[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo - September 30th in Las Vegas

[btc_angela]

For Charlo to beat Canelo, he has to be quicker. It's true that Canelo has a solid chin, which makes it very dangerous to go toe to toe with him. Even the bigger Bivol couldn't knock him out despite his size advantage and fighting in his natural weight. Mayweather understood that as well; he used his quickness to score points throughout the 12 rounds, which is why he dominated Canelo.

We must remember that Charlo is adding mass on his body so he can't be quicker than he used to be at 154lbs division so most likely he need to go toe to toe with Canelo once in a while to test how strong Canelo's punch and if he could hurt him but most likely he won't hurt Canelo and he will just fight to survive but i'm hoping that in the later rounds, Canelo would catch Charlo's chin and knock him out cold.

Mayweather's defensive strategy is one of a kind that's why Canelo was having a hard time catching the former and besides he was still so young that time.

Floyd said that he fight Canelo when he was 36 years old and Canelo 23 years old. So Canelo is still very young and if I'm not mistaken, it's the first time that Canelo fought in the US as he usually just fight in Mexico that time.

And I do agree that adding mass on Charlo could be two fold, well he might absorb the power of Canelo, or he could slow him down because he is not used to this kind of body when fighting. So in the early rounds, maybe he could stay, but as soon as we hit the middle rounds, we might see Charlo slowing down a bit and huffing because of that extra weight in him.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

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it does not look that Charlo is two divisions below Canelo. I have no doubts that Canelo gonna win, but Charlo gonna cause him troubles for sure. We would see different Charlo, because he did not have to cut weight to fit into 154. I would not call it a disadvantage for his to fight in new weight class. In fact he risks nothing, as he went up to Canelo territory. While Canelo could lose belts, in case of a loss, Charlo looses nothing. When there is low to lose, he might show different boxing.

Their heights might be somewhat deceiving. We've seen Tank Davis fight taller fighters who were coming up to his weight but it was still a mismatch because of the power difference and being better acclimated to the weight. Canelo is used to fighting bigger and stronger fighters like Kovalev, Callum Smith, and Caleb Plant. Charlo might be able to make weight comfortably but that does not mean he will be able to sustain the punches from Canelo who is by far the heaviest hitter he has faced.

And to add to that, this is his first time to go to 168 lbs, so his power hasn't been tested, although we can see that he has it at 154 lbs. But this is new weight class for him. His body could adjust to the weight, no doubt about that, but can he bring his power to super middle weight?

That could only be answer inside the ring, if he tasted Canelo's power and how he will respond. But as far as Canelo goes, as you have said, he has face a lot of good boxers throughout his career, to be included there is GGG. But no one has the blue print yet to crack that solid chin of Canelo.

For Charlo to beat Canelo, he has to be quicker. It's true that Canelo has a solid chin, which makes it very dangerous to go toe to toe with him. Even the bigger Bivol couldn't knock him out despite his size advantage and fighting in his natural weight. Mayweather understood that as well; he used his quickness to score points throughout the 12 rounds, which is why he dominated Canelo.

Canelo is still a rookie that time, and Floyd about on his peak that's why the defensive genius just school Canelo that time. And that's why Floyd fight though, uses his skills to dominate so that is nothing unusual about that fight except that Canelo get a lot of experienced. And he didn't lost for a long time after that fight until Bivol beat him at LHW.

For Charlo to beat Canelo, he needs to be consistent for full 12 rounds and he shouldn't let his guard down as Canelo is good at spotting your weak point. Charlo could land some good blows on Canelo, but the again, the iron chin of Canelo is hard to crack as no one had done it before. Just look at Canelo's jaw line though and his neck.

[inthelongrun]

The weigh-in is done and the fighters are ready. Both Canelo and Jermell weighed 167.4 pounds. Canelo seems to be more smiling since his arrival in Las Vegas for this weekend event. He is in good spirits which is very important. Jermell is also pumped ready and hungry to create his own legacy.

I expect Canelo the heavier fighter come fight night. I expect Charlo to fight smart, use his jab, and stay away from Canelo. The biggest question however is the quickness of Jermell since he is moving up 2 weight divisions and he is also more than a year inactive.

The odds favored a decision since it is expected that Jermell will stay away from close encounters and will try to use his range as much as possible. But if he is feeling heavy on his feet then Canelo should be able to corner him, slow him down with his body punches, and stop him in the late rounds.

