[Boxing]: Oscar Valdez vs Emmanuel Navarette - Aug 12

[Kemarit]

I agree, Valdez looks amateur against Stevenson, and it just shows how good Shakur is at his level. But the did win a comeback again and won in the judges card. And so he is given a shot again his fellow Mexican Navarette who looks bad on the other hand and almost got knockout by an unknown fighter.

But I guess he has a big heart and believe in himself that he can make a bounce back after tasting the canvass in that fight. And won by a technical knockout over Liam in round 9. And for me this is a fight of the year candidate.

I'm sure it is, it's been a long time since we've seen a rivalry like that of Morales and Barrera, I hope the hype lived up to that they have the same style both aggressive and love to move forward, they don't care being hit as long as they can hit, but compared to Barrera - Morales who hate each other in their rivalry both fighters has respect to each other, let's see in their weigh in and the actual fight, if the fight is close and the two fighters do their things we can see a rematch.

This could be an explosive fight and either boxer would kiss the canvass if hit with those heavy bombs. This is one of the fights that is hard to predict who will win but I'm more inclined to back Oscar Valdez as I think he has more power of the two but we might see an upset here too because Navarrete has more experience than Valdez.



Bookies predicts that this fight would go the distance but i think otherwise.

Initially I thought that Valdez is like 1.5x favorite, but it seems that the odds has moved a lot as we get closer to the fight. I haven't put my bet yet, but if this fight favors Oscar as per bookies then most likely it will be the case that he will win.

And for those bettors, this odd is still big, as they are willing to like bet in the thousands of dollars, so still it's going to be a big win for them.

But for us, this is not the case, and so it's better to look for options here.

[Baofeng]

^ The latest odds for Valdez is indeed 1.58.



Perhaps what was shown was the early released of the odds and that's why it seems that Valdez is a big favorite. Nevertheless Navarette backers is trying to close the gap weeks before the fight.

And it's good that we have a lot options now, like the exact rounds. But I would wait for the round range as our chances to win is good, unless you wanted to target the huge odds for exact rounds, but it's going to be very difficult to predict.

[Casdinyard]

Valdez has proven time and time again why he is a capable fighter, some even say he's the next to step into Pacquiao's path which is a lot for a boxer that hasn't had anything going for him until recently. Not discrediting Navarette here and I know he's going to give us a good fight but I believe that Oscar could win this by a massive upset and a massive knock-out. He's been methodical in his every play and he's able to get back up his feet and defeat his opponent without question numerous times even before that massive victory prior to this fight. Navarette has done the same but I just felt like Oscar's got this in the bag despite the odds not being in his favor. We'll just have to see how this fight goes when it all resolves I guess. But oscar's getting this W no doubt.

[Dave1]

Valdez has proven time and time again why he is a capable fighter, some even say he's the next to step into Pacquiao's path which is a lot for a boxer that hasn't had anything going for him until recently.

If there is a boxer than can follow Manny Pacquiao, I think it could be Inoue. And even Manny has given Inoue his blessings as they met in Japan.

Not discrediting Navarette here and I know he's going to give us a good fight but I believe that Oscar could win this by a massive upset and a massive knock-out. He's been methodical in his every play and he's able to get back up his feet and defeat his opponent without question numerous times even before that massive victory prior to this fight. Navarette has done the same but I just felt like Oscar's got this in the bag despite the odds not being in his favor. We'll just have to see how this fight goes when it all resolves I guess. But oscar's getting this W no doubt.

If Valdez win, then it's not called a upset mate, he is the favorite in this fight. But the odds makers are putting this fight to go distance. So meaning there might be knockdown/s along the way, but there will be no knockout. But I'm not discounting that perhaps Oscar will used his left hook as his weapons to knockout Navarette as Emmanuel doesn't believed in defense and will just try to bully his opponents.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Valdez has proven time and time again why he is a capable fighter, some even say he's the next to step into Pacquiao's path which is a lot for a boxer that hasn't had anything going for him until recently. Not discrediting Navarette here and I know he's going to give us a good fight but I believe that Oscar could win this by a massive upset and a massive knock-out. He's been methodical in his every play and he's able to get back up his feet and defeat his opponent without question numerous times even before that massive victory prior to this fight. Navarette has done the same but I just felt like Oscar's got this in the bag despite the odds not being in his favor. We'll just have to see how this fight goes when it all resolves I guess. But oscar's getting this W no doubt.

