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September 16, 2023, 08:04:15 PM
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Yes I did say that, I don't think that there's any kind of moderation in gambling, and yes it's difficult to be moderate about when you've been gambling consistently. Anything addicting, when you start doing it, you're already hooked, you just don't know it yet. The consistency doesn't have to daily, as long as there's a pattern and a habit, it's still an addiction.

Mate you're right, there's no moderation in gambling because people are too much in gambling and so also we have do many gambling platforms we cannot regulate them all, though government on thier own are trying to make some influence regarding this but yet there's no total victory in regulating every gambler, we are the ones that should take full responsibility to how we gamble and moderate ourselves in gambling.

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September 16, 2023, 08:17:21 PM
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Why did you say that there is no moderation in gambling? Is it that you believe the nature of gambling it difficult that anyone that gambles cannot do so in moderation or you are doubting the ability of the gamblers to gamble in moderation?
I can say that I am a moderate gambler. Yes! I am . Do you know that I can place multiple bets on sports betting and days after the match, I will not remember to check the outcome. It is only when I want to bet again, maybe next weekend that I'll know if my portfolio added or reduced. How will you call my habit of gambling?
Yes I did say that, I don't think that there's any kind of moderation in gambling, and yes it's difficult to be moderate about when you've been gambling consistently. Anything addicting, when you start doing it, you're already hooked, you just don't know it yet. The consistency doesn't have to daily, as long as there's a pattern and a habit, it's still an addiction.
Well, I completely disagree with you, before you talk about addiction and say that consistency doest matter, try and look up the definition of addiction..

According to the oxford dictionary, it defines addiction to be physically and mentally dependent on an activity or substance.

Now when someone is mentally and physically dependent on something, what do you think happens to that person on a daily basis?, such person will have to engage in that thing daily because that is their primary source of comfort and possibly, medication for stress..

When someone is addicted to gambling, consistent and daily gambling is a priority for them, even if the person have other activities he or she engages on, he or she will still make out time to gamble because, if he or she doesn't, he or she may likely no feel comfortable since he or she mentally depends on it for comfort.

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September 16, 2023, 08:26:19 PM
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Why did you say that there is no moderation in gambling? Is it that you believe the nature of gambling it difficult that anyone that gambles cannot do so in moderation or you are doubting the ability of the gamblers to gamble in moderation?
I can say that I am a moderate gambler. Yes! I am . Do you know that I can place multiple bets on sports betting and days after the match, I will not remember to check the outcome. It is only when I want to bet again, maybe next weekend that I'll know if my portfolio added or reduced. How will you call my habit of gambling?
Yes I did say that, I don't think that there's any kind of moderation in gambling, and yes it's difficult to be moderate about when you've been gambling consistently. Anything addicting, when you start doing it, you're already hooked, you just don't know it yet. The consistency doesn't have to daily, as long as there's a pattern and a habit, it's still an addiction.
We know that the most common behavior or quality of a certain gambler specially addicted ones on which they are really that always be denying that they are really that addicted into gambling.They would really be

always be saying that they do play in moderation and control but seeing on what are the things that he's doing which it is a solid indicative sign that you are already addicted to it. If they are on the state of
sessions where they are playing or having that kind of habit then it might be in controlled manner but sooner or later you would really be falling into the category that you might really be that getting addicted with gambling if you cant really be able to changed up that behavior or having that control or moderation then for sure you would really be falling into this.,

Once addiction do overcome into yourself then getting out would really be the toughest thing to be done on which you cant really be able to get out easily unless if you are
a person who do have that strong will and control then its possible but not all does have this kind of behavior or characteristics.

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September 16, 2023, 09:57:24 PM
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According to the oxford dictionary, it defines addiction to be physically and mentally dependent on an activity or substance.

Now when someone is mentally and physically dependent on something, what do you think happens to that person on a daily basis?, such person will have to engage in that thing daily because that is their primary source of comfort and possibly, medication for stress..

When someone is addicted to gambling, consistent and daily gambling is a priority for them, even if the person have other activities he or she engages on, he or she will still make out time to gamble because, if he or she doesn't, he or she may likely no feel comfortable since he or she mentally depends on it for comfort.
When it comes to dependency, then you know your in a real problem. It’s such a situation because, you just wouldn’t find any other way to a survival or leave life without whatever you’ve built your life around.

Addiction is never an easy fight for just anyone and it takes an individual to wake himself or herself up and realize just how much he isn’t helping himself or herself to get out of the situation. It doesn’t matter what your told by someone but, what you tell yourself. What you get to realize about your situation because, it could only get worst.
You might find help to keep off the path but, it’s always going to start with you accepting that, it ain’t helping.

