Ads for online gambling should be banned.

[rhomelmabini]

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

Wearing a casino signature means you're promoting the casino, if you're an Australian citizen, actually you're broke your country laws. But do you think Australian government will care and catch you? nope, the highest payrate of signature campaign in this forum is $150, such amount is just a peanut for them and not worth to take a serious action. Bitcointalk is also an underrated forum, not really high like reddit, so it make the government won't care about you.

What if they make all of the activities regarding gambling banned even on underrated forums like here? I don't know if there are really Aussies here that probably wearing signatures for the sake of $150/week, I think that's too low for them, just saying. I think signatures are part of an advertisement if you're being paid for that, yeah, you really represent them and I agree with you.

[Blitzboy]

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Things that are meant to spread will spread no matter what someone does to prevent that from happening. Tobacco advertisements are banned all around the world, but does that reduce the number of smokers? It doesn't, in fact, they keep increasing over time because there is no need for any advertisement for cigarettes to get to people, everyone knows where they can get them and they do that regardless of the fact that they are harmful to them.

Similarly, no matter how much government works on banning gambling advertisements to reduce the number of gamblers and gambling addicts, it is a kind of a thing that will spread anyway, the only difference is that who knows which platform one would choose to start their gambling journey.

Smoking and gambling appear to defy legislation and advertising limits. When these behaviours continue despite their risks, cognitive dissonance occurs.

Pessimism suggests we'll lose this battle. Thats defeatist. Instead of censoring ads, we should promote education and prevention.

I hate gambling advertising. However, some people need a little gambling for fun. However, these adverts may sway addicts. They deserve contempt, but lets also find ways to educate people.

[Yaunfitda]

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Things that are meant to spread will spread no matter what someone does to prevent that from happening. Tobacco advertisements are banned all around the world, but does that reduce the number of smokers? It doesn't, in fact, they keep increasing over time because there is no need for any advertisement for cigarettes to get to people, everyone knows where they can get them and they do that regardless of the fact that they are harmful to them.

Similarly, no matter how much government works on banning gambling advertisements to reduce the number of gamblers and gambling addicts, it is a kind of a thing that will spread anyway, the only difference is that who knows which platform one would choose to start their gambling journey.

Smoking and gambling appear to defy legislation and advertising limits. When these behaviours continue despite their risks, cognitive dissonance occurs.

Pessimism suggests we'll lose this battle. Thats defeatist. Instead of censoring ads, we should promote education and prevention.

I hate gambling advertising. However, some people need a little gambling for fun. However, these adverts may sway addicts. They deserve contempt, but lets also find ways to educate people.

Not sure if we can compare it though to smoking ads, I mean there are huge cigarette companies that lobbied government officials and so it's hard to stop those ads from popping.

But as for gambling, there are a lot of government around the world is that totally against it. So maybe we can't see those ads anymore or anywhere. As compare to smoking and cigarette ads that are everywhere and even minors have access to it.

[len01]

s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

exactly. this forum is an open place for discussion related to anything and is not bound by anything and is not established as a gambling place. so here there is freedom or anyone may carry out any activity that does not violate the forum rules even if using a signature or an ANN thread does not mean that this is a gambling place but a place that is provided for everyone who wants to discuss or seek information about anything that exists.
I think Australia will never care about this forum because it will not affect anything and this is just our place for discussion.

[retreat]

Smoking and gambling appear to defy legislation and advertising limits. When these behaviours continue despite their risks, cognitive dissonance occurs.

Pessimism suggests we'll lose this battle. Thats defeatist. Instead of censoring ads, we should promote education and prevention.

I hate gambling advertising. However, some people need a little gambling for fun. However, these adverts may sway addicts. They deserve contempt, but lets also find ways to educate people.

And because of that regulation by the government is needed to be able to regulate how advertisements from gambling are not excessive and affect minors. In my own country, here gambling platforms are not allowed to advertise in public spaces, but they are allowed to advertise in places such as clubs, private parties, etc., basically only places attended by adults with not too much intensity. With regulations like this, the government can prevent children from playing gambling, but at the same time still allow gambling platforms to advertise their games.