I'm so sorry but Valdez and Pacquiao should not be in the same sentence. Their path are not even comparable.

So going back to the fight, both have their strengths, I love the style of Navarette of going all out in an offensive manner and he has his stamina build in this kind of fights. On Valdez side, he is more of a technical but can switch to a brawler if he wanted to, just like in the Berchelt fight.

Valdez can adjust for sure, but I think Navarette will stay on his style of brawler and be on the offense every time.

[Baofeng]

As per the voting,



Seems that the members are looking for a upset win here? Although the votes are just a small sample size, it was 7 votes on who will win this fight. And surprisingly, the odds maker is putting Valdez as the favorite, but here in our community, Navarette getting the most votes, by KO and by Decision.

[Ziskinberg]

As per the voting,



Seems that the members are looking for a upset win here? Although the votes are just a small sample size, it was 7 votes on who will win this fight. And surprisingly, the odds maker is putting Valdez as the favorite, but here in our community, Navarette getting the most votes, by KO and by Decision.

Upset for better odds. 

Well, I'm always on Valdez because he is an all-out boxer. He is not afraid to go toe to toe, and the style of Navarette is very suitable for him. Shakur is just exceptional because he is very dominant with his style, but these two, they are very well matched. I just like to bet on the boxer that I believe is more reliable.

The majority of us here wants an upset, but that might change as the fight is approaching. It will happen in less than a week, so let's wait patiently and don't get too excited without putting a bet on your favorite fighter. KO outcome also has better odds. I think less than 6 rounds offer a very attractive one.

[yazher]

As per the voting,



Seems that the members are looking for a upset win here? Although the votes are just a small sample size, it was 7 votes on who will win this fight. And surprisingly, the odds maker is putting Valdez as the favorite, but here in our community, Navarette getting the most votes, by KO and by Decision.

Maybe because of his last performance and he showed great skills and strategy no wonder he won that fight. Now his facing one of the great boxer in their weight division and being the underdog will surely gives him motivation to train more and secure a win on this one. I'm also rooting for him to win this and I think it will be by K.O.

[Kemarit]

As per the voting,



Seems that the members are looking for a upset win here? Although the votes are just a small sample size, it was 7 votes on who will win this fight. And surprisingly, the odds maker is putting Valdez as the favorite, but here in our community, Navarette getting the most votes, by KO and by Decision.

Maybe because of his last performance and he showed great skills and strategy no wonder he won that fight. Now his facing one of the great boxer in their weight division and being the underdog will surely gives him motivation to train more and secure a win on this one. I'm also rooting for him to win this and I think it will be by K.O.

Did you know that Navarette went down against his last opponent, he almost got knockout by Liam. So I'm not sure why everyone is rooting for Navarette, maybe we just wanted to see a war and members think that Navarette has the stamina to go and last for full 12 rounds, have his volume punching and then maybe win by decision. But I think Oscar Valdez is too smart to fall for that if Navarette chooses to go all out war. Oscar will used his technical skills to offset or stop Navarette in this track if he becomes aggressive early. But we will see who will outlast this war as we all know that Mexicans fight is a non stop action pack boxing.

[Viscore]

As per the voting,



Seems that the members are looking for a upset win here? Although the votes are just a small sample size, it was 7 votes on who will win this fight. And surprisingly, the odds maker is putting Valdez as the favorite, but here in our community, Navarette getting the most votes, by KO and by Decision.

Maybe because of his last performance and he showed great skills and strategy no wonder he won that fight. Now his facing one of the great boxer in their weight division and being the underdog will surely gives him motivation to train more and secure a win on this one. I'm also rooting for him to win this and I think it will be by K.O.

