Is it allowed to post in English in a Local Section

[Rikafip]

In general, Spanish speaking people find it endearing when a foreigner tries to communicate in our language, it may be the opposite in other board, though. I assume.

It's pretty much the same thing in other local boards, as I've used Google translate to communicate with members in other locals, and non Croatian speakers used it to communicate in my local board and no one really mind it.

I don't think no one would mind if you make an ocassional post in English on local boards either (at least we didn't mind when someone did that) as long as you don't overdo it and start spamming.

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[Spaceman1000$]

There is a reason why it's been referred to as local board, first i think is for you to check the rules of the local board, if you can post on your local language or English language. Because i feel most local board is to help discuss or ask questions in a way your locals can easily understand your line of thoughts and respond adequately.
So if the rules says, both English and local language is acceptable then that's fine but if it's otherwise then follow suit, as long as is in line with the forum rules.

[SmartGold01]

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

I know many people already contributed but I will only want to share my own part of my understanding so far..

I will start by using our local board as a case study which happens to be Nigeria, in our board we had lots of people speaking our local pidgin language or lemme say almost 70 to 90 percent of posters are using pidgin language while the rest are just using their simple English language that is readable by other members across the forum. This has nothing to do with either someone posting out of language but as a local board all we need is; Do not spam, Do not copy and paste, and Do not post out of context meaning all post must be meaningful and carrying the information needed as long as it's verified and certified then such person is (are) free to post it the local board.

Though there are some local board that is mainly with their local post, meaning there will be no other language apart from the appointed language to posting with, in such local board anyone who post using English language such post may be deleted or the person must post it with the authorized local language all less such persons are not willing to post in the board or are not conversant with language then they may use google translator  ( this are mainly for visitors, meaning those that are not from that local board) but are wanting to read and communicate with those in the local's then such person's has some specific time and limits him or she may post there.
 

[Mpamaegbu]

But a local board, to me, will be more interesting if the natives of the place can communicate in their respective languages; that's what makes it a local board, so that they themselves will be the ones who could possibly understand themselves better.

That's the way I see it too. You too sabi wetin dey. Yes, I agree that each local board has its own rule and if it's strictly stated what medium/media of exchange is (are) allowed, it shouldn't be an issue writing in another language other than the country's local language. Like you stated, communicating in one's local language acts does have it advantages as a unifying factor and drives the message home faster than when English is used. Also, writing in English language in local exposes the board to spam posting from those (lurkers) who aren't completely in the know of the main gist at hand but would want to contribute to complete weekly quota. I would prefer code-mixing to outright writing/speaking in English.

[leonair]

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Local board is basically created for local communication of a country and there are different rules for local board but there are many local board also see English post but I don't know how logical it is. I think since the local board consists only of people from the local country, it is reasonable to use the language of your country there. Maybe some local boards use English for their personal reasons or purposes and I don't have the knowledge or information to explain them, so I'm not making any deep comments yet here.

[virasog]

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Local board is basically created for local communication of a country and there are different rules for local board but there are many local board also see English post but I don't know how logical it is. I think since the local board consists only of people from the local country, it is reasonable to use the language of your country there. Maybe some local boards use English for their personal reasons or purposes and I don't have the knowledge or information to explain them, so I'm not making any deep comments yet here.

Many countries treat English as a second language and most of the people in those countries can easily understand and speak English. So I don't think there should be any problem if English posts are mixed with the local language posts (as long as the local board people have no objection to it). 

Technically, we are allowed to post in English, but it is recommended to use the local language in the local board, especially the locals who have a grip on the local language should promote their language.

[uchegod-21]

Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

Local board is basically created for local communication of a country and there are different rules for local board but there are many local board also see English post but I don't know how logical it is. I think since the local board consists only of people from the local country, it is reasonable to use the language of your country there. Maybe some local boards use English for their personal reasons or purposes and I don't have the knowledge or information to explain them, so I'm not making any deep comments yet here.

One of the unique features of bitcointalk is the ability of the users to communicate in their various local languages. And that is why local boards were created.
The creator of bitcoin talk forum understand that it is not everyone that knows how to use the English language. In order that language will not be a barer in knowing about bitcoin. He therefore created different local boards for different countries and languages

So if there be any country that has a local language and still understand English, it will be fine that they maintain both the local language and English language. Some countries have too many languages that are not unified. Then they were colonized by the British and it now seems like English is their major language, that is the reason you see such happening.