[ethereumhunter]

Gambling regulations will surely depend heavily on how gambling is considered by politicians, if gambling is just seen as an adult hobby, then you may be right and gambling ads will simply disappear from events that children and young people are expected to watch, however if gambling is considered to be bad for people regardless of their age then we may see a complete ban on gambling advertising, a scenario similar to what happened to tobacco.

Gambling advertisements will continue to exist because of the interests of many parties, including politicians. Some politicians also own casinos so they want to see advertisements about their casino. So even though there is a ban on minors, gambling ads for adults can still run because the ads are specifically for adults only or people who don't apply filters.

Things that are meant to spread will spread no matter what someone does to prevent that from happening. Tobacco advertisements are banned all around the world, but does that reduce the number of smokers? It doesn't, in fact, they keep increasing over time because there is no need for any advertisement for cigarettes to get to people, everyone knows where they can get them and they do that regardless of the fact that they are harmful to them.

Similarly, no matter how much government works on banning gambling advertisements to reduce the number of gamblers and gambling addicts, it is a kind of a thing that will spread anyway, the only difference is that who knows which platform one would choose to start their gambling journey.

That is the impact of an advertisement that can attract more people to join. Gambling ads are also like that, so maybe if the government reduces the broadcast time of gambling ads, it won't stop people from quitting or reducing their gambling time because they already know much about gambling. So it is very difficult to ban gambling advertisements, especially if people very well know gambling because they will return to gambling again.

Yes bitcoin forum is completely independent. It does not operate any gambling sites so no government can file any complaint against it. However, where gambling is illegal, the government will impose various restrictions. Everything related to gambling in those places will be viewed seriously. I think the government cannot create any such obligation regarding gambling advertisements on social media. However, if governments want to, they can certainly regulate gambling at the national or local level.

Unless the government suppresses people on forums and bans gambling ads from appearing on these forums, but we know that the bitcoin forum is independent and not related or bound by anything, so many ads appear on this forum. The government can easily regulate gambling advertisements that appear locally or nationally because they are all under government regulations, so they have to obey the government's wishes.

[hyudien]

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Let's say if it is banned, will the institution that prohibits it dare to displace bigger finances like those issued by casinos to become promoters? of course not, they just bark without any solution. No wonder why the opposition always ends with criticism without a solution. They are not able to speak broadly and even move in an Australian country even though it doesn't make any impact. Then why did you link it to this forum?

This is not a matter of banned ads or not, because everyone has the right to make a choice. For example, when you see a legal advertisement on television regarding "if you buy a bottle of drink, you will get a raffle ticket to win a car raffle ticket". Are you interested?

A small example where promotion of any kind does in fact not force you to spend money if you are not interested. So what's the difference between gambling ads? the same as not forcing right?

[Taskford]

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Let's say if it is banned, will the institution that prohibits it dare to displace bigger finances like those issued by casinos to become promoters? of course not, they just bark without any solution. No wonder why the opposition always ends with criticism without a solution. They are not able to speak broadly and even move in an Australian country even though it doesn't make any impact. Then why did you link it to this forum?

That's part of solution maybe we can't see a huge effect on it since there are still people gambles but still its good initiative already since they can study how their regulation goes. If it happens the number of addiction has still rising up maybe another solution will be placed and maybe we. n see them issue a total ban if they see that their last regulation didn't seems effective and they need to level up their actions and put total end to each casino platform to lessen up the damage  brought up by wrong perception about the casino.

[masulum]

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

the main goal of signature displays is to promote projects and casinos, and this is a commercial advertisements. This is the same as you advertise the services of businesses around you and put banners in your house. Signature has the same function as banner ads that you see on websites such as Adsense. Because with this signature, forum users will see the casino or project and feel save to join. In the end, you get paid for using signature of the project/casino, that's the same as you promote it commercially. IMO/CMIIW

[knowngunman]

But as for gambling, there are a lot of government around the world is that totally against it. So maybe we can't see those ads anymore or anywhere. As compare to smoking and cigarette ads that are everywhere and even minors have access to it.

