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August 18, 2023, 08:29:03 PM
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy

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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy

Zuckerberg may be serious of putting up a fight with Musk, but yes, Musk may just be all talks and doesn't really want to go inside the ring.
But for sure this exhibition fight will fetch a lot of spectators because they are known personalities. However, it seems that Musk is just trolling here.
We may be just here for long discussion but this won't happen in reality because one camp is not so serious in making it happen.
But this potential match even not a professional one is actually gaining attention from the media and boxing fans, after all, they are two of the wealthiest people on earth right now.
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August 18, 2023, 09:56:05 PM
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy

But this potential match even not a professional one is actually gaining attention from the media and boxing fans, after all, they are two of the wealthiest people on earth right now.
It's quite true that the discussion about the possibility of this match happening has been a major topic for media houses, both boxing and karate fans and of course their business fans.
Perhaps, if we keep talking about it so much so, it might get to the camp of both parties(Elon Musk & Mark Zuckerberg) that they might reconsider their options and train even better to feature in the fixture for real.

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August 18, 2023, 11:56:41 PM
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If there are any boxers approaching the two billionaires, it will more likely be about representing them in a fight which the 2 billionaires will be happy to host and make money out of these boxers. And what is at stake is probably what the billionaires are going to discuss.

Assuming the two really agreed to fight, I don't see a point for boxers opposing the fight to happen when we have seen influencers and onlyfans girls fighting. But the physicians of Zucker and Elon will probably find an excuse for both not to fight just like Elon undergoing surgery.

Maybe Zuckerberg is serious about his newfound urge of getting into the ring to test his skills. But this nerd billionaire was late to realize that he was only trolled or being tripped by Elon Musk. And we know Elon is also good at trolling and making some stuff that can trend online.

Seriously though if people are following Zuck, Elon, and the fighting community and its media; Zuck is constantly training for over a year or even earlier. So it doesn't make sense for Musk to make the challenge serious other than getting attention once again. And greedy Dana White thought he can set the fight thru his UFC. Cheesy

But this potential match even not a professional one is actually gaining attention from the media and boxing fans, after all, they are two of the wealthiest people on earth right now.
It's quite true that the discussion about the possibility of this match happening has been a major topic for media houses, both boxing and karate fans and of course their business fans.
Perhaps, if we keep talking about it so much so, it might get to the camp of both parties(Elon Musk & Mark Zuckerberg) that they might reconsider their options and train even better to feature in the fixture for real.

The only person that will really train hard for this bout is Mark Zuckerberg. For Elon, this is just another opportunity to give emphasis and exposure to his businesses. He's not the kind of guy who'll really go serious in these types of schemes. He'd rather crunch numbers in his offices, or be the "admirable CEO" that he's trying to portray rather than go out of his way and be fit for a one-day bout that will not net him millions. I doubt this will ever come to fruition.

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August 19, 2023, 03:14:17 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.

This fight is just an exhibition match which means that it has no value for professional records. Anyone can fight on ring or octagon by just paying the fee. Influencer like Jake Paul and others manage to fight pro on an exhibition match while the two billionaires is just fighting for each other without representing any sports.

It’s like a fight to settle disagreement. It’s absurd to make a negative opinion about this match just because you are professional on that specific sports because sports is for everyone. Only the professional records should be their concern which is not the case on this fight.

The truth is that I am very Curious to see these two fight, even though it is not something where they will do a lot of damage, I want to see the fighting style of a Maark Zuckenber, that in my opinion I have never seen a hostile attitude towards anyone, everything the opposite, but I know that he must be a person who must fight very well , normally the people who are quietest are the ones who fight the most, it's just what I think, on the other hand I see Elon doing more of those people who always seek to obtain something else, that is, they are looking for a fight , they talk , they speculate , I like the environment that they are going to do it, in a coliseum I think, this makes it look and Sound very spicy and I like it, not all of us have had the Opportunity to Fight in a type of ring like that, so anyone would like to give a good start, as long as they are at the level , because I would not ask to fight an Inoue who I know can knock me out in a short Period of time.

UFC President Dana White explains what went wrong with the Mark Zuckerberg vs. Elon Musk negotiations  



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However, Musk did take to ‘X’ saying:

“The fight will be managed by my and Zuck’s foundations (not UFC). Livestream will be on this platform and Meta. Everything in camera frame will be ancient Rome, so nothing modern at all.”

