Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk.

[abel1337]

In most cases, if someone notices that a person is starting to sink into addiction and tries to help him, this will have little chance of success. Because you won't be able to be with this person 24/7, and in any case, he will find an opportunity to run away or hide it from you.

Unfortunately, usually a game addict will only ask for help at the very last moment, when he is at the bottom. But there are even difficult cases when, having lost everything, they don't admit it openly. This ends very sadly for them.

Even though the chance looks small, that person should still try it, especially if the gambling addict is his best friend. No one wants to see their best friend sink into gambling and become a heavy gambling addict and they will try to save him before something worse happens to his best friend.

And if he can't be with the gambling addict 24/7, he can ask people close to the gambling addict to keep an eye on him and let him know if anything happens. But indeed, the assistance can often be too late, especially if these people cannot be with them every day and every time.

Look mate, there is a saying in my place that 'he who is not ready to save himself, nobody can save that person, no matter how hard they try', being a friend to an addict gambler does not mean you should turn yourself to a babysitter, most especially in a case where the addict him or her self isn't even a baby.

Don't get me wrong though, its not a bad thing to try to help, after all the biblical law commands us to be our brother's keeper, but then, you can only help someone who is willing and in need of help, else your effort will just be  wasted one, and if not careful, you might even end up becoming an enemy to the said or supposed friend, this opinion of mine is based on personal experience though.

Well that's true. It's like forcing someone that isn't willing to change to a rehab center and doing the same thing after getting out of a rehab. It's just wasting resources, money and effort on someone that no plan in doing the right thing for himself. It's hard to help gambling addicts if they aren't willing to help themselves knowing how easy it is for them to access casino nowadays. A gambling addict that has a resolve to change even without any help is much better than a person who has all the help but isn't willing to change at all.

[mak013]

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When talking about more opportunities to make money, I would say that it is better to choose trading or investing than gambling, but here it is not a matter of how much profit we can get, but the pleasure and satisfaction that we get when gambling so that addiction is more difficult to stop when a gambler can enjoy these two things.
Gambling has the risks of trading and investing also has risks, but on the other hand, gambling provides its own pleasure and satisfaction that we cannot possibly get from trading or investing, so there are no words to waste money as long as we have what we have.
And from this pleasure and satisfaction, it can be very difficult for someone to stop gambling.

In both ways you get positive emotions when win(get profit) and negative when lose(money). In both situations we risk money and play the game. I think that difference between gambling and trading is in the difficulty. When we read the rules for some casino game - it is easy to understand. When you begin trading and try to understand when buy and when sell - it is really difficult to understand fast.

It all depends on the basis and experience of each person, whether they are more knowledgeable in trading or gambling.
Both are equally at risk but in trading the risk can be more limited because we can see price statistics when to sell and when to buy and the losses are not in total, in contrast to gambling where we risk a certain amount of money on luck to win whereas when we lose all the money we have at stake will be lost.
I am someone who loves to trade crypto and also likes to gamble for fun so have a decent understanding of both.

Of course it is so. But if we talking about some common experience - trading needs more special knowledge. You have to know a lot for trading but in gambling you can start fast for casino games the rules are really simple.
And i can`t say that in trading your risks are lower than in gambling. Using money management you can control you budget. I try to lose small sums both but i can`t say that trading has less risks than gambling.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

To quit gambling is not easy when you have played gambling and lose or gain in gambling you may be likely to play gambling because you want to make it with gambling, so only the zeal alone will make you to think that gambling is make you to be rich and you will need to recover all the money you have spent in gambling, so I believe that gambling is something I know that you started it, it will be very difficult before you can quit from it, except you have transferred to the place you are to another place and the will be no access to Internet for some period of time and mainly a six months without Internet and constant observations

Even if someone is transferred to a place where they are restricted from using the internet, as soon as they return to their place, they will definitely start gambling again. In order for one to stop something that they are addicted to, they must first have the willingness to stop it; otherwise, it can't be stopped. Just like you said that it's difficult to stop gambling, yea, but that's mostly for those who are very compulsive gamblers, and it's very unethical for one to allow themselves to get so addicted to something that takes control over them instead of the opposite. I think that one of the first steps to stopping gambling is to have the willingness to stop it.

