Can Bitcointalk Adopt the Web3 System?

[PytagoraZ]

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future? maybe it will be more interesting if we can log in with a bitcoin wallet

But I don't know if a bitcoin wallet can do something like that. most sites that adopt the web3 system use the ethereum network

If that can happen, the marketplace system will also be easier to use. I think the marketplace system here is too conventional. Not bad, but prone to fraud
I was enjoying a cup of coffee while browsing the forums. suddenly thought that question in my mind

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[Nwada001]

First, there's no Web3 project so far that has been able to build a plugin that will enable direct connection to a Bitcoin wallet (Not multi-wallets). So that could not be possible unless something changed in the future.

Another thing is that I don't think this will ever be taken into consideration for security reasons; the admin won't want to be held responsible for anyone's assets being lost. When you are using a Web 3 connection for your account and wallet, you are entrusting that 3rd party with your funds security. If it happens that you have security leakage from someone else, this won't be an exemption for you to raise your suspicions.

So for the safety of Bitcointalk, it's actually a bad idea. For the forum to maintain its name, such a thing should even be avoided. Let the admin have fewer things to worry about.

[_act_]

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future?

But I don't know if a bitcoin wallet can do something like that. most sites that adopt the web3 system use the ethereum network

Why do you need web3 login when there is no need for it if you know the proper ways to avoid scammers. What people are still looking forward to is the two-factor authentication which might be done before this year get to an end.

Web3 login is not what is possible yet for bitcoin wallets, there is no bitcoin wallet using web3 for bitcoin because web3 is not in bitcoin protocol and likely will not be there.

If that can happen, the marketplace system will also be easier to use. I think the marketplace system here is too conventional. Not bad, but prone to fraud

If you want to trade with someone on this forum, you can ask for the person to sign his bitcoin address which have already been used on this forum before.

If the person has PGP public key, you can use that as prove also by sending him an encrypted message, telling him to decrypt the message.

[PX-Z]

No, look at the looks of this forum, even the latest website technology even before the introduction web3 isn't implemented yet, how much more for a feature like that.
Maybe in the future there's a chance since web3 and this forum is about bitcoin/crypto and blockchain.

[tranthidung]

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future? maybe it will be more interesting if we can log in with a bitcoin wallet

You login Web3 website with your wallet for what?

Only when you need to use their products which are either GameFi, DeFi, Metaverse, Gambling, ... Now, let's think what will you do with your Bitcoin wallet in Bitcointalk?

The forum is for Bitcoin discussions and some other less important discussions. It is not not a platform for directly trading peer to peer. Your Bitcoin wallet, private key and address can be used to Sign a message and Stake it as parts of your ownership proofs. They can be useful for account recovery.

But I don't know if a bitcoin wallet can do something like that.

Technically I guess it can be done with wallets compatible with BRC20 tokens but they are shit tokens and not real Bitcoin.

[PytagoraZ]

First, there's no Web3 project so far that has been able to build a plugin that will enable direct connection to a Bitcoin wallet (Not multi-wallets). So that could not be possible unless something changed in the future.

Hi nwanda. I'm glad you commented on my thread. Maybe you're right, security is the top priority in this forum. And using web3 is still too vulnerable for now. I don't know in the future

Why do you need web3 login? What people are still looking forward to is the two factor authentication which might be done before this year get to an end. Web3 login is not what is possible yet on this forum, there is no bitcoin wallet using web3 for bitcoin because web3 is not in bitcoin protocol and likely will not be there.

I don't really need to login using the web3 system. This is just a question that popped into my mind. But sometimes I think, bitcoin is an advanced technological breakthrough for the future, why are bitcoin forums still running conventionally? of course the admin of this site is very thorough with security, so it's very strict in this forum.

Only when you need to use their products which are either GameFi, DeFi, Metaverse, Gambling, ... Now, let's think what will you do with your Bitcoin wallet in Bitcointalk?

hi tranthidung
I'm glad to see you again. I think you're right, and as usual you have lots of useful links

[mk4]

Crypto-fication of a huge majority of  things is unnecessary. I'm yet to be convinced why Bitcointalk needs to be changed to a 'web 3' style platform; as I think it's totally unnecessary. Unless you have a viable reason to change things, of course. I'm open to ideas!

[libert19]

Similar topic here. Honestly, I'd love to have alternative login system like this, in addition to the current one, so people can choose as per their preference. But, I'm not sure if there are Bitcoin web3 wallets like metamask.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

First, there's no Web3 project so far that has been able to build a plugin that will enable direct connection to a Bitcoin wallet (Not multi-wallets). So that could not be possible unless something changed in the future.

Hi nwanda. I'm glad you commented on my thread. Maybe you're right, security is the top priority in this forum. And using web3 is still too vulnerable for now. I don't know in the future

I am not going to install a browser extension and give it access of my wallet to login in something. May be web3 is something I don't understand but I am happy with the old school where I know how to keep my wallet secure.