“Everything done will pay respect to the past and present of Italy. And all proceeds go to veterans.”

Dana White was keen on the two fighting in the UFC, but is reflecting on what’s gone wrong, speaking to ‘TMZ Sports’ the UFC President said:

“So (Zuckerberg) and I talk multiple times a week. We (had) dinner last Monday. He’s very serious about competing…What he was saying in response to Elon was, ‘There are tons of professional organizations out there, and this is the way that this should be done.’ Not in some backyard or whatever he was saying. Elon’s hilarious.”
 

Source: https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/ufc/ufc-president-dana-white-explains-what-went-wrong-with-the-mark-zuckerberg-vs-elon-musk-negotiations/  

Well, whatever the reasons for both, it is something that could not happen, here the important thing is that I want to see these two in action, I would like to see the claw that Elon Musk has, because he is very sure of his way of doing fight, which I think is excellent, but what I'm most curious about is seeing Mark in action, because the things that happen here are that they are both very influential, so I don't know to what extent it will be seen as something Respectful , or something already set up so that it can be pleasing to the public, that's why I'm curious to see this kind of fight.

Now whoever wins Between these two I would like to win Better, I don't have a contender for whom I can Say, this is good for this or that , without even giving Details of his way of Training or anything, it is difficult to Speculate , at least for my is.

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August 19, 2023, 12:43:17 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if boxers and fighters all over the world will release some statements to somehow condemn the fight between Zuckerberg and Musk because they have every right to do it as it wasn't easy for them to achieve what they have and then there are this billionaires who can just make it happen with just one snap of their fingers.
On the other hand, they should also understand by now that life is truly unfair and that is the reality we're living in, it's either digest it or fight with that same right but in the end, you will not get to where you want because just as mentioned, life is unfair.

This fight is just an exhibition match which means that it has no value for professional records. Anyone can fight on ring or octagon by just paying the fee. Influencer like Jake Paul and others manage to fight pro on an exhibition match while the two billionaires is just fighting for each other without representing any sports.

It’s like a fight to settle disagreement. It’s absurd to make a negative opinion about this match just because you are professional on that specific sports because sports is for everyone. Only the professional records should be their concern which is not the case on this fight.

What we're trying to say is that the fame and money is following them without any troubles at all, that is why it might be quite unfair to the real fighters who actually got themselves into the process just to get the fame and money, you know, they have to climb the ladder and prove themselves who they are and in the end, it's just all about the money and fame. We just don't know for sure but there is also a chance that they would let this go because it doesn't have anything to do with them.

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Laughable he has such a fantasy view of what the fight would be.  Its really unlikely to go ahead because they only have so much to lose as both are billionaires.  The people who do these fights are those up and coming, trying to make their fortune yes even if they might be millionaire fighters this is still nothing compared to a billionaire.
  Neither Zuck or Elon ever have to do a thing again to be rich every day the rest of this century, to go into a fight and maybe induce an injury which might give some kind of pain daily for the rest of your life makes little sense.   A young gun making a name for themselves they take this risk and its worth it; plus just fighting when you are older promotes more possibility of injuries, vision damage anything at all is possible and has little value to such high worth individuals.  Both players in this fight should just donate 10m each to a charity,  Elon loves nonsense and maybe its good publicity but I dont imagine their staff or insurance coverage, legal team etc.  would even allow the fight to complete.

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Laughable he has such a fantasy view of what the fight would be.  Its really unlikely to go ahead because they only have so much to lose as both are billionaires.  The people who do these fights are those up and coming, trying to make their fortune yes even if they might be millionaire fighters this is still nothing compared to a billionaire.
  Neither Zuck or Elon ever have to do a thing again to be rich every day the rest of this century, to go into a fight and maybe induce an injury which might give some kind of pain daily for the rest of your life makes little sense.   A young gun making a name for themselves they take this risk and its worth it; plus just fighting when you are older promotes more possibility of injuries, vision damage anything at all is possible and has little value to such high worth individuals.  Both players in this fight should just donate 10m each to a charity,  Elon loves nonsense and maybe its good publicity but I dont imagine their staff or insurance coverage, legal team etc.  would even allow the fight to complete.

