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June 28, 2023, 11:15:08 AM
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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

I don't think that will be the case. But spreading misinformation like this could spread as a FUD. No, it won't end. First, the scope is only at australia. Second, it lies under the casinos, bitcointalk forum is a forum where people share ideas and networks. It won't end there so stop overcomplicating simple and misunderstood information. Bitcointalk I believe is a great platform for beginners and for those experts to interact with others.

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June 28, 2023, 11:27:38 AM
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This is rather country specific, OP.
Besides, even if gambling ads are banned or limited in some sense there are still ways vulnerable people could be affected by gambling, when they are not in the age of partaking it.

For example, we can talk about the loot boxes in video games or the streamers in YT and other platforms, what is the point to ban those ads in a context when children and teens have more access than ever to internet and alternative way of finding people gambling onlive?

At least those ads during a sport match make sense and it is more suitable in the context of people being into sportbetting.

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June 28, 2023, 11:31:06 AM
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As I've said many times before, if you remove advertising from the media, it will definitely appear elsewhere, most likely on the Internet, and in places where the authorities can't reach, so I believe that fighting gambling in the media is a waste of resources. At the moment the advertisers get paid for the number of times an advertisement is viewed by a certain audience, so I'm more than sure that the one who is targeted by this advertisement will see it anyway.



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June 28, 2023, 11:32:39 AM
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I don't think that banning gambling ads is the right way forward, and I don't understand why it's targeting online gambling ads specifically. Gambling addiction is a problem, but not something that affects the majority of gamblers. In this regard, it's similar to alcohol, although the latter harms the body of a drinker physically and can lead to worse consequences. I googled the online advertising policy for alcohol in Australia, and it's not banned but is somewhat restricted. They could, IMO, do the same with gambling ads.
In any case, it's just a proposal that might not get adopted, and if it does, it's only about Australia and only about ads in Australia. So I think it won't affect much of the marketing and activities of crypto casinos we see on this forum.

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June 28, 2023, 11:49:27 AM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
Online casinos are big sponsors and organizers of sporting events, of which I don't think a sporting event will be televised live without they running their ads, as that's the only way they get exposure and make money to keep sponsoring those sporting events. So if the Australian parliaments may not have been okay by it and wishes to implement a ban on ads about online gambling casinos, that's literary their business and have absolutely nothing to do with Bitcointalk or any of it's casinos, as I don't think any is Australian-centered base but operates globally.

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June 28, 2023, 11:56:14 AM
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Sure, the worries about online betting are clear. But, a total ad ban on all media platforms seems extreme. Consider the ripple effects, folks. Regarding Bitcointalk casinos, its crucial to separate the laws for traditional media and online forums. How do you enforce such a ban on a global forum with varying jurisdictions? Also, an ad ban doesnt necessarily kill all promotion on forums like Bitcointalk. Expect a strategic shift with casinos engaging directly with users instead of straightforward ads.

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June 28, 2023, 12:20:05 PM
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It's possible that certain countries or regions may impose restrictions on the promotion of online gambling platforms, including those on Bitcointalk.
What kind of restrictions? Only what can be effective is for a country to ban gambling directly. The gambling sites on this forum are not even providing gambling services to people in the countries that ban gambling. But as for gambling ads or gambling promotion, that is not going to work. People will always visit this forum as long as they have their VPN and Tor on their device.
Agreed, in this regard a specific country is mentioned. Moreover, gambling is still not legal in many countries where there is no direct advertisement in the media. This is nothing new and the government of a country can ban gambling if they wants to do. But gambling is no longer a small business. It has now become a large industry. Even if it is banned in one region, its influence is growing worldwide. But I think that even if gambling ads are banned in national media, it will be very difficult to remove them from online.

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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Let say its applicable on all country then maybe since there will be a huge chance that those casino owners will find another way to market their business. And shifting to crypto casino will be there another option since they can use any crypto platforms to advertise their casino as well maybe there will be no government can bother them by doing this.

Also I don't think this forum will get affected in that implementation and also don't get worried about it since I believe that suggestion will never happen to that particular or even including to other country since somehow gambling industry brings a lot of money to them.

