If I'm Satoshi Nakamoto How do I prove it?

[FinePoine0]

Since Satoshi is now with the secret we assume Satoshi is dead, but the only one who can open the wallet is Satoshi. Satoshi has sunk to the bottom of the deep sea and Satoshi has nothing to prove. The person Satoshi is sure to never look for ways to prove himself. Satoshi Nakamato is busy trying to prove that he's an idiot.

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[knowngunman]

Satoshi Namamoto left the forum since 2010 and over the years, the forum head administrator was changed from sirius to theymos. Satoshi Nakamoto no longer has access to forum domain, forum administration and his account was even locked by theymos.

He can come back, can get his account back but must sign a message with his PGP key, to prove that he is actual Satoshi Nakamoto. If he succeeds, theymos will unlock his account and maybe he will become a head administrator again.

Before that, he can not do any of three aformentioned points.

Does this mean that Satoshi and thymos or other administrative staffs have any form of relationship? I'm just curious! If I am not mistaken, he (Satoshi) created the forum and I don't think anyone will handle anything vital as this forum to a random person and disappear. If he did not personally handle it to them, how did thymos and others assume the leadership role in the forum?

I'm not too good in tech and I don't know how the system operates but something is not clear to me here. I hope I'm not thinking nonsense... I really need some enlightenment.

[JollyGood]

I think it is widely accepted no matter the evidence someone would present in the future to support their case for being Satoshi Nakamoto, it will not be believed because known addresses can be signed but they can also be compromised too (just as the GMX email address). Also, it is widely accepted Satoshi was more likely a group rather than an individual therefore proving anything will be extremely problematic.

Besides opening one of the wallets.
Aside from just saying I am like Craig Wright.
Would an original Whitepaper doc be sufficient or do you think that there would still be critics? I know there would still be critics, Im just asking what do all of you folks think?
If Satoshi can produce such a document would it harm the value of BTC or increase said value?
I personally don't think it matters much, but I've never been the type to make a big deal of anything.  If Satoshi was to come out of the darkness and into the light what would it matter?
Please refrain from any form of free speech that offends anyone on here.  Lol BTC

[Stalker22]

Does this mean that Satoshi and thymos or other administrative staffs have any form of relationship? I'm just curious! If I am not mistaken, he (Satoshi) created the forum and I don't think anyone will handle anything vital as this forum to a random person and disappear. If he did not personally handle it to them, how did thymos and others assume the leadership role in the forum?

I'm not too good in tech and I don't know how the system operates but something is not clear to me here. I hope I'm not thinking nonsense... I really need some enlightenment.

As far as I know, theymos was appointed forum admin by satoshi himself. Later, a decision was made to separate the forum from the main bitcoin.org domain and move it to a new one. This decision was reached by consensus among prominent Bitcoin figures like Sirius, Theymos, and some other developers, exchange operators, etc.

You might consider exploring other posts from theymos during that period, such as this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33393.msg417531#msg417531

[EarnOnVictor]

Since Satoshi is now with the secret we assume Satoshi is dead, but the only one who can open the wallet is Satoshi. Satoshi has sunk to the bottom of the deep sea and Satoshi has nothing to prove. The person Satoshi is sure to never look for ways to prove himself. Satoshi Nakamato is busy trying to prove that he's an idiot.

This is not about being idiotic or not, it is all about being neutral, which is why he created a decentralised system so that he himself will not have control over it. I think this is heroic and many would not be able to change it because they would want to be the owner, or at least the big name/figure known with it.

But Satoshi is selfless in this regard and it is a good characteristic. But his decision not to be known is not 100% good for the system, and this is one reason why I would have loved it if he could do it better, or reveal himself for recognition. But I do not think this will ever happen.

Is it dead? I don't think so, he actually hands down purposefully and also made his intention about it known before he hands down.

[Adbitco]

If you must know satoshi would never reveal himself for the safety and security of bitcoin, have you know how long they've been trying to look for him? Yeah it was intentional purpose because his anonymous nature is what gives strength to growth of bitcoin bitcoin today and for that bitcoin would always remain the best among all since government and any agency can't fight it but could fight any other coin out there that doesn't maintain privacy.

