[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo - September 30th in Las Vegas

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Canelo Alvarez’s next fight had been rumoured to be Jermall Charlo, but instead it is twin brother Jermell Charlo facing the Mexican on September 30; Canelo is the undisputed world champion at super-middleweight, with Jermell jumping up two weight divisions from super-welterweight

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12912747/canelo-alvarez-to-face-jermell-charlo-in-undisputed-las-vegas-showdown-on-september-30

If anybody sees odds for the fight please share in the thread.

Thanks.

[coin-investor]

This is a big turn of events if this is final then we can request bisdak40 to close the other thread so we can have the discussion here, but whoever Charlo Canelo is fighting, Canelo is still going to win, he can beat both brothers because their style and power is no match against Canelo, it's better than Jermell is the one facing, Jermall has a two year lay off and he'll have ring rust compared to Jermell who has fought last and beat Castano by knock out.
This is more interesting as both fighters are undisputed in their respective division.

[bisdak40]

Wow, this is nuts, i mean of the two Jermall has the higher chance of betting Canelo than Jermell because the latter would jump up two-weight division just to face the unified champion at 168lbs division.

Whoever of the twin brother he will face, surely for me this is cherry-picking at its finest, how come they can't come up with a fight with Benavidez where that would generate more gate revenue than this one?

Will temporarily close the other thread as I think Jermell will be the likely opponent as per the article but no contracts has been signed yet so nothing is set in stone but I would like the discussion to be focused on this thread for now.

[Dave1]

Wow, this is nuts, i mean of the two Jermall has the higher chance of betting Canelo than Jermell because the latter would jump up two-weight division just to face the unified champion at 168lbs division.

Whoever of the twin brother he will face, surely for me this is cherry-picking at its finest, how come they can't come up with a fight with Benavidez where that would generate more gate revenue than this one?

Will temporarily close the other thread as I think Jermell will be the likely opponent as per the article but no contracts has been signed yet so nothing is set in stone but I would like the discussion to be focused on this thread for now.

There are videos circulating, not sure what Canelo fight they are watching, but you can clearly hear him saying that he can beat Canelo.

Now is his chance though, he is going to fight the cash cow and skip Tim and go up and jump to 168 lbs just to fight Alvarez. So this is good as compare to his brother who is inactive. I haven't check the odds though, maybe it will be just the same as his twin. So regardless, it will still be Canelo becoming the favorite in this fight.

[btc_angela]

This is a big turn of events if this is final then we can request bisdak40 to close the other thread so we can have the discussion here, but whoever Charlo Canelo is fighting, Canelo is still going to win, he can beat both brothers because their style and power is no match against Canelo, it's better than Jermell is the one facing, Jermall has a two year lay off and he'll have ring rust compared to Jermell who has fought last and beat Castano by knock out.
This is more interesting as both fighters are undisputed in their respective division.

Or Canelo beating both Charlo's at the same night,  . But I do agree, at least he is fighting a Charlo that at least is active, although he will be coming from a injury. He is supposedly to fight Tszyu early this year. Hopefully Tim will be elevated as full champion now since their fight in not happening as Jermell chooses to fight Alvarez for his biggest payday. I'm excited about it, as we can see a lot of fanfare and thrash talking as well as brothers have a big mouth too. Or will they let respect because they know they don't want to wake up Canelo and put a fire on his belly regarding this fight as it's going to be very dangerous for him. So let's see what route Jermell will go here.

[Baofeng]

Nice, as I have said in the previous thread, everyone might be caught off guard with Jermell now facing Canelo, It's all business for PBC and Charlo and Canelo himself. Perhaps he has read the backlash from the boxing community about him and PBC choosing Jermall as Canelo's dance partner as Jermall is inactive. So they look for the best opponent for Canelo at PBC outside of Benavidez and that is his twin brother Jermell. Weight might be an issue as he is fighting at 154 lbs. Nevertheless he will have all the time in the world to bulk up to 168 lbs and most likely this could be his dream fight or at least both of the Charlo wanted to fight Alvarez. But I guess majority will still favor the natural super middleweight champion in Canelo here.

[Botnake]

I guess people will be seriously talking about this fight, discussing the chances of both boxers. Jermell Charlo is active unlike his brother, so I would expect him to give Canelo a hard time or even defeat him. This is the type of fight that fans would love to see—something that is hard to predict in terms of the winner. Although I believe the bookies would favor Canelo as the favorite to win this fight, who cares? I just think Jermell Charlo is a tough opponent.

[borovichok]

I guess people will be seriously talking about this fight, discussing the chances of both boxers. Jermell Charlo is active unlike his brother, so I would expect him to give Canelo a hard time or even defeat him. This is the type of fight that fans would love to see—something that is hard to predict in terms of the winner. Although I believe the bookies would favor Canelo as the favorite to win this fight, who cares? I just think Jermell Charlo is a tough opponent.