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June 28, 2023, 12:47:54 PM
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OP is not fully aware of the influence of Bitcointalk, and he undermines it, its only Australia I don't think there is a big concern at all, even big countries like China or the US cannot stop the casino industry from growing, Bitcointalk gambling section is already fully established that if only one country it will not have an impact on Bitcointalk and the whole online casino industry.






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June 28, 2023, 12:48:23 PM
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The news you provided about is ban online gambling ads in Australia, but you're relating it with this forum, now do you think all of users in this forum are Australian? the fact is this forum following the US laws, not Australian laws. Whenever the Australia want to ban online gambling ads, there's no effect to Bitcointalk since there's no laws in US to ban online gambling ads.

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June 28, 2023, 01:09:47 PM
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The news you provided about is ban online gambling ads in Australia, but you're relating it with this forum, now do you think all of users in this forum are Australian? the fact is this forum following the US laws, not Australian laws. Whenever the Australia want to ban online gambling ads, there's no effect to Bitcointalk since there's no laws in US to ban online gambling ads.
The proposal to ban gambling ads in Australia is mainly because of the increase in number of gamblers not up to the qualified gambling age. Since ads and promotions are not age selective, when gambling platforms and casino websites make advertisement, it also attracts young people who can easily want to gamble as it attracts the qualified in age too. In Australia, it is possible that the number of gambling advertisement has increased that is not becoming dangerous to the lawmakers are trying to control it, but the situation is not the same in other places of the world. So if gambling ads are banned in Australia, it will not have an effect in this forum, only gambling platforms and media platforms under the country will be bound to obey.
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June 28, 2023, 01:17:09 PM
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OP is not fully aware of the influence of Bitcointalk, and he undermines it, its only Australia I don't think there is a big concern at all, even big countries like China or the US cannot stop the casino industry from growing, Bitcointalk gambling section is already fully established that if only one country it will not have an impact on Bitcointalk and the whole online casino industry.
Yeah almost casinos in this forum use Curacao gambling license and they're prohibit people who live in US, China and other strict or private countries, but as we can see the demand of online casinos is still big. If there's a weak gambling license that not prohibit any countries, online casino will become very big because there's no limit for any countries to gamble.

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This is just in Australia. It wil help younger people not be exposed to casinos. Even google ban gambling related ads and I think facebook as well.  But think if the ban includes the influencers, then influencers on social media will be affected and will lose casino sponsors.

Bitcointalk is different platform for advertising. I doubt it will affect the crypto advertising here. This is a specific crypto community.


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June 28, 2023, 01:35:58 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

It won't affect bitcointalk I don't think there are much casino operating from Australia on the forum unless the government target bitcointallk specifically then the forum has to willing restrict their members in Australia not to be available to view ads relating to online casinos.

Those the government of Australia are targeting are platforms like Google and YouTube that operate in the country and television commercial with that of radios as well. They'll have to avoid allowing gambling ads on their stations also doing sport games as they said.

Gambling has it negative effects and if it can't be contained then the solution is a ban as the government of Australia are suggesting. They could work out a solution to allow those ads while not endangering their citizens but that'll have to be done will the ads are still banned.

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Bro, you need to know that the gambling industry existed before you were born into this world, estimated around 2300 BC. Maybe gambling wasn't the same as it is now, now it's sophisticated, people can bet online and use crypto currency, but from the past until now no one has been able to get rid of gambling advertisements, on the contrary gambling advertisements are wider and bigger.

You do not have the authority and power to prohibit gambling advertisements, even though you descend from the seventh heaven.



Bitcointalk is not a means and the main thing in gambling advertising, this gambling existed long before Bitcointalk was created in 2009, it seems you have to read and see this one news about: Top Social Media platforms and Policy Updates regarding Gambling Advertising.

A brief description of gambling advertising.
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* Meta has over 3 billion monthly active users and is one of the most prominent targets for advertisers. Its streaming functionality is less robust than that of YouTube or Twitch. However, users can still drop gambling-related text, images, and video posts on their timelines.

* Twitch has held the top spot among the popular streaming platforms for online gamers and esports players. Also, you can find creators with millions of followers streaming, reviewing, or promoting brands and games.

