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September 23, 2023, 03:24:13 PM
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I wonder why many people believe that there is a tool or application that can win at gambling, the application developer will definitely not share or even sell the application to anyone because he wants the "bug" to be active forever to get bigger wins at gambling, if we realize that then developers sell trash apps to gamblers who believe in fake algorithms to win gambling.

Just a simple analysis, and we will understand why there is no such tool that would help us win. If we are talking about exploiting a gambling site, that's not going to happen as they are one step ahead of us. I guess we should just focus on a certain type of games, a game where you don't have to deal with the house. You know, like sports betting. I think it's way more realistic to be profitable here in the long run than playing games that have a high house edge. We know the house will kill our chances in the long run; that's how simple math works.

 
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September 23, 2023, 04:11:30 PM
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I wonder why many people believe that there is a tool or application that can win at gambling, the application developer will definitely not share or even sell the application to anyone because he wants the "bug" to be active forever to get bigger wins at gambling, if we realize that then developers sell trash apps to gamblers who believe in fake algorithms to win gambling.

Just a simple analysis, and we will understand why there is no such tool that would help us win. If we are talking about exploiting a gambling site, that's not going to happen as they are one step ahead of us. I guess we should just focus on a certain type of games, a game where you don't have to deal with the house. You know, like sports betting. I think it's way more realistic to be profitable here in the long run than playing games that have a high house edge. We know the house will kill our chances in the long run; that's how simple math works.

The owner of the gambling sites is one step advantage to us which means we a normal gambler we are always the losser even though we will win sometimes but still it's not enough to get back out losses. And we don't have good AI to make our bet successfuly the winner cause once it will caught from the owner of the casino then one thing for sure the user or gambler will face consequences. So in the other hand gamblers always the losser .
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Everyone can make his own choice. Without this app you can`t get the profit from this group. But the same time you can lose all you data using this app.
As for me - it isn`t a problem for me to make a virtual PC without any information except the minimum i need for gambling.
I don't want to use any application that could cause me to lose all my data on my PC or cellphone. It's not worth doing, so we really have to be careful if we want any applications. And it seems that it is not worth it because installing applications from that group is so that we can get the benefits, but we risk losing our data. It's better to find out the match information yourself and analyze it according to our abilities so that we won't experience any problems.
If you are concerned about your data being compromised, you can always have an extra PC dedicated to gambling. That is, if you truly believe that the application will help you win. You know, when you want to win in gambling and you see an opportunity, you will find ways to make it possible while also minimizing the risks, no matter what your fears are.
Most of the time on which each one of us would really be that mindful about on their personal identities or simply their privacy on which if there's really that a potential risks on exposing those information then it would really be turning out to be a bad thing and would really be tending to avoid.Although, there would really be those people who dont really mind as long the thing that they've been tending to engage is on what they are really that looking for or really that pursuing on which their identities and exposing it wont really be that much of an issue. Speaking about real sports bet groups then i dont really believe that much and its never been that ideal nor a good thing to give out that subs fees just to get some betting picks or tips on which you could really eventually make your own. So there's no point on paying up something which you could eventually make on your own.
Speaking about fixed matches or something in correlation? I dont think so that these type of information would really be easily be surfacing out. There's no way that it would really be just simply be known by an ordinary person about those fixed or rigged games because we know that on whose people are really that behind into those kind of schemes in behind and wont really be easily be leaking out i would say.
Therefore, dont make yourself that easily get believed on what those groups are promising because most of them are really that scams or frauds.

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September 24, 2023, 10:49:48 AM
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If you are concerned about your data being compromised, you can always have an extra PC dedicated to gambling. That is, if you truly believe that the application will help you win. You know, when you want to win in gambling and you see an opportunity, you will find ways to make it possible while also minimizing the risks, no matter what your fears are.
Actually there are no additional applications or tools to help win at gambling, you should avoid using the application even if you have another PC because if the gambling system can detect a user of a prohibited application, sanctions will be imposed on your account. However, most gambling applications from third parties often detect data theft viruses and these applications do not work to win any gambling, so avoid using prohibited applications and if you ever use that application, immediately activate the anti-virus to detect the history of your PC activity.