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September 16, 2023, 10:31:14 PM
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Please let's correct that statement about taking gambling as a daily source of income because it's really an impossible journey for one to actually think that he or she can make daily earnings from a casino and thats why I don't ever support such statements. Although gambling is seen as different view for different individuals but the fact still remains that it can never generate income on a steady.

It's still for such reasons that some people lose self-control over gambling, thereby becoming addicted to gambling, but although some people gamble, they make some good wins and still pay some bills that the family needs. But yet, it doesn't justify the fact that gambling can be seen as a daily source of income because even the money that comes from winning a game is not usually fixed, and the gambler cannot decide if they will be able to win or lose every day and how much. Just like you said, DaNNy001, I also don't agree that gambling should not be seen as a source of income, because if it really was, then everyone would be doing it to make money and meet their daily needs and desires.

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It's still for such reasons that some people lose self-control over gambling, thereby becoming addicted to gambling, but although some people gamble, they make some good wins and still pay some bills that the family needs. But yet, it doesn't justify the fact that gambling can be seen as a daily source of income because even the money that comes from winning a game is not usually fixed, and the gambler cannot decide if they will be able to win or lose every day and how much. Just like you said, DaNNy001, I also don't agree that gambling should not be seen as a source of income, because if it really was, then everyone would be doing it to make money and meet their daily needs and desires.

To be honest, I still dont quite understand how there is people around internet even suggesting gambling can be a reliable way to earn money (as a gambler). Gambling is a business and in order for a business to survive, it is supposed to be profitable, if there were a reliable way to gamble and defeat the house, then gambling would not be a business anymore and those big resorts and casinos in Las Vegas won't pay themselves.

Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.

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September 16, 2023, 11:37:34 PM
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I guess, there is an adage that says "one man's food is a Poison to another".  Alot of people derives joy in gambling, while some takes it as a daily way to earn and also loss their funds. Just because you've made up your mind to stop gambling don't mean that others should stop. Everyone has a choice in life. How you decide to live today will tell your tomorrow so everyone bears their own problems. The only problem that comes with gambling, is it's addiction as someone who never tried it before decides to try for the first time and then "boom, he cashs out a huge amount. You don't expect such person to stop gambling. This will make him or her, to try more even when he encounters losses.
Please let's correct that statement about taking gambling as a daily source of income because it's really an impossible journey for one to actually think that he or she can make daily earnings from a casino and thats why I don't ever support such statements. Although gambling is seen as different view for different individuals but the fact still remains that it can never generate income on a steady.

I also agree with you , we must never consider that gambling can be a source of income, because it is a way for us not to be up to date with what reality is, a casino cannot be a source of income, because there are many things to consider, the first is that the casino will always have the house advantage, which will make it win in the long term , the player should only take advantage of those Opportunities when they are winnable and they are few, and the casino should not be seen in That way, because it is first to have fun and secondly it is a very easy way to lose our money if you play in a very crazy way, anyone who thinks that the casino is a source of income is always not right in their head.


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September 17, 2023, 08:46:33 AM
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I guess, there is an adage that says "one man's food is a Poison to another".  Alot of people derives joy in gambling, while some takes it as a daily way to earn and also loss their funds. Just because you've made up your mind to stop gambling don't mean that others should stop. Everyone has a choice in life. How you decide to live today will tell your tomorrow so everyone bears their own problems. The only problem that comes with gambling, is it's addiction as someone who never tried it before decides to try for the first time and then "boom, he cashs out a huge amount. You don't expect such person to stop gambling. This will make him or her, to try more even when he encounters losses.
Please let's correct that statement about taking gambling as a daily source of income because it's really an impossible journey for one to actually think that he or she can make daily earnings from a casino and thats why I don't ever support such statements. Although gambling is seen as different view for different individuals but the fact still remains that it can never generate income on a steady.

I also agree with you , we must never consider that gambling can be a source of income, because it is a way for us not to be up to date with what reality is, a casino cannot be a source of income, because there are many things to consider, the first is that the casino will always have the house advantage, which will make it win in the long term , the player should only take advantage of those Opportunities when they are winnable and they are few, and the casino should not be seen in That way, because it is first to have fun and secondly it is a very easy way to lose our money if you play in a very crazy way, anyone who thinks that the casino is a source of income is always not right in their head.