[Marvelman]

If you must know satoshi would never reveal himself for the safety and security of bitcoin, have you know how long they've been trying to look for him? Yeah it was intentional purpose because his anonymous nature is what gives strength to growth of bitcoin bitcoin today and for that bitcoin would always remain the best among all since government and any agency can't fight it but could fight any other coin out there that doesn't maintain privacy.

With all due respect, I'm not so sure we can say for certain why Satoshi wanted to stay anonymous.  You make a fair point that it could have been about keeping Bitcoin decentralized and safe from control.  But there may be other reasons too that we just don't know.  Satoshi never explained his thinking on all this and  he hasn't said anything publicly about why he decided on anonymity.  So were left to guess at his motivations based on the limited info we have.

Satoshi never had an account at bpip. 

What do you mean by that? Bpip doesn't have "accounts", it only aggregates data from the bitcointalk forum.

[ChiBitCTy]

First of all Satoshi doesn't need to go back and prove himself.
"Besides opening one of the wallets" no matter what you do I wouldn't believe you are Satoshi. Even if you could sign a message I still wouldn't believe it. You may have his keys but not his identity. I believe Satoshi is long dead, his legacy will forever live.

So you’re saying Satoshi is Hal Finney is what I’m hearing If not, I don’t get the notion of so many thinking Satoshi is dead. Satoshi plotted its every move with very precise precision.. Satoshi is clearly in to economics in a big way, and I’d bet the moon they planned long before they left,  to do so. Every coin besides btc worth a darn or has any sort of market value has a known lead dev/creator/largest bag holder..and that goes against bitcoins principles ( a central figurehead ). Also (not saying this is you) it’s kind of funny that people reference his big known wallet that hasn’t moved as a clue of their demise.. I mean dude(s)(ets) created btc, pretty confident they created wallets, likely mined / purchased a bunch more through different outlets and perhaps different people on all sorts of different wallets..that large wallet sitting there provides a heck of a lot to bitcoins image.

I have my theories as it’s just fun to think about, but I’m glad they left and confident it’s for good..they want to see their massively historical creation continue to grow and thrive..which is helped by him staying gone.

I know theymos, Cyrus, hilarious etc just love these threads that NEVER come up ….so I’m done. Just had to say my 2 Satoshis

[Adbitco]

If you must know satoshi would never reveal himself for the safety and security of bitcoin, have you know how long they've been trying to look for him? Yeah it was intentional purpose because his anonymous nature is what gives strength to growth of bitcoin bitcoin today and for that bitcoin would always remain the best among all since government and any agency can't fight it but could fight any other coin out there that doesn't maintain privacy.

With all due respect, I'm not so sure we can say for certain why Satoshi wanted to stay anonymous.  You make a fair point that it could have been about keeping Bitcoin decentralized and safe from control.  But there may be other reasons too that we just don't know.  Satoshi never explained his thinking on all this and  he hasn't said anything publicly about why he decided on anonymity.  So were left to guess at his motivations based on the limited info we have.

Have you thought of those coin and project they said government have been attacking all these while? Yes it's true that no one's knows the reason for his disappearance but have you also forgotten how they were looking for him and many people where claiming to be satoshi why they are not. Lemme just say, people don't know if satoshi is a group of people or company that is teamed up for building out bitcoin and give a general name as satoshi.

[knowngunman]

As far as I know, theymos was appointed forum admin by satoshi himself. Later, a decision was made to separate the forum from the main bitcoin.org domain and move it to a new one. This decision was reached by consensus among prominent Bitcoin figures like Sirius, Theymos, and some other developers, exchange operators, etc.

