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September 14, 2023, 05:35:04 PM |
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However, finding verified groups can provide good information is hard. Usually, these groups are not shared publicly; only a small percentage of people know about them. Most people will join the free group and get an offer to join the VIP group, which is claimed to be very experienced in sports betting and has a higher rate of winning accuracy. This makes many people fooled by VIP groups like that because they don't get what they want but are only deceived by the offers given to them. They must be aware that there are many VIP groups like that on Telegram, and they cannot find them easily, rather than having to experience fraud like that, they should start trying to learn to analyze it themselves. This will improve their analytical skills so they can be better and they will not depend on any groups.
It is really true. In such free(not always) groups without any results we can find VIP groups with the same results but for money. And the gambler that was cheated in such group doesn`t want to lose money twice and sure that all groups are cheaters. And he is right about the main part of such groups and his chances to find real group that makes really good predictions is really small. So i can`t recommend anybody to try to find such groups, but they are real. PS. Today`s prediction from real group: Football. Babite vs AFA Olaine-2 19:00 Latvia. 3rd League. Center Babite wins. Odd - 3+ My bet was 1x with the odd 4.05. 10 minutes left.
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Hirose UK
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September 14, 2023, 05:51:13 PM |
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No game is a guarantee for winning, there's no such deal unless there's an inside job that control the game, rumors are everywhere but there's nothing who can prove that kind of guarantee, and like you it's better to take your chance using your own idea and understanding than to add money to risk in paying those paid services which still not a sure bet and just an idea coming from another gambler who called themselves an expert.
It's for real then they will never share that formula and they will keep it and continue to abuse that knowledge to win more from the bookies.
The idea behind those sport bet groups is basically the same you can encounter on trading signals groups and the results are the same, with anyone that takes seriously what they read there losing their money, as it makes no sense at all for anyone that has the knowledge to beat the bookies to share that with anyone, at best I could see those people sharing that knowledge with their family members once they are limited on most casinos, but I do not think they will ever let an outsider enjoy the fruits of their labor. This is clearly different because in trading we can learn for sure whether what is shared with the group can really be trusted and has the opportunity to make a profit or not because in trading it is clear that the hype and buying and selling volume of what will. Is different from betting 90% of the time there are uncertain results and even so many unreasonable results occur there that saying that betting groups with the same trading signals is not a correct assumption. However with the idea that trusting a betting group can lose the money spent I really agree and it seems that there is no benefit in trusting too much or relying on predictions shared in betting groups. One thing that is certain but makes many people feel lazy is actually studying everything for the sake of knowledge and experience in betting or predicting results can be more useful than just joining a betting group.
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September 14, 2023, 07:02:13 PM |
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However, finding verified groups can provide good information is hard. Usually, these groups are not shared publicly;
This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. In sports betting, the odds increase or decrease based on the data that bookmakers obtain every hour, minute or day or week. for example, if there is a Liverpool game against Manchester City, Manchester City, being a team with a good squad, will be seen as favorites by the bookmakers, but if at the time of announcing the squad that will play, Manchester City puts all or some of their best players on the bench, then the bookmakers will immediately lower Manchester City's odds value and it could even happen that Liverpool becomes favorite in the game, so the odds value has nothing to do with having or not have a large number of bettors Now about this issue of groups having options for free tips and paid tips, this is not advantageous, what happens is that the guy who owns the group gives only 1 or 2 free tips and tells people that if they want more tips they must pay membership to he can send more tips and the tips he sends does not guarantee that they will be accurate and in most cases these group owners keep sending tips on games that have low odds like 1.20, honestly what is the point of people spending 80$ paying membership to receive game tips with odds of 1.20? This doesn't make any sense in my opinion, it's not profitable to bet on games with odds of 1.20 my advice is that people learn to analyze games on their own and not depend on other people, it's not a good thing to be dependent, imagine if the guy in the group who gives tips gets sick and gives up giving tips as they get people who become dependent on his tips? And how could a person consider themselves a sports bettor when they cannot analyze a game and place a bet on their own? In my opinion, people should not trust groups or advice from other people. should analyze and bet on their own
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Odusko
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September 14, 2023, 07:19:31 PM |
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One thing that is certain but makes many people feel lazy is actually studying everything for the sake of knowledge and experience in betting or predicting results can be more useful than just joining a betting group.
