Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk.

[Yamifoud]

It was easy to say if we are not in that situation and that is what OP is trying to say.
Well, that is obviously wrong because if that is right, no people got into addiction. Unfortunately, it really exists and that is the reality when it comes to gambling - many people lose control of themselves and got fall into addiction.  And you are right, many families got broken due to such issues and sometimes committed crimes. But still, we can stop gambling if we really wanted and committed to doing it, yet it will take time to heal and to finally forget gambling.

[masulum]

The guy wasn't able to control his urge to gamble and the family let him go abroad to work so that he earns money and use it all in gambling, that's a great solution indeed. They shouldn't have let him go until he was completely okay and has left gambling, he would obviously not be able to get rid of it when he is away from the family, living alone with no one around to even care about what he does and what he doesn't, he would definitely gamble in such a situation.

Supporting someone when they are in trouble is a good thing, but then leaving them hanging if they can't grasp the changes isn't really an ideal thing to do, the support should be continued and the person should be kept around to see if there are any changes found or not.

I don't know if it was the right decision or the wrong decision. Considering he is probably 10+ years younger than me, his mother have told about him, he is in heavy addiction. May be you are right he can uses his own money to gamble, but we know, sometimes a week's salary ends in 1 hour of gambling if we can't control ourselves and when we are in a losing phase while gambling. What will he do when he has no money and wants to continue gambling? One question that is always worried by his parents and fear if his son commits a crime abroad. if it happens, no one can help him anymore.

[Fredomago]

It was easy to say if we are not in that situation and that is what OP is trying to say.
Well, that is obviously wrong because if that is right, no people got into addiction. Unfortunately, it really exists and that is the reality when it comes to gambling - many people lose control of themselves and got fall into addiction.  And you are right, many families got broken due to such issues and sometimes committed crimes. But still, we can stop gambling if we really wanted and committed to doing it, yet it will take time to heal and to finally forget gambling.

And that time is what you need to re-assess and help yourself to fix the addiction, it's on your self-will to stop and avoid playing back, I agree with your statement about it's easy to say if you are not in that particular situation and it can be apply to many things in life, you can easily provide your opinions and your ways to avoid or to stop things out, but when you caught in that same situation, the decision making and the resolution that you'll going to take might be different from how you provide your advice.

Easy maybe for those who are doing it just pure for fun and killing some time, but difficult/tough for those who already engage and believing that they can change a lifestyle if luck will back them up and win decently.

[Docnaster]

It was easy to say if we are not in that situation and that is what OP is trying to say.
Well, that is obviously wrong because if that is right, no people got into addiction. Unfortunately, it really exists and that is the reality when it comes to gambling - many people lose control of themselves and got fall into addiction.  And you are right, many families got broken due to such issues and sometimes committed crimes. But still, we can stop gambling if we really wanted and committed to doing it, yet it will take time to heal and to finally forget gambling.

I have seen so many topics about gambling addiction, but I think it is time to ask;
1. Who are the victims of gambling addiction?
2. What was ther experience?
3. How were they able to escape addiction?
Or are there not victims of gambling addiction? I have never seen anyone confess or advice based on experience.

[Crypto Library]

If you decide to quit gamble or take gamble as entertainment only, welcome to join me.

I don't think that you have to quit gambling if you can take is as the entertainment purpose only. Because if you can do it I  think I think you aren't the addicted person.
I think most of the case those person are get into the addiction trap who take the gambing and their income source and also the Greed of them was one cause. I think that to eliminate gambling addiction, these two things must be removed from the mind first. In my case, I don't need to quit gambling because I am not a person addicted to gambling. And even if you don't see it in a bad way, if you use it as a means of entertainment, I think all the problems will be solved.

[serjent05]

If you decide to quit gamble or take gamble as entertainment only, welcome to join me.

I don't think that you have to quit gambling if you can take is as the entertainment purpose only. Because if you can do it I  think I think you aren't the addicted person.

Viewing gambling as form of entertainment does not remove the possibility of being addicted to it.  If a person have poor control over himself during his gambling session then it is best for him to stop since the possibility of being addicted to gambling is somehow high in that situation.  But, if he is able to control and moderate himself then I believe there is no problem if he continue to gamble in his entire life.

