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Question: Who wins the rematch?
A. Anthony Joshua KO/TKO
B. Anthony Joshua Decision
C. Dillian Whyte KO/TKO
D. Dillian Whyte Decision
E. Draw

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July 20, 2023, 02:43:46 PM
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However, I won't underestimate Joshua's KO rate which should be a threat to white. Will definitely be exciting to watch.

Definitely, AJ has more KO wins than Dillian Whyte, but the latter has more overall wins compared to AJ. It's just that AJ is more popular than Dillian Whyte, so it's understandable why the majority of the fans believe AJ will win.

As for their KO records from BoxRec, Dillian Whyte is 19/29, while AJ is 22/25, so it's very obvious that AJ has an edge.

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July 20, 2023, 03:47:15 PM
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However, I won't underestimate Joshua's KO rate which should be a threat to white. Will definitely be exciting to watch.

Definitely, AJ has more KO wins than Dillian Whyte, but the latter has more overall wins compared to AJ. It's just that AJ is more popular than Dillian Whyte, so it's understandable why the majority of the fans believe AJ will win.

As for their KO records from BoxRec, Dillian Whyte is 19/29, while AJ is 22/25, so it's very obvious that AJ has an edge.

They have gone to a lot after their first meeting, Joshua back then was so great and on top of the world he commanded respect and people thought he was invincible until that 3 losses, those losses exposed him, and because of this Dillian Whyte will take this opportunity to put all these demons in Joshua mind, Whyte knows that Joshua wants this fight and he is here to spoil everything, he knows that Joshua will try to put up a great fight so he can challenge Fury and Wilder for a big fight.

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July 21, 2023, 06:53:25 PM
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They have gone to a lot after their first meeting, Joshua back then was so great and on top of the world he commanded respect and people thought he was invincible until that 3 losses, those losses exposed him, and because of this Dillian Whyte will take this opportunity to put all these demons in Joshua mind, Whyte knows that Joshua wants this fight and he is here to spoil everything, he knows that Joshua will try to put up a great fight so he can challenge Fury and Wilder for a big fight.
Anthony Joshua is really in a good shape and frame of mind ahead of this fight, the fact that he has a new trainer is really helping him into the right shape and frame of mind for the fight. Anthony may not be able to be his best like we saw in his prime, but he can fight better than he did in his last three fights. And for the same reasons that he knows how important this fight is, he will take it seriously and not give Dillian any chance to stop him from his target of getting through to the next fight against Fury.

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July 21, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
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They have gone to a lot after their first meeting, Joshua back then was so great and on top of the world he commanded respect and people thought he was invincible until that 3 losses, those losses exposed him, and because of this Dillian Whyte will take this opportunity to put all these demons in Joshua mind, Whyte knows that Joshua wants this fight and he is here to spoil everything, he knows that Joshua will try to put up a great fight so he can challenge Fury and Wilder for a big fight.
Anthony Joshua is really in a good shape and frame of mind ahead of this fight, the fact that he has a new trainer is really helping him into the right shape and frame of mind for the fight. Anthony may not be able to be his best like we saw in his prime, but he can fight better than he did in his last three fights. And for the same reasons that he knows how important this fight is, he will take it seriously and not give Dillian any chance to stop him from his target of getting through to the next fight against Fury.

That's always been the case for Joshua after his first lost to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he get the services of American trainer Robert Garcia, but still, he failed to win against Usyk and he had a break down after the fight.

So this is very important for him, although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it's going to be more mental for Joshua here rather than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.

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July 22, 2023, 09:27:35 AM
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They have gone to a lot after their first meeting, Joshua back then was so great and on top of the world he commanded respect and people thought he was invincible until that 3 losses, those losses exposed him, and because of this Dillian Whyte will take this opportunity to put all these demons in Joshua mind, Whyte knows that Joshua wants this fight and he is here to spoil everything, he knows that Joshua will try to put up a great fight so he can challenge Fury and Wilder for a big fight.
Anthony Joshua is really in a good shape and frame of mind ahead of this fight, the fact that he has a new trainer is really helping him into the right shape and frame of mind for the fight. Anthony may not be able to be his best like we saw in his prime, but he can fight better than he did in his last three fights. And for the same reasons that he knows how important this fight is, he will take it seriously and not give Dillian any chance to stop him from his target of getting through to the next fight against Fury.