Did you know that Navarette went down against his last opponent, he almost got knockout by Liam. So I'm not sure why everyone is rooting for Navarette, maybe we just wanted to see a war and members think that Navarette has the stamina to go and last for full 12 rounds, have his volume punching and then maybe win by decision. But I think Oscar Valdez is too smart to fall for that if Navarette chooses to go all out war. Oscar will used his technical skills to offset or stop Navarette in this track if he becomes aggressive early. But we will see who will outlast this war as we all know that Mexicans fight is a non stop action pack boxing.

Not everyone, it's only the majority of the posters who voted on the poll, choose Navarrete to win, and that's their personal opinion. Well, based on paper, Valdez is the better boxer here, but if you believe in an upset, then betting on Navarrete is not a bad decision. Regardless of the outcome of this fight, I'm sure that we are going to see an entertaining fight since Valdez would not allow it to be a boring one. He would always go for an impressive win, so he will try to win by KO.

If you believe in Valdez to win, might as well bet on him winning by KO. As per the present odds, it's very attractive at +440.



https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41651269-Navarrete-Emanuel-vs-Valdez-Oscar

[Yaunfitda]

^^ Very good odds still, either way for gamblers. Of course, we want a good odds and so there could be underdog bettors who will be on the side of Navarette.

And speaking of Valdez, I saw him throwing a pitch in the Arizona Diamond Bucks game if I'm not mistaken. So they have embraced Oscar Valdez and for sure they are going to cheer for him to win.

I also read that Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera too will be in attendance to watch this great Mexican war. As they themselves has one storied rivalries during their primes.

[bisdak40]

If you believe in Valdez to win, might as well bet on him winning by KO. As per the present odds, it's very attractive at +440.

Already did but the odds is a little bit lower on our local bookies but doesn't matter to me because that 4.80 odds is still a very juicy odds considering that Valdez has a higher chance to win by knockout. Just wonder though why bookies have speculated that this will go the distance even though Navarette was almost KOed in his last fight.

[Baofeng]

If you believe in Valdez to win, might as well bet on him winning by KO. As per the present odds, it's very attractive at +440.

Already did but the odds is a little bit lower on our local bookies but doesn't matter to me because that 4.80 odds is still a very juicy odds considering that Valdez has a higher chance to win by knockout. Just wonder though why bookies have speculated that this will go the distance even though Navarette was almost KOed in his last fight.

Nice, this is a juicy odds mate, I haven't put my bet but I might tail you on this one and most likely I will go and bet to our local bookies as well.

And with Valdez being the technical boxer and as you have said, Navarette was almost KOed in his last fight by Liam who doesn't have the tools like Oscar did. And I think Oscar has the power even if he is the smaller boxer here. Hype is slowly building up in this fight and yeah, even Navarette says that this could be a fight of the year candidate because of the styles of this two fighters.

[Kemarit]

If you believe in Valdez to win, might as well bet on him winning by KO. As per the present odds, it's very attractive at +440.

Already did but the odds is a little bit lower on our local bookies but doesn't matter to me because that 4.80 odds is still a very juicy odds considering that Valdez has a higher chance to win by knockout. Just wonder though why bookies have speculated that this will go the distance even though Navarette was almost KOed in his last fight.

He might have overlook his match against Liam that's why he was almost knockout in that fight. Perhaps he think that he can just go and smothered him. But Liam was strong in the early rounds and scored a knockdown and thought that it was over and there was an upset.

But Navarette comes back strong after that knockdown and sort of wake up. And then Liam started to fade why Navarette continue with this volume punching and has the reach advantage.

[Yaunfitda]

If you believe in Valdez to win, might as well bet on him winning by KO. As per the present odds, it's very attractive at +440.

Already did but the odds is a little bit lower on our local bookies but doesn't matter to me because that 4.80 odds is still a very juicy odds considering that Valdez has a higher chance to win by knockout. Just wonder though why bookies have speculated that this will go the distance even though Navarette was almost KOed in his last fight.

Will look at the under 10.5 rounds, still good odds at 2.76 at my favorite sports bookies. So at least whoever will win and it will be under that rounds, I have a better chance to get that win.