If bitcointalk needs to do anything, then it's the new forum software we have in work in progress. Convert the current forum into the new forum software. But problem is, from the years we are waiting for it and I lost my hope that there will be anything we will see such thing ever. This old SMF is our only and last hope LOL

[rat03gopoh]

This forum doesn't have an interactive business plan where you've to authorize your wallet, in conclusion your proposal isn't needed. But really, it requires high financial responsibility regardless of security, and fyi so far mods haven't been too enthusiastic about dealing with cases of user loss.
After all, this forum is oriented towards community discussion, and that should remain a hallmark.

[_act_]

But sometimes I think, bitcoin is an advanced technological breakthrough for the future, why are bitcoin forums still running conventionally? of course the admin of this site is very thorough with security, so it's very strict in this forum.

Bitcoin is no supporting web3 just like I said before, this forum can not follow the ways of the altcoins.

Honestly, I'd love to have alternative login system like this, in addition to the current one, so people can choose as per their preference. But, I'm not sure if there are Bitcoin web3 wallets like metamask.

But which can not happen. Let us wait for 2FA implementation on this forum if you need additional layer of protection. A for me, I am use to the old way to login and it is perfect for me if 2FA is added.

[LoyceV]

No, just no!

I had to search what this hype means:

Web3 ~ is an idea for a new iteration of the World Wide Web which incorporates concepts such as decentralization, blockchain technologies, and token-based economics.

It sounds a lot like the crazy ICO hype, where all of a sudden some made-up token was going to disrupt every real industry. None of that happened, but it made some people very rich. And that was exactly the way it was designed.

It gets better:

Web3 is the answer to this dilemma. Instead of a Web monopolized by large technology companies, Web3 embraces decentralization and is being built, operated, and owned by its users. Web3 puts power in the hands of individuals rather than corporations.

That's rich, coming from a centrally controlled premined shitcoin that sold out on it's Unique Selling Point the moment it benefited the creator and his rich friends.

Reminder: "Anything that can be done without a blockchain, should be done without a blockchain."

[dkbit98]

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future? maybe it will be more interesting if we can log in with a bitcoin wallet

I am not interested at all in this and I don't want to connect any wallets with my bitcointalk account, it is waste of time.
Web3 have nothing to do with bitcoin as far as I know, it's only related with worthless shitcoins and it doesn't have any real use case in real world.
If I want to make login in forum more secure I would only consider adding optional 2FA as improvement to current login system.

[libert19]

Honestly, I'd love to have alternative login system like this, in addition to the current one, so people can choose as per their preference. But, I'm not sure if there are Bitcoin web3 wallets like metamask.

But which can not happen. Let us wait for 2FA implementation on this forum if you need additional layer of protection. A for me, I am use to the old way to login and it is perfect for me if 2FA is added.

This wouldn't be a way to protect account, it would just allow user to login with wallet.

Web3 is the answer to this dilemma. Instead of a Web monopolized by large technology companies, Web3 embraces decentralization and is being built, operated, and owned by its users. Web3 puts power in the hands of individuals rather than corporations.

That's rich, coming from a centrally controlled premined shitcoin that sold out on it's Unique Selling Point the moment it benefited the creator and his rich friends.

I don't know truth of your statements but I try to imagine crypto ecosystem without ethereum and it appears really dull.

Reminder: "Anything that can be done without a blockchain, should be done without a blockchain."

I presume you don't use ethereum dapps otherwise you would understand how cumbersome it would be to login with web2 login system in those.

Web3 have nothing to do with bitcoin as far as I know, it's only related with worthless shitcoins and it doesn't have any real use case in real world..

Wow! Bitcointalk is really filled with Bitcoin maxis.

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future? maybe it will be more interesting if we can log in with a bitcoin wallet

Email is more convenient though, since these days almost everyone have one in order to use some feature on their smartphone. Meanwhile new cryptocurrency user and some security-conscious person are unlikely to have hot wallet installed on their device.

I find creating wallet convenient, and it doesn't require any information to create one. Please don't blast saving of mnemonic and similar is hard thing to do.

Only if both buyer and seller agree to use escrow feature on Web3, which can be done without Web3 in first place.

Why would you not like it being automated? Although, I also think it's unnecessary for bitcointalk but still.

[elevates]

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future? maybe it will be more interesting if we can log in with a bitcoin wallet

But I don't know if a bitcoin wallet can do something like that. most sites that adopt the web3 system use the ethereum network

The question is why? The forum does not sell or buy anything! This forum is meant for discussion and allows anyone to earn Bitcoin through the Signature Campaigns. I understand you would like to have transparency as using web3 you can achieve it. The only problem is that Bitcoin wallets are not meant for web3. Unless you come out with something new. The current situation here is that we are happy with what we have and are not interested in anything new. In simple word we are not going to come out of our comfort zone.

