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The first match proved to be very exciting both fighters came to fight, Joyce was the slight favorite but Zhang with his power jabs and straight punches damaged Joyce's right eye for the stoppage See the highlights here Joe Joyce vs Zhilei Zhang - Fight HighlightsNow they are going to meet again for the WBO INTERIM WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP this second match will be more exciting and more action-packed as Joyce tries to avenge his first loss against Zhang and Zhang will prove that he deserves to be taken seriously by the top names in the heavyweight. https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/37828227/sources-zhilei-zhang-joe-joyce-rematch-set-sept-2-londonJoyce, 37, was in position to face Tyson Fury this summer if he had emerged with the victory. Now, the Olympic silver medalist is looking to avenge the first defeat of his pro career. Pictures from: box.live
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June 29, 2023, 02:54:04 AM |
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That fast? oh well, it seems that Joyce is really hell bent on avenging his lost because no one thought that he is going to lose the first fight. Maybe he was just too complacent and think ahead of his fight with Tyson Fury.
Now, everything is back to zero for him, obviously he has to win this fight otherwise no more big payday for him against Fury.
On the other hand, the Chinese Zhang is full of confident that his first win is no fluke as he shows a lot of tools including his power in that first fight.
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June 29, 2023, 03:42:20 AM |
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...Zhang will prove that he deserves to be taken seriously by the top names in the heavyweight. Zhang can't be taken seriously by the top names in the heavyweight division because he isn't on their level. He stays where he matters and be competitive. Maybe he was just too complacent and think ahead of his fight with Tyson Fury.
Now, everything is back to zero for him, obviously he has to win this fight otherwise no more big payday for him against Fury. Lol. Let's be realistic and accept the fact that Zhang will never ever be given a match against Tyson Fury. If this Chinese old man is thinking he will defeat Joyce the second time around so that he will be having a huge payday when he finally faces Fury, then he is having an illusion. He better just fight and defeat any opponent for its own sake rather than dreaming of a fight against the gypsy king. He should have entered the scene much earlier with his record and perhaps he could have gotten the attention of anybody from the top.
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June 29, 2023, 06:02:25 AM |
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I feel sorry for Joyce, his career is doing great, Zhang's fight should have been a preparation for his match against Fury, but unfortunately, Zhang dominate him Joyce was totally outclassed his jabs was ineffective and Zhang was hitting at will, Joyce really wants to go on their last match but his right eye was awful that it could severely be damaged if the doctor did not stop the fight. Joyce is a great fighter something really wrong in his last fight against Zhang and his corners should do everything to correct those mistakes, I hope this time Joyce shows his true skill, his jabs were not connecting in his last fight and he lacks head movement. Even though Joyce loses the first match I believe he can avenge that only loss of his career.
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June 29, 2023, 09:09:57 AM |
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That fast? oh well, it seems that Joyce is really hell bent on avenging his lost because no one thought that he is going to lose the first fight. Maybe he was just too complacent and think ahead of his fight with Tyson Fury. He is really disappointed and his fans with the outcome he's been beating a lot of great British fighters like Dubois, and here he is getting beaten by a fighter that experts cannot be considered in the same league as Fury, this is one upset that he wants to get over with so he goes for a match Now, everything is back to zero for him, obviously he has to win this fight otherwise no more big payday for him against Fury. This is a very risky fight for Joyce, another loss and it's going to be a very hard climb to the top, this is his only way to get back on top and he must win impressively he needs to impress the boxing community and his fans since he is again fighting in front of his fans again. On the other hand, the Chinese Zhang is full of confident that his first win is no fluke as he shows a lot of tools including his power in that first fight. He's even daring Fury to fight him, he will carry this confidence on their rematch, we hope to see something new, not just what these two fighters left off.
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June 29, 2023, 11:01:48 AM |
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Now, everything is back to zero for him, obviously he has to win this fight otherwise no more big payday for him against Fury.
On the other hand, the Chinese Zhang is full of confident that his first win is no fluke as he shows a lot of tools including his power in that first fight.
