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July 14, 2023, 09:17:23 AM
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Indeed, if you can stay as it is, treating gambling as part of entertainment and not to engage too much to save both time and your money, for sure it's the best decision as you will not be eager to try other options just to have an edge when betting with your favorite sports, to the extent that you'll participate with paid groups thinking that you may have a better chance when tipsters that you pay will give you a sure bet to place your money.

It's not usual or maybe not really existing, there's nothing that accurate and sure in terms of gambling, better to play with your money and your own understanding and decision making instead of leaning things to someone who you need to pay for tips.
That is good advice for everyone because by treating gambling as part of entertainment, we will not try to cross the line by risking more money, especially since we know that gambling is not to make money. We can only play and try to enjoy every gambling game and maybe this will allow us to relax; who knows, we might be lucky to win. But by joining paid groups, you have to spend more money to subscribe to their tips we don't know whether their tips will be accurate or just guessing. And it's better for us to learn to analyze each game by getting more information to improve our abilities in terms of analysis.

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July 14, 2023, 03:46:27 PM
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Yeah when dealing with parlay you needed to be extra careful as the house will attract you with lots of available combinations, if you are good in analyzing with value bets it might give you some good chance of winning decently, a matter of good practices and more on controlling your emotions, just make sure that you understand the game and you are not just placing your bet just because of odds.
^That is definitely right and I agree with you more.
Parlay bets require extra caution and careful analysis and we know this.
Having multiple combinations can be enticing, but it is important to have them with a strategic mindset. Analyzing value bets and having up-to-date information with the team that has match decisions can indeed increase your chances of winning decently. Emotion control plays a crucial role in gambling, as it is important to base your bets on a solid understanding of the game rather than being swayed solely by odds. By practicing good discipline and ensuring you have a thorough grasp of the game dynamics, you can make more calculated and rational betting choices. Remember, responsible gambling involves making to limit ourself while keeping our emotions in check as always.

Noting that statement about always checking yourself, a very important factor that even a sport group are true, it's still your emotional control matters, not all that you think you fully understand will lead you to a win, it's a gamble and we all know what's accompany this venue, a high-risk place for your money right?

Good control and making sure that you are updated with or without any betting group. Your sole decision making should always be on top of everything.

It's like this, if we had control of our emotions, I think we would do or develop great things, among them being able to play and have zero emotions, we would know exactly when we can withdraw from a game and not bet anymore, I personally have learned that when I play anything in a casino and I make a profit, I withdraw and play another day, things like this can also happen in sports betting, I know several telegram groups, most of them are Spanish-speaking groups that give predictions, and when they really make good records of what they predict, offer the group a VIP membership and pay.

I think that in the end everyone is going to want them to enter to lose money, they do something like make customers fall in love, so that they are as profitable as they are, and sports betting has a lot to do with knowing the sport and knowing the skills of the athletes, coach and all.

There is something called Sports Expertise, for example, if we go to football , the appraisal expert will always take into consideration the current state of the players , their current physical conditions and their physical abilities seen in training, making that for each player an analysis is made with performance characteristics, and at the same time when he joins them in the starting team opsble he is able to establish a result through numbers, and that result can be compared with the other team under which the same was done analysis, there you can make a more technical decision based on a professional investigation , now , as these things are very difficult to do in terms of economic capacity, because we have no choice but to be aware of the reports , from the news, how the players are and the information they can provide, there it is already a trial run and being able to determine what is best and how to bet, although on many occasions it is emotions or the favorite team that mostly determines people's bets.

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July 14, 2023, 05:18:09 PM
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Indeed, if you can stay as it is, treating gambling as part of entertainment and not to engage too much to save both time and your money, for sure it's the best decision as you will not be eager to try other options just to have an edge when betting with your favorite sports, to the extent that you'll participate with paid groups thinking that you may have a better chance when tipsters that you pay will give you a sure bet to place your money.

