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Author Topic: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk.  (Read 9701 times)
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August 16, 2023, 04:41:51 PM
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As for me it would be nice to make a pause in the game and spend some time for analyze - how much time you spend for gambling per week/month, how much money you lose, how many time you spend with your friends and family, etc.
After it the gambler can understand if the gambling a problem for him or not.

Don't you know that some compulsive gamblers lose some sense of reasoning and cannot even think the way you have described? All their concerns are just how to gamble, have fun, and earn money from it. My friend's girlfriend was telling me stuff about her dad some days ago; she said her dad is a Gambling addict and that she sent some money to him for him to buy her a plot of land, and the man assured her that he had already bought the plot of land. While he was lying, instead he used the money to gamble, and he lost the money. That was really a huge amount of money, but this man gambled it off. I was just surprised at how some dads have even lost their dignity and self-respect for their daughter to just waste some money that is not even their own.
I don`t see the problem if the gambler get profit from the gambling. Of course it depends on lots of moment like how much money he get, how much time he spend, etc. And in your example i think that this woman knows about her father`s problem but send him money anyway. It is only her mistake. And her father has more money for gambling and can continue waiting big win. He must lose the opportunity for gambling, only after it he can think about his deeds.

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August 16, 2023, 10:06:23 PM
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Boys. It is time to quit gamble. I created a topic about taking gambling as a major income or not and fought a lot of kind people who held an opposite point. I own them a truly apology. I am sorry. No matter who you are, gambling is only for fun. Never take it as income at anytime. If you are still gambling, you should quit now. If you cannot quit by yourself, there are so many channels to help you. Even you can talk to me. I will do my best to help you.


Just some chemical reaction happened in my mind today, I get the point at that moment. Gambling for income is totally wrong and toxic for spirit and body. You will never be successful in that way. But I like gamble is still the fact and it will never change if doing nothing. So, why not open a stream and show it to all people who have interest on that. Let me prove how hard or easy to quit gamble. I will only gamble the affordable fund only. Maybe less. I am streaming 24/7. If some software problems disrupt, I will fix that except sleeping time.


Quit gambling now!


If you decide to quit gamble or take gamble as entertainment only, welcome to join me.


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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.




Yes Gambling should be for fun only. Its never a substitute of a regular income because of the risk involved.

Risk only that part of your savings which you can afford to loose.

 

Betting will always be our decision, it is up to us whether we want to or not, any decision is up to us, if a person feels the prevailing need to bet because they can't stand it, because they have that need, it is a fact that they have to control, it is something that it has to be done or else things can get very bad, we as humans, or as beings sometimes do not know the power we have for everything, we even have the power to heal, what apsa is that we are so little believers in so many things, that our willpower is very great, to say, we want to get rid of each other, we don't want to play, or we don't want to bet, we can only achieve, that is something that we must see and believe.

The people who cannot really do it, it is because they fell into a very big addiction and this obviously affects their lives and that something that is not wished on anyone, however, what happens here is that when a person falls into addiction it is because I couldn't control his emoticons, and that made him make many mistakes, rather than letting himself be carried away by emoticons, it's because he couldn't control his impulses. In General, when a person suffers from something like a gambling addiction, it is difficult to stop gambling, because the person already depends on it , well , it Creates a dependency and that affects their daily life, so much so that if it is not controlled it can cause misfortunes and that is what Should be Avoided.

I would love for a person to understand that when they say to themselves, I don't want to play, or I don't want to make a bet, they have enough willpower to do it, that can be done, I couldn't say how to do it, just do it , because one cannot have a bad life, one cannot take ill, if there is something that affects us when we do an activity, then we should not do it, if a person knows that they can lose their money playing, do not play, until you have money more to play and not Compromise on the basic things.