Indeed, with that kind of mindset you will always chase for a win, and from that you will be push to keep playing, leading you to a possible addiction, I think and maybe there are some who can make some money but more will lose and unable to control and become addicted, which what the casino really aiming, keep bringing more offers to allure gamblers to keep playing back.

As a source of income, it is generally for the casino owners and those who are working in favor of the house, referrals and other kind
of things that relate to casino.

But in terms of gambling itself, better to take it as a source of entertainment and not to exceed from it.

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September 17, 2023, 09:33:46 AM
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Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
Yes, just think of gambling as a place of entertainment, where when we lose and lose money, just think of it as paying for the pleasure we get, so it's not too painful and thinking about the loss, but besides that, just think of it as paying for an expensive hobby, there's no problem as long as you have the mindset. we think of gambling as such rather than considering gambling as a source of income.

It certainly won't be possible to become a source of income, let alone provide a steady income, because hoping like that will not bring real achievements from gambling and will only destroy the gambler's hopes in the end, the mindset must remain positive like this because it will not enable us to become addicted. but if you occasionally feel a win, pull it out and enjoy it no matter how much money you lose.  Grin

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September 17, 2023, 10:33:19 AM
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But in terms of gambling itself, better to take it as a source of entertainment and not to exceed from it.

That's a subjective matter, as there are people who can make a living through gambling. While they may be few in number, their existence does demonstrate that it's possible to make a living in gambling even though we are not the operators.

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September 17, 2023, 11:02:39 AM
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Yes I did say that, I don't think that there's any kind of moderation in gambling, and yes it's difficult to be moderate about when you've been gambling consistently. Anything addicting, when you start doing it, you're already hooked, you just don't know it yet. The consistency doesn't have to daily, as long as there's a pattern and a habit, it's still an addiction.

Mate you're right, there's no moderation in gambling because people are too much in gambling and so also we have do many gambling platforms we cannot regulate them all, though government on thier own are trying to make some influence regarding this but yet there's no total victory in regulating every gambler, we are the ones that should take full responsibility to how we gamble and moderate ourselves in gambling.
It is true that we must be able to take responsibility for all the actions we have taken and this includes the gambling activities we are currently carrying out. And I am quite aware that doing this is very difficult. Gambling can make us forget and blind to everything. Sometimes, when someone is addicted to gambling, it is not uncommon for them to spend all day gambling and continue to make deposits without paying attention to the amount they spend to be able to gamble.
And indeed, if we don't try to overcome the negative impacts of gambling ourselves, then who will? And I am sure that if we have a strong determination to manage our finances and time then we will be able to control the gambling activities we do.

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September 17, 2023, 11:12:21 AM
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Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
Yes, just think of gambling as a place of entertainment, where when we lose and lose money, just think of it as paying for the pleasure we get, so it's not too painful and thinking about the loss, but besides that, just think of it as paying for an expensive hobby, there's no problem as long as you have the mindset. we think of gambling as such rather than considering gambling as a source of income.

It certainly won't be possible to become a source of income, let alone provide a steady income, because hoping like that will not bring real achievements from gambling and will only destroy the gambler's hopes in the end, the mindset must remain positive like this because it will not enable us to become addicted. but if you occasionally feel a win, pull it out and enjoy it no matter how much money you lose.  Grin

Well that's better and indeed everyone (gamblers) should also have this mindset my friend, where he should think that gambling is nothing more than an activity for fun and as a reward they will get a win if they are lucky. And with this kind of mindset I don't think they will suffer or get any pressure there because they themselves have accepted that this is just for fun, that's right, just think of the money they lose as payment for the fun they get there, it will be better than you keep thinking about losing and want to keep playing for victory to restore the defeat in the previous time, obviously that is very wrong.

Maybe those who think that gambling can be a place to earn income are only for those who are addicted and their brains are disturbed. let's discuss, how can you earn even consistently from a place that only relies on luck? obviously that is very silly, I don't understand what happened to you to think that way. You have to quickly change that mindset if you don't want to fall into a slump and lose all your assets. Don't overdo it, it will only add to the problem, so I think it's better from now on to change your mindset, it's just a matter of luck guys, nothing more than that.

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September 17, 2023, 03:09:06 PM
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Yes I did say that, I don't think that there's any kind of moderation in gambling, and yes it's difficult to be moderate about when you've been gambling consistently. Anything addicting, when you start doing it, you're already hooked, you just don't know it yet. The consistency doesn't have to daily, as long as there's a pattern and a habit, it's still an addiction.
Sure is not possible to moderate gambling but actually it cause for a great concern the rate at which most people are going to an extent to gamble, they are ready to sell there properties all in the name of gambling, what surprises me is there positive mindset no matter how many times they loss they are always positive they will win so it will be very difficult for someone like that to quit gambling because it entails determination and dicipline for an addicted gambler to quit gamble because the factors or force behind addiction is very strong that it always tries to pull you back whenever you want to quit.