[klidex]

Well that's true. It's like forcing someone that isn't willing to change to a rehab center and doing the same thing after getting out of a rehab. It's just wasting resources, money and effort on someone that no plan in doing the right thing for himself. It's hard to help gambling addicts if they aren't willing to help themselves knowing how easy it is for them to access casino nowadays. A gambling addict that has a resolve to change even without any help is much better than a person who has all the help but isn't willing to change at all.

If it like that, the only way is when after a gambling addict or an ordinary gambler who has finished going through rehabilitation but still has thought of gambling, it better to exile or move to another city far from the gambling industry or in other ways such as giving a job or any activity that can divert his mind to get used to not thinking about gambling.
But even if the gambler has self-awareness to heal himself there should be someone who really cares about helping that person to stop gambling permanently.

[Docnaster]

Well that's true. It's like forcing someone that isn't willing to change to a rehab center and doing the same thing after getting out of a rehab. It's just wasting resources, money and effort on someone that no plan in doing the right thing for himself. It's hard to help gambling addicts if they aren't willing to help themselves knowing how easy it is for them to access casino nowadays. A gambling addict that has a resolve to change even without any help is much better than a person who has all the help but isn't willing to change at all.

If it like that, the only way is when after a gambling addict or an ordinary gambler who has finished going through rehabilitation but still has thought of gambling, it better to exile or move to another city far from the gambling industry or in other ways such as giving a job or any activity that can divert his mind to get used to not thinking about gambling.
But even if the gambler has self-awareness to heal himself there should be someone who really cares about helping that person to stop gambling permanently.

We must not wait until a gambling addict discovered that they are addicted and wants solution before we help them. Most of the addicts are not aware that they are addicted and if you wait until they realise that they are addicted it might never happen. So it is important that when you discover that someone has been addicted you find a way to talk to them. But if your efforts fail you can compel them to rehabilitation
When they live a new life in the rehab centre, they would then understand that the life they we are leaving before rehabilitation was a wasteful and addictive life.

[seleme]

Well that's true. It's like forcing someone that isn't willing to change to a rehab center and doing the same thing after getting out of a rehab. It's just wasting resources, money and effort on someone that no plan in doing the right thing for himself. It's hard to help gambling addicts if they aren't willing to help themselves knowing how easy it is for them to access casino nowadays. A gambling addict that has a resolve to change even without any help is much better than a person who has all the help but isn't willing to change at all.

If it like that, the only way is when after a gambling addict or an ordinary gambler who has finished going through rehabilitation but still has thought of gambling, it better to exile or move to another city far from the gambling industry or in other ways such as giving a job or any activity that can divert his mind to get used to not thinking about gambling.
But even if the gambler has self-awareness to heal himself there should be someone who really cares about helping that person to stop gambling permanently.

Exactly, changing your phone to an old phone without smart functions and moving to other locations may help to quit gambling. The best method is to look for professional help and get the right treatment during this process. Friends and close relatives will take care of the addicted gambler for a short time but professional help from a psychologist is the right choice from my point of view.

[Shamm]

Well that's true. It's like forcing someone that isn't willing to change to a rehab center and doing the same thing after getting out of a rehab. It's just wasting resources, money and effort on someone that no plan in doing the right thing for himself. It's hard to help gambling addicts if they aren't willing to help themselves knowing how easy it is for them to access casino nowadays. A gambling addict that has a resolve to change even without any help is much better than a person who has all the help but isn't willing to change at all.

If it like that, the only way is when after a gambling addict or an ordinary gambler who has finished going through rehabilitation but still has thought of gambling, it better to exile or move to another city far from the gambling industry or in other ways such as giving a job or any activity that can divert his mind to get used to not thinking about gambling.
But even if the gambler has self-awareness to heal himself there should be someone who really cares about helping that person to stop gambling permanently.

Exactly, changing your phone to an old phone without smart functions and moving to other locations may help to quit gambling. The best method is to look for professional help and get the right treatment during this process. Friends and close relatives will take care of the addicted gambler for a short time but professional help from a psychologist is the right choice from my point of view.

Another thing is when a gambler want to quit in gambling then he must be help himself and also what like you said above mate I think it will be advisable it because changing your phone from android to an old model is so helpful because of the reason you use your phone for call and text only and not for gamble.  Also it will help to a n addict that he will live in the province quit place he can do more activities such us hunting animals and fishing.

[Saint-loup]

Boys. It is time to quit gamble. I created a topic about taking gambling as a major income or not and fought a lot of kind people who held an opposite point. I own them a truly apology. I am sorry. No matter who you are, gambling is only for fun. Never take it as income at anytime. If you are still gambling, you should quit now. If you cannot quit by yourself, there are so many channels to help you. Even you can talk to me. I will do my best to help you.


