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July 02, 2023, 05:59:08 PM
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Bitcointalk has so many Topics that even some newbies don't know about even myself and those topics are very important. I've being wondering why some of these interesting topics are not always active like we forget about them that easy and it makes users who are not aware of it to even open a similar one and before you know it you start seeing links from nowhere that are related.

The thing is why can't we continue to keep those topics alive instead we over look them even when we have something to talk about, we prefer going for new topics.

How can we keep those topics alive instead of dumping them and allowing dust to cloud them?

If you see in some sections like Meta , Beginners & Help, and many others, there are some pinned threads that are important, and they will always be on the top. There may be other threads that are important too but if no one post a reply on them, they will usually go down and with the amount of post and topics we have in bitcointalk, it is difficult to track them.

Keeping the topic bumping won't make it useful as there will be a lot of spamming etc. I guess most topics fulfill the purpose and if any newbie or any member requires the same information, they may open up a new topic and maybe they get updated knowledge on that topic.

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July 02, 2023, 10:51:05 PM
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I really understood what you meant, even if you did not explain yourself very well. When I was new, I think I have made such a suggestion. I understood that there are some helpful and rich information that are being buried in the old threads.
I actually proposed that there be a dedicated day for bumping  of old threads. But as I grow in the community I have a better understanding of the system.
There is a search button for anyone who needs such information from old threads. If old threads are all alive, you will discover that there are some information which were correct 5 years ago but no longer correct today. At a time the discussion in a particular thread is exhausted.

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July 03, 2023, 01:09:28 PM
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OP,  the answers you will receive would still point towards the same direction but however, old topics are not bad but to some certain extent, when the thread starts prolonging, the possibility of the topic being not relevant increases and it would definitely result to being Spam if someone revives it on the later. Just as upgrade00 has said I believe that would better explain itself properly.

There is no point reviving old topics or threads when there are new fresh topics of concerns to be attended to and it would be nice those old topics are allowed to rest it has always been.

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July 03, 2023, 03:31:27 PM
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Bitcointalk has so many Topics that even some newbies don't know about even myself and those topics are very important.

You cannot know everything or be good at everything, we all have our strong areas of performances and weak points as well, being a newbie, post when it's needed and read or continue learning if possible till you have something to offer, not a must to post when there's nothing to pass across.

I've being wondering why some of these interesting topics are not always active like we forget about them that easy and it makes users who are not aware of it to even open a similar one and before you know it you start seeing links from nowhere that are related.

There are pinned threads, there are bumped threads and some topics always receives daily discussion on them because they are always having one or more discussion to talk about on such thread, but when there's no need or matter arising on a particular thread, you don't have to bump it up.

The thing is why can't we continue to keep those topics alive instead we over look them even when we have something to talk about, we prefer going for new topics.

why do you think we listen to news, it's just to get updates on the trending event happening in cryptocurrency and we can post them here to have proper discussion on them, they may appears as questions, answers, contributions, ideas and suggestions, research and discovery or trending news updates.

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July 03, 2023, 09:09:27 PM
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AFAIK not many persons have interest in making comments on a thread that is 10 pages above no matter how interesting or enlightening the thread discussion is, this is because they feel there's nothing more to talk about. And humanly speaking humans are too quick to let go of the old and embrace the new not just in the forum but in our everyday real life so am not surprised if good or interesting topics are forgotten after a period of time in the forum.

There are great topics that made sense yesteryears but doesn't anymore that's because they don't meet current situations and changes. If anyone happens to pick on a  good topic that looks outdated and has long been forgotten and he sees a need to exhume such topic by refurbishing up informations and resource that meets with current changes, am quite sure such ingenuity would be welcomed with fleets of modern discussions.

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July 03, 2023, 09:53:53 PM
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There are great topics that made sense yesteryears but doesn't anymore that's because they don't meet current situations and changes. If anyone happens to pick on a  good topic that looks outdated and has long been forgotten and he sees a need to exhume such topic by refurbishing up informations and resource that meets with current changes, am quite sure such ingenuity would be welcomed with fleets of modern discussions.
There are situations when old and outdated topics can be bumped - but only if there is something sensible and important to add. Whereas if it is not that important or no longer relevant to the current situation and developments - then get one of yours.