It's not usual or maybe not really existing, there's nothing that accurate and sure in terms of gambling, better to play with your money and your own understanding and decision making instead of leaning things to someone who you need to pay for tips.
Gambling ought not to be a serius means of subsistence. The temptation to cash in fast is there, but the rewards are as fleeting as a puff of smoke. No tipster, regardless of how high their claimed winning rate, can guarantee success every time. Everything comes down to the odds, and sometimes just plain luck.

Its like buying a pig in a poke to pay someone for betting advice. You may think you're gaining an edge, but in reality, you're just wasting money. Its better to rely on your own judgment and figure things out as you go. If you lose, at least youll have learned something that will aid you in the future.

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July 14, 2023, 06:14:38 PM
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Indeed, if you can stay as it is, treating gambling as part of entertainment and not to engage too much to save both time and your money, for sure it's the best decision as you will not be eager to try other options just to have an edge when betting with your favorite sports, to the extent that you'll participate with paid groups thinking that you may have a better chance when tipsters that you pay will give you a sure bet to place your money.

It's not usual or maybe not really existing, there's nothing that accurate and sure in terms of gambling, better to play with your money and your own understanding and decision making instead of leaning things to someone who you need to pay for tips.
That is good advice for everyone because by treating gambling as part of entertainment, we will not try to cross the line by risking more money, especially since we know that gambling is not to make money. We can only play and try to enjoy every gambling game and maybe this will allow us to relax; who knows, we might be lucky to win. But by joining paid groups, you have to spend more money to subscribe to their tips we don't know whether their tips will be accurate or just guessing. And it's better for us to learn to analyze each game by getting more information to improve our abilities in terms of analysis.

That exactly what the intention of my reply, it's also possible for you to do the analysis and relying with your own knowledge instead of paying someone who are a self-proclaimed experts who can deliver a good outcome but in reality there's no accurate result inside gambling, rumors might be around about the game fixers but if they really exist,

I will assume that they will not leak it out for just a small amount of money, else, they will say that it was a leak just to earn bettors trust and burn every penny that will be place from the tips that they've provided.

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July 14, 2023, 06:24:50 PM
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How often have you got that amount because what matters is how consistent it is that you get it. What I understand about prediction sites is that they are not regular in their winning for those who are average in their winning rate but many fall below average yet they still collect fees from subscribers. If you are regular in your winning rates it means you are making additional efforts from what you are getting from the site as prediction.
It's stated that he is making that amount per month, which indicates a level of consistency. If this is indeed true, then I believe he should consider pursuing gambling full-time and leave his job in order to maximize his profits. Earning around $700-$800 per month is noteworthy, but I am also curious to know the size of the bankroll he utilizes for his betting purposes.
I think he mentioned that he gets higher from his main job so he wouldn't make time for this since it is a bad deal leaving something that is earning you more for something that will earn you less, no matter how much money he was using for his bets, if he was managing to make about $800, that's not a bad deal but it is probably just not possible for him to continue because of his main job that takes up most of his time and one definitely gets tired after working a whole day.

I personally think that when you are getting signals from somewhere, you don't really need a lot of time to place your bets, all you need is just a little bit of knowledge about the game and experience as well so that you can at least have an idea that the bet can work and bring you a win successfully.

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July 15, 2023, 04:49:57 AM
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That exactly what the intention of my reply, it's also possible for you to do the analysis and relying with your own knowledge instead of paying someone who are a self-proclaimed experts who can deliver a good outcome but in reality there's no accurate result inside gambling, rumors might be around about the game fixers but if they really exist,

I will assume that they will not leak it out for just a small amount of money, else, they will say that it was a leak just to earn bettors trust and burn every penny that will be place from the tips that they've provided.
There is no accurate result that is true because the situation in the game can change at any time so we must also be aware of this. Thus if we rely on the analysis and knowledge we have, we can learn to improve our ability to analyze so that it will be useful in the future.

So there's no need to bother looking for a sports betting tips group because you have to spend money to be able to subscribe. And if you can have the ability to analyze, that's even better because you don't need or rely on that group of tips. The tips group also doesn't guarantee we can win because we also don't know how they can analyze each game.