* TikTok to Launch In-App Games

* Twitter Maintains Its Extensive Policy

* Google Treads Softly, Takes Ads for Horse Racing



If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
Not sure in that regard, the conclusion or the answer is below in the quote.

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Crafting the best iGaming content marketing strategies requires considering these policies. It starts with the platform you wish to use, whether it is Facebook, Twitch, TikTok, Twitter, or Google. These social media channels have different standings regarding betting-related advertising.

Gambling Isn’t Going Away, But Policies Have Become More Stringent.

I hope you understand advertising and the consequences of banning gambling ads on Bitcointalk.

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June 28, 2023, 02:14:24 PM
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Did you know if there are many countries forbid gambling, but the casino is accept those countries and there's no problem if they want to gamble.

Did you know if there are many countries have banned Bitcoin on everything e.g. buy, sell, mine and hold, but this forum still accept those countries and theymos created local board for them.

So what's it mean? other country laws can't intervene this forum.

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June 28, 2023, 02:19:18 PM
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each country makes laws and prohibitions based on the creation of well being of its citizens, I don't know anything about gambling in australia and for that reason I had to resort to google, I did a little research to understand why politicians want to adopt these measures, as I could see from various sources that I could read and that the gambling situation in australia is something very serious and worrying, to have a little idea, in this article:

Gambling Addiction in Australia: Highest Percentage of Gamblers in the World

Australians have already been accused of being the guys who are most addicted to gambling, I don't know to what extent these data can be true because politicians, when they don't want something, use TV channels and newspapers to manipulate information and create fear, terror, uncertainty and panic in people. only a person who lives in australia could tell us if this is really true or not, according to that article it says that more than 80% of the population of australia participates in games of chance, but it seems to me that this is not true, because the australia has 25.69 million people, it is not possible that another 20.00 million people are gambling

looking at this, I see something very wrong with the decision of these politicians, they will blame gambling because they probably don't want gambling in their country and not because gambling is a problem, with that OP you can see that in other countries in the world where people are more free, there is no problem in gambling and their governments are fine with that, so don't transform astralia's problem for the whole world

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June 28, 2023, 03:16:45 PM
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The government may ban gambling advertisements in all media, but that will not stop gambling advertisements from appearing in other media, especially since the spread of the internet is now getting better. Casinos can find a place to promote, and maybe they can further expand their business from a new place.

And if it's true that the ban will be enforced, I don't think it will matter because people will be able to find those gambling ads again or have already found a casino that suits them, so they don't have to look for another one. And I don't think it will impact Bitcointalk because this forum is independent and not bound by anything.

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Did you know if there are many countries forbid gambling, but the casino is accept those countries and there's no problem if they want to gamble.
Yes, it's true that there are many countries out there that prohibit gambling, but some casinos still accept citizens of these countries to play gambling there.
But there are also not a few casinos that prohibit certain jurisdictions, it's just that this prohibition also has reasons that are quite clear so that gamblers from those countries really cannot play at casinos that have jurisdictions that prohibit them.
It's just that gamblers also have other ways that are quite risky, such as using PVN so that the IP address is not detected in which country the gambler lives.

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June 28, 2023, 03:28:56 PM
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I don't know anything about gambling in australia and for that reason I had to resort to google, I did a little research to understand why politicians want to adopt these measures, as I could see from various sources that I could read and that the gambling situation in australia is something very serious and worrying, to have a little idea, in this article:

Gambling Addiction in Australia: Highest Percentage of Gamblers in the World

Australians have already been accused of being the guys who are most addicted to gambling, I don't know to what extent these data can be true because politicians, when they don't want something, use TV channels and newspapers to manipulate information and create fear, terror, uncertainty and panic in people.
Thanks for the brief research you just made, letting us know what may have been the likely reason behind the ban motion made by the Australian parliament on gambling ads. And I also made my research checking if poverty might have also contributed to this increase in gambling addiction, and I got to find out that of the 26million population in Australia, more than 13% lives in poverty (i.e over 3,319,000, including 761,000 children), which is also likely to be the cause for those who might have seen gambling as the last hope of the common man due to governments failure to provide the basic needs of life and jobs to get the people to engage in meaningful activities. Because an idle mind is the devil's workshop.

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