Another title fight tomorrow via DAZN, Jai Opetaia's first defense of his IBF cruiserweight belt against Jordan Thompson. Both are heavy handed so this fight might have more action than the Canelo-Charlo duel.

[btc_angela]

Charlo already looks huge in the image, so I doubt that he will have to add some weight fight night. But as you have said, Canelo might rehydrate here, come maybe around 172-175 lbs'ish for this fight and I think this is what he usually weight during fight night.

And I do agree that since there are no trash talking in the pre-fight, it's good to see Canelo just relax and laughing. And I just thought about Manny's demeanor during that fight as well. But in the ring we can see totally a different person as Manny destroys his opponent. So let's see how Canelo proved his critics wrong by beating Charlo.

[Dave1]

Charlo already looks huge in the image, so I doubt that he will have to add some weight fight night. But as you have said, Canelo might rehydrate here, come maybe around 172-175 lbs'ish for this fight and I think this is what he usually weight during fight night.

He should be, as he is the taller and so there's room for him to make more weight on that kind of frame. But we don't know if can can translate to more power on him or not.

And I do agree that since there are no trash talking in the pre-fight, it's good to see Canelo just relax and laughing. And I just thought about Manny's demeanor during that fight as well. But in the ring we can see totally a different person as Manny destroys his opponent. So let's see how Canelo proved his critics wrong by beating Charlo.

We will see, this fight is critical to Canelo as a lost means that he really lost some of his power or maybe the competition in him is no longer there. Just like other great boxers before him who suddenly lost the fire inside of them and can't pull the trigger anymore.

[bbc.reporter]

Charlo already looks huge in the image, so I doubt that he will have to add some weight fight night. But as you have said, Canelo might rehydrate here, come maybe around 172-175 lbs'ish for this fight and I think this is what he usually weight during fight night.

And I do agree that since there are no trash talking in the pre-fight, it's good to see Canelo just relax and laughing. And I just thought about Manny's demeanor during that fight as well. But in the ring we can see totally a different person as Manny destroys his opponent. So let's see how Canelo proved his critics wrong by beating Charlo.

I reckon in the ring after eating and rehydration, Canelo will have more than enough weight to fight in the light heavyweight division hehehe. Also, it appears that much of the fans and the bettors agree that this fight will end on a decision. We cannot be certain on this. Canelo might end this fight with a knockout in the 7th round because this is not vs. John Ryder where Canelo was bored. This is vs. Charlo! Canelo wants to show everyone that he is not the fighter his fans have witnessed vs. Ryder!

[robelneo]

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[bbc.reporter]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

[coin-investor]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

This is too easy for Canelo, all Charlo did was run and hug and in the interview, he had a hard time explaining what happened to him, great boxing for Canelo he just shows that he still has it and yeah it seems Benavidez is the only fighter that can give him a decent fight in his division or he can do a rematch against Bivol there is really nothing in the super middleweight that can match Canelo's superiority.

He is the man to beat and he will continue to be on the Ring magazine pound for pound as long as no one beats him decisively like what Bivol did, we'll wait for news on his next fight and the boxing needs a fighter that can give Canelo a good match up in the ring.

[robelneo]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

Charlo is not fighting to win he is just here for the money so he just runs away and wants to survive the fight, this is a big disappointment, Charlo is all talks but cannot bring anything into the ring and now he wants to challenge Terence Crawford, Canelo should stop fighting fighters who just want to make money and go for fighters who deserves to challenge him and Benavidez could be the right guy for this.

There's no other fight but a Benavidez or a Bivol rematch, this a more challenging fight than another Charlo-like fight.

[Jating]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

Hopefully, it will be Benavidez next for Canelo. Benavidez has been calling Canelo out and hopefully this fight can be done. And it's really hard to see Canelo stopping at this point, when we thought that he could be done based on his last performance, he come up big against Charlo and dominated the fight from round 1.

I also gave Charlo just one round in this contest, he seems to be very tentative and that body shot, he might have felt it already that's why the game plan wasn't executed even though he is the bigger guy here.

Or maybe we can see Canelo vs Crawford?

