Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk.

[MAAManda]

Like I said in one of my previous comment, not sure if it's one this thread, but I did say that gambling addiction is of many stages, the stage at which the gamblers addiction is, will very much determine or play the role of how easy or hard it can be to quit gambling and free one self from that addiction..

Quiting gambling after being tormented by addiction all start by strong self will to stop, then the level of stage of addiction will tell if strong self will is able to carry the gambler and keep him or her away from gambling, or will require the help of a relation or relative, or maybe a professional medical personnel for a medical help.

Can you attach any articles I can read about addiction consisting of many stages? Because AFAIK, problem gambling has its own phases, not stages. Here are the phases:

- Winning phase
- Losing phase
- Desperation phase
- Hopeless phase

Source: https://psychcentral.com/addictions/four-phases-and-steps-of-gambling-addiction#phases-of-gambling-addiction

So, whatever the gambling problem is, no matter how deeply a gambler loses and becomes a problem gambler who is addicted, the solution is still same, there's no difference.

[btc78]

i missed OP , after weeks of activities and creating questionable threads? now hes gone and seemingly to understand his mistakes .

[traderethereum]

Like I said in one of my previous comment, not sure if it's one this thread, but I did say that gambling addiction is of many stages, the stage at which the gamblers addiction is, will very much determine or play the role of how easy or hard it can be to quit gambling and free one self from that addiction..

Quiting gambling after being tormented by addiction all start by strong self will to stop, then the level of stage of addiction will tell if strong self will is able to carry the gambler and keep him or her away from gambling, or will require the help of a relation or relative, or maybe a professional medical personnel for a medical help.

Can you attach any articles I can read about addiction consisting of many stages?

So, whatever the gambling problem is, no matter how deeply a gambler loses and becomes a problem gambler who is addicted, the solution is still same, there's no difference.

Maybe you can read this article:

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https://americanaddictioncenters.org/the-addiction-cycle

There explained the stages of addiction but I do not know which article is meant.
I know that addiction has signs, stages, phases or whatever it's called, and if we are already in a certain sign/stage/phase, we may already be addicted.
And I agree with you that the solution will remain the same: to try to realize the gambling addiction, have a strong desire to change, and so on.
Without having it all, it will be difficult for someone to cure his gambling addiction.

[AbuBhakar]

i missed OP , after weeks of activities and creating questionable threads? now hes gone and seemingly to understand his mistakes .

There’s nothing to be missed on the OP, Also who knows if he really gone or he will just use different account to start again since his old account is just a newbie. I believe his goal on creating questionable topic is already clear now when he created his ponzi scheme program. He planned everything to catch attention here and hoping someone will believe on his dumb attept to scam user here with his ponzi that has very expensive fees.

Don’t be surprised if another mewbie do this same patetrn of scam attempt in the future.

[Jody.Drummer]

i missed OP , after weeks of activities and creating questionable threads? now hes gone and seemingly to understand his mistakes .

There’s nothing to be missed on the OP, Also who knows if he really gone or he will just use different account to start again since his old account is just a newbie. I believe his goal on creating questionable topic is already clear now when he created his ponzi scheme program. He planned everything to catch attention here and hoping someone will believe on his dumb attept to scam user here with his ponzi that has very expensive fees.

Don’t be surprised if another mewbie do this same patetrn of scam attempt in the future.

Yes, it is a mode that will definitely be done, no matter what. Now unfortunately there are many who are aware of things like this, especially in this space is a lot of very experienced people will refute everything that smells of fraud and it is very good to help beginners who do not know anything to understand and ultimately avoid all the scams that will be carried out by irresponsible people.

I am very happy when I see many people helping each other, especially eradicating all the modes of fraud that we now encounter. And sadly they will not care who they will deceive.
We should not give full trust, even though it may be someone we know.

[worle1bm]

i missed OP , after weeks of activities and creating questionable threads? now hes gone and seemingly to understand his mistakes .

There’s nothing to be missed on the OP, Also who knows if he really gone or he will just use different account to start again since his old account is just a newbie. I believe his goal on creating questionable topic is already clear now when he created his ponzi scheme program. He planned everything to catch attention here and hoping someone will believe on his dumb attept to scam user here with his ponzi that has very expensive fees.

Don’t be surprised if another mewbie do this same patetrn of scam attempt in the future.

