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June 28, 2023, 03:31:14 PM
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Are you aware of any bitcointalk's casinos being promoted in Australia during the sports matches or at the local media? It's hard for me to say, because I don't have access to the local content of that country, but that would be the only reasonable justification to say casinos promoted here could be affected negatively by this new measure by australian politicians. If not, nothing will change for crypto casinos, as their target public is gathered on another platforms and through another marketing models.

As I observe, crypto casinos promote their brands on platforms with global access, without targeting specific countries or local medias to do the advertisement job for them. Even on this matter crypto seems pretty decentralized, and that is good, because such censorship from governments don't have a heavy impact on the gambling industry.

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June 28, 2023, 03:44:12 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
in the title of the article alone, you'll already know that the gambling ban will only be in Australia, not sure why you thought this would affect gambling casinos that advertise here in the forum.

anyway, I am still glad they are taking steps on trying to prevent the younger generation from being too exposed to gambling.

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June 28, 2023, 03:56:03 PM
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We are all trying to make a living here.
Yes, ann threads are to promote a specific project likewise with normal advertisements but a more interactive one. Difference is using personalities which are just popular. Meaning, audiences in ann threads of this forum are atleast aware of what they are engaging themselves with. Unlike with mainstream ads wherein some of the audience are just hooked because of the personalities used to run the ad.

But if it is, what's the point? 'coz it promotes gambling and gambling is an addictive activity? We all know that but no one pushes or requires us to engage into it,other than ourselves basically. It would take one's initiative to do so. If this is due to country limitations, still this is web 3.0 wherein governments has nothing to do with.

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June 28, 2023, 04:07:06 PM
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The government may ban gambling advertisements in all media, but that will not stop gambling advertisements from appearing in other media, especially since the spread of the internet is now getting better. Casinos can find a place to promote, and maybe they can further expand their business from a new place.

And if it's true that the ban will be enforced, I don't think it will matter because people will be able to find those gambling ads again or have already found a casino that suits them, so they don't have to look for another one. And I don't think it will impact Bitcointalk because this forum is independent and not bound by anything.

Especially because casinos can contact the webmaster of a websites like a well-known crypto blogs/news which they could buy an adspace or banner on their pages. This had been known to happen especially if they see the blog is commonly viewed by crypt users.

Advertising is a big industry and there are adnetworks pretty much brokering traffic to websites to target audiences that are in their demographics. The government of Australia may implement banning gambling-related ads but the websites can still serve those ads, it's unstoppable.


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June 28, 2023, 04:07:12 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
in the title of the article alone, you'll already know that the gambling ban will only be in Australia, not sure why you thought this would affect gambling casinos that advertise here in the forum.

anyway, I am still glad they are taking steps on trying to prevent the younger generation from being too exposed to gambling.

With the developing technology that we have right now, online advertisement is the best marketing strategy that casinos businesses could do and it is visible on all types of social media platforms and popular sites. We can't get rid of them because they are even present in some TV ads. The best thing that we can do is to guide and advise the younger generation about the risks of gambling addiction.
We should still do our part as adults in reminding the younger generation just so they wouldn't get attracted to gambling ads. I don't think signature campaigns should be banned because we're on the right platform to do it. Most of us here are adults and are aware of how gambling works. Gambling promotions here are appropriate since they won't affect most gamblers negatively especially now that topics about gambling addictions are already existing on this forum.
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June 28, 2023, 04:07:43 PM
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This shouldn't affect the signature campaigns for crypto casinos because it's unlikely that the forum admins will cooperate with them. On the other hand, most crypto casinos have Australia under their geo-restriction list, so they're not losing anything if gambling ads do get banned in Australia in the future. I doubt they can stop every gambling advertisement we see on different platforms when they're only limited to the ones under their control or until the other party agrees with their plan.

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June 28, 2023, 04:08:57 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

I don't see how banning ads in Australia can affect this forum. The article did not say say online gambling ads should be banned world wide, its just in Australia. I also don't think they can stop people from Australia from using the forum except the site would be banned in Australia, which can still be bypassed.