In everything we are doing there should be self control and dicipline that is the only way you can eradicate addiction because so many people are having this challenge , they wish to quit but can't resist the addiction so truly is very hard for an addicted gambler to quit.

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September 17, 2023, 04:04:00 PM
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Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
Yes, just think of gambling as a place of entertainment, where when we lose and lose money, just think of it as paying for the pleasure we get, so it's not too painful and thinking about the loss, but besides that, just think of it as paying for an expensive hobby, there's no problem as long as you have the mindset. we think of gambling as such rather than considering gambling as a source of income.

It certainly won't be possible to become a source of income, let alone provide a steady income, because hoping like that will not bring real achievements from gambling and will only destroy the gambler's hopes in the end, the mindset must remain positive like this because it will not enable us to become addicted. but if you occasionally feel a win, pull it out and enjoy it no matter how much money you lose.  Grin

Well that's better and indeed everyone (gamblers) should also have this mindset my friend, where he should think that gambling is nothing more than an activity for fun and as a reward they will get a win if they are lucky. And with this kind of mindset I don't think they will suffer or get any pressure there because they themselves have accepted that this is just for fun, that's right, just think of the money they lose as payment for the fun they get there, it will be better than you keep thinking about losing and want to keep playing for victory to restore the defeat in the previous time, obviously that is very wrong.

Maybe those who think that gambling can be a place to earn income are only for those who are addicted and their brains are disturbed. let's discuss, how can you earn even consistently from a place that only relies on luck? obviously that is very silly, I don't understand what happened to you to think that way. You have to quickly change that mindset if you don't want to fall into a slump and lose all your assets. Don't overdo it, it will only add to the problem, so I think it's better from now on to change your mindset, it's just a matter of luck guys, nothing more than that.
So, you think gambling is all fun and games until it's not? Couldn't agree more. Anyone who believes gambling is a guaranteed source of income is either lying or needs a serious wake-up call. I've rubbed shoulders with many seasoned gamblers, and let me tell you, even the so-called 'professionals' face major downswings. Thinking you can game the system is just... absurd. You want consistent income? Get a job or invest wisely. Casinos aren't your golden goose; they're a playground. And if you're playing with more than you can afford to lose, then guess what? The joke's on you. So, while I admire your optimism, always remember that gambling is an entertainment venue, not an ATM

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September 17, 2023, 06:07:02 PM
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To be honest, I still dont quite understand how there is people around internet even suggesting gambling can be a reliable way to earn money (as a gambler). Gambling is a business and in order for a business to survive, it is supposed to be profitable, if there were a reliable way to gamble and defeat the house, then gambling would not be a business anymore and those big resorts and casinos in Las Vegas won't pay themselves.

Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
I agree with you and real evidence that we can see and it is simpler is that no casino has gone bankrupt.
From the understanding you said and the simple words I said, it is very clear that gambling not the right place to make money or double money but is more appropriate to entertain yourself looking for fun with friends or alone to enjoy luck that will come but if you are not lucky consider it just an entertaining game.
The problem with news on the internet is that I also read a lot of article about how to make money from gambling and I think this something ridiculous, whereas gambling business runs to make money, not to give money to gamblers, so gambling will never give big wins from small bets apart from luck, even when we are lucky, we always get problem related to being accused by gambling parties of making mistakes.
so still the casino wins and we will lose and how amusing yourself will be much more fun than misleading yourself from the hope of a big win.

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September 17, 2023, 07:01:30 PM
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To be honest, I still dont quite understand how there is people around internet even suggesting gambling can be a reliable way to earn money (as a gambler). Gambling is a business and in order for a business to survive, it is supposed to be profitable, if there were a reliable way to gamble and defeat the house, then gambling would not be a business anymore and those big resorts and casinos in Las Vegas won't pay themselves.

Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
I agree with you and real evidence that we can see and it is simpler is that no casino has gone bankrupt.
From the understanding you said and the simple words I said, it is very clear that gambling not the right place to make money or double money but is more appropriate to entertain yourself looking for fun with friends or alone to enjoy luck that will come but if you are not lucky consider it just an entertaining game.
The problem with news on the internet is that I also read a lot of article about how to make money from gambling and I think this something ridiculous, whereas gambling business runs to make money, not to give money to gamblers, so gambling will never give big wins from small bets apart from luck, even when we are lucky, we always get problem related to being accused by gambling parties of making mistakes.
so still the casino wins and we will lose and how amusing yourself will be much more fun than misleading yourself from the hope of a big win.