[Silberman]

Charlo is not fighting to win he is just here for the money so he just runs away and wants to survive the fight, this is a big disappointment, Charlo is all talks but cannot bring anything into the ring and now he wants to challenge Terence Crawford, Canelo should stop fighting fighters who just want to make money and go for fighters who deserves to challenge him and Benavidez could be the right guy for this.

There's no other fight but a Benavidez or a Bivol rematch, this a more challenging fight than another Charlo-like fight.

Canelo is kind of stuck and cannot move forward, it is obvious the plan was to beat Bivol and move to the light heavyweight division, but after he was dominated by Bivol those plans had to be scratched at least for the short term, so he does not have much options left, if he still does not feel ready for Bivol then the only option that remains is Benavidez, however I am sure this is not really what he wants and if it was up to him he would try to challenge Bivol again so he can finally move up a division.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

Benavidez is the only fighter worth mentioning. A rematch with Bivol would be a one sided snoozefest. Crawford is too small and would lose similarly to Charlo. Benavidez never lost his belt in the ring and is the current mandatory. Canelo said he didn’t care who was next so there is no excuse for Haymon not to make the fight everybody wants to see.

[Viscore]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

Benavidez is the only fighter worth mentioning. A rematch with Bivol would be a one sided snoozefest. Crawford is too small and would lose similarly to Charlo. Benavidez never lost his belt in the ring and is the current mandatory. Canelo said he didn’t care who was next so there is no excuse for Haymon not to make the fight everybody wants to see.

It's worth mentioning these three, actually. Without a doubt, Canelo beat Charlo easily. Whoever comes first among the three names mentioned, it's always okay. But I'm sure promoters will try to prioritize which fighter to pair with Canelo to generate more money. With that said, I think Crawford is the top priority. That way, if Crawford really struggles in carrying his power, Canelo's camp would ensure they'll have an easy win but with a bigger reward.

Next in line is probably Benavidez. Currently, he is the boxer that I think would really match Canelo. I'm not sure if Canelo will win, but if he does, then the finale would be to avenge his loss to Bivol.

[danherbias07]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

Charlo is not fighting to win he is just here for the money so he just runs away and wants to survive the fight, this is a big disappointment, Charlo is all talks but cannot bring anything into the ring and now he wants to challenge Terence Crawford, Canelo should stop fighting fighters who just want to make money and go for fighters who deserves to challenge him and Benavidez could be the right guy for this.

There's no other fight but a Benavidez or a Bivol rematch, this a more challenging fight than another Charlo-like fight.

Yeah, the fight against John Ryder was better, way better because Ryder was fighting in Canelo's hometown Mexico and yet he showed some resistance against Canelo and even scored back in the final rounds.
But in this fight against Charlo, he ain't even punching back in high amounts like he ain't the challenger, it is a disappointing waste of time and money for those who paid PPV.

Alvarez outlanded Charlo by a margin of 134 to 71, according to CompuBox. He landed 35% of his punches overall and 40% of his power connects, including a 42 to 11 advantage in body shots

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It's obvious when a boxer badly wants the title from the champion, but in this fight, I didn't see that.
But here is what Charlo said.

"I don't make excuses for myself so it is what it is," Charlo said. "I took my punches but this is boxing. You win some and you lose some.

"You could feel the difference in weight because I came up 12 pounds. I was daring to be great today. I took the shots and just kept pushing."

He says he never makes excuses and yet he talked about going up 12 pounds. Well, in my dictionary that's an excuse.
I agree with you guys, Bivol might be the best match the organization could offer to the fans and make this more entertaining.
I think I expected too much for Charlo and his words got into me, I didn't know he would be that bad and yes, it almost looks like he is just aiming for the money. Well, he will receive it but I what about the reputation? This theories and gossips will come out and he will definitely see it.

[btc_angela]

Charlo already looks huge in the image, so I doubt that he will have to add some weight fight night. But as you have said, Canelo might rehydrate here, come maybe around 172-175 lbs'ish for this fight and I think this is what he usually weight during fight night.

And I do agree that since there are no trash talking in the pre-fight, it's good to see Canelo just relax and laughing. And I just thought about Manny's demeanor during that fight as well. But in the ring we can see totally a different person as Manny destroys his opponent. So let's see how Canelo proved his critics wrong by beating Charlo.