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August 16, 2023, 10:29:50 PM
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Perhaps we should be talking about reducing or controlling gambling rather than quitting which seems far too radical for something that be treated with "aspirin" rather than "cutting the leg". Any method that allows you to reduce your gambling to acceptable levels will also have other benefits in life as it increases the self control and can be applied to other things.
What I believe is that,  people are focusing  their energy on the wrong fight,  because fighting gambling by trying to quit is one of the hardest routes to take in battling with over-gambling behaviour,  this is because,  instead of trying to minimize the rate at which their gamble,  they busy trying to quit gambling which is a hard battle.

Minimizing gambling ambition will stabilize the urge to gamble over time and eventually arrive at moderate gambling habits which will at that put the gambler in total control.

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August 16, 2023, 10:46:47 PM
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Perhaps we should be talking about reducing or controlling gambling rather than quitting which seems far too radical for something that be treated with "aspirin" rather than "cutting the leg". Any method that allows you to reduce your gambling to acceptable levels will also have other benefits in life as it increases the self control and can be applied to other things.
What I believe is that,  people are focusing  their energy on the wrong fight,  because fighting gambling by trying to quit is one of the hardest routes to take in battling with over-gambling behaviour,  this is because,  instead of trying to minimize the rate at which their gamble,  they busy trying to quit gambling which is a hard battle.

Minimizing gambling ambition will stabilize the urge to gamble over time and eventually arrive at moderate gambling habits which will at that put the gambler in total control.

Going cold Turkey with any kind of addiction is always harder that reducing it a step at the time.
It reminds me a friend who suffered from a severe addiction to alcohol, to the point he needed to drink regularly sometimes everyday. He once tried to quit completely and he suffer from severe symptoms, both physical and psychological ones.

With gambling I assume it is the same, it takes a plan and support in order to follow it and achieve it. But it is definitely possible, specially if a the person is question is able to slowly replace it with other habits which are not so destructive to both their health and their personal finances.

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August 20, 2023, 10:44:13 PM
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Perhaps we should be talking about reducing or controlling gambling rather than quitting which seems far too radical for something that be treated with "aspirin" rather than "cutting the leg". Any method that allows you to reduce your gambling to acceptable levels will also have other benefits in life as it increases the self control and can be applied to other things.
What I believe is that,  people are focusing  their energy on the wrong fight,  because fighting gambling by trying to quit is one of the hardest routes to take in battling with over-gambling behaviour,  this is because,  instead of trying to minimize the rate at which their gamble,  they busy trying to quit gambling which is a hard battle.

Minimizing gambling ambition will stabilize the urge to gamble over time and eventually arrive at moderate gambling habits which will at that put the gambler in total control.

Going cold Turkey with any kind of addiction is always harder that reducing it a step at the time.
It reminds me a friend who suffered from a severe addiction to alcohol, to the point he needed to drink regularly sometimes everyday. He once tried to quit completely and he suffer from severe symptoms, both physical and psychological ones.

Quitting all of a sudden may have a bad effect to the gambling addict.  It may incur relapses and aside from metal ang physical negative effect, it may even worsen the addiction of a person since the change is abrupt and is not planned.  Aside from that a gambling addict needs external support from families and professionals in order to treat gambling addiction correctly.

With gambling I assume it is the same, it takes a plan and support in order to follow it and achieve it. But it is definitely possible, specially if a the person is question is able to slowly replace it with other habits which are not so destructive to both their health and their personal finances.

I agree, gambling treatment does not need to be rushed to avoid human error and overlooking things that may result in relapses.  Taking it slow and steady is the best method, IMO, in curing gambling addiction because as you stated, everything should be planned perfectly.
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August 21, 2023, 01:01:47 AM
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Perhaps we should be talking about reducing or controlling gambling rather than quitting which seems far too radical for something that be treated with "aspirin" rather than "cutting the leg". Any method that allows you to reduce your gambling to acceptable levels will also have other benefits in life as it increases the self control and can be applied to other things.
What I believe is that,  people are focusing  their energy on the wrong fight,  because fighting gambling by trying to quit is one of the hardest routes to take in battling with over-gambling behaviour,  this is because,  instead of trying to minimize the rate at which their gamble,  they busy trying to quit gambling which is a hard battle.