Just some chemical reaction happened in my mind today, I get the point at that moment. Gambling for income is totally wrong and toxic for spirit and body. You will never be successful in that way. But I like gamble is still the fact and it will never change if doing nothing. So, why not open a stream and show it to all people who have interest on that. Let me prove how hard or easy to quit gamble. I will only gamble the affordable fund only. Maybe less. I am streaming 24/7. If some software problems disrupt, I will fix that except sleeping time.


Quit gambling now!


If you decide to quit gamble or take gamble as entertainment only, welcome to join me.


I hate gamble!


https://kick.com/fuckdice


Update 1
Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

According to Kick you haven't stream since 13 days now, does this mean you haven't gamble one single time during 2 weeks ? It would be a great achievement for someone being addicted like you to be honest. I am not a great user of Kick but I like watching several streamers on Twitch, so I was happy to be able to watch a Bitcointalk user streaming now. Unfortunately or gladly maybe, you seem to be able to resist to the gambling temptation.
Do you use some drugs for that purpose btw ? I hope you will share your tricks once you've succeeded.

[Slow death]

One of the things I have observed on this street of mine is that when people go to bars to play slots or other gambling they have there, they go in groups, I believe it is to chat while they play, and most of the time this movement always ends in fights and fights. they probably fight because when someone is losing a lot, the others are laughing at him, so the guy who is losing a lot gets irritated and ends up fighting with the others, so I keep asking myself the following: if every time they go in a group to play and they fight, then why doesn't each of them play alone?

I keep asking myself about this every day because every day they make noise with their fights, but every day even fighting and fighting between them, none of them will play alone, it makes me think that they all don't like solitude, so they need each other to keep each other company, and I particularly consider that they have already reached the level of being considered addicted people, ´because they are playing every day, they spend every day in the bar drinking and playing, even when there is a storm the guys are there in the bar making noise

[kingvirtus09]

One of the things I have observed on this street of mine is that when people go to bars to play slots or other gambling they have there, they go in groups, I believe it is to chat while they play, and most of the time this movement always ends in fights and fights. they probably fight because when someone is losing a lot, the others are laughing at him, so the guy who is losing a lot gets irritated and ends up fighting with the others, so I keep asking myself the following: if every time they go in a group to play and they fight, then why doesn't each of them play alone?

I keep asking myself about this every day because every day they make noise with their fights, but every day even fighting and fighting between them, none of them will play alone, it makes me think that they all don't like solitude, so they need each other to keep each other company, and I particularly consider that they have already reached the level of being considered addicted people, ´because they are playing every day, they spend every day in the bar drinking and playing, even when there is a storm the guys are there in the bar making noise

As the saying goes "2 is better than one". Maybe when they join the group it helps with their thoughts, maybe they get stronger because they know they are not alone, and maybe at this point they think that no one will be left behind and they will help each other- that's how it gets old in my understanding. or maybe he is complacent so he always joins such a group.
but like you said, if he doesn't want to get involved in the trouble, he can simply stay away or avoid it.

[SamReomo]

Never take it as income at anytime. If you are still gambling, you should quit now. If you cannot quit by yourself, there are so many channels to help you. Even you can talk to me. I will do my best to help you.
Quit gambling now!


If you decide to quit gamble or take gamble as entertainment only, welcome to join me.

I hate gamble!


https://kick.com/fuckdice

Weakling like you should stop gambling but for us who are responsible gambler and do not take it as a  source of income will go on, if gambling break your heart and your pocket then you have reasons to stop but don't hate gambling because for many people its a source of entertainment and job.
Just go on with your life and we will go on with our lives each one for himself when it comes to something that will make them happy.

I agree with you, for us gambling is a type of entertainment and we don't just gamble to get money from our gambling activities. If someone who is into gambling just for the sake of entertainment then that person never stops gambling because he/she isn't an addict but a lover of gambling. However, the ones who are into gambling only to earn money will often get addicted due to their own greed, and fortunately we are not among those people.

I must say that OP if you have given up on something that doesn't means that others would also follow your steps blindly. We all have our own reason and conditions to gamble and no one would give up on a thing they enjoy by just reading a user's thread. If you were able to give up on it then that's good for you, but I don't think that others are interested to give up on it because they enjoy it as a fun activity and they don't do it to earn money from it.