I wonder why many people believe that there is a tool or application that can win at gambling, the application developer will definitely not share or even sell the application to anyone because he wants the "bug" to be active forever to get bigger wins at gambling, if we realize that then developers sell trash apps to gamblers who believe in fake algorithms to win gambling.

Which I believe also add up additional risk with your money, if you use additional apps and the house detect that chances that they will freeze your account and not going to let you withdraw your money is possible, there are things that can be used by the house to prevent you to take the money out in case there's certain application that can help you with the certain game that you'll going to play, users and agreement mostly have that such kind of rules that house have the right to implement something if they found suspicious activities in your account.

Best to focus on your own knowledge both with sports and any game of luck casino games, instead of using an app or participating with paid groups that don't have any assurance to deliver a win.

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September 24, 2023, 11:22:44 AM
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Best to focus on your own knowledge both with sports and any game of luck casino games, instead of using an app or participating with paid groups that don't have any assurance to deliver a win.

Focus on sports, yes, but say no to games of luck because they will never give us a good chance of winning. That's why they're called games of luck, as the house edge will always win, not every day, but in the long run. Since we as gamblers don't stop when we are winning or losing, the end result will always be us losing. So, just treat games of luck as a fun activity, while games of skill as a job. They should be treated differently.

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September 24, 2023, 02:07:35 PM
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If you are concerned about your data being compromised, you can always have an extra PC dedicated to gambling. That is, if you truly believe that the application will help you win. You know, when you want to win in gambling and you see an opportunity, you will find ways to make it possible while also minimizing the risks, no matter what your fears are.
Actually there are no additional applications or tools to help win at gambling, you should avoid using the application even if you have another PC because if the gambling system can detect a user of a prohibited application, sanctions will be imposed on your account. However, most gambling applications from third parties often detect data theft viruses and these applications do not work to win any gambling, so avoid using prohibited applications and if you ever use that application, immediately activate the anti-virus to detect the history of your PC activity.
Sometimes such applications will cause us problems such as viruses compromising the software we use or even hacking the data we have because it has been compromised and we can also experience problems in casinos as you have mentioned if the casino prohibits their use from the application will cause the account to be suspended or worse yet blocked by freezing the entire remaining balance.
It better to always bet on your own abilities and rely on luck that can come at any time.

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I wonder why many people believe that there is a tool or application that can win at gambling, the application developer will definitely not share or even sell the application to anyone because he wants the "bug" to be active forever to get bigger wins at gambling, if we realize that then developers sell trash apps to gamblers who believe in fake algorithms to win gambling.
Usually some people do not use applications but some kind of artificial intelligence like Al and many people exaggerate and consider Al as a tool to be able to win games or bets and people like this will not join betting groups that advertise in some media but will personally use Al abilities.
I don't know whether Al can guarantee victory for sure but in my opinion relying on Al is not the right choice.

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September 24, 2023, 02:50:39 PM
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If you are concerned about your data being compromised, you can always have an extra PC dedicated to gambling. That is, if you truly believe that the application will help you win. You know, when you want to win in gambling and you see an opportunity, you will find ways to make it possible while also minimizing the risks, no matter what your fears are.
I thought so too, and maybe I'll rent a VPS to try it out so that if something happens, it's not on my PC, so my data is still safe. But if the application is from the internet, we have to be more careful because I had a bad experience before. After all, I downloaded an application I didn't know, which caused me to have to reinstall my OS.

But what you say is true because when we see an opportunity to win, we will try it to see the results. High curiosity will suddenly come and tell us to take the risk by trying it. But if it is not accompanied by analysis, we will not win easily.

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Best to focus on your own knowledge both with sports and any game of luck casino games, instead of using an app or participating with paid groups that don't have any assurance to deliver a win.

Focus on sports, yes, but say no to games of luck because they will never give us a good chance of winning. That's why they're called games of luck, as the house edge will always win, not every day, but in the long run. Since we as gamblers don't stop when we are winning or losing, the end result will always be us losing. So, just treat games of luck as a fun activity, while games of skill as a job. They should be treated differently.
Games of luck only for fun and not for skills and earning. But if you have luck and you win then you will be jubilating. Anyone that is joining groups to win gambling is just wasting their time. Gambling is a personal business and not a group work. If gambling was a group work Lotto gamblers would have earned enough money because I have seen people given numbers to Lottery game users to play and at the end they still loss out. As you said, it is better for someone to gamble in sports and normal casinos.

