated, so it's likely that Charlo's camp is already studying and experimenting to identify Canelo's weaknesses. However, it's important to note that it's easier said than done. While Canelo has experienced two losses in his career, it does suggest that defeating him is not impossible.

By the way, have the betting odds for this fight been released already?

I doubt Charlo has a good chance to beat Canelo, Charlo only fought once in the last 2 years and he need to fight Canelo, one of biggest boxers in this era.

I checked several sportsbooks and I don't find they included this fight, but I'm pretty sure Canelo will be heavy favorite. I think this fight isn't final yet as the venue and judges are still not announced.

[aioc]

But since Charlo agreed to fight Canelo in his return, I would like to think that there is a good plan behind this move because even this is a good paycheck for him after 2 years outside the ring, his record is also on the line. Anyway, still an exciting event so far.

I am impressed with his decision. He doesn't seem to place too much importance on maintaining his undefeated record, especially considering the possibility of Canelo defeating him. This is a significant opportunity for Charlo, as fighting Canelo would undoubtedly generate substantial pay-per-view subscriptions and could be a defining moment in his career. While many may assume Canelo will easily win this fight given his dominance in the division, I prefer to entertain the possibility of a different outcome.

Well, he's been given a chance it's Canelo the undisputed and the most popular boxer now, he'll earn more than 3 or 5 of his last fights, so even if he is on two years lay off he'll take a crack, Jermall is still in his prime he is also a champion and he is one guy who goes for a legacy fight.
People think he has a slim chance but he is a fool to just turn back on this fight when every fighter wants Canelo
I voted for Canelo via knockout, but I could change my mind if Jermall can show something in the course of their conferences and face off.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

There's no odd yet if I'm not mistaken. But I do agree that Canelo will be a huge favorite again in this fight. Could be like the Ryder fight as per odds. But in any case, I don't see this fight as hype though, I mean Canelo could be still be the cash cow, but fighting a boxer who has been on almost retiring and very inactive for many years? what gives?

Why Canelo camp chooses Jermall Charlo when they can have Bivol or Benavidez? Is this just one of those cherry pick fight for Alvarez? Or this is going to be the norm for him as he is now on a decline?

Canelo was something like 1.04 to beat Ryder. The odds won’t be anywhere close to that for this fight with Charlo.

[Johnyz]

Canelo is not undefeated, so it's likely that Charlo's camp is already studying and experimenting to identify Canelo's weaknesses. However, it's important to note that it's easier said than done. While Canelo has experienced two losses in his career, it does suggest that defeating him is not impossible.

By the way, have the betting odds for this fight been released already?

I doubt Charlo has a good chance to beat Canelo, Charlo only fought once in the last 2 years and he need to fight Canelo, one of biggest boxers in this era.

I checked several sportsbooks and I don't find they included this fight, but I'm pretty sure Canelo will be heavy favorite. I think this fight isn't final yet as the venue and judges are still not announced.

This could be a big challenge for Carlo after being active for the past years, and fighting a big boxer on his return is not an easy one because Canelo are still fresh and hot from a big win on his previous fight. Canelo will be the favorite here and personally will look for a better odds to place a bet with him, this can still be an interesting match though.

[harizen]

The biggest question right now and I'm sure will be asked in the press conference is why a fighter like Canelo is in his comeback fight, I know Jermall is good but even a great fighter will have a hard time dealing with ring rust, two years is enough to consider it like retirement, unless he is not stopping his training and does sparring at least 2 weeks in a month.

As per the news, Canelo's fight against Charlo is part of the three-fight deal with Premier Boxing Champions:

- against Jermall Charlo
- against David Benavidez*
- against David Morrel Jr.*

After Charlo, Canelo is supposed to fight again in May and September 2024. For some analysts, Canelo might have been offered a big paycheck for accepting this deal as it's risky for the "cash cow" to just accept fights, and generally, the usually followed timeline for Canelo is at least 1 fight per year.