Is there even any sure sport betting group, the answer is none because most at times, what is left for many os the analysis they have to support any form of predictions they already conceived in their mind, there is no gain saying how unpredictable sports match results could be, but more also we have to realize the other fact that combining multiple analysis could help us in predicting the right team, so for that, such groups are reduced to only speculations and analysis group and nothing more than that. If any of such group requests a fee to join or payment before providing you with a so-called sure bet you should know that it will end up as a scam in the end.
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September 14, 2023, 07:57:20 PM |
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However, finding verified groups can provide good information is hard. Usually, these groups are not shared publicly;
This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. I don't know, but this thing about private groups and public groups when it comes to online betting, that's like cheating. I've followed several people where they say they enter their private group where they have the VIP signals and after 1 month they start to say that they have to pay a monthly fee to remain in the group, and many times I neither play nor follow the bets because the predictions they made did not match, they were not right, out of 10 predictions that were only 2 were right, so that does not work for me Because if I had done all those things he said, I would still have been left with my negative sado, I didn't do it, so that's not viable, and what I think.
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DaNNy001
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September 14, 2023, 08:36:08 PM |
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However, finding verified groups can provide good information is hard. Usually, these groups are not shared publicly;
This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. I don't know, but this thing about private groups and public groups when it comes to online betting, that's like cheating. I've followed several people where they say they enter their private group where they have the VIP signals and after 1 month they start to say that they have to pay a monthly fee to remain in the group, and many times I neither play nor follow the bets because the predictions they made did not match, they were not right, out of 10 predictions that were only 2 were right, so that does not work for me Because if I had done all those things he said, I would still have been left with my negative sado, I didn't do it, so that's not viable, and what I think. What do you expect from these groups they do strategy of their just to extort people from their little fund as for me I believe that these channels are not as good as they claim because I have partake in some of these and they also prove to have VIP section in most of them where you will be required to even pay a bigger amount just to get some sure odds which always turn badly.
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ChuckBuck
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September 14, 2023, 08:58:17 PM |
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In sports betting, the odds increase or decrease based on the data that bookmakers obtain every hour, minute or day or week. for example, if there is a Liverpool game against Manchester City, Manchester City, being a team with a good squad, will be seen as favorites by the bookmakers, but if at the time of announcing the squad that will play, Manchester City puts all or some of their best players on the bench, then the bookmakers will immediately lower Manchester City's odds value and it could even happen that Liverpool becomes favorite in the game, so the odds value has nothing to do with having or not have a large number of bettors Now about this issue of groups having options for free tips and paid tips, this is not advantageous, what happens is that the guy who owns the group gives only 1 or 2 free tips and tells people that if they want more tips they must pay membership to he can send more tips and the tips he sends does not guarantee that they will be accurate and in most cases these group owners keep sending tips on games that have low odds like 1.20, honestly what is the point of people spending 80$ paying membership to receive game tips with odds of 1.20? This doesn't make any sense in my opinion, it's not profitable to bet on games with odds of 1.20 my advice is that people learn to analyze games on their own and not depend on other people, it's not a good thing to be dependent, imagine if the guy in the group who gives tips gets sick and gives up giving tips as they get people who become dependent on his tips? And how could a person consider themselves a sports bettor when they cannot analyze a game and place a bet on their own? In my opinion, people should not trust groups or advice from other people. should analyze and bet on their own Sure, bookmakers adjust odds based on real-time data, and everyone should know that. Mcity vs. Liv, any novice can deduce that player lineup changes impact odds. But I'll give you credit for pointing out the obvious. And yes, "betting tip" groups. Do people really fall for this? It's almost hillarious ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) . And paying $80 for a 1.20 odds tip? Pathetic, Only the dumb would fall for that. I'm amazed these group owners manage to find people to scam. But hey, more fool them for falling for it. If you're going to give advice, at least make it less predictable. And if you're betting, be smart - don't rely on tips and certainly don't rely on the ignorance of others. But what do I know? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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September 15, 2023, 09:56:50 AM |
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This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. Yes, they won't tell the public, and it's better for them to get the benefits for the benefit of their group. They can get a lot of wins, and we know that they are really there and can already win in many games. They also won't be careless in inviting people to join; only people they already know can get an invitation. We should be looking for that group, but it won't be easy. They can completely hide themselves from the public. And it is true that the public's bets tend to lose, and the bets of that group most often win. ~snip~