[EFS]

If you have a question for Turkish people or about Türkiye you can ask English in our local board. These are rare occasions but I let these posts to stay. Some examples from first few pages would be these:
Thanks Türkiye.
Bitcoin Wallet with Turkish seed words, what is it?

Just as you cannot write in your native language in English boards, you cannot write in English in local boards, otherwise your post will be deleted.

[leonair]

If you have a question for Turkish people or about Türkiye you can ask English in our local board. These are rare occasions but I let these posts to stay. Some examples from first few pages would be these:
Thanks Türkiye.
Bitcoin Wallet with Turkish seed words, what is it?

Just as you cannot write in your native language in English boards, you cannot write in English in local boards, otherwise your post will be deleted.

I found that most of the topics in local boards in India are also in English. so I don't see any problem in using English on local boards. I don't think anyone else would have a problem if the local community members accept English as their topic and I have not found anything in any of the local board rules that says English cannot be used in the local board. But if the local community members do not accept English and if they report the post it may get deleted so it is better not to use English on local boards.

[Sim_card]

I don't think that it is a crime to post in English on local boards. However,it also depends on the kind of local board because I guess that all local boards have their own rules. If you go to your local board and English is highly prohibited then there is no big deal for you to post in your local language. But if English isn't prohibited then you can post base on your choice of language either local language or in English language. I don't see this as a problem,if you are in Rome,behave like a Roman and if you are in France behave like a French man.

[aysg76]

But if the user continues to do so then he will get posts deleted after moderator action or could have warning also.Because local board may not prohibit from posting in English but if all members are making conversation in their local language you should take part in the same manner but if you want to post in English then there are general boards to do so.

Out of curiosity what happens to posts made on the English board using a local language??

If the board members are native English speaker then they wouldn't understand what's he's saying.They will need to use translation tools which is not so much appreciated so it will be deleted.But on the contrary ir in local language some user post in English it may have some replies.

[Rikafip]

I found that most of the topics in local boards in India are also in English. so I don't see any problem in using English on local boards. I don't think anyone else would have a problem if the local community members accept English as their topic and I have not found anything in any of the local board rules that says English cannot be used in the local board. But if the local community members do not accept English and if they report the post it may get deleted so it is better not to use English on local boards.

Indian local board is a specific case because they have more than 20 official languages and English is among them. Since it would be a total chaos to use so many official langauges, they agreed to use English. At least that's the explanation given to me by once of their members as I was also curious about them using English.

I don't think anyone else would have a problem if the local community members accept English as their topic and I have not found anything in any of the local board rules that says English cannot be used in the local board

I don't think that anyone would mind if an outside member leave ocassional post in English (at least members of my local board don't mind) but I don't think any local board members will like it if their local board is swarmed with posts written in English.

[skarais]

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I don't think that anyone would mind if an outside member leave ocassional post in English (at least members of my local board don't mind) but I don't think any local board members will like it if their local board is swarmed with posts written in English.

Once in a while it's okay, I've got some merit source non local boards have make post in English on local Indonesian board with English. That's fine, especially since it's only occasionally on one occasion when they need to address some of the issues being discussed about them.

I can give an example like @Ratimov has posted 2x on my local board so far this year:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5041461.msg62510745#msg62510745
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253221.msg61883355#msg61883355

But I also don't think it would be bad if the poster uses GT to post occasionally in Bahasa Indonesia as an act of politeness. This was done by @fillippone a few years ago in my thread.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209309.msg56060143#msg56060143

[Wapfika]

If you have a question for Turkish people or about Türkiye you can ask English in our local board. These are rare occasions but I let these posts to stay. Some examples from first few pages would be these:
Thanks Türkiye.
Bitcoin Wallet with Turkish seed words, what is it?

Just as you cannot write in your native language in English boards, you cannot write in English in local boards, otherwise your post will be deleted.

I found that most of the topics in local boards in India are also in English. so I don't see any problem in using English on local boards. I don't think anyone else would have a problem if the local community members accept English as their topic and I have not found anything in any of the local board rules that says English cannot be used in the local board. But if the local community members do not accept English and if they report the post it may get deleted so it is better not to use English on local boards.

The purpose of local board is to discuss using local language or else it should be posted on global if you want a discussion in global language format. Posting pure english language and discuss in english language defeat the purpose of having a local board imho.

Also you are quoting a statement by EFS that clearly stated that posting English Language will be deleted once done on his local board except for those thread that he post which is a question for Turkish people from non Turkish people. I believe this case is really acceptable but for a local members discussed in English on Local board is not acceptable except on some countries that has multiple language or English is common language too like India and Nigeria.