Minimizing gambling ambition will stabilize the urge to gamble over time and eventually arrive at moderate gambling habits which will at that put the gambler in total control.
Well, one thing I was just thinking about is, if we all actually quit gambling, what happens to gambling casinos? but then, this aside, it is not actually wrong for anyone who feels they are gambling too much to try quitting, I mean, if I was addicted to gambling in any way, the first approach to solving that problem of addiction will be to quit gambling completely for some time, even casinos encourage gamblers to feel their gambling activities is putting them into serious problems to quit, and that is why they provide gamblers with different measures through which they can quit for some time, and possibly come back much later when they have healed off gambling addiction and can have more control over themselves, and one of those ways is self exclusion.

The best approach to addiction is to quit doing that which the person is addicted in, trying to reduce your activity in such while that addiction is still there might never work, you will always still do it excessive than it should be or normal.

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August 21, 2023, 04:05:08 AM
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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

Gambling is not always that easy to quit, most especially when it has turn into a habit, but it can be controlled when it hasn't gotten to that extent which is the reason why we always tell people to be careful and gamble with the amount of money they can always afford to lose, so as not to go bankrupt and end up living a miserable life, all because you gave gave your all hope to gambling, and it never worked the way you thought.

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August 21, 2023, 04:25:59 AM
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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

Gambling is not always that easy to quit, most especially when it has turn into a habit, but it can be controlled when it hasn't gotten to that extent which is the reason why we always tell people to be careful and gamble with the amount of money they can always afford to lose, so as not to go bankrupt and end up living a miserable life, all because you gave gave your all hope to gambling, and it never worked the way you thought.
Yes, to stop gambling you need a process and it takes time to get rid of it because the habit also makes the severity different. If he is an addict who only gambles on weekends, it will be easier for him to stop gambling and it will not take long either if there is a gambling addict who plays gambling every time it is clearly difficult, the best thing to do is reduce it slowly.

But it all comes back to his own intention, because it is also difficult to stop but in his heart he has no desire to stop gambling, reducing and learning to control is a basic lesson to be able to stop it all slowly, because I know that see my friend who is an addict it took a long time for him to really completely stop gambling. it is not as easy as imagined but with the intention it will be faster.

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August 21, 2023, 05:28:54 AM
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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

Gambling is not always that easy to quit, most especially when it has turn into a habit, but it can be controlled when it hasn't gotten to that extent which is the reason why we always tell people to be careful and gamble with the amount of money they can always afford to lose, so as not to go bankrupt and end up living a miserable life, all because you gave gave your all hope to gambling, and it never worked the way you thought.
Yes, to stop gambling you need a process and it takes time to get rid of it because the habit also makes the severity different. If he is an addict who only gambles on weekends, it will be easier for him to stop gambling and it will not take long either if there is a gambling addict who plays gambling every time it is clearly difficult, the best thing to do is reduce it slowly.

But it all comes back to his own intention, because it is also difficult to stop but in his heart he has no desire to stop gambling, reducing and learning to control is a basic lesson to be able to stop it all slowly, because I know that see my friend who is an addict it took a long time for him to really completely stop gambling. it is not as easy as imagined but with the intention it will be faster.

Just because someone gambles occasionally doesn't mean they can't change that and they can start to gamble more and more often, even when they have important things to do, family, work, etc. If you can control yourself, set boundaries and most of all  hold her, then it's okay.  On topic - if you can't stop gambling then you have a big problem - of course you can lie to yourself that you don't, but the truth is that in this situation it's really hard to stop gambling and it's best to ask others for help, first of all  go to therapy and slowly return to a normal life, but no longer gambling.

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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

Gambling is not always that easy to quit, most especially when it has turn into a habit, but it can be controlled when it hasn't gotten to that extent which is the reason why we always tell people to be careful and gamble with the amount of money they can always afford to lose, so as not to go bankrupt and end up living a miserable life, all because you gave gave your all hope to gambling, and it never worked the way you thought.
Yes, to stop gambling you need a process and it takes time to get rid of it because the habit also makes the severity different. If he is an addict who only gambles on weekends, it will be easier for him to stop gambling and it will not take long either if there is a gambling addict who plays gambling every time it is clearly difficult, the best thing to do is reduce it slowly.