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Best to focus on your own knowledge both with sports and any game of luck casino games, instead of using an app or participating with paid groups that don't have any assurance to deliver a win.

Focus on sports, yes, but say no to games of luck because they will never give us a good chance of winning. That's why they're called games of luck, as the house edge will always win, not every day, but in the long run. Since we as gamblers don't stop when we are winning or losing, the end result will always be us losing. So, just treat games of luck as a fun activity, while games of skill as a job. They should be treated differently.
I get your point and thank you for sharing,  I mean, better to focus with sports betting as chances  might be higher compared to casino games that mostly based on luck, if you can take extra time to study and learn more about the sport, and with the help of online access you can increase your knowledge about the game, and anticipating the possible outcome of the game might increase your confidence to place your bet.

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Everyone can make his own choice. Without this app you can`t get the profit from this group. But the same time you can lose all you data using this app.
As for me - it isn`t a problem for me to make a virtual PC without any information except the minimum i need for gambling.
I don't want to use any application that could cause me to lose all my data on my PC or cellphone. It's not worth doing, so we really have to be careful if we want any applications. And it seems that it is not worth it because installing applications from that group is so that we can get the benefits, but we risk losing our data. It's better to find out the match information yourself and analyze it according to our abilities so that we won't experience any problems.
If you can analyze yourself and have stable profit from sport bets - of course you don`t need any additional software. It is for someone who wants to get profit and don`t know how to do it. And, as i said, there are different groups with different ways of getting profit. Some of them don`t need any software. And of course even if we decide to use some unknown software we must do everything is possible to secure ourselves.
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September 25, 2023, 11:53:45 AM
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I wonder why many people believe that there is a tool or application that can win at gambling, the application developer will definitely not share or even sell the application to anyone because he wants the "bug" to be active forever to get bigger wins at gambling, if we realize that then developers sell trash apps to gamblers who believe in fake algorithms to win gambling.
Just a simple analysis, and we will understand why there is no such tool that would help us win. If we are talking about exploiting a gambling site, that's not going to happen as they are one step ahead of us. I guess we should just focus on a certain type of games, a game where you don't have to deal with the house. You know, like sports betting. I think it's way more realistic to be profitable here in the long run than playing games that have a high house edge. We know the house will kill our chances in the long run; that's how simple math works.
Most gamblers don't go towards sports betting because they know it requires knowledge and experience and they don't have that. When you are playing a gambling game, all you have to do is decide the size of the bet, the odds if the game allows that, and just click a button, and boom, the result is in front of you. It's very simple and easy to do which is not the case with sports betting, you can't be successful in sports betting if you don't have a lot of experience in a certain sport.

That's why we find a higher percentage of gamblers to be attracted more towards gambling games than sports betting because it is easier and requires no knowledge and experience and the results are instant, whether you are lucky or unlucky is known within a matter of seconds without having to wait.
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September 25, 2023, 02:37:00 PM
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If you can analyze yourself and have stable profit from sport bets - of course you don`t need any additional software. It is for someone who wants to get profit and don`t know how to do it. And, as i said, there are different groups with different ways of getting profit. Some of them don`t need any software. And of course even if we decide to use some unknown software we must do everything is possible to secure ourselves.
He doesn't need to rely on additional tools to analyze every match. That's the point of learning to analyze sports betting because we can't depend forever on these prediction tools or groups. We should analyze it ourselves so that we can gain experience as well as improve our analytical skills. Hiring developers to develop additional tools useful for getting more information about a match would be better because we can get it from developers we trust. But if not, it is better not to use tools other than our analytical skills.