[FatFork]

But I also don't think it would be bad if the poster uses GT to post occasionally in Bahasa Indonesia as an act of politeness. This was done by @fillippone a few years ago in my thread.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209309.msg56060143#msg56060143

The issue with Google Translate (or any other machine translator) is that it can generate complete gibberish translations, causing a complete loss of meaning. In my opinion, when you find yourself in a situation where you don't know the local language and need to communicate on a local forum board, it's best to stick with English. As a gesture of courtesy to the local members, it may be a good idea to provide both the original English version and the translated content.

[skarais]

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The issue with Google Translate (or any other machine translator) is that it can generate complete gibberish translations, causing a complete loss of meaning. In my opinion, when you find yourself in a situation where you don't know the local language and need to communicate on a local forum board, it's best to stick with English. As a gesture of courtesy to the local members, it may be a good idea to provide both the original English version and the translated content.

Of course, GT will not always help to post in lokal languages, moreover they don't understand local languages ​​at all because in the end they just make a lot of words in it which are difficult to understand the intent and purpose. Similarly local users post in English, when they don't understand a little bit of English, then they are posters who only make it difficult for others to understand their posts.

[jokers10]

Also you are quoting a statement by EFS that clearly stated that posting English Language will be deleted once done on his local board except for those thread that he post which is a question for Turkish people from non Turkish people. I believe this case is really acceptable but for a local members discussed in English on Local board is not acceptable except on some countries that has multiple language or English is common language too like India and Nigeria.

Most local boards are for languages and not for countries. India, Nigeria, Philippines and Scandinavia are exceptions. Spanish is spoken in dozens of countries and even if any of them there will be any other popular language it doesn't mean that it is welcomed in Spanish section. Many of languages presented in Local boards sections are spoken in different countries: Arabic, French, German, Russian, etc. If you want to speak Romansh which is one of the official languages in Switzerland along with German, French and Italian, it would be not good to go to any of these three sections, it would be right to open a separate topic for Romansh language or for Switzerland as a country in an Other languages/locations section.

Of course most active users in local sections are friendly, but it doesn't mean any should go and speak some other language than mentioned in the board name if it is not a regional board like for India, Nigeria, Philippines and Scandinavia. If there's something important and urgent, then it's okay. But just better not to do so too often.

[Rikafip]

But I also don't think it would be bad if the poster uses GT to post occasionally in Bahasa Indonesia as an act of politeness. This was done by @fillippone a few years ago in my thread.

I've been doing the same thing from time to time (like once every few months) on other local boards and never had issues whatsoever, and others were doing in our local board. As long as you are not overdoing it, (probably) no one will object.

The issue with Google Translate (or any other machine translator) is that it can generate complete gibberish translations, causing a complete loss of meaning. In my opinion, when you find yourself in a situation where you don't know the local language and need to communicate on a local forum board, it's best to stick with English.

I think results depend a lot on the kind of language you are using. If you are using bunch of slang and idioms, Google translate will have issues and it will result in gibberish, but as long as you are sticking to clear and properly written sentences (which I am doing when using translate to write on other local boards)  Google will do a pretty decent job.

[jokers10]

I think results depend a lot on the kind of language you are using. If you are using bunch of slang and idioms, Google translate will have issues and it will result in gibberish, but as long as you are sticking to clear and properly written sentences (which I am doing when using translate to write on other local boards)  Google will do a pretty decent job.

Nevertheless despite English is not my mother tongue I see from time to time that some forum users make silly mistakes typical for automated translators, and it looks like they don't understand English enough to catch those mistakes. Not blaming anyone as firstly my English is far from fluent as well and secondly automatedly translated texts in English are clear enough.

But if to look at the posts in other languages made with automated translation, they're not as good. Sometimes mistakes left by translator make text unclear or understood wrongly. Automated translators are not so perfect for many languages, they let you understand main sense of a text, but not make it perfect with a perfect grammar.

[joker_josue]

I think results depend a lot on the kind of language you are using. If you are using bunch of slang and idioms, Google translate will have issues and it will result in gibberish, but as long as you are sticking to clear and properly written sentences (which I am doing when using translate to write on other local boards)  Google will do a pretty decent job.

That's right.
When an automatic translator is used, you cannot speak as if with another person of the same language. You should use short and direct sentences. Simple phrases without very specific expressions that only exist in our language.

Of course, it will never be perfect, but in most cases it will have the ideal quality for a good conversation.