But it all comes back to his own intention, because it is also difficult to stop but in his heart he has no desire to stop gambling, reducing and learning to control is a basic lesson to be able to stop it all slowly, because I know that see my friend who is an addict it took a long time for him to really completely stop gambling. it is not as easy as imagined but with the intention it will be faster.

Like you I think the most important thing for people to do when they are trying to quit gambling is to break your daily habits and focus on other things. Especially when we are used to gamble at a fixed time, like every evening after dinner. Then you need another occupation for that time to get your mind of gambling. Humans love their daily routines and once a habit is formed it becomes really hard to break it again. Like with anything in life that we got used to and enjoy, a change is not going to happen overnight. There will always be setbacks and we shouldn't be discouraged by them. Change takes dedication and effort over time. It's important that the gambling addict realises his problem and actually wants to change, because it will lead to nowhere if there is not a strong will to change the current situation. Even with the best help in the world it won't change much if people don't realise that they are in trouble and need help to get out of it. For someone struggling with severe gambling addiction it would also be helpful to try to visit an institution that is specialised for it.

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August 21, 2023, 09:24:39 AM
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Just because someone gambles occasionally doesn't mean they can't change that and they can start to gamble more and more often, even when they have important things to do, family, work, etc. If you can control yourself, set boundaries and most of all  hold her, then it's okay.  On topic - if you can't stop gambling then you have a big problem - of course you can lie to yourself that you don't, but the truth is that in this situation it's really hard to stop gambling and it's best to ask others for help, first of all  go to therapy and slowly return to a normal life, but no longer gambling.
So the most important thing is that we have self-control and set limits in gambling because that can prevent us from becoming addicted to gambling. As long as we can take care of it and still have it, we don't have to worry about any problems and can enjoy gambling as we should. But we also have to be open to other people when we have problems with gambling, for example, if we find it a bit difficult to stop gambling, we can ask for help from other people so they can find a way for us. I think people can do it but have to have a strong desire to cure gambling addiction and return to normal life.

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August 21, 2023, 09:37:20 AM
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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

Gambling is not always that easy to quit, most especially when it has turn into a habit, but it can be controlled when it hasn't gotten to that extent which is the reason why we always tell people to be careful and gamble with the amount of money they can always afford to lose, so as not to go bankrupt and end up living a miserable life, all because you gave gave your all hope to gambling, and it never worked the way you thought.
Yes, to stop gambling you need a process and it takes time to get rid of it because the habit also makes the severity different. If he is an addict who only gambles on weekends, it will be easier for him to stop gambling and it will not take long either if there is a gambling addict who plays gambling every time it is clearly difficult, the best thing to do is reduce it slowly.

But it all comes back to his own intention, because it is also difficult to stop but in his heart he has no desire to stop gambling, reducing and learning to control is a basic lesson to be able to stop it all slowly, because I know that see my friend who is an addict it took a long time for him to really completely stop gambling. it is not as easy as imagined but with the intention it will be faster.


Like you I think the most important thing for people to do when they are trying to quit gambling is to break your daily habits and focus on other things. Especially when we are used to gamble at a fixed time, like every evening after dinner. Then you need another occupation for that time to get your mind of gambling. Humans love their daily routines and once a habit is formed it becomes really hard to break it again. Like with anything in life that we got used to and enjoy, a change is not going to happen overnight. There will always be setbacks and we shouldn't be discouraged by them. Change takes dedication and effort over time. It's important that the gambling addict realises his problem and actually wants to change, because it will lead to nowhere if there is not a strong will to change the current situation. Even with the best help in the world it won't change much if people don't realise that they are in trouble and need help to get out of it. For someone struggling with severe gambling addiction it would also be helpful to try to visit an institution that is specialised for it.


Breaking bad habits has its benefits, but let's be clear: not all gambling is as nasty as you make it out to be. What if someone gets pleasure from making a harmless bet every night? You cast it in such a dire light!