It is really true. In such free(not always) groups without any results we can find VIP groups with the same results but for money. And the gambler that was cheated in such group doesn`t want to lose money twice and sure that all groups are cheaters. And he is right about the main part of such groups and his chances to find real group that makes really good predictions is really small. So i can`t recommend anybody to try to find such groups, but they are real. PS. Today`s prediction from real group: Football. Babite vs AFA Olaine-2 19:00 Latvia. 3rd League. Center Babite wins. Odd - 3+ My bet was 1x with the odd 4.05. 10 minutes left. Yes, we know that group is a real thing. But unfortunately, we will never have them anywhere because they don't say it to the public and also don't make a public offer. We often find groups that claim to be from VIP groups and create free groups by inviting many people to join and provide their predictions. And if people want to get more accurate predictions, they have to join its VIP group by paying a certain subscription fee. But that also won't guarantee someone can win in many matches. Where do you get that prediction? I am curious with that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 15, 2023, 12:01:33 PM |
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It is really true. In such free(not always) groups without any results we can find VIP groups with the same results but for money. And the gambler that was cheated in such group doesn`t want to lose money twice and sure that all groups are cheaters. And he is right about the main part of such groups and his chances to find real group that makes really good predictions is really small. So i can`t recommend anybody to try to find such groups, but they are real. PS. Today`s prediction from real group: Football. Babite vs AFA Olaine-2 19:00 Latvia. 3rd League. Center Babite wins. Odd - 3+ My bet was 1x with the odd 4.05. 10 minutes left. Yes, we know that group is a real thing. But unfortunately, we will never have them anywhere because they don't say it to the public and also don't make a public offer. We often find groups that claim to be from VIP groups and create free groups by inviting many people to join and provide their predictions. And if people want to get more accurate predictions, they have to join its VIP group by paying a certain subscription fee. But that also won't guarantee someone can win in many matches. Where do you get that prediction? I am curious with that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I`ve got it in one VIP group ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is joke of course ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I`ve told before, may be even in this thread, that i was in one real group where i`ve got good predictions with the nice odds. We paid the part of the profit, so the owners were interested in our success. Yesterday i just asked for few fresh predictions to my last post. PS. It doesn`t mean that someone need to join such groups again and again. It will help him to lose money only.
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September 15, 2023, 12:33:18 PM |
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This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. Yes, they won't tell the public, and it's better for them to get the benefits for the benefit of their group. They can get a lot of wins, and we know that they are really there and can already win in many games. They also won't be careless in inviting people to join; only people they already know can get an invitation. We should be looking for that group, but it won't be easy. They can completely hide themselves from the public. And it is true that the public's bets tend to lose, and the bets of that group most often win. Most of the legitimate groups are those that know which games are fixed. If they only rely on their skills, there's still no assurance that a particular bet will win. They might win most of the time, but I don't think they would encourage disciplined bankroll management, as it may not help them maximize their profit. I believe the larger the bets bettors place, the more they can earn, similar to a commission based on winning bets. However, if a bet loses, they bear no responsibility. Finding such groups is indeed difficult, so it's often better to believe in yourself and learn from your mistakes. Who knows, you might improve and eventually become profitable.
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However, finding verified groups can provide good information is hard. Usually, these groups are not shared publicly; only a small percentage of people know about them. Most people will join the free group and get an offer to join the VIP group, which is claimed to be very experienced in sports betting and has a higher rate of winning accuracy. This makes many people fooled by VIP groups like that because they don't get what they want but are only deceived by the offers given to them. They must be aware that there are many VIP groups like that on Telegram, and they cannot find them easily, rather than having to experience fraud like that, they should start trying to learn to analyze it themselves. This will improve their analytical skills so they can be better and they will not depend on any groups.
It is really true. In such free(not always) groups without any results we can find VIP groups with the same results but for money. And the gambler that was cheated in such group doesn`t want to lose money twice and sure that all groups are cheaters. And he is right about the main part of such groups and his chances to find real group that makes really good predictions is really small. So i can`t recommend anybody to try to find such groups, but they are real. PS. Today`s prediction from real group: Football. Babite vs AFA Olaine-2 19:00 Latvia. 3rd League. Center Babite wins. Odd - 3+ My bet was 1x with the odd 4.05. 10 minutes left. The question is not if there are groups and if these actually get it right sometimes, it is more about if there is a group that will get it consistently right and not only that, they have to get it consistently right by a significant percent above what someone could get it right just by using the most basic logic or a simplistic method. I distrust groups in general.
