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July 03, 2023, 07:57:38 PM
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I was reading on some of the reasons why the USD is king in the foreign exchange market and some of them are;
It is the most traded currency,
It is the foreign reserve currency of many countries etc...

My question is that with the way many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD, will it cause a significant reduced trading volume that will make the dollar no longer to be the most relevant currency in the foreign exchange market?

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July 03, 2023, 08:36:50 PM
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In the last 10 years, US dollars in foreign reserves account for slightly more than 70% of the total foreign reserves, but down to 60% as of this year. In more decades ago, US dollar did not account for up to 60%.  The second reserve currency is Euro which accounts for 20%.


https://realeconomy.rsmus.com/why-the-dollar-remains-the-worlds-reserve-currency/


https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11707

Among the traded currencies, US dollars accounts for over 80%: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Most_traded_currencies

I do not think there is any currency that will compete with US dollars because it has huge margin if compared to others. The second is Euro and I do not think Euro can take the place of United States dollars with what are going in the world.

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July 03, 2023, 10:15:25 PM
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I do not think there is any currency that will compete with US dollars because it has huge margin if compared to others. The second is Euro and I do not think Euro can take the place of United States dollars with what are going in the world.

I would also agree with you, because aside the Euros the other currency that many think will overthrown the dollars is maybe the Chinese Yen. But even with the current crises facing dollars it still has the liquidity. And countries wouldn’t want to hold or reserve another central currency like the yen in exchange for dollars because the economic and worries that they fear with dollars is there with the yen too.

My observation is people will actually look to more decentralized currency, and a currency that can actually hedge against inflation so that there won’t be much of worry during economic downturn. So it could be the Gold because it is a great store of value and its limited supply is another advantage. Over few years now central banks are actually holding more Gold.

I only see it as an alternative for the main time and it can not be a central currency already or reserve

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July 03, 2023, 11:51:32 PM
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It doesn't happen overnight mate, but I have belief that with time the USD will lose its Kingship as more nations keep adopting other alternative currencies when holding trades between themselves. When you really look at the emergence of regional economies like BRICS which keep getting more popular each passing year, you kind of notice a loss of confidence in the US dollar and other forms of currencies from the West and this will be one of those game changing moments in the years to come.

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July 04, 2023, 02:46:35 AM
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My question is that with the way many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD, will it cause a significant reduced trading volume that will make the dollar no longer to be the most relevant currency in the foreign exchange market?
The world always changes so does world economics. The USA. can lose its first powerful position and leading role so when the nation loses its leading position, its fiat currency will lose its value in the world economics too.

Gold is no longer be considered as a world standard and gold standard is only a past story. I see big challenge from China for the USA. from science, economics to politics but the USA. has better social and political systems which give me a faith that they will be a better nation than China. China will still be a big competitor for the USA.

I think the US. dollar will not lose its leading position too soon.

You said "many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD", where is the source?

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July 04, 2023, 02:56:09 AM
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No one knows — but one thing's for sure, it will take a while for it to happen if it were to happen. And while it will likely be a major country(or BRICS) that would replace it(if it actually happens), let's just hope that it's BTC lol.

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July 04, 2023, 06:01:30 AM
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The  U.S. dollar remains the most actively traded currency, and its dominance has been relatively stable over the past decade.

While there has been a decline in the dollar's share of global foreign-exchange reserves, this doesn't necessarily indicate a significant reduction in trading volume.

If there will be any major changes, it's likely going to be gradual and influenced by multiple factors.
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No one knows — but one thing's for sure, it will take a while for it to happen if it were to happen. And while it will likely be a major country(or BRICS) that would replace it(if it actually happens), let's just hope that it's BTC lol.
It would be good if countries start to adopt bitcoin and be using it as a foreign reserve. But can this be possible? See how gold is, for decades or centuries, dollar still dominate the foreign reserves. Another thing is that you will see gold excluded and be separated because it is a commodity, categorizing only fiat. With how the government are doing, they are not ready to adopt bitcoin like gold yet, but this may chance overtime. As to what I think, the dollar will stay there for decades if not centuries

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July 04, 2023, 10:03:18 AM
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I was reading on some of the reasons why the USD is king in the foreign exchange market and some of them are;
It is the most traded currency,
It is the foreign reserve currency of many countries etc...