[Peanutswar]

To quit gambling is not easy when you have played gambling and lose or gain in gambling you may be likely to play gambling because you want to make it with gambling, so only the zeal alone will make you to think that gambling is make you to be rich and you will need to recover all the money you have spent in gambling, so I believe that gambling is something I know that you started it, it will be very difficult before you can quit from it, except you have transferred to the place you are to another place and the will be no access to Internet for some period of time and mainly a six months without Internet and constant observations

Even if someone is transferred to a place where they are restricted from using the internet, as soon as they return to their place, they will definitely start gambling again. In order for one to stop something that they are addicted to, they must first have the willingness to stop it; otherwise, it can't be stopped. Just like you said that it's difficult to stop gambling, yea, but that's mostly for those who are very compulsive gamblers, and it's very unethical for one to allow themselves to get so addicted to something that takes control over them instead of the opposite. I think that one of the first steps to stopping gambling is to have the willingness to stop it.

Even though there's no internet included there's gambling already those are the form of offline gambling like betting game casually with your friends or a particular place, they keep gambling in table top games, casual games like billiards or even fighting events there's always a betting the only need to do is to change the environment you are coming with those are the most influential to your part, this could serve as a treatment to your self to preventing playing gambling reason why control yourself too.

[ethereumhunter]

Look mate, there is a saying in my place that 'he who is not ready to save himself, nobody can save that person, no matter how hard they try', being a friend to an addict gambler does not mean you should turn yourself to a babysitter, most especially in a case where the addict him or her self isn't even a baby.

Don't get me wrong though, its not a bad thing to try to help, after all the biblical law commands us to be our brother's keeper, but then, you can only help someone who is willing and in need of help, else your effort will just be  wasted one, and if not careful, you might even end up becoming an enemy to the said or supposed friend, this opinion of mine is based on personal experience though.

I think what a gambling addict needs is genuine attention so that he knows that there are still people who try to be kind and care about him. Gradually, this will open his heart to accept the person, and with this gentle approach, the gambling addict can start to open up. After all, there's nothing wrong with trying to pay attention to a gambling addict, especially if we know them well and we think they really need our help.

[tusandii]

It all depends on the basis and experience of each person, whether they are more knowledgeable in trading or gambling.
Both are equally at risk but in trading the risk can be more limited because we can see price statistics when to sell and when to buy and the losses are not in total, in contrast to gambling where we risk a certain amount of money on luck to win whereas when we lose all the money we have at stake will be lost.
I am someone who loves to trade crypto and also likes to gamble for fun so have a decent understanding of both.

Of course it is so. But if we talking about some common experience - trading needs more special knowledge. You have to know a lot for trading but in gambling you can start fast for casino games the rules are really simple.
And i can`t say that in trading your risks are lower than in gambling. Using money management you can control you budget. I try to lose small sums both but i can`t say that trading has less risks than gambling.

Trading does require more general experience in analyzing and also determining the right position to buy or sell but experience from trading is very useful for everyday life too because we can be more focused, consistent and also patient.
Moreover, in trading there is no risk of addiction and it is different from gambling which has long-term effects of gambling addiction where addiction is very dangerous for anyone who experiences it.
If think that gambling is riskier in all forms of risk, but that is a choice, so no one can forbid it.

[Fredomago]

Look mate, there is a saying in my place that 'he who is not ready to save himself, nobody can save that person, no matter how hard they try', being a friend to an addict gambler does not mean you should turn yourself to a babysitter, most especially in a case where the addict him or her self isn't even a baby.

Don't get me wrong though, its not a bad thing to try to help, after all the biblical law commands us to be our brother's keeper, but then, you can only help someone who is willing and in need of help, else your effort will just be  wasted one, and if not careful, you might even end up becoming an enemy to the said or supposed friend, this opinion of mine is based on personal experience though.

I think what a gambling addict needs is genuine attention so that he knows that there are still people who try to be kind and care about him. Gradually, this will open his heart to accept the person, and with this gentle approach, the gambling addict can start to open up. After all, there's nothing wrong with trying to pay attention to a gambling addict, especially if we know them well and we think they really need our help.

We all have a different approach in terms of showing our care to a certain individual who already suffering from heavy gambling addiction, some can continue to still being patient while others are just voice it out and do nothing, I guess in terms of help if the person is really dear to us we needed to extend our understanding in hope that with such genuine efforts we will be able to let them realize that they needed to stop and quit with what they already addicted with.

