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Question: How this fight would end?
Canelo by KO - 4 (26.7%)
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Author Topic: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Super Middleweight (September 16)  (Read 600 times)
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June 21, 2023, 12:30:42 PM
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So, it's officially announced earlier that Jermall Charlo will move up in weight to challenge Canelo Alvarez which i think is the best fight for Canelo this year as a rematch with Bivol is too risky and yet he has nothing to gain if it will be in the SMW division.

What do you think of this fight guys, still cherry picking or Charlo will give Canelo a run for his money?

https://www.insidesport.in/canelo-alvarez-vs-jermall-charlo-boxing-clash-confirmed-for-september-16-ppv-service-and-more-info-revealed/
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June 21, 2023, 12:45:22 PM
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You beat me to this, there's a post I'm following about these two colliding because these two are trash-talking each other, Charlo has a two-year lay off not good fighting a guy fresh from dominating his last fight.

This is a very exciting fight and I guess the best part will be the media conferences where we expect a lot of thrash talks to hype the fight, Canelo will be the biggest draw here and the overwhelming favorite if Harrison has beaten Jermall, Canelo can do better the fight is still two months but we'll hear more news and thrash talking between the two.





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June 21, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
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What do you think of this fight guys, still cherry picking or Charlo will give Canelo a run for his money?
I saw yesterday that there were a lot of criticisms made by some bettors and boxing fans on social media/Twitter, between Alvarez vs Charlo, this criticism invited many pros and cons for bettors, one side is good and on the other hand this is bad.

There is particular reason in this for Alvarez and Charlo.
I quote the statement and the reason.
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One boxing fan expressed their disappointment with the potential matchup, calling out the fact that Charlo hasn’t fought in two years and suggesting that other fighters, such as David Benavidez and Dmitry Bivol, were more worthy opponents for Alvarez at the 168-pound weight class.

Although there is a lot of criticism about their fighting potential, but I am pretty sure both of them will give their best and professional in the ring, as we have seen, both are the best boxers, apart from some criticism, what is clear is that we will see which one of them will display the best strength and skills they have, in my opinion they are both worth betting on and watching, of course the choice of one of them is Alvarez or Charlo. We can judge for ourselves, of course.

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June 21, 2023, 01:41:02 PM
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Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

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June 21, 2023, 01:53:00 PM
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This is a really tough fight for Charlo, he hasn’t fought for 2 years. Strange he did not take a tune-up fight first before fighting the best fighter in the world. Seems like a suicide mission but it will pay well, I bet.

I think Canelo will be the big favourite here, I predict a late stoppage.

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June 21, 2023, 02:10:19 PM
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This is a really tough fight for Charlo, he hasn’t fought for 2 years. Strange he did not take a tune-up fight first before fighting the best fighter in the world. Seems like a suicide mission but it will pay well, I bet.

I think Canelo will be the big favourite here, I predict a late stoppage.

Jermall Camp is putting their boxer at a big risk, Canelo is not an average boxer he beat so many good boxers in the middleweight and he is very fresh from dominating Ryder his two years lay off will have an impact, even the best boxer needs a tune fight before going against a fighter who is his equal but unfortunately Canelo is way better than Jermall.

Because of his camp's eagerness to face Canelo and get all his belt Jermall is in a dangerous situation he needs to train hard and get the best sparring partner that moves like Canelo.
I'm also predicting a knock win by Canelo his skill and power will prove too much for Jermall

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June 21, 2023, 04:18:51 PM
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Big names, good records. Would be exciting as we all know, especially die hard faans out there. Charlo, who is undefeated but rested for years versus a man who jist got into one. Both has enough power to knockout their opponents but I guess I'd go with Canelo on this one. It is not really a handicap on not being able to fight in the fmring for a year or more but alvarez has just edge with experience. Age on the other hand could be a factor but Canelo has provem himself countless times. A bias to alvarez in polls would be obvious but it will just be decided once the bell rings. It is either Charlo's hunger or Alvarez' pride, given the 'beef' which was heaten up recently.

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This is a really tough fight for Charlo, he hasn’t fought for 2 years. Strange he did not take a tune-up fight first before fighting the best fighter in the world. Seems like a suicide mission but it will pay well, I bet.

I think Canelo will be the big favourite here, I predict a late stoppage.

Jermall Camp is putting their boxer at a big risk, Canelo is not an average boxer he beat so many good boxers in the middleweight and he is very fresh from dominating Ryder his two years lay off will have an impact, even the best boxer needs a tune fight before going against a fighter who is his equal but unfortunately Canelo is way better than Jermall.

