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June 29, 2023, 10:17:43 AM
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Yes, this is another attempt by the Australian government to show how hard they are working to improve the lives of citizens, only they don't understand that life should be improved not by bans, but by innovations. I'm sure that this initiative will not lead to the reduction of gambling addiction among citizens, but it may encourage some segments of the population to seek other more dangerous entertainment.

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June 29, 2023, 10:23:25 AM
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Yes, this is another attempt by the Australian government to show how hard they are working to improve the lives of citizens, only they don't understand that life should be improved not by bans, but by innovations. I'm sure that this initiative will not lead to the reduction of gambling addiction among citizens, but it may encourage some segments of the population to seek other more dangerous entertainment.

If the people had been enjoying the governments and their relieve services to the people maybe there will be lesser concentration on the rate of growth in the way the people abuse things or get addicted when they know that they have an already made available means to finance themselves through government parliatives and other opportunities, they had better improve livew than ban on gambling or trying to regulate it while the people were struggling.
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June 29, 2023, 11:52:54 AM
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Yes, this is another attempt by the Australian government to show how hard they are working to improve the lives of citizens, only they don't understand that life should be improved not by bans, but by innovations. I'm sure that this initiative will not lead to the reduction of gambling addiction among citizens, but it may encourage some segments of the population to seek other more dangerous entertainment.

If the people had been enjoying the governments and their relieve services to the people maybe there will be lesser concentration on the rate of growth in the way the people abuse things or get addicted when they know that they have an already made available means to finance themselves through government parliatives and other opportunities, they had better improve livew than ban on gambling or trying to regulate it while the people were struggling.
It's not that easy because it all depends on the citizens themselves whether they have the awareness and more advanced thinking to be able to live a normal life without gambling.
Even though the government provides large amounts of assistance, people's awareness about gambling cannot be changed, so it will only be the same where the assistance money is used as gambling capital.

The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.

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June 29, 2023, 01:10:26 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Since you are a newbie do not know Bitcointalk, and your post is misleading about how one country that will ban gambling ads can make an impact here in Bitcointalk, even casinos will not get harmed, your post is misleading, and you belittle the popularity of Bitcointalk, next time you create a topic get the fact right and do not make it misleading.
Australians are great gamblers and responsible too I'm sure they have a way to address this and they will not be alarmed.

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June 29, 2023, 03:00:51 PM
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The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.

By this are you suggestive that gambling will go down or relegated to the background? No I don't think that is going to happen. No matter the jobs that government provide for her youth, gambling will still be there. The days we are are the days of new age and exploration, the youth are exploring all aspects of socialization and acculturation of which gambling is one of the top that people get to know what happens in other jurisdictions. And the gaming industry is fast growing , different sports find there way to bookies. The gambling adventure is now more of pleasure and fun that employed people find time for it also.

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June 29, 2023, 03:20:24 PM
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The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.

By this are you suggestive that gambling will go down or relegated to the background? No I don't think that is going to happen. No matter the jobs that government provide for her youth, gambling will still be there. The days we are are the days of new age and exploration, the youth are exploring all aspects of socialization and acculturation of which gambling is one of the top that people get to know what happens in other jurisdictions. And the gaming industry is fast growing , different sports find there way to bookies. The gambling adventure is now more of pleasure and fun that employed people find time for it also.
Yes, gambling has its own place even though there may be a ban or rejection, and we know that now in some countries gambling has been legalized, and that will create opportunities for other countries to follow the steps taken by countries that first legalized gambling.
And I agree with you, that now the game is much more developed and the development is indeed very fast. Bookies will always find a way for their goals to reach many people who in the end they will take to the gambling table. And from the article quoted by the OP, actually it only refers to one country and previously there were also many countries that banned gambling.

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June 29, 2023, 04:55:41 PM
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The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.
Gambling is already part of everyone's culture. Even if there will be jobs and things as such but if a person has already been a gambler, you can't remove that on him unless he's the one that's gonna remove it for himself. And the better the life, the easier the gambler will take it place that he can gamble without having a problem because win or lose, there's still money that's gonna flow on him based on the life that he's got and the job that he's working on.