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July 20, 2023, 08:44:29 PM
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Gambling ought not to be a serius means of subsistence. The temptation to cash in fast is there, but the rewards are as fleeting as a puff of smoke. No tipster, regardless of how high their claimed winning rate, can guarantee success every time. Everything comes down to the odds, and sometimes just plain luck.

Its like buying a pig in a poke to pay someone for betting advice. You may think you're gaining an edge, but in reality, you're just wasting money. Its better to rely on your own judgment and figure things out as you go. If you lose, at least youll have learned something that will aid you in the future.
And this does not take into account that the edge some sports bettors can get is simply too small, so even if those people could indeed get the profits they claim they can get, someone paying for those signals most likely will fail to get the same results as not only they are paying for the tips, which is an additional handicap they need to beat, but now they also need to apply those tips perfectly and even the smallest mistake will waste their efforts.
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July 20, 2023, 09:07:41 PM
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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

It would be wrong if one makes special comments about such gambling and thinks his strategy is correct for winning. Because no one can say whether gambling will win or lose it is very difficult to say but sometimes some predictions are correct. If a gambler could make a correct prediction, he would definitely bet more money to win in order to change his life. There are some people who are addicted to gambling but they go to different social media to consult people for better experience. There are many telegram groups where gambling predictions are made but very few are correct a wise experienced person can not always win by gambling he also faces losses. I haven't seen any telegram groups where betting calls are made on gambling or whether they are illegal. But if he stays there, he will never share his experiences, he will pray to himself to win the bet.


I believe something if a person wants to give their signals they just give it to you now, without any type of membership or having to pay to obtain some type of special thing to be able to have access to a VIP or premium status, I believe that a person who wants to teach and see that others win, it is because that person is a philanthropist by nature and I think it is very difficult to find, if we look at sports betting groups they can let you in for free, but after About 3 months they Start saying that they need to pay a type of subscription so that they can continue with their programs, etc , so when that is the case, nothing to do , it has already happened to me.

In fact they make two groups, one to give digital Signals and others in manual Signals and in manual signals in the same way if there is no paying for the membership you simply do not earn or have access to the Platform , this is something that we are always going to Find, I have Only come across a group that is a French-Peruvian whose group is free and who always shows his good earnings, this is something that I have always taken into consideration, but of course it is not that everyone wins You lose a lot of time, Traditionally you have to deal with a lot of money so that the party doesn't end.

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July 21, 2023, 06:56:42 AM
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There is no accurate result that is true because the situation in the game can change at any time so we must also be aware of this. Thus if we rely on the analysis and knowledge we have, we can learn to improve our ability to analyze so that it will be useful in the future.

So there's no need to bother looking for a sports betting tips group because you have to spend money to be able to subscribe. And if you can have the ability to analyze, that's even better because you don't need or rely on that group of tips. The tips group also doesn't guarantee we can win because we also don't know how they can analyze each game.
Indeed, there are no accurate results in a bet and of course the predictions still miss a lot which makes many gamblers experience defeat even though they already have predictions that they feel are good.
But at least having predictions from analysis can give gamblers confidence when betting and can make them more satisfied with what is at stake.

It is highly not recommended to join a community or group that makes predictions because it will only make gamblers experience defeat and from such a group it also does not guarantee victory.
It's better to study alone and try to keep predicting until we can have a lot of experience.

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July 21, 2023, 07:15:02 AM
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Indeed, if you can stay as it is, treating gambling as part of entertainment and not to engage too much to save both time and your money, for sure it's the best decision as you will not be eager to try other options just to have an edge when betting with your favorite sports, to the extent that you'll participate with paid groups thinking that you may have a better chance when tipsters that you pay will give you a sure bet to place your money.

It's not usual or maybe not really existing, there's nothing that accurate and sure in terms of gambling, better to play with your money and your own understanding and decision making instead of leaning things to someone who you need to pay for tips.
That is good advice for everyone because by treating gambling as part of entertainment, we will not try to cross the line by risking more money, especially since we know that gambling is not to make money. We can only play and try to enjoy every gambling game and maybe this will allow us to relax; who knows, we might be lucky to win. But by joining paid groups, you have to spend more money to subscribe to their tips we don't know whether their tips will be accurate or just guessing. And it's better for us to learn to analyze each game by getting more information to improve our abilities in terms of analysis.