It's true that humans are creatures of habit. But it's just naive to compare any kind of gambling to an addiction. What do you know? I agree that change is difficult. But to say that any individual who wagers once in a while ought to register with a facility? That is rather dramatic.

Recall that not everyone views leisure and enjoyment in the same ways. Your definition of "healthy" does not apply to everyone. While some people require assistance, many others just enjoy gambling sensibly and don't see any problems. It is best to take that perspective into account before using such a large brush.

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August 21, 2023, 04:01:58 PM
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As for me it would be nice to make a pause in the game and spend some time for analyze - how much time you spend for gambling per week/month, how much money you lose, how many time you spend with your friends and family, etc.
After it the gambler can understand if the gambling a problem for him or not.

Don't you know that some compulsive gamblers lose some sense of reasoning and cannot even think the way you have described? All their concerns are just how to gamble, have fun, and earn money from it. My friend's girlfriend was telling me stuff about her dad some days ago; she said her dad is a Gambling addict and that she sent some money to him for him to buy her a plot of land, and the man assured her that he had already bought the plot of land. While he was lying, instead he used the money to gamble, and he lost the money. That was really a huge amount of money, but this man gambled it off. I was just surprised at how some dads have even lost their dignity and self-respect for their daughter to just waste some money that is not even their own.
I don`t see the problem if the gambler get profit from the gambling. Of course it depends on lots of moment like how much money he get, how much time he spend, etc. And in your example i think that this woman knows about her father`s problem but send him money anyway. It is only her mistake. And her father has more money for gambling and can continue waiting big win. He must lose the opportunity for gambling, only after it he can think about his deeds.
I think the lady believed her father. Maybe the lady never imagined that her father would become so addicted to gambling. I will never say gambling is bad but I will not support using other people's money or any necessary money to gamble. If the woman knew her father was an addicted gambler, she would never give him the money. When a gambler loses more money in gambling he tries to recover that money whether he is addicted or not. If luck favor then many can recover the money but most of the time it is difficult to recover the loss at that moment.

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August 21, 2023, 05:04:04 PM
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I think the lady believed her father. Maybe the lady never imagined that her father would become so addicted to gambling. I will never say gambling is bad but I will not support using other people's money or any necessary money to gamble. If the woman knew her father was an addicted gambler, she would never give him the money. When a gambler loses more money in gambling he tries to recover that money whether he is addicted or not. If luck favor then many can recover the money but most of the time it is difficult to recover the loss at that moment.
I am sure that the woman did not know that the money sent to her father was used for gambling, if she found out then she would be very disappointed and maybe she would not send anymore money or limit the money to be sent to her parents, the father should have been self conscious not to use that money in gambling activities because his father is very dependent on the economic needs of his son's income, it is better for the old man to stop gambling without his own income and the best solution is to enjoy old age without gambling addiction.

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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

Gambling is not always that easy to quit, most especially when it has turn into a habit, but it can be controlled when it hasn't gotten to that extent which is the reason why we always tell people to be careful and gamble with the amount of money they can always afford to lose, so as not to go bankrupt and end up living a miserable life, all because you gave gave your all hope to gambling, and it never worked the way you thought.

I also think a lot about what you have said and that is that the players who are very frequent in a casino build the habit and that is difficult to quit when it should be quit, either because serious damage is being done and it is affecting life our day, in this case an escape plan has to be made quickly without leaving consequences, hopefully when we all have a habit we say, "I'll quit today" and that's it, nothing else happens, but it's not that easy, because we are more than customs and that is the difficult thing, sometimes a process of stopping doing something is very difficult for us and it is normal, when you go to a psychologist it is a good option, but what you really have to do is have the will to leave it to to make things easier, if there is no will, even if you have the best of psychologists, psychiatrists, you will not get better.
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Boys. It is time to quit gamble. I created a topic about taking gambling as a major income or not and fought a lot of kind people who held an opposite point. I own them a truly apology. I am sorry. No matter who you are, gambling is only for fun. Never take it as income at anytime. If you are still gambling, you should quit now. If you cannot quit by yourself, there are so many channels to help you. Even you can talk to me. I will do my best to help you.