Bookies favored both fighter's, tickets selling faster, who wants to watch the big game. They both have ring experience and know how to take down their opponents, and this time they come into contact with each other completely prepared for the big encounter. Both fighters have a comparable chance of winning, but only one can be triumphant. I'm a fan of both fighters, but I'm obliged to support only one of them. Who will it be? Canelo Alvarez or Jermell Charlo? I'm rooting for Canelo. A challenging bout with no definitive winner in which but the strongest combatants emerge triumphant.

[Kemarit]

I guess people will be seriously talking about this fight, discussing the chances of both boxers. Jermell Charlo is active unlike his brother, so I would expect him to give Canelo a hard time or even defeat him. This is the type of fight that fans would love to see—something that is hard to predict in terms of the winner. Although I believe the bookies would favor Canelo as the favorite to win this fight, who cares? I just think Jermell Charlo is a tough opponent.

Right, at least Jermell is more active and even has a schedule fight that has been postponed and this could be a blessing in disguise as the money will still be with Charlo's, LOL.

And as you have said, Jermell is a live dog so let's see. This could be very well be a competitive fight. Only problem I see is that he will have to go up in weight, but we don't know if he can do it or maybe it will be just easy for him as naturally this twins are bigger boxer at 154-160 lbs.

[Jating]

Wow, this is nuts, i mean of the two Jermall has the higher chance of betting Canelo than Jermell because the latter would jump up two-weight division just to face the unified champion at 168lbs division.

Whoever of the twin brother he will face, surely for me this is cherry-picking at its finest, how come they can't come up with a fight with Benavidez where that would generate more gate revenue than this one?

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

[robelneo]

Wow, this is nuts, i mean of the two Jermall has the higher chance of betting Canelo than Jermell because the latter would jump up two-weight division just to face the unified champion at 168lbs division.

What could be worse than jumping two weight categories or not fighting for two years, either way, both brothers are no match against Canelo, Canelo would not even think if it's Jermell or Jermall he is too good to worry about who's facing the two.

Whoever of the twin brother he will face, surely for me this is cherry-picking at its finest, how come they can't come up with a fight with Benavidez where that would generate more gate revenue than this one?

We all expect that after Benavidez's last fight, Benavidez has been chasing Canelo for the longest time and he is insulting Benavidez by going against Jermell or Jermall or whoever Charlo it will be.

Will temporarily close the other thread as I think Jermell will be the likely opponent as per the article but no contracts has been signed yet so nothing is set in stone but I would like the discussion to be focused on this thread for now.

It's good that you did but we never know, it's still a cherry-picked fight and Canelo will still enjoy the accolade there's the least challenge in this fight.

[Jawhead999]

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

[aioc]

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

Canelo dominated John Ryder that's what I saw it's just that Ryder is one tough guy, Canelo need not win by knocking out his opponents all the time, it's enough that he dominate the fight unanimous decision is still good, I don't rule out an upset on this fight because Jermell has proven his knock out power, for Jermell to have a chance against Canelo he needs to take the initiative and do what Bivol did never step back and do a lot of counter punches.
Jermell is in the fight of his life, and there will be a major shake-up if Jermell upsets Canelo.

[jakelyson]

It is really weird because if you had a twin brother it is OK to be your proxy for the fight rather than to cancel the fight because of Jermell Charlo's hand injury on the sparring and before this, he should be defending his title against Tim Tszyu instead of Canelo Alvarez, but yeah I guess the Tim Tszyu fight was all canceled and right now the Canelo Alvarez should also go into the kitchen sink because it could be another picked fight for Canelo Alvarez, but because of hand injury Jermell Charlo will be having a proxy fighter and this is with the 35 wins and 1 lost and 1 draw, Jermell Charlo, instead of the 32 wins 0 losses Jermall Charlo, Jermell's twin brother,

It should be an undisputed Jermall Charlo instead we will be having Jermell Charlo instead, it was a confusing sight to behold in my opinion, but still a great fight to watch even though we got his most experienced twin brother to fight on Sept 30, in Las Vegas,

[Japinat]

Wow, this is nuts, i mean of the two Jermall has the higher chance of betting Canelo than Jermell because the latter would jump up two-weight division just to face the unified champion at 168lbs division.

Whoever of the twin brother he will face, surely for me this is cherry-picking at its finest, how come they can't come up with a fight with Benavidez where that would generate more gate revenue than this one?

Will temporarily close the other thread as I think Jermell will be the likely opponent as per the article but no contracts has been signed yet so nothing is set in stone but I would like the discussion to be focused on this thread for now.

Doesn't really make sense at all because Jermell have to jump across two weight class just for this fight and I actually agree with you mate, comparing the two, Jermall is much more suitable as he got more talent and just one weight class away from super-middleweight. Although, he is inactive for 2 years but I reckon that he can at least make a difference compared to his brother who is also inactive for more than 1 year.

Whoever of the twin brother he will face, surely for me this is cherry-picking at its finest, how come they can't come up with a fight with Benavidez where that would generate more gate revenue than this one?