It will be an unfortunate thing if it will really happen in ancient Rome because that city is full of history that involves confidence, strength and power like a true Warrior fighting for a valid reason whom both Zuckerberg and Musk doesn't have. It will just give the city an embarrassment that may not be forgotten if they will let that happen on their ground. Furthermore, they already have a place and yet the date is still unknown up to this point, which is a sign that it will never happen.

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Elon Musk will come up with "crazy genius" ideas that he is known for, and it will not work and he will say that he was "ready to fight but Mark didn't want to do it that way". I mean he could even say that he will go to Space with his spaceships and then fight there with him, and when Mark refuses then Elon will say "as you can see he refused the fight!!". Its really stupid, just do it, you need a ref and a ring that's it, even a single cam from someone shooting it with their phones would be enough at this point, all people would care about would be seeing one of them win, not the fight itself. Its %100 obvious that he is going to end up losing and that is why he is making these moves.

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Now that Elon knows he can't beat Mark in a fight, the next up is "threads is not as good as twitter!!" as a response to it? I mean come on, where is the fight, I don't care about twitter or threads, I care about the fight, is Elon too chicken to have the fight on live TV just like any other fighter in the world?

Why is he trying to run around and find other alternatives and not just straight up goes against Mark? What's the point of having a big debate over this when you are too chicken to actually fight? Lets face it, Elon is just all talk and no action type of guy, he can't fight Mark, he can't fight even his own shadow, he was never capable of doing it and now he is trying to make up stuff and avoid it as much as he can.

we have to look at the ages of these two people, Elon Musk he's 52 years old, the guy has never been a professional fighter, so I highly doubt his body would take the brunt of hard punches, if they were going to boxe, but if they were going to do these mixed martial arts he has no nostalgia for withstand goals like strong kicks, falls to the ground, and blows with the armpit and there is the issue of taking into account that people his age are more likely to have heart problems, so I don't think it would be a good idea for him to fight against Mark Zuckerberg who is much younger than him, Mark Zuckerberg is 39 years old, so he is still at an age where even if he has not been a professional fighter he has the health and physique to withstand a fight

against a 52-year-old person, this fight is something that even on paper it is visible that Mark Zuckerberg would win easily, but the biggest problem will be if during the fight Elon Musk has bad health during the fight, this could have consequences bads for images of the two fighters. That's why in my opinion it's much better than the two fighters just fighting virtually on the internet that way nobody gets hurt physically. From what I see, Mark Zuckerberg is trying to succeed in creating his new social network to compete with Twitter, but it will be an action that will not be very successful. he was successful with facebook and instagram mass competing with twitter is useless, twitter would only lose to telegram in my opinion.

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Elon Musk will come up with "crazy genius" ideas that he is known for, and it will not work and he will say that he was "ready to fight but Mark didn't want to do it that way". I mean he could even say that he will go to Space with his spaceships and then fight there with him, and when Mark refuses then Elon will say "as you can see he refused the fight!!". Its really stupid, just do it, you need a ref and a ring that's it, even a single cam from someone shooting it with their phones would be enough at this point, all people would care about would be seeing one of them win, not the fight itself. Its %100 obvious that he is going to end up losing and that is why he is making these moves.

Zuck already dropped the idea and is looking to focus on his next fight with 'real' fighters based on his new post in Threads. He's already not interested since he knows that Elon is just bluffing, and he already offered tons of things to set the fight up and still, nothing is happening. I guess Mark no longer wants to be involved in this cheap marketing gimmick that Elon Musk is trying to do for himself.

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Elon Musk will come up with "crazy genius" ideas that he is known for, and it will not work and he will say that he was "ready to fight but Mark didn't want to do it that way". I mean he could even say that he will go to Space with his spaceships and then fight there with him, and when Mark refuses then Elon will say "as you can see he refused the fight!!". Its really stupid, just do it, you need a ref and a ring that's it, even a single cam from someone shooting it with their phones would be enough at this point, all people would care about would be seeing one of them win, not the fight itself. Its %100 obvious that he is going to end up losing and that is why he is making these moves.