That exactly what the intention of my reply, it's also possible for you to do the analysis and relying with your own knowledge instead of paying someone who are a self-proclaimed experts who can deliver a good outcome but in reality there's no accurate result inside gambling, rumors might be around about the game fixers but if they really exist,

I will assume that they will not leak it out for just a small amount of money, else, they will say that it was a leak just to earn bettors trust and burn every penny that will be place from the tips that they've provided.

I've once been in a sports prediction group where they were like over 2500 members in the group, but many of the members who are online and chatting were all chatting like they joined just like you yourself joined, but in contrast, they are all working with the scammer who owns the group, their job is to just say positive things about the scammer, give fake reviews of they took the bold step to join the VIP group which usually is a paid group, and they are not regretting it as they are making tons of money from all the prediction shared in to only VIP members, all this testimonies are just to lure you to pay to join the VIP group, once they get your payment for the VIP group, you will be immediately kicked from the group and blocked from rejoining, whenever you manage to contact any member of that group to complain about your issue and try to find out if same happened to them, you will get blocked instantly as well, this is how you will learn that all the testimonies in the group are all fake and that they are all working together..

unfortunately, I was a victim to such scam way back 2017 or so.

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July 21, 2023, 01:45:21 PM
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Indeed, there are no accurate results in a bet and of course the predictions still miss a lot which makes many gamblers experience defeat even though they already have predictions that they feel are good.
But at least having predictions from analysis can give gamblers confidence when betting and can make them more satisfied with what is at stake.

It is highly not recommended to join a community or group that makes predictions because it will only make gamblers experience defeat and from such a group it also does not guarantee victory.
It's better to study alone and try to keep predicting until we can have a lot of experience.
Sometimes, I think of looking up those signal groups and joining to see how they work. But then I remembered that to join the betting group requires a subscription fee which, in my opinion, is not small so I did not look for it. I'd rather use the money to bet based on my abilities rather than rely on other people's signals.

Yes, we should learn to predict by gathering information from places we know and who knows, we can get other places that can provide more valid information. By learning to predict from the information we collect, we can improve our predictive abilities.

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It is highly not recommended to join a community or group that makes predictions because it will only make gamblers experience defeat and from such a group it also does not guarantee victory.
It's better to study alone and try to keep predicting until we can have a lot of experience.

not recommended because it's full of scammers that ask gamblers to pay so that they can get a sure game that enables them to win. There was a situation with one of my guys; he was believing in those gambling groups, and he was winning gradually, not until one day that they gave him a game to bet on and told him to stake it with a huge amount so that the win would be big. He did stake the game with a much larger amount than his usual small amount, but he ended up losing the game, and his money was gone. By the way, even before that game was given to him, he had to pay for it. So, it's not mostly recommended to believe in gambling groups; although I have one of those groups on Twitter that gives games for free, sometimes the winnings are high and sometimes the losses are good. I agree with you.

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July 21, 2023, 05:33:39 PM
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It is highly not recommended to join a community or group that makes predictions because it will only make gamblers experience defeat and from such a group it also does not guarantee victory.
It's better to study alone and try to keep predicting until we can have a lot of experience.

not recommended because it's full of scammers that ask gamblers to pay so that they can get a sure game that enables them to win. There was a situation with one of my guys; he was believing in those gambling groups, and he was winning gradually, not until one day that they gave him a game to bet on and told him to stake it with a huge amount so that the win would be big. He did stake the game with a much larger amount than his usual small amount, but he ended up losing the game, and his money was gone. By the way, even before that game was given to him, he had to pay for it. So, it's not mostly recommended to believe in gambling groups; although I have one of those groups on Twitter that gives games for free, sometimes the winnings are high and sometimes the losses are good. I agree with you.
You both right that there are lots of scammers. But the same time i know that there are some groups where you can get profit. I told before that i was in such a group. If you pay fixed price for predictions - it is 100% scammers. If you pay some percent from your profit - it looks much better. But of course, i don`t recommend to try to join such groups - the probability of the scam is too high.