Actually, I think there has been instances of casinos and game places which have gone bankrupt, but it had little or nothing to do with gamblers draining dry the bankroll of the institution but other reasons.
One of the best examples that come to mind is the old Trump Plaza, a resort owned by Trump's organization and it ended up being permanently closed.

Anyways, as we both agree, the day gambling becomes profitable for gamblers in a reliable way, it will be the day the casino industry will end as we know it.

If you feel like reading more about Trump's casino, you can see more information about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Plaza_Hotel_and_Casino

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September 17, 2023, 07:09:43 PM
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It is true that we must be able to take responsibility for all the actions we have taken and this includes the gambling activities we are currently carrying out. And I am quite aware that doing this is very difficult. Gambling can make us forget and blind to everything. Sometimes, when someone is addicted to gambling, it is not uncommon for them to spend all day gambling and continue to make deposits without paying attention to the amount they spend to be able to gamble.
And indeed, if we don't try to overcome the negative impacts of gambling ourselves, then who will? And I am sure that if we have a strong determination to manage our finances and time then we will be able to control the gambling activities we do.
It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

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September 17, 2023, 08:48:38 PM
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To be honest, I still dont quite understand how there is people around internet even suggesting gambling can be a reliable way to earn money (as a gambler). Gambling is a business and in order for a business to survive, it is supposed to be profitable, if there were a reliable way to gamble and defeat the house, then gambling would not be a business anymore and those big resorts and casinos in Las Vegas won't pay themselves.

Only see gambling as a hobby and if you even find yourself having a good luck streak and pocketing some bucks, then be sure to enjoy them (or part of them) instead gambling it all away.
I agree with you and real evidence that we can see and it is simpler is that no casino has gone bankrupt.
From the understanding you said and the simple words I said, it is very clear that gambling not the right place to make money or double money but is more appropriate to entertain yourself looking for fun with friends or alone to enjoy luck that will come but if you are not lucky consider it just an entertaining game.
The problem with news on the internet is that I also read a lot of article about how to make money from gambling and I think this something ridiculous, whereas gambling business runs to make money, not to give money to gamblers, so gambling will never give big wins from small bets apart from luck, even when we are lucky, we always get problem related to being accused by gambling parties of making mistakes.
so still the casino wins and we will lose and how amusing yourself will be much more fun than misleading yourself from the hope of a big win.
It's quite funny to think some folks out there believe casinos are the way to pad their wallets. Honey, casinos aren't built on winners. If they were, Las Vegas would be a ghost town. The house always win, and the glittering lights and opulent decor? They're funded by pathetic souls like you. As for those "make money from gambling" articles, well, good luck with that. It's almost as if casinos wrote them themselves as bait.  Wink Wink

But hey, dreams are free, right? Keep dreaming, and maybe one day, you'll be the exception (or not).

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September 17, 2023, 09:35:18 PM
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It is true that we must be able to take responsibility for all the actions we have taken and this includes the gambling activities we are currently carrying out. And I am quite aware that doing this is very difficult. Gambling can make us forget and blind to everything. Sometimes, when someone is addicted to gambling, it is not uncommon for them to spend all day gambling and continue to make deposits without paying attention to the amount they spend to be able to gamble.
And indeed, if we don't try to overcome the negative impacts of gambling ourselves, then who will? And I am sure that if we have a strong determination to manage our finances and time then we will be able to control the gambling activities we do.
It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

There's nothing that they can do because addiction already inside them, instead of thinking it over before entering they forget to analyze what are the bad side-effects when you got addicted to gambling, things that can be avoided only if you plan ahead of time and not when you already suffering or already engaging that deep into this activity.

We can't really avoid especially when we are too much busy thinking how we can make money out from this activity.

Most of the time, instead of having some fun, people think that they can easily make money from their gambling participation
and late to realize that they already lose a lot.

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It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

Right, we agree on this. It is very important to avoid any form of addiction at all costs. But in reality, this will involve all aspects of our lives. There are many addictions and causes, and not just gambling or things related to narcotics. In most cases it all starts from habit, and the habits we do become excessive and ultimately get out of control. as you said, when we realize that we fall into the addiction category, recovering requires effort accompanied by strong intention and determination. that is, if we are able to go through every temptation we face in recovery.

The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.

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