Zuck already dropped the idea and is looking to focus on his next fight with 'real' fighters based on his new post in Threads. He's already not interested since he knows that Elon is just bluffing, and he already offered tons of things to set the fight up and still, nothing is happening. I guess Mark no longer wants to be involved in this cheap marketing gimmick that Elon Musk is trying to do for himself.

Is Mark Zuckerberg really that naïve to even consider fighting real fighters? I don't that is a good idea because this path was just opened because of Elon's gimmicks for calling out Mark for a fight and not that it already fell into pieces, I don't see any reasons for him to pursue this path as it will not lead him to anything that will give him benefit.

Is their giant tech companies boring them out? Because it seems to me that they have a lot of time to prepare for a nonsense fight rather than focusing on what they have and what they are good with.

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Is Mark Zuckerberg really that naïve to even consider fighting real fighters? I don't that is a good idea because this path was just opened because of Elon's gimmicks for calling out Mark for a fight and not that it already fell into pieces, I don't see any reasons for him to pursue this path as it will not lead him to anything that will give him benefit.

Is their giant tech companies boring them out? Because it seems to me that they have a lot of time to prepare for a nonsense fight rather than focusing on what they have and what they are good with.

The way I see it, both of them wanted to stay in media light for sometime, and Elon started the process by challenging Mark. The latter accepted it, to keep the hype going. These two are some of the richest people in the world. And more importantly they are self-made billionaires and young. Do you really believe that they are that stupid to indulge in a physical fight? Both of them got their 30 seconds of fame from the media, and their own social media platforms got a boost as a result. But now, the time has come to move on.

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Is Mark Zuckerberg really that naïve to even consider fighting real fighters?

The guy believed in himself after beating nerds in his local tournament. Plus I think his opponents were afraid to fight in full power against one of the richest person in the world. I truly believe that his "fighting real fighters" means only fighting under bjj rules, where maximum he could get is an injury due his own late tap. I saw him working on the pads. I hope that was just a cardio, not a practice for real fight. Because even if he wears helmet, head still get significant damage.

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August 22, 2023, 10:49:52 AM
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Is Mark Zuckerberg really that naïve to even consider fighting real fighters?

The guy believed in himself after beating nerds in his local tournament. Plus I think his opponents were afraid to fight in full power against one of the richest person in the world. I truly believe that his "fighting real fighters" means only fighting under bjj rules, where maximum he could get is an injury due his own late tap. I saw him working on the pads. I hope that was just a cardio, not a practice for real fight. Because even if he wears helmet, head still get significant damage.

There is a slight chance that these two will put up some sort of a fun fight. But I am 99% sure that the fight will take place in virtual space. Already Elon Musk has scored a victory, as his Twitter had demolished Threads in the competition over micro-blogging domain. But the threat from injury will always be there even if it is a fun-fight. And Elon wants a cage-fight and not a ring-fight. This increases the risk of injury. Elon's weakness is his age, while Mark's weakness is his height and mass. Both of them seems to maintain satisfactory levels of fitness though.

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August 22, 2023, 11:30:27 AM
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Is Mark Zuckerberg really that naïve to even consider fighting real fighters? I don't that is a good idea because this path was just opened because of Elon's gimmicks for calling out Mark for a fight and not that it already fell into pieces, I don't see any reasons for him to pursue this path as it will not lead him to anything that will give him benefit.
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What do you mean? Zuckerberg has already competed in a jiu-jitsu competition and keeps on fighting and practicing it. Being a "real" fighter doesn't mean you need to be blakbelt+ pro, but to take this sport seriously. Practice it and have respect for it enough to understand, that showing up someone's backdoor wanting to fight because you want to show off, is far from respecting the the sport or people teaching it.

Being humble is a big part of learning it.

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August 22, 2023, 04:42:30 PM
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Elon Musk will come up with "crazy genius" ideas that he is known for, and it will not work and he will say that he was "ready to fight but Mark didn't want to do it that way". I mean he could even say that he will go to Space with his spaceships and then fight there with him, and when Mark refuses then Elon will say "as you can see he refused the fight!!". Its really stupid, just do it, you need a ref and a ring that's it, even a single cam from someone shooting it with their phones would be enough at this point, all people would care about would be seeing one of them win, not the fight itself. Its %100 obvious that he is going to end up losing and that is why he is making these moves.