You might consider exploring other posts from theymos during that period, such as this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33393.msg417531#msg417531

Well, thank you for that link and some clarification. The link is about the transfer of Forum domain to another and I don't think my question has been properly answered. I bolded some part of your comment which is the genesis of my initial question. I know it doesn't make any difference but if Satoshi himself appointed thymos as the admin, it could mean that thymos knows Satoshi or vice versa. I don't want to believe someone built a platform and all of a sudden, he left everything under the control of total strangers whom he never knew or met and disappeared. I might sound childish but thymos probably know whereabout of Satoshi, either dead or alive.

[PytagoraZ]

First of all Satoshi doesn't need to go back and prove himself.
"Besides opening one of the wallets" no matter what you do I wouldn't believe you are Satoshi. Even if you could sign a message I still wouldn't believe it. You may have his keys but not his identity. I believe Satoshi is long dead, his legacy will forever live.

So you’re saying Satoshi is Hal Finney is what I’m hearing If not, I don’t get the notion of so many thinking Satoshi is dead. Satoshi plotted its every move with very precise precision.. Satoshi is clearly in to economics in a big way, and I’d bet the moon they planned long before they left,  to do so. Every coin besides btc worth a darn or has any sort of market value has a known lead dev/creator/largest bag holder..and that goes against bitcoins principles ( a central figurehead ). Also (not saying this is you) it’s kind of funny that people reference his big known wallet that hasn’t moved as a clue of their demise.. I mean dude(s)(ets) created btc, pretty confident they created wallets, likely mined / purchased a bunch more through different outlets and perhaps different people on all sorts of different wallets..that large wallet sitting there provides a heck of a lot to bitcoins image.

I have my theories as it’s just fun to think about, but I’m glad they left and confident it’s for good..they want to see their massively historical creation continue to grow and thrive..which is helped by him staying gone.

I know theymos, Cyrus, hilarious etc just love these threads that NEVER come up ….so I’m done. Just had to say my 2 Satoshis

In my opinion, if Satoshi really comes back then he doesn't need to do anything and doesn't need to do a sig message to prove who he is, even though he forgot his email and password for his bitcointalk account. He just needs to create a new account and PM theymos and talk a little about the past. I think theymos will soon find out that he is the real satoshi or not. IMO

[alastantiger]

If I'm Satoshi Nakamoto How do I prove it?

It's easy, if Satoshi could disappear without anyone knowing then he would know how to come back and how to prove himself

If someone claims to be Satoshi and is busy trying to prove it, he is clearly not Satoshi. Satoshi knew how to disappear and he definitely knew how to come back, if he disappeared without planning it then he would never come back

Whatever Sats does, he should stay the fuck wherever he is.

There is going to be commotion everywhere if he suddenly shows up. And proving his identity isn't going to be easy. It would take years before there is a general agreement. And by that time, the bitcoin market would have collapse. And it wouldn't matter if he signs a message from his PGP key or nothing, there will be commotion every dam place on the earth because of his reappearance.

[Stalker22]

As far as I know, theymos was appointed forum admin by satoshi himself. Later, a decision was made to separate the forum from the main bitcoin.org domain and move it to a new one. This decision was reached by consensus among prominent Bitcoin figures like Sirius, Theymos, and some other developers, exchange operators, etc.

You might consider exploring other posts from theymos during that period, such as this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33393.msg417531#msg417531

Well, thank you for that link and some clarification. The link is about the transfer of Forum domain to another and I don't think my question has been properly answered. I bolded some part of your comment which is the genesis of my initial question. I know it doesn't make any difference but if Satoshi himself appointed thymos as the admin, it could mean that thymos knows Satoshi or vice versa. I don't want to believe someone built a platform and all of a sudden, he left everything under the control of total strangers whom he never knew or met and disappeared. I might sound childish but thymos probably know whereabout of Satoshi, either dead or alive.

It was probably not all of a sudden. And as far as I know, theymos was not the only admin on the forum. You will notice that he is one of the oldest members and joined the forum only a few months after the forum was created. So it makes sense that Satoshi chose members who were active members of the community at the time and showed an interest in technology in the earliest days of Bitcoin. This does not necessarily mean that they knew each other or ever met in real life.