I doubt this because gambling has grown more than expected compare to smoking and cigarette. I don't know what the Australian authority foresees but restriction or banning of online gambling ads will not have much effect considering the awareness gambling has created around the world already. I disagree with you on the statement emboldened above. Gambling is more and easily accessible for minors than cigarettes. Smoking is more regulated than gambling hence, it's operation are being carried out on a low key.

By the way, the article in the OP post has less to do with Forum and it ads services. The above law will only be applicable to Australians and not the entire globe 

[Dzwaafu11]

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

I think before starting a discussion you should be able to grasp what you are talking about mate, so now that you mentioned Bitcointalk is bitcointalk from Australia? What you posted indicates Only Australian why will these effect bitcointalk OP? You can see that these exclusively effect only Australians and have nothing to do with bitcointalk or the globe.

Nevertheless, the Australians think that this may be done in order to eradicate or lessen the country's growing gambling addiction. If this is what they intended, I agree that it would be a wise choice also.

The Australians maybe think that this may be done since they they maybe that the number of gambling addictions in their nation is rising steadily. If this is what they meant, I agree that it would be a wise choice, by introducing these method of stopping gambling ads advertisement.

[hyudien]

That's part of solution maybe we can't see a huge effect on it since there are still people gambles but still its good initiative already since they can study how their regulation goes. If it happens the number of addiction has still rising up maybe another solution will be placed and maybe we. n see them issue a total ban if they see that their last regulation didn't seems effective and they need to level up their actions and put total end to each casino platform to lessen up the damage  brought up by wrong perception about the casino.

I don't know how the rules in Australia are regarding gambling in general. Maybe the regulation has leeway with funds that can enter the state treasury. The government earns revenue from casino operations in accordance with the legality that has been approved. Gambling cannot be prohibited even through government regulations, advertisements will still appear everywhere, especially on each cell phone. You've seen it right? then refer to government policy on whether gambling is allowed. In fact, the advertisements are still running around and the only people who can stop them are the individuals themselves.

[Wakate]

That's part of solution maybe we can't see a huge effect on it since there are still people gambles but still its good initiative already since they can study how their regulation goes. If it happens the number of addiction has still rising up maybe another solution will be placed and maybe we. n see them issue a total ban if they see that their last regulation didn't seems effective and they need to level up their actions and put total end to each casino platform to lessen up the damage  brought up by wrong perception about the casino.

I don't know how the rules in Australia are regarding gambling in general. Maybe the regulation has leeway with funds that can enter the state treasury. The government earns revenue from casino operations in accordance with the legality that has been approved. Gambling cannot be prohibited even through government regulations, advertisements will still appear everywhere, especially on each cell phone. You've seen it right? then refer to government policy on whether gambling is allowed. In fact, the advertisements are still running around and the only people who can stop them are the individuals themselves.

The government earn a lot of money from gambling and for the government to put an end to it, it will be very hard unless the Senate decided to take it personal and create law that will be ban gambling ads. If the government have to ban gambling ads then there will be a need for them to ban gambling too so everything will end like that and casinos will not find a means to advertise there business to the public. That is the only way gambling ads can be ban when gambling activities are ban to so that people will not go and look for casinos to use and make bets. Could this be possible?

[molsewid]

The government earn a lot of money from gambling and for the government to put an end to it, it will be very hard unless the Senate decided to take it personal and create law that will be ban gambling ads. If the government have to ban gambling ads then there will be a need for them to ban gambling too so everything will end like that and casinos will not find a means to advertise there business to the public. That is the only way gambling ads can be ban when gambling activities are ban to so that people will not go and look for casinos to use and make bets. Could this be possible?

Government is the one who benefits all of it, they can earn taxes and use it in either funds or personal use . Ads are everywhere now and it can't be avoided , social media platforms are okay with it, they can earn a lot as well . It is a win-win scenario for both of casino owners and social media owners. You cannot control things that is being cannot be controlled, gambling is a business too.

[dimonstration]

That's part of solution maybe we can't see a huge effect on it since there are still people gambles but still its good initiative already since they can study how their regulation goes. If it happens the number of addiction has still rising up maybe another solution will be placed and maybe we. n see them issue a total ban if they see that their last regulation didn't seems effective and they need to level up their actions and put total end to each casino platform to lessen up the damage  brought up by wrong perception about the casino.