I think most of the case those person are get into the addiction trap who take the gambing and their income source and also the Greed of them was one cause. I think that to eliminate gambling addiction, these two things must be removed from the mind first. In my case, I don't need to quit gambling because I am not a person addicted to gambling. And even if you don't see it in a bad way, if you use it as a means of entertainment, I think all the problems will be solved.

I think otherwise, I believe the thinking that gambling is a possible source of income will trap them to engage in gambling constantly but as long as they have control they will never be addicted to gambling. 

[Bushdark]

It was easy to say if we are not in that situation and that is what OP is trying to say.
Well, that is obviously wrong because if that is right, no people got into addiction. Unfortunately, it really exists and that is the reality when it comes to gambling - many people lose control of themselves and got fall into addiction.  And you are right, many families got broken due to such issues and sometimes committed crimes. But still, we can stop gambling if we really wanted and committed to doing it, yet it will take time to heal and to finally forget gambling.

There is nothing easy in Earthz even to make money is never easy. Gambling is what people do to make extra income for themselves and when we become addicted to it, it becomes very difficult for us to leave gambling since it gives us money especially for those that have earned thousands of dollars from it. Gambling addiction is something that is very hard for us to leave and it will take the effort of the gambler and the person that is trying to help. Those who are quitting gambling might be those that are really tired frim gambling especially when they are not making profits from it.

[blockman]

Unfortunately, it really exists and that is the reality when it comes to gambling - many people lose control of themselves and got fall into addiction. 

There's the psychological effect of gambling and that makes us think that we're still in control but in reality, we've already lost our control. Thus, gamblers that are aware they're still in control, it's just a matter of few bets then they'll be tilted and going to have the mistake in their lives just like the others that are thinking of the same thing.

And you are right, many families got broken due to such issues and sometimes committed crimes. But still, we can stop gambling if we really wanted and committed to doing it, yet it will take time to heal and to finally forget gambling.

In my country, gambling is almost everywhere. I've got friends and families that have broken relationships because of their uncontrollable gambling addiction. They sell almost every stuff that they've got even if that's the only thing they own like their few appliances. They will only stop if they've been shouted that they're unlucky and they need to take a rest and nothing is left anymore.

[QueenVera]

Boys. It is time to quit gamble. I created a topic about taking gambling as a major income or not and fought a lot of kind people who held an opposite point. I own them a truly apology. I am sorry. No matter who you are, gambling is only for fun. Never take it as income at anytime. If you are still gambling, you should quit now. If you cannot quit by yourself, there are so many channels to help you. Even you can talk to me. I will do my best to help you.

I hate gamble!

The fact that you hate gambling or have decided to quit, with some good reasons best known to you doesn't mean that you should discourage others about it or try using your experience to talk to them out of it, note that everyone won't make same mistakes like you do, and your focus should be on addicted gamblers and not all gamblers entirely because there are some people who apply risk management in gambling though it's not possible that you'll never experience loss in it but they make little losses and earn more, and I put it to you that you're wrong in saying people don't succeed in gambling cause there are also  punters who have become rich presently all thanks to gambling, what works for others might not work for you and if gambling doesn't work for you then you move on, and if for any reason you want to educate people with your experience I expect you to teach them the risk management in gambling like you've indirectly done, such as;
Gambling as a major source of income is wrong, seeing gamble as a form of entertainment, those are the kind of things you i expected of you to explain to gamblers about not discouraging them entirely about it thereby making people who gamble look silly, gambling is not bad but rather addictive gambling is, let's be guided please.

[Weawant]

Easy maybe for those who are doing it just pure for fun and killing some time, but difficult/tough for those who already engage and believing that they can change a lifestyle if luck will back them up and win decently.

For those doing it for fun or entertainment they mightn't find it easy to quit as well because when they get addicted they will have similar behavior like those playing for money. They won't want to quit even when they're not making profits. Addiction is very hard behavior to quit.

The only time a gambler can quit gambling is when he isn't addicted, it doesn't matter if he's playing for the money or for entertainment, provided he isn't addicted, he can stop gambling at anytime. There are some things anybody wanting to quit gambling needs to know.

Since gambling was taking up most of their time, they need a new activity that'll replace gambling. If they find that hobby or activity, then they won't have free time to reconsider going back to gambling. The activity has to be as productive and demanding as gambling was.

[Gozie51]

And talking about ego, it is commonly said in African proverb that a stubborn fly follows a corpse to the grave, one who is addicted and knows it, and also knows it has passed a level where he can help himself, and knows he needs professional help, but because of ego, refuse to take that step to seeking help, such person so responsible for what ever befalls him at the end of the day..