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~snip~
This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. Yes, they won't tell the public, and it's better for them to get the benefits for the benefit of their group. They can get a lot of wins, and we know that they are really there and can already win in many games. They also won't be careless in inviting people to join; only people they already know can get an invitation. We should be looking for that group, but it won't be easy. They can completely hide themselves from the public. And it is true that the public's bets tend to lose, and the bets of that group most often win. Most of the legitimate groups are those that know which games are fixed. If they only rely on their skills, there's still no assurance that a particular bet will win. They might win most of the time, but I don't think they would encourage disciplined bankroll management, as it may not help them maximize their profit. I believe the larger the bets bettors place, the more they can earn, similar to a commission based on winning bets. However, if a bet loses, they bear no responsibility. Finding such groups is indeed difficult, so it's often better to believe in yourself and learn from your mistakes. Who knows, you might improve and eventually become profitable. It hard to find those kinds of groups who knows what game are fixed, I'm just hearing it and thinking that it's just a rumor and whoever part of that group they for sure maximizing the potential win, if does exist, there are a huge amount of money that involves, imagine how many people you need to pay for you to manipulate the game. Better to stick with your own knowledge and understanding instead of aiming for joining or paying with such offers, which is still not a guarantee that they can convert a win for your money.
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September 15, 2023, 05:01:50 PM |
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Point taken: while there may be groups that believe in maximizing profits through dubious means, its important to approach the world of betting with caution. Betting, at its heart, should be about skill, research, and a bit of luck. Relying on a supposed "fixed game" is quite... pathetic
Your comment on bankroll management are right. True, bigger bets might mean bigger returns, but they also mean bigger risks. Its like to putting all your eggs in one basket and then being surprised when the basket breaks.
As for the idea of self-reliance, I'm right there with you. The best teacher often is experience. Every mistake, every loss, and every win shapes you, refining your strategy and instincts. So, tread wisely, and may the odds ever be in your favor.
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This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. Yes, they won't tell the public, and it's better for them to get the benefits for the benefit of their group. They can get a lot of wins, and we know that they are really there and can already win in many games. They also won't be careless in inviting people to join; only people they already know can get an invitation. We should be looking for that group, but it won't be easy. They can completely hide themselves from the public. And it is true that the public's bets tend to lose, and the bets of that group most often win. Most of the legitimate groups are those that know which games are fixed. If they only rely on their skills, there's still no assurance that a particular bet will win. They might win most of the time, but I don't think they would encourage disciplined bankroll management, as it may not help them maximize their profit. I believe the larger the bets bettors place, the more they can earn, similar to a commission based on winning bets. However, if a bet loses, they bear no responsibility. Finding such groups is indeed difficult, so it's often better to believe in yourself and learn from your mistakes. Who knows, you might improve and eventually become profitable. It hard to find those kinds of groups who knows what game are fixed, I'm just hearing it and thinking that it's just a rumor and whoever part of that group they for sure maximizing the potential win, if does exist, there are a huge amount of money that involves, imagine how many people you need to pay for you to manipulate the game. Better to stick with your own knowledge and understanding instead of aiming for joining or paying with such offers, which is still not a guarantee that they can convert a win for your money. Finding those groups would be almost impossible or totally on which they cant just surfaced out on which it would be known on public which we know that legal issues might be faced if ever theres a smoke leaking. This is why its better not to make yourself that mindful about these groups and be relying on whatever those so-called fix matches that they would be giving.We know that there are lots of false or fake groups that lurking around on which trying out to fool out bettors that they do have some fix informations or bets which arent really that true or legit at all. It is really just that common sense that those information or bets arent that legit and it would be much better if you do make your own and would be choosing on which one would really suit you out and never intend to follow others recommendations. On the time that a certain bet was a lose then you wont really be having that kind of regret because it was your choice to make and not theirs.