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July 21, 2023, 06:45:49 PM
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It is highly not recommended to join a community or group that makes predictions because it will only make gamblers experience defeat and from such a group it also does not guarantee victory.
It's better to study alone and try to keep predicting until we can have a lot of experience.

not recommended because it's full of scammers that ask gamblers to pay so that they can get a sure game that enables them to win. There was a situation with one of my guys; he was believing in those gambling groups, and he was winning gradually, not until one day that they gave him a game to bet on and told him to stake it with a huge amount so that the win would be big. He did stake the game with a much larger amount than his usual small amount, but he ended up losing the game, and his money was gone. By the way, even before that game was given to him, he had to pay for it. So, it's not mostly recommended to believe in gambling groups; although I have one of those groups on Twitter that gives games for free, sometimes the winnings are high and sometimes the losses are good. I agree with you.
Most of us already know the limitations of all those sure games predictors because they are all after the subscription and giving the players fake and baseless predicted games selection that has a very low chance of winning at any point and this is why we have to look away from those services that make you pay before giving out their predictions since we already know that there is nothing like sure games anywhere,  but then also we have a few other ones who freely give out they predictions and warn players on the possibility of it and how risky it can become.

More also is the fact that we have to avoid such services that offer any form of services that requires the member to pay a certain amount before they give them free tools,  most of such are scams and plots to take your fee and walk away or offer you garbage call prediction.



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July 21, 2023, 09:51:39 PM
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You both right that there are lots of scammers. But the same time i know that there are some groups where you can get profit. I told before that i was in such a group. If you pay fixed price for predictions - it is 100% scammers. If you pay some percent from your profit - it looks much better. But of course, i don`t recommend to try to join such groups - the probability of the scam is too high.

You are right, there are some that would say you should place the bet, and if you win, they will have some percentage. Those ones seem to be better than the ones where you will have to make a full payment to those scammers, thinking they are real when they are not. The only people I know who can fall victim to this are mostly new gamblers who are always looking for sure ways to make more wins in gambling, but for me, I don't believe it's possible to make such mistakes.

More also is the fact that we have to avoid such services that offer any form of services that requires the member to pay a certain amount before they give them free tools,  most of such are scams and plots to take your fee and walk away or offer you garbage call prediction.

Let new or old gamblers who rely mostly on only those paid services beware, because if it's only for me, where do I even have all the time to go looking for prediction groups?

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July 21, 2023, 10:13:39 PM
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Let new or old gamblers who rely mostly on only those paid services beware, because if it's only for me, where do I even have all the time to go looking for prediction groups?
The thing is that most of those that believe in all this paid speculator group service are mostly newbies who don't know how these so-called scammers behave and how their practice and avoiding them is the best possible way to go because if truly they have a working prediction bet it will be easier for them make all the money from the winning why then do they want to get other involved such as taking fees from people to the supplier they make predictions.



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July 22, 2023, 06:45:12 AM
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I've once been in a sports prediction group where they were like over 2500 members in the group, but many of the members who are online and chatting were all chatting like they joined just like you yourself joined, but in contrast, they are all working with the scammer who owns the group, their job is to just say positive things about the scammer, give fake reviews of they took the bold step to join the VIP group which usually is a paid group, and they are not regretting it as they are making tons of money from all the prediction shared in to only VIP members, all this testimonies are just to lure you to pay to join the VIP group, once they get your payment for the VIP group, you will be immediately kicked from the group and blocked from rejoining, whenever you manage to contact any member of that group to complain about your issue and try to find out if same happened to them, you will get blocked instantly as well, this is how you will learn that all the testimonies in the group are all fake and that they are all working together..

unfortunately, I was a victim to such scam way back 2017 or so.
Ouch that was sad to hear but I believe there are still legit groups out there. If it's a premium one, maybe we can ask for a  sneak peak to know what to expect and to have an immediate judgment if this was a legit group or not or maybe we can only pay a partial amount or pick the lowest plan, if a preview of the group is not possible.