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June 30, 2023, 07:29:03 AM
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Try to know this that gambling ads cannot be banned by any means, we have to know that except the gambling platforms decided to put a stop to them there may not be a means to avoid this incidence at all, the two sides involved in this mostly benefited from it which is the promoting casinos and the promoters themselves, some gamblers also make uses of this to their advantage because they get updates and offerers through this except for those not interested in seeing ads in their experience being online, the forum casinos has nothing to do with this either nor do they get affected by this decision since their own advertisement here is not by ads except for other platforms they also appears.
I believe for some reason, they are against online gambling, I've just read that online gambling or casinos are highly regulated in the country and now they are going to ban online gambling ads within the country, even though they allow casinos that operate under a license but since most gambling casinos that are available online, I'm not sure if they allow them or not and they only allow land-based casinos that are operating under a license.

And it's not true that gambling ads cannot be banned, they can ban them all over the internet and won't allow any service, website, or social networking site to display or run gambling ads within their country, we might think they can't do that but in reality, they can do that pretty easily.
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June 30, 2023, 07:45:16 AM
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Try to know this that gambling ads cannot be banned by any means, we have to know that except the gambling platforms decided to put a stop to them there may not be a means to avoid this incidence at all, the two sides involved in this mostly benefited from it which is the promoting casinos and the promoters themselves, some gamblers also make uses of this to their advantage because they get updates and offerers through this except for those not interested in seeing ads in their experience being online, the forum casinos has nothing to do with this either nor do they get affected by this decision since their own advertisement here is not by ads except for other platforms they also appears.
I believe for some reason, they are against online gambling, I've just read that online gambling or casinos are highly regulated in the country and now they are going to ban online gambling ads within the country, even though they allow casinos that operate under a license but since most gambling casinos that are available online, I'm not sure if they allow them or not and they only allow land-based casinos that are operating under a license.

And it's not true that gambling ads cannot be banned, they can ban them all over the internet and won't allow any service, website, or social networking site to display or run gambling ads within their country, we might think they can't do that but in reality, they can do that pretty easily.

If the country is serious about banning it. But oftentimes, they are all just publications for the public. In reality, these politicians will need a source of funds for the government to run.
China looks serious about it but you can see they are building casinos outside their mainland. The government itself invests in casino buildings everywhere in Asia.

Online can be easier to ban since they can control ISP to do that for the government but then there are just lots of ways to bypass restrictions. So basically it's still for the show.
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June 30, 2023, 08:26:58 AM
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If the country is serious about banning it. But oftentimes, they are all just publications for the public. In reality, these politicians will need a source of funds for the government to run.
China looks serious about it but you can see they are building casinos outside their mainland. The government itself invests in casino buildings everywhere in Asia.

Online can be easier to ban since they can control ISP to do that for the government but then there are just lots of ways to bypass restrictions. So basically it's still for the show.
If the state really wants to ban gambling, it could lose one of the sources of funds that can provide large tax contributions because the gambling industry is a big business.
And I'm not sure the politicians in the country would agree because they may control the casinos in the country and take the profits for them.
And if the state bans it, they will also lose out on an additional source of income even though it may not be legal.
Maybe the government doesn't need to ban gambling, especially in countries that have allowed gambling for a long time, but the state can prohibit underage people from gambling.
If it is an online casino, the government should cooperate with ISPs in monitoring every connection made by its citizens so that the government can ask citizens who play gambling to report it.
It can control gamblers and the government can also see their activity in gambling through their respective ISPs.