They are just doing it with newbie account because they know even if any action is taken against them they will do the same work with another account and start these new scam attempts to attract new victims.If we trust them blindly then it's completely our mistake as we should do all the research first of all.

[klidex]

i missed OP , after weeks of activities and creating questionable threads? now hes gone and seemingly to understand his mistakes .

There’s nothing to be missed on the OP, Also who knows if he really gone or he will just use different account to start again since his old account is just a newbie. I believe his goal on creating questionable topic is already clear now when he created his ponzi scheme program. He planned everything to catch attention here and hoping someone will believe on his dumb attept to scam user here with his ponzi that has very expensive fees.

Don’t be surprised if another mewbie do this same patetrn of scam attempt in the future.

This pattern of fraud has been around for a long time and it seems that Op will always replace it with another newbie account and commit fraud with another pattern.
But what's worse when a Newbie enters the forums looking for gambling finds threads like this could fall into the Op's trap.

[Juse14]

For me personally, breaking away from gambling is rather difficult, moreover, I get pleasure from it by achieving several wins, coupled with online gambling notifications that always appear on my cellphone, making it increasingly difficult for me to stop playing gambling.

I think gambling addiction is not so bad if we can control the addiction. Because gambling can be bad and harm you when you can't control yourself, playing without thinking about strategy and playing without controlling your finances will only lead you to misery.

If all addictions depend on the ability to control them, then they should not be called bad addictions at all. Gambling is not a bad addiction for many people who are addicted to gambling and have the ability to control it. There are many people who become addicted to gambling and harm many socially and he becomes addicted to gambling in such a way that it becomes one of the causes of turmoil in his family. In this case, it becomes very difficult to control the gambler and bring him out of gambling addiction. However, gambling cannot be a bad profession if it does not have bad social effects.

It is undeniable that it is very difficult to persuade someone who is heavily addicted to gambling so that they can get out of that zone. And we can only invite and cannot force someone to leave the zone because that is their right. But it needs to be underlined, indeed gambling is their right, want it from morning to morning again and spending millions playing gambling is their right. But behind it all, don't just fulfill your rights but forget your obligations. For example; your obligation as the head of the family to guide and support. Because it's true as you said @LDL that gambling cannot be made into a profession.

[Unbunplease]

It is undeniable that it is very difficult to persuade someone who is heavily addicted to gambling so that they can get out of that zone. And we can only invite and cannot force someone to leave the zone because that is their right. But it needs to be underlined, indeed gambling is their right, want it from morning to morning again and spending millions playing gambling is their right. But behind it all, don't just fulfill your rights but forget your obligations. For example; your obligation as the head of the family to guide and support. Because it's true as you said @LDL that gambling cannot be made into a profession.

Gambling addiction is a very complex problem. Cost control is mandatory, but the desire to win back and the certainty that a little more and you will hit the jackpot, very much interfere with the mind. Therefore, there should be an automatic control of costs, as well as a ban on taking credits. A player in the excitement completely forgets about all his responsibilities

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It is undeniable that it is very difficult to persuade someone who is heavily addicted to gambling so that they can get out of that zone. And we can only invite and cannot force someone to leave the zone because that is their right. But it needs to be underlined, indeed gambling is their right, want it from morning to morning again and spending millions playing gambling is their right. But behind it all, don't just fulfill your rights but forget your obligations. For example; your obligation as the head of the family to guide and support. Because it's true as you said @LDL that gambling cannot be made into a profession.

Gambling addiction is a very complex problem. Cost control is mandatory, but the desire to win back and the certainty that a little more and you will hit the jackpot, very much interfere with the mind. Therefore, there should be an automatic control of costs, as well as a ban on taking credits. A player in the excitement completely forgets about all his responsibilities

Simple but effective truth, I have mentioned on one of my comments in another thread this minds trick, which is, your mind telling you to keep playing, that you are close to winning the jackpot, at the end of the day, it's all a minds trick.

This is something that affect both old and new players, I my self till today still experience such, it take good self discipline to not always end up with an empty bankroll anytime such thoughts start playing in our heads while gambling.

But anyways, those who understand that gambling is all about just having fun, that the ability to make some money in the process is just an added bonus which not everyone will partake of, such persons will always have peace of mind all through their gambling journey, even if they had to empty their bankroll many times.