Some people like Elon are only in because the attention and the spotlight some rumors can offer to their ego.
That is why he has not completely ruled out the possibility of an actual fight, he wants people to continue talking about him and continue to speculate.

When people start to get tired of waiting and assume the fight is not actually going to happen, I would not be surprised if Elon started to publish references to the fight and subtle hints about it on Twitter, so people would continue to talk about it. To end the rumors, it would take Mark to step up and say he is not going to do it, but that would make him look bad , for obvious reasons, the internet would get full with chad Elon scared Mark off the fight. 

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August 22, 2023, 09:41:14 PM
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Is Mark Zuckerberg really that naïve to even consider fighting real fighters?

The guy believed in himself after beating nerds in his local tournament. Plus I think his opponents were afraid to fight in full power against one of the richest person in the world. I truly believe that his "fighting real fighters" means only fighting under bjj rules, where maximum he could get is an injury due his own late tap. I saw him working on the pads. I hope that was just a cardio, not a practice for real fight. Because even if he wears helmet, head still get significant damage.
Hehehe...Mark is just a soft dude. No matter how hard he tries to hide the nerd in him behind sweat and joint pads.
Any real fighter from even the streets in the lightest weight division, that's hungry, angry and either broke or near broke would rip him apart just to prove a point to nature and am very sure the helmet or rules and regulations would do little to save him from the damage.

Elon am sure in his prime or if he were in same age bracket as Mark right now, wouldn't budge on an excuse to evade this fight.
We just have to agree that with power comes great responsibility, and this is the reason why this presumption of the fight still lingers.

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Elon Musk will come up with "crazy genius" ideas that he is known for, and it will not work and he will say that he was "ready to fight but Mark didn't want to do it that way". I mean he could even say that he will go to Space with his spaceships and then fight there with him, and when Mark refuses then Elon will say "as you can see he refused the fight!!". Its really stupid, just do it, you need a ref and a ring that's it, even a single cam from someone shooting it with their phones would be enough at this point, all people would care about would be seeing one of them win, not the fight itself. Its %100 obvious that he is going to end up losing and that is why he is making these moves.

Some people like Elon are only in because the attention and the spotlight some rumors can offer to their ego.
That is why he has not completely ruled out the possibility of an actual fight, he wants people to continue talking about him and continue to speculate.

When people start to get tired of waiting and assume the fight is not actually going to happen, I would not be surprised if Elon started to publish references to the fight and subtle hints about it on Twitter, so people would continue to talk about it. To end the rumors, it would take Mark to step up and say he is not going to do it, but that would make him look bad , for obvious reasons, the internet would get full with chad Elon scared Mark off the fight. 
Whether these kind of decisions have some hidden intent or really just that having fun on trying to do the things that they do want or really just seeking up some attention from the public. It is really just that it turns

out that this kind of challenging is really going into the point where he would really be needing to fight his co-fellow billionaire which is younger and having that experience on fighting on which if he was scared on the first place then he would definitely be just simply cancelling it but we know on how ego and principle does works or simply the fame. If people turns out that seeing you that chickening on a fight that you have startedthen this is where bad impressions do start and this is something that these people wont really be liking. This is why there's no taking back on what Elon had started. Just like the rest been saying that
i dont know if this fight would push through or we would really be seeing some series or explanation and alibis for this fight to be delayed once more. So its better for the public not to put up any attention
about these billionaires clash and talks.


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August 22, 2023, 11:35:41 PM
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Zuckerberg may be serious of putting up a fight with Musk, but yes, Musk may just be all talks and doesn't really want to go inside the ring.
But for sure this exhibition fight will fetch a lot of spectators because they are known personalities. However, it seems that Musk is just trolling here.
We may be just here for long discussion but this won't happen in reality because one camp is not so serious in making it happen.
But this potential match even not a professional one is actually gaining attention from the media and boxing fans, after all, they are two of the wealthiest people on earth right now.

haha, elon musk has never been serious about this fight, he's just joking even though he made a loud tweet about him being ready to fight in the ring but until now there's not the slightest news when the fight between the two will take place in the ring, until now we can see both of their tweets and even Elon Musk mentioned where they will fight (that's in the UFC vegas octagon ring)

but if this fight happens then I will choose mark as the winner, he is still young and has better stamina than elon musk lol



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