Just some chemical reaction happened in my mind today, I get the point at that moment. Gambling for income is totally wrong and toxic for spirit and body. You will never be successful in that way. But I like gamble is still the fact and it will never change if doing nothing. So, why not open a stream and show it to all people who have interest on that. Let me prove how hard or easy to quit gamble. I will only gamble the affordable fund only. Maybe less. I am streaming 24/7. If some software problems disrupt, I will fix that except sleeping time.

Everyone handles quitting their addiction differently, but in the end people often reach a final moment of enlightenment, like you seem to have achieved, where they finally decide that enough is enough. This can be the main problem with trying to get people to quit involuntarily, unless they've reached the point where they no longer receive any joy from the addiction, then they will continue to find new ways to do it. However if you reach that point and start to formulate a plan for quitting, which will involve staying away from it entirely and possibly forever, then you can start to feel a moment of peace that you're regaining control. It does require active concentration and being on guard against falling back into it though, with the first few weeks being the toughest to get through.

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August 22, 2023, 07:00:43 AM
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I don`t see the problem if the gambler get profit from the gambling. Of course it depends on lots of moment like how much money he get, how much time he spend, etc. And in your example i think that this woman knows about her father`s problem but send him money anyway. It is only her mistake. And her father has more money for gambling and can continue waiting big win. He must lose the opportunity for gambling, only after it he can think about his deeds.
I think the lady believed her father. Maybe the lady never imagined that her father would become so addicted to gambling. I will never say gambling is bad but I will not support using other people's money or any necessary money to gamble. If the woman knew her father was an addicted gambler, she would never give him the money. When a gambler loses more money in gambling he tries to recover that money whether he is addicted or not. If luck favor then many can recover the money but most of the time it is difficult to recover the loss at that moment.
I agree and disagree the same time. It is awful to use someone`s money for gambling - the first rule is plan how much money you ready to lose when you start gambling. And the second rule is don`t try to recover money.
No luck, no "last try" - just stop when you lose planned sum. If it is a problem - leave all other money at home. And of course - nobody must give some more money this man.

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August 22, 2023, 07:20:36 AM
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Boys. You can't imagine how relax I am when decide to quit gamble. Here is the way. I will stream all my gambling behavior with recording. No stream No gamble. If you are going through the same situation, join me. You will obtain a new life.

Gambling is not always that easy to quit, most especially when it has turn into a habit, but it can be controlled when it hasn't gotten to that extent which is the reason why we always tell people to be careful and gamble with the amount of money they can always afford to lose, so as not to go bankrupt and end up living a miserable life, all because you gave gave your all hope to gambling, and it never worked the way you thought.
Yes, to stop gambling you need a process and it takes time to get rid of it because the habit also makes the severity different. If he is an addict who only gambles on weekends, it will be easier for him to stop gambling and it will not take long either if there is a gambling addict who plays gambling every time it is clearly difficult, the best thing to do is reduce it slowly.

But it all comes back to his own intention, because it is also difficult to stop but in his heart he has no desire to stop gambling, reducing and learning to control is a basic lesson to be able to stop it all slowly, because I know that see my friend who is an addict it took a long time for him to really completely stop gambling. it is not as easy as imagined but with the intention it will be faster.


Like you I think the most important thing for people to do when they are trying to quit gambling is to break your daily habits and focus on other things. Especially when we are used to gamble at a fixed time, like every evening after dinner. Then you need another occupation for that time to get your mind of gambling. Humans love their daily routines and once a habit is formed it becomes really hard to break it again. Like with anything in life that we got used to and enjoy, a change is not going to happen overnight. There will always be setbacks and we shouldn't be discouraged by them. Change takes dedication and effort over time. It's important that the gambling addict realises his problem and actually wants to change, because it will lead to nowhere if there is not a strong will to change the current situation. Even with the best help in the world it won't change much if people don't realise that they are in trouble and need help to get out of it. For someone struggling with severe gambling addiction it would also be helpful to try to visit an institution that is specialised for it.