[Mr.suevie]

It is undeniable that it is very difficult to persuade someone who is heavily addicted to gambling so that they can get out of that zone. And we can only invite and cannot force someone to leave the zone because that is their right. But it needs to be underlined, indeed gambling is their right, want it from morning to morning again and spending millions playing gambling is their right. But behind it all, don't just fulfill your rights but forget your obligations. For example; your obligation as the head of the family to guide and support. Because it's true as you said @LDL that gambling cannot be made into a profession.

Gambling addiction is a very complex problem. Cost control is mandatory, but the desire to win back and the certainty that a little more and you will hit the jackpot, very much interfere with the mind. Therefore, there should be an automatic control of costs, as well as a ban on taking credits. A player in the excitement completely forgets about all his responsibilities

The anxiousness and anxiety the gambler feel is what make he or she forget him or herself when gambling, many actions while gambling can make a gambler addicted to this act and this particular one that involved the gambler chasing the loses he has enquired is the top of it because this act drives so much adrenaline that makes the gambler really lost in his educated.

[AmoreJaz]

For me personally, breaking away from gambling is rather difficult, moreover, I get pleasure from it by achieving several wins, coupled with online gambling notifications that always appear on my cellphone, making it increasingly difficult for me to stop playing gambling.

I think gambling addiction is not so bad if we can control the addiction. Because gambling can be bad and harm you when you can't control yourself, playing without thinking about strategy and playing without controlling your finances will only lead you to misery.

If all addictions depend on the ability to control them, then they should not be called bad addictions at all. Gambling is not a bad addiction for many people who are addicted to gambling and have the ability to control it. There are many people who become addicted to gambling and harm many socially and he becomes addicted to gambling in such a way that it becomes one of the causes of turmoil in his family. In this case, it becomes very difficult to control the gambler and bring him out of gambling addiction. However, gambling cannot be a bad profession if it does not have bad social effects.

It is undeniable that it is very difficult to persuade someone who is heavily addicted to gambling so that they can get out of that zone. And we can only invite and cannot force someone to leave the zone because that is their right. But it needs to be underlined, indeed gambling is their right, want it from morning to morning again and spending millions playing gambling is their right. But behind it all, don't just fulfill your rights but forget your obligations. For example; your obligation as the head of the family to guide and support. Because it's true as you said @LDL that gambling cannot be made into a profession.

the decision to stop is entirely dependent to the person himself. he can read all the suggestions, pieces of advise and many other articles saying how to stop addiction, but if he won't start thinking about it, it won't happen. he also need to be sincere on his change of lifestyle. because if his reasoning is weak, he can easily go back to where he was. a determined mind can break his old habits. but the continuity will always depend on him, how sincere he is to change his lifestyle.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Obviously it's not easy, don't know why this question even exists?

If it was easy then people would just stop as soon as they seen the situation is getting out of hand. I think if you are too deep in it you can only get out with help and intervention of others. People lose control and don't wake up, not even when it's too late. They dig a deeper and deeper hole and often enough lose everything.

That's why I think it's very good that several countries officially forbid promoting gambling, it's a step in the right direction.

Gambling addiction is one of the biggest addictions in our society these days, it destroys families and everything it touches.
Some years ago this wasn't even a thing but with the internet making gambling too easy and accessible to everybody it's hard to stop the spreading of this virus.  

[knowngunman]

Can you attach any articles I can read about addiction consisting of many stages? Because AFAIK, problem gambling has its own phases, not stages. Here are the phases:

- Winning phase
- Losing phase
- Desperation phase
- Hopeless phase

Source: https://psychcentral.com/addictions/four-phases-and-steps-of-gambling-addiction#phases-of-gambling-addiction

Even in simple terms, stage and phase is synonymous and can be intermingling use in place of one another. There's another stage missing in your list which is recovery stage. It's the stage where the victim fight to regain his sense and seize to be addictive through various means. You can read more about it here.

So, whatever the gambling problem is, no matter how deeply a gambler loses and becomes a problem gambler who is addicted, the solution is still same, there's no difference.

And, no the solution is not the same because you can't expect someone who's newly to gambling to struggle hard to quit like one who has grown deep in it for long.

[Fatunad]

Obviously it's not easy, don't know why this question even exists?

If it was easy then people would just stop as soon as they seen the situation is getting out of hand. I think if you are too deep in it you can only get out with help and intervention of others. People lose control and don't wake up, not even when it's too late. They dig a deeper and deeper hole and often enough lose everything.