I don't know how the rules in Australia are regarding gambling in general. Maybe the regulation has leeway with funds that can enter the state treasury. The government earns revenue from casino operations in accordance with the legality that has been approved. Gambling cannot be prohibited even through government regulations, advertisements will still appear everywhere, especially on each cell phone. You've seen it right? then refer to government policy on whether gambling is allowed. In fact, the advertisements are still running around and the only people who can stop them are the individuals themselves.

The government earn a lot of money from gambling and for the government to put an end to it, it will be very hard unless the Senate decided to take it personal and create law that will be ban gambling ads. If the government have to ban gambling ads then there will be a need for them to ban gambling too so everything will end like that and casinos will not find a means to advertise there business to the public. That is the only way gambling ads can be ban when gambling activities are ban to so that people will not go and look for casinos to use and make bets. Could this be possible?

Gambling ads and gambling is two different matter. Gambling ads problem is making vulnerable audience exposed on this kind of activity while they should be not playing. Gambling on the other hand can operate freely without any ads to don't harm them unless they seek personally.

Gambling exist for a long time while online gambling ads is just recently become trending. The issue being tackled are to protect vulnerable audience and not to decrease gambling exposure of the Australian citizen as whole.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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At the end of the day, it is all about balancing- balancing the interests of the government to generate revenue for the betterment of society; and balancing the interests of the citizens to live a life free from all social norms, pressure, and addiction.

That's the point, sometimes the gambling industry creates dilemma considerations while the government wants to keep state revenue. I don't know if online gambling also contributes a lot to that.

However, when it comes to advertising methods, I think they are unlimited. While lately there have been a lot of hidden advertisements in various places (review and rating sites, livestreaming, short videos, etc) so that internet users will not be able to completely avoid the visibility of online casinos.

Here is something very clear, the business model is good for many, both Google and the casinos themselves, it is known that if they invest a lot in public they will have good results and that is something that is noticeable in any Business , in I personally have not seen many casino ads as advertising , very few.

When I connect to the internet despite the fact that I frequent stake.com, bitcasino.io, among other casinos , it is because when I navigate in the Browser it is to get Notifications from the casino, but it is not like that, it is strange , maybe my security is high And it doesn't Allow ads like this either , but on YouTube if I frequent casino strategies for slots , roulette, among others, casino advertising doesn't bother me, I think the industry continues to grow.

Now, as for advertising, I don't know about you , but it seems to me that on YouTube they are very interested in advertising ads, whatever, you see a video and it comes out, then it becomes clear that things when advertising is money for Everyone , this is Something that Cannot be denied , in part People always look for a way to win.

[dothebeats]

That's part of solution maybe we can't see a huge effect on it since there are still people gambles but still its good initiative already since they can study how their regulation goes. If it happens the number of addiction has still rising up maybe another solution will be placed and maybe we. n see them issue a total ban if they see that their last regulation didn't seems effective and they need to level up their actions and put total end to each casino platform to lessen up the damage  brought up by wrong perception about the casino.

I don't know how the rules in Australia are regarding gambling in general. Maybe the regulation has leeway with funds that can enter the state treasury. The government earns revenue from casino operations in accordance with the legality that has been approved. Gambling cannot be prohibited even through government regulations, advertisements will still appear everywhere, especially on each cell phone. You've seen it right? then refer to government policy on whether gambling is allowed. In fact, the advertisements are still running around and the only people who can stop them are the individuals themselves.

The government earn a lot of money from gambling and for the government to put an end to it, it will be very hard unless the Senate decided to take it personal and create law that will be ban gambling ads. If the government have to ban gambling ads then there will be a need for them to ban gambling too so everything will end like that and casinos will not find a means to advertise there business to the public. That is the only way gambling ads can be ban when gambling activities are ban to so that people will not go and look for casinos to use and make bets. Could this be possible?

They don't have to ban the ads, they just have to make the general public think twice in gambling before spending any money. This can be done by placing negative advertisements or emphasizing the negative effects of gambling. They did this in every cigarette packets and there's really no reason for them not to try this. It's way easier since the government won't have to lose profit at all as they also get taxes from this industry. Bans are sometimes not a great solution as you'll be foregoing revenue with it.