Looks like the Chinese guy has the full advantage here since he is more than ready to face Joyce and he is not bothered by his last fight he also doesn't have the feeling about getting a straight loss. Zhang is full confidence that he can beat Joyce a second time here since he already knows how he gonna handle him. he will also train to get himself even more strength and confidence to easily defeat Joyce this time. I wonder what would gonna happen to Joyce's career if he get easily beaten by Zhang in their second fight.
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June 29, 2023, 11:33:03 AM |
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These names are quite unfamiliar to me. I only knew a few boxers in the heavyweight division, namely Fury, Joshua, Usyk, and Wilder. However, upon checking, I discovered that Zhang is currently the WBO champion. Now, I'm interested in watching this fight, and I'll begin by watching some of his fight highlights.
Are there any available betting odds for this particular fight yet?
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June 29, 2023, 11:53:55 AM |
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These names are quite unfamiliar to me. I only knew a few boxers in the heavyweight division, namely Fury, Joshua, Usyk, and Wilder. However, upon checking, I discovered that Zhang is currently the WBO champion. Now, I'm interested in watching this fight, and I'll begin by watching some of his fight highlights.
Are there any available betting odds for this particular fight yet?
This is just second tier HW fighters, nothing special to them, except that Fury, Joshua, Usyk and Wilder are going to defeat. Joyce is trying to break into the a fight with either the mentioned name, but he was upset by the Chinese. And so he has to regain what he has lost so obviously he wants to challenge the big man from China a second time around. First fight is really ugly for Joyce as he was clearly outpointed.
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June 29, 2023, 12:02:05 PM |
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These names are quite unfamiliar to me. I only knew a few boxers in the heavyweight division, namely Fury, Joshua, Usyk, and Wilder. However, upon checking, I discovered that Zhang is currently the WBO champion. Now, I'm interested in watching this fight, and I'll begin by watching some of his fight highlights.
Are there any available betting odds for this particular fight yet?
This is just second tier HW fighters, nothing special to them, except that Fury, Joshua, Usyk and Wilder are going to defeat. Joyce is trying to break into the a fight with either the mentioned name, but he was upset by the Chinese. And so he has to regain what he has lost so obviously he wants to challenge the big man from China a second time around. First fight is really ugly for Joyce as he was clearly outpointed. Since this is a rematch, hopefully, we will see a more exciting game. Joyce also has a decent record; he is a KO artist with 14 KO wins out of 15 fights. Maybe he was just too aggressive in the previous fight and forgot to be cautious against his fellow giant. So what would be the betting odds for the rematch? This was the odds in the previous fight, At -1000 (bet $1,000 to win $100), Joyce is a bigger betting favorite than I would make him, and there could be some value in wagering on Zhang as the +600 underdog (win $600 on a $100 wager). https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2023/04/14/joe-joyce-vs-zhilei-zhang-odds-records-prediction/?sh=56a65288b7f1
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June 29, 2023, 02:20:21 PM |
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^^ Good odds for those who think that Zhang can make it 2-0 against Joyce in the rematch. In the first match if I'm not mistaken, Joyce also is a huge favorite unfortunately, he lost that one.
And a sign of a good boxer is that if they can adjust on the rematch, so let's see how Joyce will deal with Zhang left. That is the weapon that really hurt Joyce in the fight as Zhang is throwing that left with bad intention.
Will likely skip this fight though, I wanted Joyce to win, but still though, there could be another upset.
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June 29, 2023, 03:51:14 PM |
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Not used to seeing Chinese being a boxing champ, very surprising that he once upset a fight against an African American with a 93% KO rate. He must be special. He'll gonna have to prove it twice though. Despite Joyce's loss in their first fight, he is still the favorite in this match.
Was intrigued so I watched their first, though slow Zhang can actually counter but I think it's Joyce's eyes that cause his loss. He was hit over and over in that right eye. If he can avoid that in this 2nd fight, he will be the victor.
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June 30, 2023, 03:45:46 AM |
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Not used to seeing Chinese being a boxing champ, very surprising that he once upset a fight against an African American with a 93% KO rate. He must be special. He'll gonna have to prove it twice though. Despite Joyce's loss in their first fight, he is still the favorite in this match.