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June 30, 2023, 09:03:13 AM
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Bitcointalk is not Australia.
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It said the ban should be implemented in four phases: first, prohibiting inducements and social media and online platforms, and ads during school drop off and pick-up times; second, banning “all online gambling advertising and commentary on odds, during and an hour either side of a sports broadcast”, on uniforms and in stadiums; third, banning broadcast ads between 6.00 am and 10.00 pm; and then finally a “by the end of year three, prohibition on all online gambling advertising and sponsorship”.
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Let's read it carefully on where they want to ban it.
They ain't the world government to do that kind of ban on different websites or forums. But if that forum is especially made for Australians then I guess they should abide by that law.
This movement will actually be not easy to implement. First, they also added the social media and online platforms. What? Tell Facebook and Twitter to stop the advertisements of gambling on their timeline. I don't think that is going to happen unless there is Facebook Australia and Twitter Australia only.
They should discuss this with the internet services to block such advertisements during the time given in the report.
The other recommendation can be done by their government but it will also be an intense fight for them.
But I do think this is going to be hard, I mean, some of them are not the gambling sites doing anymore, there are those who are looking for referrals that might flash the ads in some articles or blogs.

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June 30, 2023, 09:19:07 AM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?


Big NO. I didn't come to read the link, but as what I have understood about these "annoying" gambling ads, they are actually referring to the ads that pops up mostly to any social media platforms. Yes, they are really annoying and minors can actually see it, most especially if a computer is not protected by an app for child safety.
But, bitcointalk forum is a totally different community than the mainstream social media platforms. All of us here are of legal age and there no children roaming around here and the signature ads are exclusively seen only within this community - so I don't think it is somehow connected with the banning of the gambling related ads.
The main focus of this is to ban all gambling related ads in all social media platforms. Also, the article says is only for Australia.

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June 30, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
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I think gambling ads should be banned in many places... I think there's a time and place for everything! What's happening in my country now is out of control I think. Gambling ads are literally everywhere at any time.

And how far it goes shows my experience from recently. I was listening to the radio in the car and an advertisement for a big casino started. Music, the sound of coins, some big wins, mention of winnings, bonuses... and so it lasts for 20-30 seconds. After that comes the part "children and under 18 should ignore what they heard"!!! How could someone ignore all of that just like that!? And that's radio, those commercials run all day on many radio stations.

I am not sure if it's true or not, this is from the daily newspaper (tabloid)... but things are getting pretty wild, and that is not good:

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June 30, 2023, 09:30:55 AM
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Probably we could all have rise in support of ban on ads if it would have been possible bit it's something decentralized that everyone has to take decision on to do with or without, we cannot judge from our own end to ban it because we think it sucks on our end due to our preference wgile others may actually finds it very interesting to see, they will alsl use the fact that it's one of the promotional efforts to make in advertisement.
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June 30, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

The news says that it is related Australian only, how would it affect bitcoin casinos and bitcointalk ads in general? If you are talking about global ban, yes this question may come but since the news is only for Australian then it would not affect bitcoin casino. Interesting fact, I believe that most countries where gambling is banned, they are also banning gambling ads. But what is the reality? People in the countries are still finding gambling ads when they are surfing in the internet space. I guess no one can ban gambling ads globally all around the world.
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June 30, 2023, 10:12:26 AM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?


Big NO. I didn't come to read the link, but as what I have understood about these "annoying" gambling ads, they are actually referring to the ads that pops up mostly to any social media platforms. Yes, they are really annoying and minors can actually see it, most especially if a computer is not protected by an app for child safety.
But, bitcointalk forum is a totally different community than the mainstream social media platforms. All of us here are of legal age and there no children roaming around here and the signature ads are exclusively seen only within this community - so I don't think it is somehow connected with the banning of the gambling related ads.
The main focus of this is to ban all gambling related ads in all social media platforms. Also, the article says is only for Australia.


By means of all includes the forum so Bitcointalk forum will be banned on Australia since we are promoting gambling but that doesn’t mean that Bitcointalk will not be available on other country. Country like Russia already banned Bitcointalk to be access by their citizen. I think this same local banned will happened to all Australian users here but the rest of the user that live on other country without restriction can still use the forum.