[erep]

If the government have to ban gambling ads then there will be a need for them to ban gambling too so everything will end like that and casinos will not find a means to advertise there business to the public. That is the only way gambling ads can be ban when gambling activities are ban to so that people will not go and look for casinos to use and make bets. Could this be possible?

We have to review the gambling regulations and gambling advertising rules in Australia, you need to know that gambling is not prohibited in Australia but gambling must comply with the regulations that have regulated the gambling industry, even gambling advertisements are not prohibited but the regulation of gambling advertisements is too strict because the government expects activity gambling does not have a negative impact on the public so that gambling regulations are very limited and the government always supervises gambling activities.

I appreciate the regulation of each country because the government is trying to prevent gambling addiction which is difficult to stop and even difficult to recover if the perpetrators of gambling addiction have been affected psychologically, so gambling regulation is strict to prevent negative influences on the public and new generations will continue to lead the nation in the future.

[jostorres]

Wearing a casino signature means you're promoting the casino, if you're an Australian citizen, actually you're broke your country laws. But do you think Australian government will care and catch you? nope, the highest payrate of signature campaign in this forum is $150, such amount is just a peanut for them and not worth to take a serious action. Bitcointalk is also an underrated forum, not really high like reddit, so it make the government won't care about you.

What if they make all of the activities regarding gambling banned even on underrated forums like here? I don't know if there are really Aussies here that probably wearing signatures for the sake of $150/week, I think that's too low for them, just saying. I think signatures are part of an advertisement if you're being paid for that, yeah, you really represent them and I agree with you.

Bitcointalk is not underrated anymore because Bitcoin and cryptos are now mainstream. Not all Aussies are rich and not all have a job. What if they are only a kid or a teen? $150 is already a nice amount for them. I think it's allowed if you're an Australian citizen and you are only promoting a casino online. Being online is not a country-specific.

I remember there's even Chinese people who migrate on other countries only to open a gambling business because gambling on their own country is illegal. As long as their business on other country is legal or has a permit, they won't experience any issues anymore. As long as ads are not evasive and will only pop out depending on our interest, then I see no problem with that.

[xSkylarx]

That's part of solution maybe we can't see a huge effect on it since there are still people gambles but still its good initiative already since they can study how their regulation goes. If it happens the number of addiction has still rising up maybe another solution will be placed and maybe we. n see them issue a total ban if they see that their last regulation didn't seems effective and they need to level up their actions and put total end to each casino platform to lessen up the damage  brought up by wrong perception about the casino.

I don't know how the rules in Australia are regarding gambling in general. Maybe the regulation has leeway with funds that can enter the state treasury. The government earns revenue from casino operations in accordance with the legality that has been approved. Gambling cannot be prohibited even through government regulations, advertisements will still appear everywhere, especially on each cell phone. You've seen it right? then refer to government policy on whether gambling is allowed. In fact, the advertisements are still running around and the only people who can stop them are the individuals themselves.

The government earn a lot of money from gambling and for the government to put an end to it, it will be very hard unless the Senate decided to take it personal and create law that will be ban gambling ads. If the government have to ban gambling ads then there will be a need for them to ban gambling too so everything will end like that and casinos will not find a means to advertise there business to the public. That is the only way gambling ads can be ban when gambling activities are ban to so that people will not go and look for casinos to use and make bets. Could this be possible?

They don't have to ban the ads, they just have to make the general public think twice in gambling before spending any money. This can be done by placing negative advertisements or emphasizing the negative effects of gambling. They did this in every cigarette packets and there's really no reason for them not to try this. It's way easier since the government won't have to lose profit at all as they also get taxes from this industry. Bans are sometimes not a great solution as you'll be foregoing revenue with it.

Imposing more taxes is also a good idea, like the cigarrets, which is why they keep getting more expensive. It is a really good idea to have an advertisement about not gambling as it can lose you money or even your life, but again, this is difficult if there are no regulations on this because it shouldn't be only on the platform that needs to do it. Again, a casino is a business, and there's a ton of money involved in it, which is why it is better if a big person or organization implements it.