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September 15, 2023, 09:57:48 PM |
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Point taken: while there may be groups that believe in maximizing profits through dubious means, its important to approach the world of betting with caution. Betting, at its heart, should be about skill, research, and a bit of luck. Relying on a supposed "fixed game" is quite... pathetic
Relying on the fixed game is something I believe is all a lie but there are real sports bet groups where the mod provides the bet code of the game he forecasts and also bets on. Although, the mod seems to be good in sports analysis and betting but they also lose big something. Your comment on bankroll management are right. True, bigger bets might mean bigger returns, but they also mean bigger risks. Its like to putting all your eggs in one basket and then being surprised when the basket breaks.
Honestly, bankroll management is something I don't joke about as a gambler and I never like the idea of going big in other to win a bigger return. As for the idea of self-reliance, I'm right there with you. The best teacher often is experience. Every mistake, every loss, and every win shapes you, refining your strategy and instincts. So, tread wisely, and may the odds ever be in your favor.
Yes but not in every case because there are gamblers whose mistake, and losses are what shapes them into addict and bankrupt.
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September 15, 2023, 10:10:07 PM |
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This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top. That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling. Yes, they won't tell the public, and it's better for them to get the benefits for the benefit of their group. They can get a lot of wins, and we know that they are really there and can already win in many games. They also won't be careless in inviting people to join; only people they already know can get an invitation. We should be looking for that group, but it won't be easy. They can completely hide themselves from the public. And it is true that the public's bets tend to lose, and the bets of that group most often win. Most of the legitimate groups are those that know which games are fixed. If they only rely on their skills, there's still no assurance that a particular bet will win. They might win most of the time, but I don't think they would encourage disciplined bankroll management, as it may not help them maximize their profit. I believe the larger the bets bettors place, the more they can earn, similar to a commission based on winning bets. However, if a bet loses, they bear no responsibility. Finding such groups is indeed difficult, so it's often better to believe in yourself and learn from your mistakes. Who knows, you might improve and eventually become profitable. It hard to find those kinds of groups who knows what game are fixed, I'm just hearing it and thinking that it's just a rumor and whoever part of that group they for sure maximizing the potential win, if does exist, there are a huge amount of money that involves, imagine how many people you need to pay for you to manipulate the game. Better to stick with your own knowledge and understanding instead of aiming for joining or paying with such offers, which is still not a guarantee that they can convert a win for your money. Yeah I agree with you, finding a legit betting group could actually seem impossible because there are lot of groups which offers betting games but at last the person will end up losing out, what most betting groups normally do is to get some wining bets pictures from other platform and post it on there own group to lure people coming to subscribe with them knowing fully well that most people always love easy ways of getting something, which has actually lead to many victims of wrong betting group. So the best way is just focusing on the little knowledge someone can predict for himself because in the game of betting nobody is perfect one could Actually improve and figure out a strategy that could actually favor him instead of relying on betting group.
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I`ve got it in one VIP group ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is joke of course ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I`ve told before, may be even in this thread, that i was in one real group where i`ve got good predictions with the nice odds. We paid the part of the profit, so the owners were interested in our success. Yesterday i just asked for few fresh predictions to my last post. PS. It doesn`t mean that someone need to join such groups again and again. It will help him to lose money only. Hahaha, you are making a joke. If possible, you can create a new thread containing those predictions so that we can also benefit from them ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Finding the VIP group is difficult, especially with the subscription fee, which may not be cheap. Those who want to keep looking for the VIP group must be prepared for all the possibilities. And if they are hesitant about joining any VIP groups, they shouldn't have to. ~snip~
Most of the legitimate groups are those that know which games are fixed. If they only rely on their skills, there's still no assurance that a particular bet will win. They might win most of the time, but I don't think they would encourage disciplined bankroll management, as it may not help them maximize their profit. I believe the larger the bets bettors place, the more they can earn, similar to a commission based on winning bets. However, if a bet loses, they bear no responsibility. Finding such groups is indeed difficult, so it's often better to believe in yourself and learn from your mistakes. Who knows, you might improve and eventually become profitable. I agree that it is better to learn independently and believe in yourself, especially with your analysis. By learning on our own, we can at least try to develop our analytical skills to be even better, and we also don't need to spend money to pay subscription fees. It's okay if we lose a match because we may miss information, so our analysis is less precise in predicting who will win. But that's gambling, where we really need always to improve our analytical skills.