I don’t know how forum setup about country restrictions though but the Australian government will surely restrict access to the forum when this law was implemented.
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June 30, 2023, 04:51:56 PM
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Try to know this that gambling ads cannot be banned by any means, we have to know that except the gambling platforms decided to put a stop to them there may not be a means to avoid this incidence at all, the two sides involved in this mostly benefited from it which is the promoting casinos and the promoters themselves, some gamblers also make uses of this to their advantage because they get updates and offerers through this except for those not interested in seeing ads in their experience being online, the forum casinos has nothing to do with this either nor do they get affected by this decision since their own advertisement here is not by ads except for other platforms they also appears.
I believe for some reason, they are against online gambling, I've just read that online gambling or casinos are highly regulated in the country and now they are going to ban online gambling ads within the country, even though they allow casinos that operate under a license but since most gambling casinos that are available online, I'm not sure if they allow them or not and they only allow land-based casinos that are operating under a license.

And it's not true that gambling ads cannot be banned, they can ban them all over the internet and won't allow any service, website, or social networking site to display or run gambling ads within their country, we might think they can't do that but in reality, they can do that pretty easily.
Picking apart your statement, I'd like to dispense with a myth: the idea that regulation necessarily equals opposition. Yes, online gambling might be heavily regulated, and yes, the advertisements are facing a potential ban. But, to imply that this equates to an anti-gambling stance, well, I'd say that's somewhat of a leap. There's a good reason for this "red tape" – it's not just for the giggles. It's there to protect people. The restrictions are there to prevent exploitation and crime, two unfortunate side-effects of the gambling industry, whether online or land-based. The question then isn't if they're against online gambling, but rather, to what degree they prioritize public safety. As for banning ads, well, it's not a walk in the park. Sure, they could hypothetically ban them within the country, but let's not forget about VPNs and ad-blockers – the internet's very own pair of getaway cars. So, while a blanket ban may be possible in theory, in practice, it's a tad more complicated.

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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
You have built misconceptions around this article and as a matter of fact there are no ads campaigns in bitcoin talk, in the past, there were ads for each first page of the forum and not long ago the forum administrator already placed a banned on that.
This ban on ads has been on the rise and this has also led to other social media like Facebook also banning some ads, so this all balls down to the same thing which is actions based on preferences this is different from forum signature which is entirely based on individual members. I

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June 30, 2023, 06:01:09 PM
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The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.
Gambling is already part of everyone's culture. Even if there will be jobs and things as such but if a person has already been a gambler, you can't remove that on him unless he's the one that's gonna remove it for himself. And the better the life, the easier the gambler will take it place that he can gamble without having a problem because win or lose, there's still money that's gonna flow on him based on the life that he's got and the job that he's working on.
Well, gambling cannot be avoided, in essence, it has become an old culture that is attached to one's life, especially now that gambling is easier without having to go to a traditional casino.
I agree with you that with a better life, he has a stable job, he will not be able to forget about gambling, especially by having enough finances, it will be easier to deposit to start gambling, so with an established job, it is not enough to stop gambling unless own desire to stop forever.

For me, as long as we don't cross the limits of our financial capabilities, there is no problem. Put it in the category of fun, not to make a living in gambling.

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June 30, 2023, 06:17:11 PM
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
Am having a question to ask and if you can answer the question, am sure you will already have answer. Those bitcoin talk belongs to Australia? Which am sure your answer will be No. bitcointalk those not belong to any region so if Australia is banning gambling ads in all the sites in their country, then they don’t have any issue with forum here, no country can stop bitcointalk from marketing any gambling sites here, only the forum members can refuse to advertise a site if they think the site is a scam one. We have all seen different scam sites which people have being strictly warn not to advertise them, but no country can stop advertisement on the forum here.
We all are concerned about the forum which is not limited to on any particular country. bitcointalk has no problem if Australia or one or more countries stop their gambling ads. If Australian casinos want to keep their promotions on bitcointalk they can continue it. This matter is entirely up to them. In this regard bitcointalk does not directly manage any gambling site but we get authentic informations of many gambling sites which are available. No specific area or any particular country can bring any kind of negative impact on it.

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