Was intrigued so I watched their first, though slow Zhang can actually counter but I think it's Joyce's eyes that cause his loss. He was hit over and over in that right eye. If he can avoid that in this 2nd fight, he will be the victor.
Yeah, no one saw a 40 year old Chinese HW beat a prime boxer in Joyce. Zhang battered that eyes and shut it down causing the referee to intervene. To be fair with Zhang, he has a long amateur record and a Olympian. So he has that experience years under his belt. And perhaps Joyce might underestimate and never see how tough and powerful his punches are even at his year and this is supposed to be like tune up fight for Joyce.
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...Zhang will prove that he deserves to be taken seriously by the top names in the heavyweight. Zhang can't be taken seriously by the top names in the heavyweight division because he isn't on their level. He stays where he matters and be competitive. Maybe he was just too complacent and think ahead of his fight with Tyson Fury.
Now, everything is back to zero for him, obviously he has to win this fight otherwise no more big payday for him against Fury. Lol. Let's be realistic and accept the fact that Zhang will never ever be given a match against Tyson Fury. If this Chinese old man is thinking he will defeat Joyce the second time around so that he will be having a huge payday when he finally faces Fury, then he is having an illusion. He better just fight and defeat any opponent for its own sake rather than dreaming of a fight against the gypsy king. He should have entered the scene much earlier with his record and perhaps he could have gotten the attention of anybody from the top. I'm not talking about the Chinese here, I'm referring to Joyce, this is supposedly a tune up fight for him, but then he lost his fight so it's back to zero for him. https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12040/12834906/joe-joyce-tyson-fury-and-oleksandr-usyk-will-get-juggernauted-undisputed-has-a-nice-ring-to-itOf the champions' mandatory challengers, Joyce is arguably the leading contender. He has previously beaten Daniel Dubois as a professional and has also defeated Filip Hrgovic in the World Series of Boxing when he was amateur. And this could be the reason why this rematch is immediate for him and his team. He wants to go back and have his name in the discussion for a Fury or Usyk fight if he wins here. Although the hype might not be there as he is no longer undefeated, specially a fight with Fury, all British showdown.
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He wants to go back and have his name in the discussion for a Fury or Usyk fight if he wins here. Although the hype might not be there as he is no longer undefeated, specially a fight with Fury, all British showdown.
Unless he wins in a grand fashion like knocking him out, Joyce is in a hurry to get back into title contention against Fury or Joshua taking a huge risk, because so many rematches are just continuations if done earlier of course with a few exceptions, Joyce must get Zhang respect in the early rounds because on their first fight, Zhang surprisingly overwhelmed Joyce with to many jabs and punches in the first round and it takes a toll on Joyce motivation. Joyce should turn the tide and have to show something different in the first two rounds Zhang will just go forward and pour everything and this is something Joyce should address.
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He wants to go back and have his name in the discussion for a Fury or Usyk fight if he wins here. Although the hype might not be there as he is no longer undefeated, specially a fight with Fury, all British showdown.
Unless he wins in a grand fashion like knocking him out, Joyce is in a hurry to get back into title contention against Fury or Joshua taking a huge risk, because so many rematches are just continuations if done earlier of course with a few exceptions, Joyce must get Zhang respect in the early rounds because on their first fight, Zhang surprisingly overwhelmed Joyce with to many jabs and punches in the first round and it takes a toll on Joyce motivation. Joyce should turn the tide and have to show something different in the first two rounds Zhang will just go forward and pour everything and this is something Joyce should address. That jab though of Zhang, it's really devastating to see that landed on Joyce eye and he has no respond on it. He just keep on plodding as if Zhang is putting a trap on Joyce and working throughout the fight until the referee has to stop it. So in this rematch for sure Joyce has train to move his head a lot, he can't just go square with his face out and then going left to right movement. I'm expecting a big adjustment here and maybe Joyce winning this rematch and moving forward to maybe a fight with any of the British Heavyweight.