Breaking bad habits has its benefits, but let's be clear: not all gambling is as nasty as you make it out to be. What if someone gets pleasure from making a harmless bet every night? You cast it in such a dire light!

It's true that humans are creatures of habit. But it's just naive to compare any kind of gambling to an addiction. What do you know? I agree that change is difficult. But to say that any individual who wagers once in a while ought to register with a facility? That is rather dramatic.

Recall that not everyone views leisure and enjoyment in the same ways. Your definition of "healthy" does not apply to everyone. While some people require assistance, many others just enjoy gambling sensibly and don't see any problems. It is best to take that perspective into account before using such a large brush.
Just like them, I agree with some of your points but not all, they have their valid points for one to be careful with gambling issues even from the beginning. If such could get help especially when he/she knows that they have a weak mind is never a bad idea. What I notice here is that you down-talk the danger of gambling addiction which should not be. Some started it with the view of entertainment to kill boredom but they were engrossed in it and it became difficult for them to control.

This is why I conclude by saying that anyone who wants to gamble should first define the reason they want to do so, and they should go further by knowing the danger of gambling as an adult in order to guide against it. This doesn't stop anyone from still gambling but getting prepared for the unexpected. It's never wise to down-talk something that has a track record of plaguing many.

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August 22, 2023, 08:33:22 AM
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I think the lady believed her father. Maybe the lady never imagined that her father would become so addicted to gambling. I will never say gambling is bad but I will not support using other people's money or any necessary money to gamble. If the woman knew her father was an addicted gambler, she would never give him the money. When a gambler loses more money in gambling he tries to recover that money whether he is addicted or not. If luck favor then many can recover the money but most of the time it is difficult to recover the loss at that moment.
I am sure that the woman did not know that the money sent to her father was used for gambling, if she found out then she would be very disappointed and maybe she would not send anymore money or limit the money to be sent to her parents, the father should have been self conscious not to use that money in gambling activities because his father is very dependent on the economic needs of his son's income, it is better for the old man to stop gambling without his own income and the best solution is to enjoy old age without gambling addiction.
I agree with you that in old age most of the time one has to depend on one's children so wasting their money on gambling is bad. Here it is very difficult to recover losses because gambling depends on luck therefore, stop gambling and prepare yourself to try to understand the various harmful aspects of gambling addiction. Addicts often don't want to think about it or don't remember it. Instead of this habit, you have to prepare yourself by analyzing the symptoms or the reasons behind the harmful effects. At least I have to come to the conclusion that I want to quit gambling only then old age will be beautiful.

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I don`t see the problem if the gambler get profit from the gambling. Of course it depends on lots of moment like how much money he get, how much time he spend, etc. And in your example i think that this woman knows about her father`s problem but send him money anyway. It is only her mistake. And her father has more money for gambling and can continue waiting big win. He must lose the opportunity for gambling, only after it he can think about his deeds.
I think the lady believed her father. Maybe the lady never imagined that her father would become so addicted to gambling. I will never say gambling is bad but I will not support using other people's money or any necessary money to gamble. If the woman knew her father was an addicted gambler, she would never give him the money. When a gambler loses more money in gambling he tries to recover that money whether he is addicted or not. If luck favor then many can recover the money but most of the time it is difficult to recover the loss at that moment.
I agree and disagree the same time. It is awful to use someone`s money for gambling - the first rule is plan how much money you ready to lose when you start gambling. And the second rule is don`t try to recover money.
No luck, no "last try" - just stop when you lose planned sum. If it is a problem - leave all other money at home. And of course - nobody must give some more money this man.
I think it should be like this.
First rule - gamble your own money and bet only the amount of money you afford to lose. The father spends the money that was sent to him which basically not his own money, therefore, he seems like he doesn't care what will happen to the money.
Second rule - don't chase big winnings, this will only lead to making more losses than making money.

And if ever that you feel you're not winning in gambling, it's better to stop. Maybe gambling is not really for you


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