Because of his camp's eagerness to face Canelo and get all his belt Jermall is in a dangerous situation he needs to train hard and get the best sparring partner that moves like Canelo.
I'm also predicting a knock win by Canelo his skill and power will prove too much for Jermall


I thought so too. It may just be as hoping for a fluke. Canelo is looking forward to a rematch against Bivol of course he will be looking for someone that could be easy to bring down and he is not wasting time,e he wants it next year. Although Charlo is one of the best, the division is Canelo's domain.

For Charlo to really challenge in a manner where he has to get loaded is like taking a fall for Canelo money.


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It looks like Canelo Alvarez's camp got a deal that they are looking for.  Canelo Alvarez is at his best in this weight category so I think Canelo has all the advantages here.  This will be a huge challenge to Jermall Charlo since he goes up in weight and fights Canelo on his domain.


This is a really tough fight for Charlo, he hasn’t fought for 2 years. Strange he did not take a tune-up fight first before fighting the best fighter in the world. Seems like a suicide mission but it will pay well, I bet.

I think Canelo will be the big favourite here, I predict a late stoppage.

Jermall Camp is putting their boxer at a big risk, Canelo is not an average boxer he beat so many good boxers in the middleweight and he is very fresh from dominating Ryder his two years lay off will have an impact, even the best boxer needs a tune fight before going against a fighter who is his equal but unfortunately Canelo is way better than Jermall.

Because of his camp's eagerness to face Canelo and get all his belt Jermall is in a dangerous situation he needs to train hard and get the best sparring partner that moves like Canelo.
I'm also predicting a knock win by Canelo his skill and power will prove too much for Jermall


It is possible that the pot money is big enough for them to risk Charlo's career aside from the belt, it is also possible that Charlo is gaining weight and has difficulty maintaining the weight needed on his current division.  But whatever Charlo's camp reason, they should have scheduled a tune-up fight for him so that Charlo can familiarize himself with the weight division especially he came from a long hiatus.


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Thanks to this, yeah, I posted it here when  it was still a rumor hehehe. So it finally made official now.

And if I'm not mistaken, Jermall Charlo has been calling out Canelo for years now, before his hiatus and inactivity in boxing. Nevertheless it's a good fight for him money wise. But I think he will be too small for Canelo though, he is a good middleweight champion, but going up in weight and inactive in the last years or so might be too much for Charlo. So let's see if Canelo can get back to knocking out his opponent or if he is over the hill now and can't pull the trigger.

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Thanks to this, yeah, I posted it here when  it was still a rumor hehehe. So it finally made official now.

And if I'm not mistaken, Jermall Charlo has been calling out Canelo for years now, before his hiatus and inactivity in boxing. Nevertheless it's a good fight for him money wise. But I think he will be too small for Canelo though, he is a good middleweight champion, but going up in weight and inactive in the last years or so might be too much for Charlo. So let's see if Canelo can get back to knocking out his opponent or if he is over the hill now and can't pull the trigger.

This is a bad time for Jermall to take the Canelo fight, he has two years lay off and it will show up in his fight like what happened to Josh Taylor against Teofimo Lopez, Canelo is just coming from a dominant win against Ryder and his momentum will carry on this fight.

I'm sure this is going to create a lot of hype I don't know if Jermall will show aggressiveness in their press conferences as he did against Harrison, you don't want to anger Canelo because he brings his anger in the ring.
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There's no doubt Canelo Alvarez is the clear favorite here. His enemy hasn't had any fights for the last 2 years. I guess the trashtalks were worth it, because Alvarez clearly took the bait. It's a huge paycheck for Charlo even if he loses this fight because a lot of people will clearly be watching this fight solely because of Canelo.

This isn't worth it to bet. Odds are stacked against Charlo, and the best lines here perhaps is at what round will Canelo will win, which is a coin toss really.

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Thanks to this, yeah, I posted it here when  it was still a rumor hehehe. So it finally made official now.

And if I'm not mistaken, Jermall Charlo has been calling out Canelo for years now, before his hiatus and inactivity in boxing. Nevertheless it's a good fight for him money wise. But I think he will be too small for Canelo though, he is a good middleweight champion, but going up in weight and inactive in the last years or so might be too much for Charlo. So let's see if Canelo can get back to knocking out his opponent or if he is over the hill now and can't pull the trigger.

This is a bad time for Jermall to take the Canelo fight, he has two years lay off and it will show up in his fight like what happened to Josh Taylor against Teofimo Lopez, Canelo is just coming from a dominant win against Ryder and his momentum will carry on this fight.