There are some acts that are done by impulse and not because the person now understand what they are doing. A gambler may not even know he needs help when he becomes an addict to it, it comes to him as what he must do and so at such a stage, it is the neighbors, family etc that can identify the act and forcefully get help for him either by encouraging him or making it for him to gamble like taking the phone away, refusing to provide internet network if he can't subscribe data for himself. The external difficulties are what will discourage him but for him to complain, that may not happen.

[summonerrk]

And talking about ego, it is commonly said in African proverb that a stubborn fly follows a corpse to the grave, one who is addicted and knows it, and also knows it has passed a level where he can help himself, and knows he needs professional help, but because of ego, refuse to take that step to seeking help, such person so responsible for what ever befalls him at the end of the day..

There are some acts that are done by impulse and not because the person now understand what they are doing. A gambler may not even know he needs help when he becomes an addict to it, it comes to him as what he must do and so at such a stage, it is the neighbors, family etc that can identify the act and forcefully get help for him either by encouraging him or making it for him to gamble like taking the phone away, refusing to provide internet network if he can't subscribe data for himself. The external difficulties are what will discourage him but for him to complain, that may not happen.

Unfortunately, addiction is difficult to diagnose by yourself, but it's easy from the aside (friends). But there is one sure way - you need to do something else. Just as exciting and interesting. And see how much it will pull to play. Unfortunately, gambling is very accessible now because of the phones, one has only to make a couple of clicks and now the bet is made, and the excitement is back again.
Now that I've watched a lot of videos with gambling addicts (I advise everyone to watch such videos periodically), I understand how scary and hard it is. And it's almost impossible to get out of this alone.
It is good that we have such a conscious and responsible society at the forum, which will always help with advice.

[Fredomago]

Easy maybe for those who are doing it just pure for fun and killing some time, but difficult/tough for those who already engage and believing that they can change a lifestyle if luck will back them up and win decently.

For those doing it for fun or entertainment they mightn't find it easy to quit as well because when they get addicted they will have similar behavior like those playing for money. They won't want to quit even when they're not making profits. Addiction is very hard behavior to quit.

The only time a gambler can quit gambling is when he isn't addicted, it doesn't matter if he's playing for the money or for entertainment, provided he isn't addicted, he can stop gambling at anytime. There are some things anybody wanting to quit gambling needs to know.

Since gambling was taking up most of their time, they need a new activity that'll replace gambling. If they find that hobby or activity, then they won't have free time to reconsider going back to gambling. The activity has to be as productive and demanding as gambling was.

You have a good point as if it's already turn into addiction so it's no longer just for fun or entertainment but most with a desire to continue playing and control is no longer from that person itself, and it's very possible as you said, when you already engage and you are unable to control yourself then it will be too difficult to quit.

Though more on a case to case, as there are gamblers who only play occasionally and doing it completely for fun and entertainment, people who have lots of things to do in life and not going to engage too much time in gambling.

[lionheart78]

The guy wasn't able to control his urge to gamble and the family let him go abroad to work so that he earns money and use it all in gambling, that's a great solution indeed. They shouldn't have let him go until he was completely okay and has left gambling, he would obviously not be able to get rid of it when he is away from the family, living alone with no one around to even care about what he does and what he doesn't, he would definitely gamble in such a situation.

This is one of the worst scenarios possible, letting someone to go abroad alone to earn money while still addicted to gambling.  The family should have made sure that the person is cured of his addiction than thinking of the money to earn.  If I were the parent of that person, I would stop him from going abroad and make sure that he is treated of his addiction than think of the possible money that guy can earn since it will be for nothing as a gambling addict, we all know that the person will only spend them to gamble.  Worst he might not do well on his work and get fired due tothe effect of too much gambling that the person is not performing well on his work.

Supporting someone when they are in trouble is a good thing, but then leaving them hanging if they can't grasp the changes isn't really an ideal thing to do, the support should be continued and the person should be kept around to see if there are any changes found or not.

I highly agree, especially when it involves addiction, the support should be more than 100% and the relative must make sure that the person is cured before letting him alone.

[Rabata]

Easy maybe for those who are doing it just pure for fun and killing some time, but difficult/tough for those who already engage and believing that they can change a lifestyle if luck will back them up and win decently.