My question is that with the way many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD, will it cause a significant reduced trading volume that will make the dollar no longer to be the most relevant currency in the foreign exchange market?
Yup, and that's what will actually happen if most of them have already dumped it and they're transitioning into using another currency that they think is better than USD at these times. This is also one of the worries of the US government for which they're making a lot of things relatively to their economic policies and as well as being too active with foreign allies and putting more money into it things that shouldn't be funded by them. I guess this is where it's really going because no one's gonna be on top forever.

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July 04, 2023, 10:44:33 AM
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No one knows — but one thing's for sure, it will take a while for it to happen if it were to happen. And while it will likely be a major country(or BRICS) that would replace it(if it actually happens), let's just hope that it's BTC lol.
I hope that The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking will replace both Gold standard and USD standard.

Yup, and that's what will actually happen if most of them have already dumped it and they're transitioning into using another currency that they think is better than USD at these times. This is also one of the worries of the US government for which they're making a lot of things relatively to their economic policies and as well as being too active with foreign allies and putting more money into it things that shouldn't be funded by them. I guess this is where it's really going because no one's gonna be on top forever.
The USA maintains their position very well since World War II but the world will continue to change and they can lost that position. The rising growth of China in both economic, geopolitics and their aggressive policies globally are dangerous for the USA position and their fiat currency US dollar.

Will we have a new fiat currency standard without another World War? Hopefully no such World War in future but the US dollar will lose that standard position if something very big happens over the world.

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July 04, 2023, 10:52:02 AM
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My question is that with the way many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD, will it cause a significant reduced trading volume that will make the dollar no longer to be the most relevant currency in the foreign exchange market?
Not really cauwe we knew that US still the number 1 country when it comes to currency. Yes there may be significant downfall on their side, but knowing them? I doubt it. Id imagine that they could do anything that could boost their currency's value. This may be a long path but they will eventually bounce back everytime. You think China or Russia could surpass them? Maybe at somepoint but we also can see how competitive the USD it is.

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July 04, 2023, 11:19:20 AM
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I was reading on some of the reasons why the USD is king in the foreign exchange market and some of them are;
It is the most traded currency,
It is the foreign reserve currency of many countries etc...

My question is that with the way many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD, will it cause a significant reduced trading volume that will make the dollar no longer to be the most relevant currency in the foreign exchange market?

No just because other countries are dumping USD doesn't mean it'll stop been the king of foreign exchange. The numbers of country still reserving USD as their country's reserved currency is more than those that are dumping it. The United States is still the most powerful country in the world so they'll still stay at the top of all foreign exchange. If any country's currency wants to overtake them, they have to takeover world power from the united state.

For another currency to overtake USD, it has to be the most traded currency and many countries aren't comfortable trading other currency apart from USD as they believe in the US economy more than other countries economy that are been said to be the next reserved currency.

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No one knows — but one thing's for sure, it will take a while for it to happen if it were to happen. And while it will likely be a major country(or BRICS) that would replace it(if it actually happens), let's just hope that it's BTC lol.
I hope that The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking will replace both Gold standard and USD standard.

That's what we all want for Bitcoin but in reality it's going to be much more difficult because of a couple of reasons

- It will take a while for people to move from status-quo currencies to innovative ones like Bitcoin and cryptos. A lot of people don't like change. They're even afraid of change itself.

- It would take more time before Bitcoin can get the massive adoption we all desire and we are on the right track. We have to abstract complexity of the technology and significantly reduce transaction fees and finality to the barest minimum. A large percentage of people are unbanked, they need to be introduced to something more better.

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It doesn't happen overnight mate, but I have belief that with time the USD will lose its Kingship as more nations keep adopting other alternative currencies when holding trades between themselves. When you really look at the emergence of regional economies like BRICS which keep getting more popular each passing year, you kind of notice a loss of confidence in the US dollar and other forms of currencies from the West and this will be one of those game changing moments in the years to come.
Countries in BRICS might be growing their GPT (China being most important player). But they have long way to catch up. And there are most likely going to be tensions between those countries as that project would need to have full transparency on every level between participants when infra is designed for it.

And those countries aren't really famous for their transparency, neither they could provide stabile enough infrastructure for it IMHO.

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July 05, 2023, 11:00:54 AM
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No one knows — but one thing's for sure, it will take a while for it to happen if it were to happen. And while it will likely be a major country(or BRICS) that would replace it(if it actually happens), let's just hope that it's BTC lol.
I hope that The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking will replace both Gold standard and USD standard.
That's what we all want for Bitcoin but in reality it's going to be much more difficult because of a couple of reasons

- It will take a while for people to move from status-quo currencies to innovative ones like Bitcoin and cryptos. A lot of people don't like change. They're even afraid of change itself.