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September 25, 2023, 02:43:48 PM
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I get your point and thank you for sharing,  I mean, better to focus with sports betting as chances  might be higher compared to casino games that mostly based on luck, if you can take extra time to study and learn more about the sport, and with the help of online access you can increase your knowledge about the game, and anticipating the possible outcome of the game might increase your confidence to place your bet.
Sportsbetting definitely is much better than just casino, and if I may add, there's a statistics that College Football has the best sportsbetting winning chance, I have read an article although I can't find it but it definitely says College Football although no reason was given. Also it's much better for you to do sportsbetting on the selected sports if you really like playing the sports yourself and not just because you want to bet on it and that you've done extensive research on it.
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Sportsbetting definitely is much better than just casino, and if I may add, there's a statistics that College Football has the best sportsbetting winning chance, I have read an article although I can't find it but it definitely says College Football although no reason was given. Also it's much better for you to do sportsbetting on the selected sports if you really like playing the sports yourself and not just because you want to bet on it and that you've done extensive research on it.
I partly disagree with you. When playing in a casino, interaction occurs between the player (and other players in particular) and the casino (it doesn’t matter the gaming machine or the croupier). That is the player directly participates in the game process. When betting on sports, this does not happen because the player is an extra. Nothing depends on the player except choosing who to bet on; I do not consider the ability to analyze information (previous matches, game form, etc.).
You used “college football” as an example. I believe that the lower the level of professionalism, the higher the chance of match-fixing.
It was precisely this kind of fraud that the topicstarter implied with his question: direct deception, match-fixing. Cappers are evil.

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I wonder why many people believe that there is a tool or application that can win at gambling, the application developer will definitely not share or even sell the application to anyone because he wants the "bug" to be active forever to get bigger wins at gambling, if we realize that then developers sell trash apps to gamblers who believe in fake algorithms to win gambling.
Just a simple analysis, and we will understand why there is no such tool that would help us win. If we are talking about exploiting a gambling site, that's not going to happen as they are one step ahead of us. I guess we should just focus on a certain type of games, a game where you don't have to deal with the house. You know, like sports betting. I think it's way more realistic to be profitable here in the long run than playing games that have a high house edge. We know the house will kill our chances in the long run; that's how simple math works.
Most gamblers don't go towards sports betting because they know it requires knowledge and experience and they don't have that. When you are playing a gambling game, all you have to do is decide the size of the bet, the odds if the game allows that, and just click a button, and boom, the result is in front of you. It's very simple and easy to do which is not the case with sports betting, you can't be successful in sports betting if you don't have a lot of experience in a certain sport.

That's why we find a higher percentage of gamblers to be attracted more towards gambling games than sports betting because it is easier and requires no knowledge and experience and the results are instant, whether you are lucky or unlucky is known within a matter of seconds without having to wait.
Making up some sports bet on just simply having those kind of steps then you arent just that different on playing dice or slots. lol. Sooner or later you would really be able to find out the relevance of having that proper knowledge and experience towards sports betting on which you could really be able to lessen up the risks of losing if you do really know on how to choose up and able to compare with those stats and past events or fights on which you could really make out those comparisons and this is a typical approach when you do make out some sports betting.

Also, it would really be always that recommendable that you shouldn't really be making yourself that reliant into those so called groups which promising out that huge winning rate?
I dont think that it would really be just that legit because come to think that if you are really that making money then why would really be bothering yourself on making a group
and trying out to accept those subs fees which are just that low and something that you could easily earn? It doesnt really make any sense.

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September 26, 2023, 06:39:31 AM
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If you can analyze yourself and have stable profit from sport bets - of course you don`t need any additional software. It is for someone who wants to get profit and don`t know how to do it. And, as i said, there are different groups with different ways of getting profit. Some of them don`t need any software. And of course even if we decide to use some unknown software we must do everything is possible to secure ourselves.
He doesn't need to rely on additional tools to analyze every match. That's the point of learning to analyze sports betting because we can't depend forever on these prediction tools or groups. We should analyze it ourselves so that we can gain experience as well as improve our analytical skills. Hiring developers to develop additional tools useful for getting more information about a match would be better because we can get it from developers we trust. But if not, it is better not to use tools other than our analytical skills.
I`m talking not only about analyze but about different ways of getting profit from sport betting. We can compare odds that different bookies give us on one event. Sometimes one bookie gives w1 odd 4(for example), and another bookie gives x2 odd 5. So we can get profit anyway if we bet both. But you can`t search online such mistakes manually. And there are other ways to get profit that need software.