With Canelo's recent situation that got his wrist in a surgery, he is no longer sure if he can defend his belts against Benavidez. He can duck and give many reasons but it is already clear for me.

[inthelongrun]

Nice, as I have said in the previous thread, everyone might be caught off guard with Jermell now facing Canelo, It's all business for PBC and Charlo and Canelo himself. Perhaps he has read the backlash from the boxing community about him and PBC choosing Jermall as Canelo's dance partner as Jermall is inactive. So they look for the best opponent for Canelo at PBC outside of Benavidez and that is his twin brother Jermell. Weight might be an issue as he is fighting at 154 lbs. Nevertheless he will have all the time in the world to bulk up to 168 lbs and most likely this could be his dream fight or at least both of the Charlo wanted to fight Alvarez. But I guess majority will still favor the natural super middleweight champion in Canelo here.

Jermell can bulk up and his height is decent at 168. But still, it is 14 pounds added to his body and he is not used to fighting at 168. I also doubt Jermell has the power to back off Canelo. Canelo will be aggressive in this fight and would score a stoppage.

David Benavidez and Jermall Charlo are probably next after Jermell. I doubt there are any other popular names PBC can offer to Canelo's 3-fight deal. WBA regular, David Morrell would've been perfect together with WBC interim David Benavidez but the former's market can be a problem knowing that PBC invested a lot of money to get Canelo and it needs to make marketable fights in order to profit from the deal.

[freedomgo]

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

Canelo dominated John Ryder that's what I saw it's just that Ryder is one tough guy, Canelo need not win by knocking out his opponents all the time, it's enough that he dominate the fight unanimous decision is still good, I don't rule out an upset on this fight because Jermell has proven his knock out power, for Jermell to have a chance against Canelo he needs to take the initiative and do what Bivol did never step back and do a lot of counter punches.
Jermell is in the fight of his life, and there will be a major shake-up if Jermell upsets Canelo.

And let's not forget that Canelo might have felt uncomfortable at that time as he just had a surgery a couple of months prior the fight, he just had to face John Ryder in-order to keep him warm while avoiding the risk of inactivity. Canelo got all the plans set and fighting Charlo is included in it, and I can tell that he will not let go of Bivol until he can get that deal done because it is still a win-win situation for him.

As per Jermell Charlo, no offense but I don't really see him winning against Canelo because he will face a very tough challenge for jumping two divisions and facing the strongest boxer in SMW directly. He will have no time to adjust as that will literally take some time off his clock.

[bbc.reporter]

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

I very much agree. It appears for this fight Canelo only wants to collect money before his next real challenge which will be another round of negotiations for a rematch vs. Bivol. I speculate that he also does not want to fight Benavidez because it is risky and Canelo will lose his opportunity for Bivol if he is not the champion.

Canelo vs. Charlo is similar to an altcoin ICO. Hype it then take the money. Fans go home shaking their heads after watching an ordinary fight hehe.

[btc_angela]

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

Canelo dominated John Ryder that's what I saw it's just that Ryder is one tough guy, Canelo need not win by knocking out his opponents all the time, it's enough that he dominate the fight unanimous decision is still good, I don't rule out an upset on this fight because Jermell has proven his knock out power, for Jermell to have a chance against Canelo he needs to take the initiative and do what Bivol did never step back and do a lot of counter punches.
Jermell is in the fight of his life, and there will be a major shake-up if Jermell upsets Canelo.

Yes, although we can score it as bad performance because we are used to Canelo taking down his opponents with body shots, but after he has his second lost from the hands of Bivol Canelo with his hand injuries could have back off at least and test how good or bad his hands is.

And Ryder is huge and one tough fighter, that's why Canelo has a hard time to knocking his down and I will say that he could be bigger than Canelo fight now. So the heavier your opponent, the chances of him going down are slim unless you soften him up which Canelo can't accomplished because again, Ryder is very game opponent for him and did take Canelo's best shot.

[Yaunfitda]

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

I very much agree. It appears for this fight Canelo only wants to collect money before his next real challenge which will be another round of negotiations for a rematch vs. Bivol. I speculate that he also does not want to fight Benavidez because it is risky and Canelo will lose his opportunity for Bivol if he is not the champion.

Canelo vs. Charlo is similar to an altcoin ICO. Hype it then take the money. Fans go home shaking their heads after watching an ordinary fight hehe.

But Canelo is no longer with Eddie Hearn, he has moved to PBC and Al Haymon, and maybe it's very tough to do the negotiations for the rematch for Bivol. If he really wanted a rematch then he could at least agree for a 1 fight deal with Hearn. But Canelo doesn't want any of that, Bivol is too fast for him to deal with.

Now, facing another Charlo, this time is the active now. So yeah, 3 fight deal and the first fight is going to be easy for him.

And as you have said, just to collect money and in the next 2 fights, probably the bigger Benavidez but we will have to wait and see.