That's why I think it's very good that several countries officially forbid promoting gambling, it's a step in the right direction.

Gambling addiction is one of the biggest addictions in our society these days, it destroys families and everything it touches.
Some years ago this wasn't even a thing but with the internet making gambling too easy and accessible to everybody it's hard to stop the spreading of this virus.  

Yes, its never been easy and this is the main reason on why gambling industry is so that profitable business on which it is really that increasing day by day or year by year when it comes to revenue which it does really shows that there are lots of people who do really engage into this activity on which most of them would really be going after on making money and doesnt really that mind off about the risks behind it.
Its never been that easy on the time that you would be finding yourself get hooked on addiction.It might really be that simple to make or say about advises but its not actually that so simple because if it does then
gambling psychiatrist or those professionals doesnt really exist on the first place or even with those gambling warnings and precautions if people are really that good when it comes into their
self control and discipline towards gambling activity.

[khaled0111]

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I think you didn't understand what he said. He isn't talking about the phases you mentioned and how to become an addidct. He is rather taking about levels of addiction. In other words, the gravity of seriousness of he case. Some people are more addict than others and the more serious the case is, the harder it will be to recover from it.
Anyway, imo, the first step in recovery is to admit being an addict. Most addicts deny it and refuse to accept the truth that everyone else sees.

[mak013]

I think that it depends on the gambler/gamer/etc. Someone can stop himself, someone else will gamble until he lose all his money. This situation is the same(in my opinion) for most part of the hobbies - in some moment it becomes too expensive and it doesn`t matter what resource do you spend - money, time or something else.
The problem with gambling that it is the main thing we see.

You need to have a strong mindset to leave it because it's like all other addiction where you are tempted to bet upon games even if costs you anything so to be normal again you need to be strong and especially if you have some moral support of you family members it can be easy.It depends on the surrounding environment also like gamblers will have during that time that can help them a lot.

I don`t think that i have strong mindset but i have no problems with gambling or some other hobbies But it is possible that it is only my opinion. We see lots of people with different problems and often they created these problems themselves. And you`re right that lots of depends on environment - parents, friends, family - they can help to avoid lots of problems.

[blockman]

Dude, being an advocate of people who wants to quit gambling is a good one. But you don't force people in quitting just because you hate it and you're not for it. Any person can stop at their own will but if they don't want to, you don't have a say in whatever decision a gambler makes.
Join you or not, at some point in individual gamblers' lives, a time will come when we'll all realize what we like to do and what we are up to. You may not like gambling and that's why make your own ways of avoiding it and if you're trying to attract people follow what you did, that's in you. There's no need to push everyone to dislike it just because you hate and despise gambling. If it didn't do good to you then just really avoid it for a lifetime.

[Gozie51]

Anyway, imo, the first step in recovery is to admit being an addict. Most addicts deny it and refuse to accept the truth that everyone else sees.

Self deniel is the worst addiction that someone can get into. If you refuse to accept you are addicted and keep pretending that your are okay then no one will come to your help because you are just as fine as them. The first way to getting help is to give an open hand to people that you need help. A drunk doesn't like to be called as that and just like gambling addict. Men like their ego to be fanned and protected, so before you know they are on the help stage you just know they are totally out of control of themselves.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Anyway, imo, the first step in recovery is to admit being an addict. Most addicts deny it and refuse to accept the truth that everyone else sees.

Self deniel is the worst addiction that someone can get into. If you refuse to accept you are addicted and keep pretending that your are okay then no one will come to your help because you are just as fine as them. The first way to getting help is to give an open hand to people that you need help. A drunk doesn't like to be called as that and just like gambling addict. Men like their ego to be fanned and protected, so before you know they are on the help stage you just know they are totally out of control of themselves.

I very much concur with your thought here, an addict's first step to becoming free is to first accept that he or she is addicted and assert that he or she needs help, it's just the same as someone who is sick, you first accept that you are sick and need medication, that gives you the drive to visit a hospital or a pharmacy near you(depending on how serious or mild the sickness is) for proper check and medication..

And talking about ego, it is commonly said in African proverb that a stubborn fly follows a corpse to the grave, one who is addicted and knows it, and also knows it has passed a level where he can help himself, and knows he needs professional help, but because of ego, refuse to take that step to seeking help, such person so responsible for what ever befalls him at the end of the day..