For those doing it for fun or entertainment they mightn't find it easy to quit as well because when they get addicted they will have similar behavior like those playing for money. They won't want to quit even when they're not making profits. Addiction is very hard behavior to quit.

The only time a gambler can quit gambling is when he isn't addicted, it doesn't matter if he's playing for the money or for entertainment, provided he isn't addicted, he can stop gambling at anytime. There are some things anybody wanting to quit gambling needs to know.

Whether it is for fun or to make money, someone who gambles regularly has the potential to become addicted. But those who think of gambling as fun have little interest in money or no adverse reaction to losing money. I agree with you that if someone is addicted to gambling at any stage then it is not easy to give up gambling. A gambler is not an addicted gambler if he gambles and is able to take a break from gambling at any time. I also think it is a very effective method to pick out an addicted gambler.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The main problem with live betting is that if you place a bet before an event starts you cannot adjust your bet to the changing odds. This is a major problem because sports betting odds often change with the state of a match. If emotions get out of hand and place a bet a few days before the game, you risk your bet because there could be a change in the team or an injury could have a negative effect on the team you have chosen as your favorite team.

This is not what live bets are. Live bets are in-play matches. They are matches that have already started but punters can still continue to bet and the odds will be changing as the match starts. What you are talking about are matches that have not yet started.

You are not wrong though because it is good to check all the players before you place bet on a team, you have to make sure that all the players that you want to be there are there and playing. I can not forget a match I took in the past which was Juventus versus Parma when Juventus was very good and winning Seria A. Three of Juventus players did not play because the manager rested them for Champions League that was coming and they lost the match, yet the margin Juventus had, compared to the second position was still far.

Well, this thing about live games and live betting is something I haven't done because I don't like things to change from one moment to the next, that's why when I make sports bets it's before the game starts, because that's how I did it and that's it, if I lose then I lose, but if I make a good bet and then I change it and win I put that at the beginning, because the bitter taste of that defeat is like greater, that's why I don't make bets on the course. of a sport

There are people who like to change their bets while the game is running, they will do well, I couldn't, and I really don't have the experience of doing it. I would like to make this type of bet just to try it out because I can't deny that it catches my eye and I don't know if I would feel comfortable doing it, but at some point I will.

Everything when it comes to betting, our brain plays a very important role sending signals that you can win and that everything is possible, obviously when the pooprtundiades of betting in the live and direct game are made or given, I feel that it is distorted a bit. It's not my decision because I tell myself, I have the opportunity to change this, because if I don't change it I lose, but at the same time another part tells me not to change it and to trust my judgment, this also depends on the preference that the person has for bet.

[QueenVera]

Unfortunately, addiction is difficult to diagnose by yourself, but it's easy from the aside (friends). But there is one sure way - you need to do something else. Just as exciting and interesting. And see how much it will pull to play. Unfortunately, gambling is very accessible now because of the phones, one has only to make a couple of clicks and now the bet is made, and the excitement is back again.
Now that I've watched a lot of videos with gambling addicts (I advise everyone to watch such videos periodically), I understand how scary and hard it is. And it's almost impossible to get out of this alone.
It is good that we have such a conscious and responsible society at the forum, which will always help with advice.

 Yes you're right and also most people who where able to discover their addiction for gambling, find it difficult to quit, due to several factors and like you said the internet and technology also have made it very easy for people to get addicted to gambling because there where times when distance, weather, and other factors do hinder people from going to the casino daily, but currently  gamblers doesn't need to worry about going to the casino because they could do it from the comfort of their homes all they just need is a good device and an internet connection which is becoming very easy to access even in the rural areas.
 It's very important to try as much as possible to resist the addiction of gambling because apart from losing money it has other negative and harmful effect like depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, mental disorder due to much thinking therefore if you have a friend or relative that you notice is finding it difficult for a day to pass by without staking a bet it is your responsibility to put them in order and advise them of the consequences of addictive gambling because once they become additicted most times it seems difficult to quit.

[Blitzboy]

The main problem with live betting is that if you place a bet before an event starts you cannot adjust your bet to the changing odds. This is a major problem because sports betting odds often change with the state of a match. If emotions get out of hand and place a bet a few days before the game, you risk your bet because there could be a change in the team or an injury could have a negative effect on the team you have chosen as your favorite team.

This is not what live bets are. Live bets are in-play matches. They are matches that have already started but punters can still continue to bet and the odds will be changing as the match starts. What you are talking about are matches that have not yet started.