This warning can be found when you want to reply to an old topic - so make your own judgment if you want to revive an old topic.

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The thing is why can't we continue to keep those topics alive instead we overlook them even when we have something to talk about, we prefer going for new topics.
When those topics have 50 or more pages, so many of the posts become redundant and so many posts are not related to the main topics because it goes astray like the topic is about trading and it ends with topics about particular altcoins which has nothing to do with the trading topic.

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How can we keep those topics alive instead of dumping them and allowing dust to cloud them?
If the topic will add value to all members mods can pin it, or if you want to use it as your own reference you can bookmark it or compile it and there's no topic that gets dust even topics that are a year or decade old are indexed by Google search and will always come up when queried.



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July 03, 2023, 11:08:12 PM
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Bitcointalk has so many Topics that even some newbies don't know about even myself and those topics are very important. I've being wondering why some of these interesting topics are not always active like we forget about them that easy and it makes users who are not aware of it to even open a similar one and before you know it you start seeing links from nowhere that are related.

The thing is why can't we continue to keep those topics alive instead we over look them even when we have something to talk about, we prefer going for new topics.

How can we keep those topics alive instead of dumping them and allowing dust to cloud them?

as an OP or not, sometimes you need to bump a topic that you think is important and must be maintained instead of seeing newbies who have just registered and give questions that are similar to the old topics that you think are important.

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This warning can be found when you want to reply to an old topic - so make your own judgment if you want to revive an old topic.

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Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
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right, before bumping a topic, usually a warning like the one above will appear, and it's back to us, do you really have the intention to continue bumping on an old topic or see some members keep doing the same question (this is what I often see in the gambling section)




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July 04, 2023, 03:11:29 AM
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Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.

That's not a big deal, is just to notify whosoever wants to bump a topic that have stayed for more than 120 days if he or she wants to continue, is not that you're breaking any of the rules guiding this platform or whatever the case seems to be. Is like the forum sees it as less importance to go on with it but is still left for you to continue or not, at first when I bumped a topic I thought it wasn't meant to be (after seeing that message) until I continued, that was when I discovered that it was ok not that I did something outside the Forum rules.

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July 04, 2023, 08:13:24 PM
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Some old topics doesn't need a bump at all and everyone can find it if they search for it. If you want to know different topics then you should visit the thread created for newbies that contains different topics and its link. It is called Beginners & Help Encyclopedia. When bumping an old topic, there's a warning and it woulf say it's much better to create new thread for it because some old topics are not useful as it was like the authenticator where what people use before is google authenticator but now there's another authenticator that people now recommend to use. As they have said, there's no point in keeping it alive when people are no longer interested to keep the discussion or there's nothing to add more to the topic.

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That's not a big deal, is just to notify whosoever wants to bump a topic that have stayed for more than 120 days if he or she wants to continue, is not that you're breaking any of the rules guiding this platform or whatever the case seems to be. Is like the forum sees it as less importance to go on with it but is still left for you to continue or not, at first when I bumped a topic I thought it wasn't meant to be (after seeing that message) until I continued, that was when I discovered that it was ok not that I did something outside the Forum rules.
First - it's not a rule, but just a warning that lets you think twice before posting or bumping the thread. If you feel the need to bump the thread - then by all means you can do it, but only if your content is still relevant or you add something genuinely useful to continue the discussion.

Some users ignore the warning because they really want to bring a dead horse to life due to the difficulty finding topics that are easier to reply to than others. In the end - the shitposters and spammers blow up - it happens a lot.

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July 05, 2023, 06:42:19 AM
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Bitcointalk has so many Topics that even some newbies don't know about even myself and those topics are very important. I've being wondering why some of these interesting topics are not always active like we forget about them that easy and it makes users who are not aware of it to even open a similar one and before you know it you start seeing links from nowhere that are related.

The thing is why can't we continue to keep those topics alive instead we over look them even when we have something to talk about, we prefer going for new topics.