*still undetermined

[Dave1]

This is a good fight for Canelo as he seeks to face well-known boxers. Jermall Charlo, being a popular middleweight boxer, makes for an exciting opponent. While Canelo may not be considering moving up in weight, he consistently provides entertaining fights by not choosing lesser-known boxers.

Jermall Charlo currently maintains an undefeated record with 22 knockout wins in 32 fights, showcasing a strong track record. I believe he will present a tough challenge for Canelo.

@bisdak40, if there's a poll it would be better.

He is still a lesser known opponents in my opinion, so I disagree with you. You can go to social media and there are fans not approving this fight. I do hope that you understand that Charlo is a 168 lbs fighter? and he has been inactive for the last 2 years because of personal reasons?

Records could be deceiving as well yeah 22 knockouts, but he is going to add up additional 8 lbs just to make the weight. And as he is inactive, he might have gain more already and needed to lose that pounds again. So it will be a big issue for Charlo here.

[Yaunfitda]

The biggest question right now and I'm sure will be asked in the press conference is why a fighter like Canelo is in his comeback fight, I know Jermall is good but even a great fighter will have a hard time dealing with ring rust, two years is enough to consider it like retirement, unless he is not stopping his training and does sparring at least 2 weeks in a month.

As per the news, Canelo's fight against Charlo is part of the three-fight deal with Premier Boxing Champions:

- against Jermall Charlo
- against David Benavidez*
- against David Morrel Jr.*

After Charlo, Canelo is supposed to fight again in May and September 2024. For some analysts, Canelo might have been offered a big paycheck for accepting this deal as it's risky for the "cash cow" to just accept fights, and generally, the usually followed timeline for Canelo is at least 1 fight per year.

*still undetermined

I thought that Morrell is going to fight Benavidez next, but we haven't heard any news yet and if I'm not mistaken, I read that the fight is not going to happen. It could be a sort of eliminator as they are all looking to fight Canelo.

Nevertheless, if this is the 3 fight deal then only David Benavidez is a good fight for Canelo in my opinion. As you can see in the comments here, fighting Charlo who is inactive, and then Morrell who might be good in paper, but the fight might not be a good one for Canelo's legacy. So it's either Bivol or David Benavidez could really cemented Canelo as the one of the best in this generation.

[FinneysTrueVision]

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Date: September 16
Venue: TBD

So, it's officially announced earlier that Jermall Charlo will move up in weight to challenge Canelo Alvarez which i think is the best fight for Canelo this year as a rematch with Bivol is too risky and yet he has nothing to gain if it will be in the SMW division.

What do you think of this fight guys, still cherry picking or Charlo will give Canelo a run for his money?

https://www.insidesport.in/canelo-alvarez-vs-jermall-charlo-boxing-clash-confirmed-for-september-16-ppv-service-and-more-info-revealed/

I do consider it a cherry pick. Charlo was a good fighter in his prime but never really reached the elite level. He's been inactive for 2 years now and will be fighting in a new weight class against Canelo.

David Benavidez is the opponent fans were hoping would face Canelo. He already earned the opportunity by becoming the interim champion but it seems that he is too much of a threat and wasn't even considered when Bivol and Badou Jack turned down offers from Canelo. There is no logical reason to choose a semi-retired fighter over Benavidez, but we've already become accustomed to Canelo picking and choosing the most beatable opponents.

[Jating]

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Date: September 16
Venue: TBD

So, it's officially announced earlier that Jermall Charlo will move up in weight to challenge Canelo Alvarez which i think is the best fight for Canelo this year as a rematch with Bivol is too risky and yet he has nothing to gain if it will be in the SMW division.

What do you think of this fight guys, still cherry picking or Charlo will give Canelo a run for his money?

https://www.insidesport.in/canelo-alvarez-vs-jermall-charlo-boxing-clash-confirmed-for-september-16-ppv-service-and-more-info-revealed/

I do consider it a cherry pick. Charlo was a good fighter in his prime but never really reached the elite level. He's been inactive for 2 years now and will be fighting in a new weight class against Canelo.