You are not wrong though because it is good to check all the players before you place bet on a team, you have to make sure that all the players that you want to be there are there and playing. I can not forget a match I took in the past which was Juventus versus Parma when Juventus was very good and winning Seria A. Three of Juventus players did not play because the manager rested them for Champions League that was coming and they lost the match, yet the margin Juventus had, compared to the second position was still far.

Well, this thing about live games and live betting is something I haven't done because I don't like things to change from one moment to the next, that's why when I make sports bets it's before the game starts, because that's how I did it and that's it, if I lose then I lose, but if I make a good bet and then I change it and win I put that at the beginning, because the bitter taste of that defeat is like greater, that's why I don't make bets on the course. of a sport

There are people who like to change their bets while the game is running, they will do well, I couldn't, and I really don't have the experience of doing it. I would like to make this type of bet just to try it out because I can't deny that it catches my eye and I don't know if I would feel comfortable doing it, but at some point I will.

Everything when it comes to betting, our brain plays a very important role sending signals that you can win and that everything is possible, obviously when the pooprtundiades of betting in the live and direct game are made or given, I feel that it is distorted a bit. It's not my decision because I tell myself, I have the opportunity to change this, because if I don't change it I lose, but at the same time another part tells me not to change it and to trust my judgment, this also depends on the preference that the person has for bet.

Live betting isnt for everyone. Pre-match bets are fascinating since you're betting on your pre-game analysis. That method is lovely. Be patient and trust your gut. Live betting games offer a different thrill, so dont envy them. Betting is personal, like choosing an ice cream flavor. Some folks require the constant energy of live games. Like you, others like the thrill of seeing their first guess come true. Both have pros and cons. You're brave to attempt new things. Remember that dipping your toes into live betting doesn't equal diving in. Keep calm, be honest to yourself, and remember that this is your game.

[wiss19]

Well, this thing about live games and live betting is something I haven't done because I don't like things to change from one moment to the next, that's why when I make sports bets it's before the game starts, because that's how I did it and that's it, if I lose then I lose, but if I make a good bet and then I change it and win I put that at the beginning, because the bitter taste of that defeat is like greater, that's why I don't make bets on the course. of a sport

There are people who like to change their bets while the game is running, they will do well, I couldn't, and I really don't have the experience of doing it. I would like to make this type of bet just to try it out because I can't deny that it catches my eye and I don't know if I would feel comfortable doing it, but at some point I will.

Everything when it comes to betting, our brain plays a very important role sending signals that you can win and that everything is possible, obviously when the pooprtundiades of betting in the live and direct game are made or given, I feel that it is distorted a bit. It's not my decision because I tell myself, I have the opportunity to change this, because if I don't change it I lose, but at the same time another part tells me not to change it and to trust my judgment, this also depends on the preference that the person has for bet.

We are getting a bit off the topic here but for the sake of the discussion you are doing, I'll say that you need a lot of luck to be able to make it through when you make live bets on a usual basis, those who do that understand the games and the teams pretty well, and even after that, they might have to face a lot of losses because even the strongest team can sometimes lose against a side that is the least favorite in a tournament or whatever is going on.

It also makes the odds lower when you bet when a match has already started, let's say you could get 2.1x if you had bet on a team before the match started but you will get 1.7x as soon as the match starts and it keeps decreasing as the match continues until betting is closed for everyone.

[piebeyb]

Supporting someone when they are in trouble is a good thing, but then leaving them hanging if they can't grasp the changes isn't really an ideal thing to do, the support should be continued and the person should be kept around to see if there are any changes found or not.

I highly agree, especially when it involves addiction, the support should be more than 100% and the relative must make sure that the person is cured before letting him alone.

Usually an addict when he has a friend or family sometimes still tries to borrow money because if he still wants to gamble and become an addict, but if he feels depressed enough to lose his family and all his assets he will usually recover on his own or choose to end his life. Most people who have a lot of debt because of gambling need friends for fear of committing suicide.

But if it's just an ordinary addict who doesn't need to accompany him, he will try to borrow money from us for any reason as a friend and that will make us feel sorry for him and help him again to gamble without us knowing it, after all gambling addiction is not like drug addiction where he will stop himself if you have lost everything unless you have a lot of debt because of gambling. any support does not necessarily cure his gambling addiction.