How can we keep those topics alive instead of dumping them and allowing dust to cloud them?
Using the search button before creating any thread is important to avoid repetition which could lead to spamming. If you also need any information about an issue, the search option will also be more helpful than creating a thread.

But it will not be wrong to derive inspiration from an old thread you think is important. Every day there are discoveries and improvements in the bitcoin community, it will be a just course to review some of them and make them current. You can add more information and upgrade outdated content making it conform to current realities. Indicating that you got the inspiration from the old thread and dropping the link is important to avoid plagiarism.

When you are informed that the topic you just created already exists, the best option is to lock the thread and refer to the old thread to get your answers.

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To play the Devil's advocate, I would rather have the same topics posted from time to time.

Why? Because Google indexes the topics by their posted date so seeing a discussion from 2010 is outdated compared to one in 2023. And not everyone has the time to read from the top to bottom.


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How can we keep those topics alive instead of dumping them and allowing dust to cloud them?
Very nice idea!
But how about using the search tool in the forum instead. Both forum's and google search will handle it.
Besides, information gets outdated and discussion in every thread at a point dies off naturally. Not a good idea to resurrect them.

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Your problem is not in making these topics active, but in how to search for them. If you learn how to search efficiently, we will find that most of the questions you asked have been answered, and if there is something new you can ask.

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New threads will always come with attention. Bitcoin is not a dormant niche, new problems, information and difficulties needs to get solved in the bitcoin community. This led to the existence of abandoned threads. Every forum under a trending niche, must have such threads. If the problem has been solved why waste more time on it. Bitcointalk members create a good number of threads everyday, and everyone's attention goes mostly to the new problems, questions or information. Most of the quality old threads still exist in the forum, if anybody want's to read about it, they can decide to look it up and study enough responses under the thread.

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In fact, I missed a lot of old topics of great value because it is difficult for me or most members to browse all the forum topics because they are too many.

Therefore, I find it good when an old topic floats to the surface for members who were not able to participate at the time the topic was created to see. When a member post on an old topic that floats to the surface, this is a good opportunity to revive the old topic for discussion again.

Although there are a lot of similar topics, sometimes there are old topics that are very valuable and it is good to revive them again.

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New threads will always come with attention. Bitcoin is not a dormant niche, new problems, information and difficulties needs to get solved in the bitcoin community. This led to the existence of abandoned threads. Every forum under a trending niche, must have such threads. If the problem has been solved why waste more time on it. Bitcointalk members create a good number of threads everyday, and everyone's attention goes mostly to the new problems, questions or information. Most of the quality old threads still exist in the forum, if anybody want's to read about it, they can decide to look it up and study enough responses under the thread.


Yeah, I agree with you. Every day, new trends or more interesting topics are created on the forum. It could be a problem, an update, or a solution to an already existing problem. Just like you mentioned. But sometimes newbies really don't know how to search through the forum, and while there is still a well-informed thread on how to search effectively, most of them have not come across those threads. What I can just suggest for newbies is to open a new thread and ask questions about what they are not aware of. At that point, they could get other old users to recommend those old helpful threads to them.



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July 13, 2023, 01:38:02 AM
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Your problem is not in making these topics active, but in how to search for them. If you learn how to search efficiently, we will find that most of the questions you asked have been answered, and if there is something new you can ask.

Keeping those topics active is my problem not searching for them, if I search for them and ignore them how can I keep them active? The thing is, we the users just like striking on new topics more than the old ones, nothing is bad if we make some research on those old topics and bring those crazy and interesting argument to live again. I know is hard but we could try.

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July 18, 2023, 04:17:03 PM
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To me I can say it's not really about the topic been old or new, maybe it's because most of us don't really have replies to so many threads on this platform, someone might see a topic and may have no clue on what to reply, he/she will just skip and look for something simple to reply on or post.

I think it's not really about reversing old threads or something because I believe everyone have an access to any topic here and can make replies, except perhaps topics that are been locked by a moderator.

I only see it that members only reply to topics they have something to post about and leave the ones they have nothing to post about,
Even if you try to keep an old topic alive, a member that has no clue about the old topic will still keep mute, but reply the ones they could....

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