I reckon in the ring after eating and rehydration, Canelo will have more than enough weight to fight in the light heavyweight division hehehe. Also, it appears that much of the fans and the bettors agree that this fight will end on a decision. We cannot be certain on this. Canelo might end this fight with a knockout in the 7th round because this is not vs. John Ryder where Canelo was bored. This is vs. Charlo! Canelo wants to show everyone that he is not the fighter his fans have witnessed vs. Ryder!

Your prediction was almost correct mate, Charlo went down in round 7, but wasn't knockout. But yes, as I expected, Canelo rehydrated very well and looks the heavier of the two.

Charlo doesn't look to fight though, he has wanted to have his biggest paycheck. Coming from a long lay-off and hand injuries, and then he think he can beat Canelo at his comfortable weight class and himself coming from 154 lbs to 168 lbs? Credits to Canelo, after a lackluster performance against John Ryder, he comes back and demolished the supposedly Charlo that will knock him out.

[Japinat]

Next in line is probably Benavidez. Currently, he is the boxer that I think would really match Canelo. I'm not sure if Canelo will win, but if he does, then the finale would be to avenge his loss to Bivol.

Maybe we will see a good fight that time. However, I think that fight is not going to happen this year. We are already in the last quarter of the year, and Canelo has already had 2 fights. I think he will rest in the remaining months and enjoy the money he earned this year. Benavidez also has a great record, but I believe he is not on Canelo's level. He's probably just on the same level as Charlo, the boxer that Canelo beat today. Canelo's biggest challenge is Bivol; therefore, the rematch should happen.

[bisdak40]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

Moving two divisions upward is a trend and Terrence Crawford has been vocal in the last few months that he is open or interested in fighting Canelo and the latter has also shown interest to Crawford's proposal so i will not be surprised if one day, Canelo vs Crawford will be announce because a fight with Bivol or Benavidez is something that i don't see to happen next year.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

Moving two divisions upward is a trend and Terrence Crawford has been vocal in the last few months that he is open or interested in fighting Canelo and the latter has also shown interest to Crawford's proposal so i will not be surprised if one day, Canelo vs Crawford will be announce because a fight with Bivol or Benavidez is something that i don't see to happen next year.

But not sure if Crawford will have to continue with that goal, jumping 3 weight class and fight Canelo. Perhaps it is was a different Canelo here, but Alvarez is still sharp and that body shot that he throws in an angle, it really hurt I guess that's why Charlo is very tentative in this fight and can't even throw a decent combination to even hurt Canelo. And so with that, Canelo just go and steam roll Charlo not worried about the power because he knows that he can take it. And as what we could have seen, maybe after round 1, he just wanted to survived and be on the pay check only.

[Baofeng]

Charlo already looks huge in the image, so I doubt that he will have to add some weight fight night. But as you have said, Canelo might rehydrate here, come maybe around 172-175 lbs'ish for this fight and I think this is what he usually weight during fight night.

And I do agree that since there are no trash talking in the pre-fight, it's good to see Canelo just relax and laughing. And I just thought about Manny's demeanor during that fight as well. But in the ring we can see totally a different person as Manny destroys his opponent. So let's see how Canelo proved his critics wrong by beating Charlo.

I reckon in the ring after eating and rehydration, Canelo will have more than enough weight to fight in the light heavyweight division hehehe. Also, it appears that much of the fans and the bettors agree that this fight will end on a decision. We cannot be certain on this. Canelo might end this fight with a knockout in the 7th round because this is not vs. John Ryder where Canelo was bored. This is vs. Charlo! Canelo wants to show everyone that he is not the fighter his fans have witnessed vs. Ryder!

Charlo though said that he is around 173 lbs and perhaps Canelo as well around the light weight limit during the fight. It ended in a decision on the side of Canelo and as what we have been speculating, maybe the added weight on Charlo was a bad idea + ring rust.

Charlo in the post fight he said that he wanted to fight Crawford next at 154 lbs. But based on his performance or at least as per Crawford,

Ok y’all I’m over
@TwinCharlo
he’s no longer on my hit list. He went out there and laid down and let Canelo spank him like he was his daddy with no type of resistance.😂

https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1708353103702159586

For Canelo saying that he should fight Benavidez next, here is what he says,

“I don’t know, but I don’t f*cking care”

https://twitter.com/dantheboxingman/status/1708345755231306029