David Benavidez is the opponent fans were hoping would face Canelo. He already earned the opportunity by becoming the interim champion but it seems that he is too much of a threat and wasn't even considered when Bivol and Badou Jack turned down offers from Canelo. There is no logical reason to choose a semi-retired fighter over Benavidez, but we've already become accustomed to Canelo picking and choosing the most beatable opponents.

Right, and the only fighter that went wrong with them is against Bivol, when they thought that they can beat the Russian. But Bivol was a different breed and was not affected by Canelo's skills or what not. He simply goes out there and fight his game and it could be the start of Canelo going downhill.

So Bivol declined their offer, they don't talk about the next Mexican warrior in Benadivez.

And then we are surprised to see them picking a inactive fighter and not a natural super middleweight.

[Finestream]

Canelo is not undefeated, so it's likely that Charlo's camp is already studying and experimenting to identify Canelo's weaknesses. However, it's important to note that it's easier said than done. While Canelo has experienced two losses in his career, it does suggest that defeating him is not impossible.

By the way, have the betting odds for this fight been released already?

I doubt Charlo has a good chance to beat Canelo, Charlo only fought once in the last 2 years and he need to fight Canelo, one of biggest boxers in this era.

I checked several sportsbooks and I don't find they included this fight, but I'm pretty sure Canelo will be heavy favorite. I think this fight isn't final yet as the venue and judges are still not announced.

I'm already expecting to read some statements like this whenever there are some who are questioning Canelo's current situation and chances after he had that surgery. The thing is, I'd be more glad if Canelo will be listed as the favorite or even a heavy-favorite because that means that betting on Charlo's favor will come with a high odds, which I think will happen because this is Canelo's division.

[btc_angela]

The biggest question right now and I'm sure will be asked in the press conference is why a fighter like Canelo is in his comeback fight, I know Jermall is good but even a great fighter will have a hard time dealing with ring rust, two years is enough to consider it like retirement, unless he is not stopping his training and does sparring at least 2 weeks in a month.

As per the news, Canelo's fight against Charlo is part of the three-fight deal with Premier Boxing Champions:

- against Jermall Charlo
- against David Benavidez*
- against David Morrel Jr.*

After Charlo, Canelo is supposed to fight again in May and September 2024. For some analysts, Canelo might have been offered a big paycheck for accepting this deal as it's risky for the "cash cow" to just accept fights, and generally, the usually followed timeline for Canelo is at least 1 fight per year.

*still undetermined

Ok, make sense, I thought that Canelo is going to re-sign with MatchRoom, so it seems that he moves to PBC and Al Haymon and have this 3 fights. So it also means that there will be no rematch to Bivol as he is with Eddie Hearn and MR, although if I'm not mistaken, PBC has also a deal with DAZN?

And so it was Charlo who will get the first crack at Canelo as a debut for him being in the PBC. But again, he has been criticized for choosing Charlo but it's a business move as he is now under Al Haymon. And now Bivol has no dance partner and could be just waiting for the mandatory fighter for his belt, or choose to go after Beterviev.

[danherbias07]

It should've been David Benavidez.
Well, Canelo Alvarez's camp wins. I don't think they want their boxer to be on the brink of losing so they will go for a smaller guy who will try and increase his weight and then go slower. Which I think will be a match for Canelo.
I was waiting for them to say it will be up against Benavidez because I thought Canelo's camp will be forced to do it after they knew that they could not get a rematch from Bivol and before the WBC title is stripped from him.

Here it goes, I just wish this will be an exciting fight. I guess I will be forced to bet for Canelo here as Jermall Charlo will need to gain weight while he is training which I think will be a hard task. If it's Benavidez, then I might bet for him.