Nevertheless, since Valdez is the favorite so most likely he will have to score that knockout or stoppage in this fight. Not sure though if Navarette is known to bled very easy as if this is the case, then maybe the referee will have to look closely and stop it before 10 rounds. So best of luck to us.

[Baofeng]

Here's the video of their face-off, you can see that they are being back up by no less than Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4EilByol2w

So everyone is expecting that this is going to be as exciting as the fight of those 2 Mexican boxers. Although I don't see Navarette having a good defense as compare to Barrera and Morales who are two technical boxers that why there style is really great and they produces one of the best trilogy in the history of boxing.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

It's high anticipated fight as we have said, and that's why they have the great Mexican legends to boost the promotion of this fight.

But if this ends on a knockout, then I highly doubt that there could be a rematch or even a trilogy, like what MAB and Morales did on their rivalries. And the odds still favors Valdez as he is the skilled one in this fight as Navarette defense is his offense. Although we will see if he can cover it with hit relentless attack and volume punching.

[inthelongrun]

Wow! I just noticed that there is a specific thread for this bout. This one is a fight-of-the-year match-up, no wonder some people are calling them to deliver a fight like what Barrera-Morales and Vasquez-Marquez did in the past.

I agree with the odds favoring Oscar Valdez as he is already accustomed to this division while Navarette is only making his second appearance. Navarette also showed that he is already beatable unlike when he was campaigning at 122 and 126. Valdez is also the more technical fighter so this may look like Valdez vs Berchelt.

But I am voting based on who I'd like to win. I got Navarette stopping Valdez. I believe we haven't seen yet what this new champion can do in this division. He had a bad night in his last fight so he will enter this fight better. I believe he is the stronger guy so he will be the aggressor here. And I'm pretty sure they already know what happened to Miguel Berchelt against Valdez so Navarette will be a little smart with his aggression here and will finally catch Valdez in the mid to late rounds.

[bisdak40]

But I am voting based on who I'd like to win. I got Navarette stopping Valdez. I believe we haven't seen yet what this new champion can do in this division. He had a bad night in his last fight so he will enter this fight better. I believe he is the stronger guy so he will be the aggressor here. And I'm pretty sure they already know what happened to Miguel Berchelt against Valdez so Navarette will be a little smart with his aggression here and will finally catch Valdez in the mid to late rounds.

Wow, i like your prediction brother, opposite to what i have in my mind. I have Valdez to win by knockout here because no matter what Navarette will do to avoid those bombs, somewhere in the late rounds he will be tired and Valdez will hit him hard and KOed him but i like what you said that Navarette will be a little smarter here to avoid the fate that Berchelt have suffered but i don't think Navarette could hide the full twelve rounds or it may be the other way around, let's see. 

[Sanitough]

But I am voting based on who I'd like to win. I got Navarette stopping Valdez. I believe we haven't seen yet what this new champion can do in this division. He had a bad night in his last fight so he will enter this fight better. I believe he is the stronger guy so he will be the aggressor here. And I'm pretty sure they already know what happened to Miguel Berchelt against Valdez so Navarette will be a little smart with his aggression here and will finally catch Valdez in the mid to late rounds.

Wow, i like your prediction brother, opposite to what i have in my mind. I have Valdez to win by knockout here because no matter what Navarette will do to avoid those bombs, somewhere in the late rounds he will be tired and Valdez will hit him hard and KOed him but i like what you said that Navarette will be a little smarter here to avoid the fate that Berchelt have suffered but i don't think Navarette could hide the full twelve rounds or it may be the other way around, let's see. 

It's good that the predictions are very well divided, based on the current result of the poll.

Valdez by KO   - 4 (30.8%)
Navarette by KO   - 5 (38.5%)

Navarette is leading by 1 vote. I want to focus on the discussion about the potential knockout (KO) outcome, as both fighters are prepared to deliver an entertaining fight. Either Navarette or Valdez could be knocked out; we never know as they are evenly matched in my opinion. Although it's evident that Valdez is the favorite in the betting odds, these two are warriors in the ring, making it difficult to predict.