There are still free groups out there which are also great. You can get a good information about the match and everything and maybe there is a similar discussion that can only be found in a forum. That is much better because there is a transparency there and we are sure that none of the members hides something from us.

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July 22, 2023, 07:11:05 AM
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It is highly not recommended to join a community or group that makes predictions because it will only make gamblers experience defeat and from such a group it also does not guarantee victory.
It's better to study alone and try to keep predicting until we can have a lot of experience.

not recommended because it's full of scammers that ask gamblers to pay so that they can get a sure game that enables them to win. There was a situation with one of my guys; he was believing in those gambling groups, and he was winning gradually, not until one day that they gave him a game to bet on and told him to stake it with a huge amount so that the win would be big. He did stake the game with a much larger amount than his usual small amount, but he ended up losing the game, and his money was gone. By the way, even before that game was given to him, he had to pay for it. So, it's not mostly recommended to believe in gambling groups; although I have one of those groups on Twitter that gives games for free, sometimes the winnings are high and sometimes the losses are good. I agree with you.
There is no doubt that there are lots of fraudsters in groups or betting prediction communities who charge for each prediction, but these predictions are just baseless guesses or random predictions.
In Telegram there are usually quite a lot of groups or communities like that and usually they only contain fake accounts created by the admin so that they can entice gamblers to buy these predictions.
I myself would rather use the money to bet on the predictions that I make than use the money to buy predictions that are not clear.

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July 22, 2023, 07:41:55 AM
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Let new or old gamblers who rely mostly on only those paid services beware, because if it's only for me, where do I even have all the time to go looking for prediction groups?
The thing is that most of those that believe in all this paid speculator group service are mostly newbies who don't know how these so-called scammers behave and how their practice and avoiding them is the best possible way to go because if truly they have a working prediction bet it will be easier for them make all the money from the winning why then do they want to get other involved such as taking fees from people to the supplier they make predictions.
Well, some will lie to you by telling you the reason why they are giving picks or predictions to interested gamblers is because they themselves win too much, and have been either limited or banned by majorly all the casinos they are interested playing on.

Ive come across one of such persons on this forum, from Dm, we moved over to having a chat on telegram, he claimed he makes over $50k to $100k profit every week from betting on fixed matches, i became curious to know why he's interested in taking fee he wants to take from me if he really makes that much every week, shouldn't.. he be contented with how wealthy he already is... He then told me what i said above, that most casinos have either limited or banned him, and he loves gambling and cant stop, so keep himself active as a gambler, he gives out fixed matches to interested gamblers for a fee, in my mind, i was like, "this guy thinks  am either a kid or a fool"  Grin

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July 22, 2023, 08:25:45 AM
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Let new or old gamblers who rely mostly on only those paid services beware, because if it's only for me, where do I even have all the time to go looking for prediction groups?
The thing is that most of those that believe in all this paid speculator group service are mostly newbies who don't know how these so-called scammers behave and how their practice and avoiding them is the best possible way to go because if truly they have a working prediction bet it will be easier for them make all the money from the winning why then do they want to get other involved such as taking fees from people to the supplier they make predictions.
Well, some will lie to you by telling you the reason why they are giving picks or predictions to interested gamblers is because they themselves win too much, and have been either limited or banned by majorly all the casinos they are interested playing on.
They come with different tactics trying to advance over their victims who are not smart enough to think twice. This very tactics I uncovered was in my very early beginning as a gambler, had this guy I met at the bet house in the course of our gambling we talked I told him I was new to gamble and he offered to give me a number I should chat with that the guy is a professional who I can be getting reliable predictions from, free for the first trial then thereafter I have to be paying for the subsequent.

Behold the first predictions played out well for me, I got captivated and paid a good sum for the next and decided to use big amount to wager unfortunately I lost that very one, and same thing with those that followed. I wasted alot in buying fake predictions and staking high on them in hopes. It was later I uncovered that the very guy I met at the bet house was working together with this same so-called professional he introduced me to. It was all business for them.

 I won't say there ain't genuine prediction groups but they're like 1 out of 5 and this makes it hard to get involved cause the genuine ones are not made public or pronounced like the fake ones are.
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