[FatFork]

I don't really need to login using the web3 system. This is just a question that popped into my mind. But sometimes I think, bitcoin is an advanced technological breakthrough for the future, why are bitcoin forums still running conventionally? of course the admin of this site is very thorough with security, so it's very strict in this forum.

Yes, Bitcoin is an advanced technological breakthrough for the future of digital currency and financial systems, it has nothing to do with logging into online forums and websites. Seriously, why would you want to link your wallet to your online forum profile? It just opens up a can of worms, exposing you to all sorts of risks. You don't want your financial assets out in the open for everyone to see, right? Plus, there are always potential threats such as hacking or phishing attacks.

[robelneo]

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future? maybe it will be more interesting if we can log in with a bitcoin wallet

But I don't know if a bitcoin wallet can do something like that. most sites that adopt the web3 system use the ethereum network

I am more conservative and I want to retain the current login I don't think SMF has a plugin like this, they have authentication but not something that is similar to WEB3, I don't think we're going to need that it will just complicate for new people coming in that has no idea what WEB3.

If that can happen, the marketplace system will also be easier to use. I think the marketplace system here is too conventional. Not bad, but prone to fraud

Bitcointalk was built and its purpose is to disscuss anything and everything about Bitcoin not for member's marketplace, let the sellers and buyers protect each other, and not the site adjusting to serve these members

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Hi nwanda. I'm glad you commented on my thread. Maybe you're right, security is the top priority in this forum. And using web3 is still too vulnerable for now.

Admittedly I don't know much about web3, as I'm perpetually late to the party when it comes to new tech and becoming familiar with it, but if we're talking about something as simple as logging onto a discussion forum....why complicate it?  It seems to me that even if there weren't security issues (and I'm just assuming there are based on what I'm reading), implementing a login function based on a link to a wallet would pose some privacy issues at the very least.  And yeah, those could be avoided by people who know what they're doing, but again why take a simple procedure and introduce problems and complexity to it when it isn't needed?

Frankly I don't think bitcointalk as a website is ever going to grow out of its 2009 roots, either in appearance or in functionality.  But me?  I like it that way.  Then again, 2009 seems like it was yesterday; to younger members I'm sure everything here seems like a throwback to another era, one in which they either weren't born in or were very young. 

On the other hand, one thing I've learned in life is that nothing stays the same forever.  Our beloved bitcointalk is bound to change sooner or later, web3 or no web3.

[LoyceV]

That's rich, coming from a centrally controlled premined shitcoin that sold out on it's Unique Selling Point the moment it benefited the creator and his rich friends.

I don't know truth of your statements but I try to imagine crypto ecosystem without ethereum and it appears really dull.

Maybe you should read up on the history of the biggest shitcoin before shilling or even touching it.

I presume you don't use ethereum dapps otherwise you would understand how cumbersome it would be to login with web2 login system in those.

So you're saying the shitcoin created something that can't be used without the shitcoin? Big surprise!
Let's look it up again:

Dapps are a growing movement of applications that use Ethereum to disrupt business models or invent new ones.

This is literally the same BS as the ICO hype that made some people so much richer while many gullible people lost their money.
It hasn't "disrupted" anything. Look it up before still shilling for this 6 years later!

Web3 have nothing to do with bitcoin as far as I know, it's only related with worthless shitcoins and it doesn't have any real use case in real world..

Wow! Bitcointalk is really filled with Bitcoin maxis.

You seem like the typical shitcoin shill: attacking the messenger instead of responding to his post. I guess you can't show a real use case in the real world.

Only if both buyer and seller agree to use escrow feature on Web3, which can be done without Web3 in first place.

Why would you not like it being automated?

You can't automate an escrow and account for all potential problems that arrise. Unless of course you're talking about trading some made-up token on their own made-up made-up platform, but that's as centralized as it gets.

[ABCbits]

Currently, it seems that sites that implement web3 technology are popular. This site connect wallet to login. Is it possible if bitcointalk also adopts such a system in the future? maybe it will be more interesting if we can log in with a bitcoin wallet

Email is more convenient though, since these days almost everyone have one in order to use some feature on their smartphone. Meanwhile new cryptocurrency user and some security-conscious person are unlikely to have hot wallet installed on their device.

I find creating wallet convenient, and it doesn't require any information to create one. Please don't blast saving of mnemonic and similar is hard thing to do.

Actually it's matter of preferences. I find entering email address (which i already create and remember) faster and easier. In addition, you don't have to remember your password if you use online password manager.

Only if both buyer and seller agree to use escrow feature on Web3, which can be done without Web3 in first place.

Why would you not like it being automated? Although, I also think it's unnecessary for bitcointalk but still.

I doubt it can be automated when escrow need to verify buyer receive goods on expected condition. And in first place, many people would raise skepticism since many Web3 turned out to be either centralized or has questionable security.