I'm not in support of banning ads for online gambling. Every company should have a right to advertise its business, as far as that company is allowed to do business in that particular country.
Alcohol also causes damage, but alcohol companies are not banned from having online ads in Australia.

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June 28, 2023, 04:31:24 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
in the title of the article alone, you'll already know that the gambling ban will only be in Australia, not sure why you thought this would affect gambling casinos that advertise here in the forum.

anyway, I am still glad they are taking steps on trying to prevent the younger generation from being too exposed to gambling.
They will always claim that gambling ads are the main cause of gambling addiction in the country so it needs to be checked. I don't subscribe to banning these adverts totally but it can be regulated. There should be another way of controlling these adverts to protect underage gamblers. The gambling sector is providing jobs for many people, this policy can lead to job loss.

The government can not pretend that it is not getting a substantial amount of revenue from this sector. This is just a recommendation by a legislative inquiry, let's see if it will be implemented. After all some leading politicians received funds from gaming companies during the campaign. An example is Michelle Rowland, the communication minister of Australia, whose ministry will enforce the ban. But it is good that the gaming sector has been given three years to look for alternative means of advert.


If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
The world is like a system and each subsystem depend on each other to function properly. It might have an indirect effect but it will be insignificant. I don't also think that Australian laws are binding on the forum. This forum has its laws and it is not influenced by the law of any country. So gambling ads will continue in bitcointalk. The only effect is that accessing the forum might be restricted because of the gambling ads in the forum.


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June 28, 2023, 04:53:06 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
looks like some answers have been answered but I just want to add that gambling ads can't seem to be stopped for several reasons and the main thing is that the article is only in certain countries and if gambling ads are banned what about countries that allow gambling? and what about the name of the gambling site that is written on the jerseys of the players of the football team or other sports?

so there is no need to think too complicated because until whenever gambling advertisements can never be banned for various reasons that cannot be annulled.

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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Wow, the threshold for banning adverts is that they are annoying? That would wipe out pretty much 80-90%+ of advertising if it's the only criteria. It's pathetically vague and they clearly don't want to go all out against gambling companies with actual reasons, I could see such logic facing a lot of trouble in court if it was the main instigator of new laws being set up. It would not affect bitcointalk in the slightest because as far as I know the servers are not based in Australia and the Australian government has zero jurisdiction over it. You need to learn more about how laws and international enforcement works before suggesting such a silly thing in future. It wouldn't affect the casinos either, because they'll likely be making money from other markets instead and just stop paying for advertising in Asutralia.

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June 28, 2023, 06:47:57 PM
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This shouldn't affect the signature campaigns for crypto casinos because it's unlikely that the forum admins will cooperate with them. On the other hand, most crypto casinos have Australia under their geo-restriction list, so they're not losing anything if gambling ads do get banned in Australia in the future. I doubt they can stop every gambling advertisement we see on different platforms when they're only limited to the ones under their control or until the other party agrees with their plan.

Of course because each country has its own laws regarding gambling and gambling ads. There are already some countries where gambling is banned, but id did not affect bitcointalk, just as there are countries were bitcoin is banned, but it doesn't stop people from these countries from making accounts ere and being a part of the community.
Bitcointalk staff cannot obey every single rule imposed by every single country, because it's impossible, especially since some of them contradict each other.


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From what I understand, this forum isn't really about promoting online casinos, but more about the users and their discussions. So, even if Australia decides to pass a law like that, it shouldn't really affect this platform. I mean, what can the administrators really do? Start tracking where every visitor is coming from and disable user signatures for those from Australia? That sounds like it would totally go against the freedom of speech that this forum values. So, yeah, I don't think you have much to worry about. Just keep enjoying the discussions!

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June 28, 2023, 07:08:59 PM
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Of course because each country has its own laws regarding gambling and gambling ads. There are already some countries where gambling is banned, but id did not affect bitcointalk, just as there are countries were bitcoin is banned, but it doesn't stop people from these countries from making accounts ere and being a part of the community.
Bitcointalk staff cannot obey every single rule imposed by every single country, because it's impossible, especially since some of them contradict each other.
True. The administrator of bitcoin talk is under no obligation to obey any law regarding a ban on gambling ad unless they a letter is addressed to them that gambling adverts on the platforms should cease. Which I do not this that this is possible at all. Still I do not think that if today gambling ads are banned on the forum that it will have any positive effect or lower the rate of those who gamble or are addicted to gambling or underaged gambling. It just won't work.