I'm sure this is going to create a lot of hype I don't know if Jermall will show aggressiveness in their press conferences as he did against Harrison, you don't want to anger Canelo because he brings his anger in the ring.
Yes, but who can say no to Canelo fight? Alvarez is the cash cow, and just like Manny Pacquiao during his height, everyone wanted to fight him because it's a sweepstakes. And maybe this is what the camp of Charlo is thinking for sure.

I do agree, the Charlo brothers is known for trash talking, but I don't think that Canelo will back down from trash talking. He has improved his English a lot, and if I'm Charlo, I wouldn't go that fire and awake the fire in Canelo. Don't trash talk him as it might back fire on him, like in the Caleb Plant.

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There's no doubt Canelo Alvarez is the clear favorite here. His enemy hasn't had any fights for the last 2 years. I guess the trashtalks were worth it, because Alvarez clearly took the bait. It's a huge paycheck for Charlo even if he loses this fight because a lot of people will clearly be watching this fight solely because of Canelo.

There's no odd yet if I'm not mistaken. But I do agree that Canelo will be a huge favorite again in this fight. Could be like the Ryder fight as per odds. But in any case, I don't see this fight as hype though, I mean Canelo could be still be the cash cow, but fighting a boxer who has been on almost retiring and very inactive for many years? what gives?

Why Canelo camp chooses Jermall Charlo when they can have Bivol or Benavidez? Is this just one of those cherry pick fight for Alvarez? Or this is going to be the norm for him as he is now on a decline?

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Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Yes, we've seen that in the last couple of fights of Canelo, they are indeed cherry picking their opponents now. Charlo's best weight division is middleweight, 160 lbs and he was a champion. So his body need to adjust to the needed weight and I'm expecting that in the weigh-in, he might be below the required weight of 168 lbs.

Although he can claim that he can easily make the weight because he don't have to diet or something. But still though, there is a lot of adjustment carrying that extra weight that your body is not accustomed too. Plus the speed and the power itself, it might not be enough to upset Canelo and he might just walk through Charlo's power here.

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Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.
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Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.

Bu Charlo is a 160 lbs fighter throughout his career as a boxer, I don't think he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night. In terms of height yeah, all the advantage is with Charlo, but as far as weight goes, it will still be Canelo and this is his weight as he remains the undisputed champion at 168 lbs.

And it's obvious that Charlo has been looking at 160 lbs, he can't go down to 154 lbs because his twin brother is at that weight class. So he has been calling Canelo out for years but Canelo doesn't respond until Alvarez started to do cherry pick fights after his hand surgery.

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June 22, 2023, 07:43:21 AM
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Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.

Yes, there's no doubt and honestly, I'm disappointed about Canelo Alvarez because lately he's been saying nonsense stuffs about this and that but in the end, here he goes, cherry picking his opponents because he's not the same anymore especially now that his wrist is not in 100 percent full condition.

Jermall Charlo is just taking advantage of the opportunity because he knows himself that he's not getting any younger anymore, so why not fight for a much bigger money this time and who knows, he might upset Canelo too although it's quite difficult to think because Canelo owns this division. But we'll see though.
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June 22, 2023, 07:52:00 AM
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Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.

Bu Charlo is a 160 lbs fighter throughout his career as a boxer, I don't think he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night. In terms of height yeah, all the advantage is with Charlo, but as far as weight goes, it will still be Canelo and this is his weight as he remains the undisputed champion at 168 lbs.

And it's obvious that Charlo has been looking at 160 lbs, he can't go down to 154 lbs because his twin brother is at that weight class. So he has been calling Canelo out for years but Canelo doesn't respond until Alvarez started to do cherry pick fights after his hand surgery.

We don't know for sure, I mean we know that it's already a money fight and Canelo is looking at this fight as a cherry picking or might be another tune-up because of his situation but there is a side of me which is curious why Charlo is so determined and confident to call out Canelo on his own weight class. You know what I mean? I'm thinking that after all, Charlo is just sinking his size to fit at 160 lbs. when in-fact he's already fit to fight at 168 lbs.

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June 22, 2023, 07:57:25 AM
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The case of Jermall Charlo is really intriguing to say the least, he hasn't fought since 2021, and yet WBC hasn't stripped him of their championship. And there is a rumor floating around that says Charlo has been in some mental problems, it could be personal, that's why he hasn't fought for a long time.

And suddenly we heard that he is going back in fighting and then have Canelo as his comeback fight?

So very interesting pick of opponent from the Canelo side, for sure they know all the back story and it's obvious they are cherry picking Charlo for Canelo here.

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