- It would take more time before Bitcoin can get the massive adoption we all desire and we are on the right track. We have to abstract complexity of the technology and significantly reduce transaction fees and finality to the barest minimum. A large percentage of people are unbanked, they need to be introduced to something more better.
It doesn't have to be "every" person, as long as we have enough movement behind us, that's enough. I know that fiat will stay as the strongest there is nothing wrong with that but that doesn't mean that it has to be the only one.

I believe that just like how we moved away from paying with cash and started paying with credit cards and such, and now moving towards NFC a lot as well, that means NFC could be used for crypto as well, and that means we could pay people with crypto very easily thanks to innovative technologies. I am not saying it will be simple, but it will certainly be not that hard as well. This is why it's important to keep believing in bitcoin, we may do well or we may not do that well at all, we just need to keep focusing on it.

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July 05, 2023, 06:43:18 PM
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Yup, and that's what will actually happen if most of them have already dumped it and they're transitioning into using another currency that they think is better than USD at these times. This is also one of the worries of the US government for which they're making a lot of things relatively to their economic policies and as well as being too active with foreign allies and putting more money into it things that shouldn't be funded by them. I guess this is where it's really going because no one's gonna be on top forever.
The USA maintains their position very well since World War II but the world will continue to change and they can lost that position. The rising growth of China in both economic, geopolitics and their aggressive policies globally are dangerous for the USA position and their fiat currency US dollar.

Will we have a new fiat currency standard without another World War? Hopefully no such World War in future but the US dollar will lose that standard position if something very big happens over the world.
It's just a matter of time until that happens. Even Trump said that before and he's aware of the position of the US towards global economic standards. That's why tension is rising and we're seeing the impact and reaction that US does and even its people are telling that they should focus on their own and not on other countries' welfare. Well, those that they're stepping on have an impact to them economically and that's why they're trying to touch other nation's welfare and politics too.

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July 05, 2023, 11:24:12 PM
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I was reading on some of the reasons why the USD is king in the foreign exchange market and some of them are;
It is the most traded currency,
It is the foreign reserve currency of many countries etc...

My question is that with the way many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD, will it cause a significant reduced trading volume that will make the dollar no longer to be the most relevant currency in the foreign exchange market?
You need to understand that this is a process, and as such it is not something that happens so quickly, it could take decades for the US dollar to lose its status as the reserve currency of the world, however it is definitely a process that is already underway as several powerful countries have expressed their dissatisfaction with the US and their monetary policy, however what we do not know is which currency will replace it, as a reserve currency of the world is one of the cornerstones of the current economic system.

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No one knows — but one thing's for sure, it will take a while for it to happen if it were to happen. And while it will likely be a major country(or BRICS) that would replace it(if it actually happens), let's just hope that it's BTC lol.
Bitcoin could surely be used as a currency for trade between nations, but it is not really suitable to be used as a reserve due to its volatility which can make any nation lose the great value of its national reserves if the price of Bitcoin falls all of a sudden, though it can also grow if it goes up it still wouldn't be an appropriate choice since both scenarios can go to any extent and it will have great impacts on the economy of that nation using Bitcoin as a reserve currency.

So Bitcoin wouldn't take the place of USD and become the global trading and reserve currency, if USD is to lose its throne and another currency is to take its place, it will probably be a currency from another powerful country with a great economy and its currency has a good value which doesn't fluctuate much.

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July 07, 2023, 07:10:00 AM
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My question is that with the way many powerful and influential countries are now dumping the USD, will it cause a significant reduced trading volume that will make the dollar no longer to be the most relevant currency in the foreign exchange market?
No, the US dollar is still the number one reserve currency, and it is difficult to think of an alternative to it. Countries are only trying to hedge by diversifying central reserves, but the US dollar will inevitably have a high rate of hedging, even China has reserves of more than a trillion dollars. alternatives to the US dollar will not be suitable to be a global reserve currency, as the Chinese yuan focuses on making its currency undervalued, and therefore countries will not use it as a reserve, and the rest of the currencies have a market capacity of less than half a trillion dollars.

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Economic growth and recession, the appearance of the USD in the financial system, I think it may be a few years before it shows its voice in all fields, the current context when some countries do not like the domination of the US, they have their own regulations to get rid of the USD power, as I have read before about petrodollar to maintain the influence of the USD in global energy with other countries Arab family. However, the rise of China and a more multipolar world than the BRICS countries are having their own economic moves, and the dollar's decline over time I think will soon be replaced.
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