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Looks like everyone is rooting for Zhang to win by KO. The first encounter was a major upset, yet most voters still believe that Zhang can replicate the type of victory he had in the first fight. I'm curious about how Joyce will prepare for this fight, and I hope he can bounce back so we can witness a trilogy.
I see this fight as similar to the Joshua vs Andy Ruiz fight, where the former was able to redeem himself in the rematch.
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July 01, 2023, 01:39:54 PM |
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Looks like everyone is rooting for Zhang to win by KO. The first encounter was a major upset, yet most voters still believe that Zhang can replicate the type of victory he had in the first fight. I'm curious about how Joyce will prepare for this fight, and I hope he can bounce back so we can witness a trilogy.
I see this fight as similar to the Joshua vs Andy Ruiz fight, where the former was able to redeem himself in the rematch.
So far the result on the poll Zhang by KO 4 (100%) I hope more members will vote for the possible outcome Joyce has a lot of promise going through the first fight, and I don't think he expected Zhang's jabs and solid punches to get through honestly the way the fight ended and how Joyce suffered a lot I don't think three months of preparation for a new style to beat Zhang is possible and Joyce is not Joshua and Zhang is not Ruiz, but he may adopt Joshua style of hit and run, but the biggest question is can he keep up, the size and the reach is very much the same for this guy. And between the two Zhang is more agile and has a lot of movements and every time I watched the replay of their first fight I am more worried about Joyce for the second match, he needs to see where the punches are coming from, I'm sure his corners have gotten him sparring partners that are southpaws to have familiarity on how southpaws move.
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July 01, 2023, 03:41:23 PM |
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Not used to seeing Chinese being a boxing champ, very surprising that he once upset a fight against an African American with a 93% KO rate. He must be special. He'll gonna have to prove it twice though. Despite Joyce's loss in their first fight, he is still the favorite in this match.
Was intrigued so I watched their first, though slow Zhang can actually counter but I think it's Joyce's eyes that cause his loss. He was hit over and over in that right eye. If he can avoid that in this 2nd fight, he will be the victor.
Yeah, no one saw a 40 year old Chinese HW beat a prime boxer in Joyce. Zhang battered that eyes and shut it down causing the referee to intervene. To be fair with Zhang, he has a long amateur record and a Olympian. So he has that experience years under his belt. And perhaps Joyce might underestimate and never see how tough and powerful his punches are even at his year and this is supposed to be like tune up fight for Joyce. Not quite trivia for a fan, Zhang for sure has long experience before he even got into pro boxing. He got some power in his hands. Joyce was probably too confident during that time, with no worries in his mind fighting an old dog but suddenly got the trouble after a left hook that ruined his eyesight. Fighting with one eye handicapped Joyce in that first fight. I doubt Zhang can win again, I think he was just lucky to have pricked Joyce's eyes that lucky day.
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July 02, 2023, 05:44:56 AM |
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I doubt Zhang can win again, I think he was just lucky to have pricked Joyce's eyes that lucky day.
I hope that's how the bookmakers see this particular fight, so the odds in fight number 1 will still be the same in the rematch. This would give the bettors a huge opportunity to bet on the underdog with very attractive moneyline odds or the KO odds as well.
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July 02, 2023, 09:47:34 AM |
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Looks like everyone is rooting for Zhang to win by KO. The first encounter was a major upset, yet most voters still believe that Zhang can replicate the type of victory he had in the first fight. I'm curious about how Joyce will prepare for this fight, and I hope he can bounce back so we can witness a trilogy.
I see this fight as similar to the Joshua vs Andy Ruiz fight, where the former was able to redeem himself in the rematch.
Maybe but it will still depends on Joyce here and for sure he has a lot of pressure in his shoulder, more than in the first fight. Obviously, he might be overlooking Zhang in the first because he is looking forward to another big pay day fight. But now, he is in a must win situation, so pressure has doubled. So with that, he really needs to prepare 100% here and not make the same mistakes so that he can redeem or maybe with a trilogy, of a big fight with either Tyson Fury or even Anthony Joshua next. So everything rest on him here.
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