Things that really needed to address in order to stop that problem which already exists inside their mindset, an unbalance way of
gambling always ending up with lots of consequences.

[piebeyb]

I think what a gambling addict needs is genuine attention so that he knows that there are still people who try to be kind and care about him. Gradually, this will open his heart to accept the person, and with this gentle approach, the gambling addict can start to open up. After all, there's nothing wrong with trying to pay attention to a gambling addict, especially if we know them well and we think they really need our help.

Maybe for my attention there is no problem, but for advice it is rather difficult to advise addicts because it is difficult to make addicts realize that what they are doing is wrong, usually addicts tend to ignore any advice from other people even though it is something good for them, I also have a friend addict and he managed to get out of his addiction because his family abandoned him and also lost all his money.

Usually addicts will realize when they lose everything, for those who have a strong mentality he will get up and get out by himself but if he doesn't have a strong mentality he will definitely end his life without thinking about his future, but as a friend I still pay attention to him so he doesn't do anything that harms himself.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Look mate, there is a saying in my place that 'he who is not ready to save himself, nobody can save that person, no matter how hard they try', being a friend to an addict gambler does not mean you should turn yourself to a babysitter, most especially in a case where the addict him or her self isn't even a baby.

Don't get me wrong though, its not a bad thing to try to help, after all the biblical law commands us to be our brother's keeper, but then, you can only help someone who is willing and in need of help, else your effort will just be  wasted one, and if not careful, you might even end up becoming an enemy to the said or supposed friend, this opinion of mine is based on personal experience though.

I think what a gambling addict needs is genuine attention so that he knows that there are still people who try to be kind and care about him. Gradually, this will open his heart to accept the person, and with this gentle approach, the gambling addict can start to open up. After all, there's nothing wrong with trying to pay attention to a gambling addict, especially if we know them well and we think they really need our help.

What you said is very correct bud, i totally get your point, But then, what i meant in my comment above is that, there are some people, regardless whether we know them or not, that have made up their minds, maybe not forever but for that moment, and nothing you do or say to them will make them budge, and if you with your really genuine intention to help try to push harder to make them realize you are only trying to help, they either pick up a fight with you, accusing you of trying to control them, or they start keeping distance from you..

What i am really saying is that, for your help to be really effective on a gambling addict, or some one with any kind of problem that they need help with, they(the person) have to first of all admit they have a problem and need help, this way, they can genuinely value your help, and you also will be very motivated to help.

Aside this, how do you convince a gambling addict that he needs help, when he or she does not even know, or ready to accept that he or she is addicted?

[blockman]

Usually addicts will realize when they lose everything

Not even when they lose everything but when they feel that they're not contented with a few bets and they want to come back anytime or stay for a longer time. Despite of having nothing anymore, they can't chill aside and they wish to gamble again even if they do understand that the situation isn't favoring them anymore.

for those who have a strong mentality he will get up and get out by himself but if he doesn't have a strong mentality he will definitely end his life without thinking about his future, but as a friend I still pay attention to him so he doesn't do anything that harms himself.

Sometimes when you're too confident, that's also dangerous. Many of those addicts have been comfortable and believed that they've got a strong mentality until they've been beaten themselves up.

[GxSTxV]

Calm down! If you are an alcoholic that doesn’t mean every alcohol drink factory should be closed because there people that drinks responsibly and enjoy it. The same thing goes for gambling if you are a heavy and addicted to it that doesn’t necessarily mean everyone should stop gambling and shut down casinos.
Personally I don’t even want to quit gambling as i find it only a way of having fun and spending good time. If you are addicted you need to get some help from advisors or a therapist to fully quit and not ask others to do because simply it’s not the way things work, if something is bad for you it’s not necessarily bad for everyone.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Even though there's no internet included there's gambling already those are the form of offline gambling like betting game casually with your friends or a particular place, they keep gambling in table top games, casual games like billiards or even fighting events there's always a betting the only need to do is to change the environment you are coming with those are the most influential to your part, this could serve as a treatment to your self to preventing playing gambling reason why control yourself too.

You are right, but in some cases, even if you change the person's environment to a different place, it will only take them a longer time to live there, and they will still make a few friends that can feed them the right information that will definitelyl lead them to Gambling. What I was suggesting is that if the person is being isolated for some period of time and being continually talked to by their loved ones, then they might have a change of mind.