So if we are talking only about prediction - we don`t need any software - just internet and lots of free time.
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I`m talking not only about analyze but about different ways of getting profit from sport betting. We can compare odds that different bookies give us on one event. Sometimes one bookie gives w1 odd 4(for example), and another bookie gives x2 odd 5. So we can get profit anyway if we bet both. But you can`t search online such mistakes manually. And there are other ways to get profit that need software.

So if we are talking only about prediction - we don`t need any software - just internet and lots of free time.

You are referring to arbitrage betting, and no, it's hard to win with that kind of betting if you don't have a decent amount of bankroll. Don't expect to get a difference of at least +100... maybe 1 to 5% is already a good difference that you can exploit. It does not have risk, but it's time-consuming if you don't have enough capital, so I suggest you fulfill that first if you want to try this. Of course, there's a system for doing it as manually can be more like a waste of time, and you won't be able to find the best arbitrage opportunities.

 
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September 26, 2023, 12:51:35 PM
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I`m talking not only about analyze but about different ways of getting profit from sport betting. We can compare odds that different bookies give us on one event. Sometimes one bookie gives w1 odd 4(for example), and another bookie gives x2 odd 5. So we can get profit anyway if we bet both. But you can`t search online such mistakes manually. And there are other ways to get profit that need software.

So if we are talking only about prediction - we don`t need any software - just internet and lots of free time.

You are referring to arbitrage betting, and no, it's hard to win with that kind of betting if you don't have a decent amount of bankroll. Don't expect to get a difference of at least +100... maybe 1 to 5% is already a good difference that you can exploit. It does not have risk, but it's time-consuming if you don't have enough capital, so I suggest you fulfill that first if you want to try this. Of course, there's a system for doing it as manually can be more like a waste of time, and you won't be able to find the best arbitrage opportunities.

I think there's also risk with arbitrage betting, house might detect you from doing it and they can freeze your account, as we know gambling is a business and not a cash-cow for gambler, once they find you doing this type of gambling they will tag you doing a suspicious kind of betting and there you go it's against the terms and conditions.

And it's true the difference is just a little percentage, but if you have that time and you are willing to take the risk knowing what are the possibilities once you succeed in cashing out your winning then it's good to go.

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September 26, 2023, 02:01:03 PM
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Best to focus on your own knowledge both with sports and any game of luck casino games, instead of using an app or participating with paid groups that don't have any assurance to deliver a win.

Focus on sports, yes, but say no to games of luck because they will never give us a good chance of winning. That's why they're called games of luck, as the house edge will always win, not every day, but in the long run. Since we as gamblers don't stop when we are winning or losing, the end result will always be us losing. So, just treat games of luck as a fun activity, while games of skill as a job. They should be treated differently.
Games of luck only for fun and not for skills and earning. But if you have luck and you win then you will be jubilating. Anyone that is joining groups to win gambling is just wasting their time. Gambling is a personal business and not a group work. If gambling was a group work Lotto gamblers would have earned enough money because I have seen people given numbers to Lottery game users to play and at the end they still loss out. As you said, it is better for someone to gamble in sports and normal casinos.

Sometimes we cannot leave things to luck in sports Betting , mostly I know that sports Betting depends a lot on our Knowledge, so it is not nice to leave everything in the hands of luck, I don't say anything if we go into a casino, and We can play Any type of Machine, be it slot machines, roulette, whatever we play, well yes, Everything is in the hands of the good luck that we could have at some point, for the rest I think that things Depend a lot on how it is played , how to bet , but in the Specific case of Sports bets I see it as similar to trading than Anything else , so in this Order of Ideas, it can be Said that yes, there may be some types of groups where some predictions about the sports games that have been associated, then if we can do something else, for example, enter a group where they give the results and have an efficiency of 90%, for me it is acceptable, because a 10%, well maybe 10% for me is It is acceptable to have losses, but winning 90% is enough for me, however it Should be Above Average.

When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.

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September 26, 2023, 02:15:45 PM
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When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.

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