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September 16, 2023, 07:25:15 PM |
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Yeah I agree with you, finding a legit betting group could actually seem impossible because there are lot of groups which offers betting games but at last the person will end up losing out, what most betting groups normally do is to get some wining bets pictures from other platform and post it on there own group to lure people coming to subscribe with them knowing fully well that most people always love easy ways of getting something, which has actually lead to many victims of wrong betting group.
So the best way is just focusing on the little knowledge someone can predict for himself because in the game of betting nobody is perfect one could Actually improve and figure out a strategy that could actually favor him instead of relying on betting group.
Good point and that's really happening there are betting groups that posted other prediction especially those winning prediction to allure those people/gambler who always aiming for quick benefits, gambler who don't want to spend time to do research and deeper study with the kind of sports that they wanted to place their bets. Most of the time if not always, they are victims of so-called expert prediction which lead them to lose more instead of the money that they only use for betting but the payment for betting group that's no guarantee that will convert something for them.
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Odusko
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September 16, 2023, 07:44:31 PM |
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However, finding verified groups can provide good information is hard. Usually, these groups are not shared publicly; only a small percentage of people know about them. Most people will join the free group and get an offer to join the VIP group, which is claimed to be very experienced in sports betting and has a higher rate of winning accuracy. This makes many people fooled by VIP groups like that because they don't get what they want but are only deceived by the offers given to them. They must be aware that there are many VIP groups like that on Telegram, and they cannot find them easily, rather than having to experience fraud like that, they should start trying to learn to analyze it themselves. This will improve their analytical skills so they can be better and they will not depend on any groups.
It is really true. In such free(not always) groups without any results we can find VIP groups with the same results but for money. And the gambler that was cheated in such group doesn`t want to lose money twice and sure that all groups are cheaters. And he is right about the main part of such groups and his chances to find real group that makes really good predictions is really small. So i can`t recommend anybody to try to find such groups, but they are real. PS. Today`s prediction from real group: Football. Babite vs AFA Olaine-2 19:00 Latvia. 3rd League. Center Babite wins. Odd - 3+ My bet was 1x with the odd 4.05. 10 minutes left. Just curious to know if anyone follow up with any legit football betting group, even though we know how hard it is to fine such groups, a lot have gone in search to finding such groups that offers sport betting tips odds speculations and predictions, this should not include any form of fees fron the gamblers end to join such groups and beside that also we have to know that in most cases, those speculations groups are not sure of 100% accuracy in some cases. This also includes any predictions coming out from those groups at least the few I have followed have proven not to be effective and the only advantage of being a member of the group is the free analysis we share over there with individual contributions.
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mak013
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September 18, 2023, 07:33:23 AM |
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The question is not if there are groups and if these actually get it right sometimes, it is more about if there is a group that will get it consistently right and not only that, they have to get it consistently right by a significant percent above what someone could get it right just by using the most basic logic or a simplistic method. I distrust groups in general. As i said, i`ve got several months about $800 per month due to these predictions. I could get more, i think, but i have to spend much time on the main job. There several men who get $3000-4000 per month in this group. ~snip~
Hahaha, you are making a joke. If possible, you can create a new thread containing those predictions so that we can also benefit from them ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Finding the VIP group is difficult, especially with the subscription fee, which may not be cheap. Those who want to keep looking for the VIP group must be prepared for all the possibilities. And if they are hesitant about joining any VIP groups, they shouldn't have to. I can`t do it. It was just an example of daily predictions in one of the real groups. There are different strategies. Some groups searching such matches, other search difference between odds that different bookies gives us, some others have other ways to get profit. But it is possible, that such groups work due to their small quantity. In other way it can become a serious problem for bookies. ~
Just curious to know if anyone follow up with any legit football betting group, even though we know how hard it is to fine such groups, a lot have gone in search to finding such groups that offers sport betting tips odds speculations and predictions, this should not include any form of fees fron the gamblers end to join such groups and beside that also we have to know that in most cases, those speculations groups are not sure of 100% accuracy in some cases. This also includes any predictions coming out from those groups at least the few I have followed have proven not to be effective and the only advantage of being a member of the group is the free analysis we share over there with individual contributions. I don`t know about it. I paid percent from the profit. It is normally to pay for job as for me. And it was no any other fees. Of course it wasn`t 100% winning, but due to high odds and winrate higher 50% i`ve got profit every month.
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