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June 28, 2023, 07:09:42 PM
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This would only be implemented in Australia and it's not a worldwide thing. Therefore I don't think it will be a problem here and we won't see any casino or gambling sites being promoted on the Bitcointalk forum. Also I thin that they're notmany Australian-based casinos on this forum or maybe I could be wrong?

We already know that every country has its own government and they make different decisions. While some countries allow gambling activities there are others, especially in Muslim countries where gambling is considered a sin and I think it wouldn't be appropriate to promote it there. Smiley
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
looks like some answers have been answered but I just want to add that gambling ads can't seem to be stopped for several reasons and the main thing is that the article is only in certain countries and if gambling ads are banned what about countries that allow gambling? and what about the name of the gambling site that is written on the jerseys of the players of the football team or other sports?

so there is no need to think too complicated because until whenever gambling advertisements can never be banned for various reasons that cannot be annulled.
Absolutely, and even if in the OP's country gambling advertising is banned, I think in the long term there will still be gambling advertising done covertly or they will somehow figure out a solution, because there will always be a way for their gambling advertising to exist.
and what we have to realize is that gambling has been a part of our culture since ancient humans, so no matter how a country prohibits it, there will still be gambling and it will never disappear.
and many countries prohibit gambling or gambling advertising and also many countries do not prohibit or legalize it. So, it won't affect this great forum and besides the users of this forum are from different countries and not in one country.

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June 28, 2023, 08:19:38 PM
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OP, you should edit the title and include the word Australia in it cause it's kind of misleading.

I don't know this will really affect the bitcointalk in any way, since they proposed a ban against ads showing in the matches like while they are streaming or even if they banned Gambling related ads from sponsoring a team won't affect the bitcointalk at all. Don't forget they didn't ban the Gambling they just banned the ads and it's kind of common and not really going to make any effect.









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June 28, 2023, 08:29:39 PM
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Quote from: https://www.[Suspicious link removed
s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
This forum will not be affected by such regulation, however this is something that I thought was coming, as we know gambling has gotten way more popular during the previous years due to a combination of factors which created the perfect storm for this to happen, so now some governments have taken note and they want to try to protect some vulnerable citizens which may become addicted to gambling, however like always such bans are hardly effective and those that want to gamble will find a way to do so despite the advertising ban they are trying to put in place.
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Quote from: https://www.[Suspicious link removed
s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

This is an anonymous and free forum and I think anyone is allowed to promote their business here as long as they are not breaking any law.What happens in Australia is of no concern for a forum is global.Signature campaign are a great way to increase visibility of the brand being promoted,you can go and just check the Services section here in the forum and you will see that there are a lot of them running from these a lot quite some are from different crypto casinos,meaning the ads being banned in TV most likely as in Internet will be difficult,there are always VPN-s to use and I think Australia government knows it very well.Nothing will end in this forum as long as everything is done based following the rules of the forum.

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June 28, 2023, 08:53:18 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
First, there are no bitcointalk casinos maybe you're referring to casinos that are giving ads here and I don't think they'll go after here, this isn't on their respective zone to impose their rules. This is a free speech forum and they wouldn't surely dare to have their laws be carried out here. It's only on Australia and as far as I can understand it may just affect whoever are in Australia, I think it's just the social media platforms.
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June 28, 2023, 08:55:24 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos?

How is that a problem with the forum? I was reading through your post and felt you didn't see you were talking about a single country, Australia.  Australians can be affected but not the forum. Moreover, it is just the ads and gambling will still be going on there. I think that could be a policy to limit advertisement probably to protect the under age bettors. If ads are banned it will only bring low turnout for casinos running ads in Australia only but if same casino is running ads in other country then it is still not an issue. This is just a lesser concern on the Australian bettors and under aged.
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