That's always been the case for Joshua after his first lost to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he get the services of American trainer Robert Garcia, but still, he failed to win against Usyk and he had a break down after the fight.

So this is very important for him, although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it's going to be more mental for Joshua here rather than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.

It's his own self who is going to be his enemy if he hasn't moved on yet from his defeats in big fights. Unlike Whyte, who isn't too popular, so he doesn't have much to lose. This fight is going to be a stepping stone for both boxers to make their names popular again. The winner here might be given an opportunity to slowly climb the ladder until that championship fight comes again.

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July 23, 2023, 02:50:38 PM
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That's always been the case for Joshua after his first loss to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he had a breakdown after the fight.

So this is very important for him, Although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it will be more mental for Joshua here than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.
The breakdown is so hard to see for Joshua's fans and camps but it is what it was it's a hard climb for Joshua but he is very prone to a breakdown he easily gives out when faced with a good adversary we first saw this in the Ruiz Jr fight he spits his mouthpiece and failed to answer when asked if he wants to continue after getting a knockdown, and on Usyk fight he became passive when Usyk was attacking him, I'm sure we will see a little bit of that trace when Whyte shows no respect to him in their coming match.

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July 23, 2023, 08:57:38 PM
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That's always been the case for Joshua after his first loss to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he had a breakdown after the fight.

So this is very important for him, Although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it will be more mental for Joshua here than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.
The breakdown is so hard to see for Joshua's fans and camps but it is what it was it's a hard climb for Joshua but he is very prone to a breakdown he easily gives out when faced with a good adversary we first saw this in the Ruiz Jr fight he spits his mouthpiece and failed to answer when asked if he wants to continue after getting a knockdown, and on Usyk fight he became passive when Usyk was attacking him, I'm sure we will see a little bit of that trace when Whyte shows no respect to him in their coming match.

True, but against Whyte who he has been beaten already and perhaps already decline as he is not that active, maybe the camp of AJ thinks that he is a good boxer to have a tune up fight.

But I do agree, he has been exposed as having a weak mentality that when he face a superior boxer, he doesn't know what to do. When he thought that he can beat Ruiz Jr in the first time, suddenly it as a game changer for him. Because after that, AJ become a different boxer and started to be cautious in the beginning and no longer the aggressive boxer that once he was. As if he is afraid to exchange with his opponents.
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Ryan Garcia posted a picture of him, Anthony Joshua, Errol Spence, and their coach. Anthony Joshua seems happy and this is important for him to regain his confidence. Not sure if undisputed 154 champion Jermell Charlo started his training yet but it would've added more motivation for AJ to train harder. And there's also 3-belt holder Errol Spence grinding hard for his undisputed fight against Bud Crawford. A win for Spence this coming weekend would surely make AJ more empowered. But a loss, especially if Bud will clearly dominate the fight would make AJ think about Jamal's effectiveness and questions himself if he is training the right way.

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July 26, 2023, 01:54:39 PM
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That's always been the case for Joshua after his first loss to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he had a breakdown after the fight.

So this is very important for him, Although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it will be more mental for Joshua here than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.
The breakdown is so hard to see for Joshua's fans and camps but it is what it was it's a hard climb for Joshua but he is very prone to a breakdown he easily gives out when faced with a good adversary we first saw this in the Ruiz Jr fight he spits his mouthpiece and failed to answer when asked if he wants to continue after getting a knockdown, and on Usyk fight he became passive when Usyk was attacking him, I'm sure we will see a little bit of that trace when Whyte shows no respect to him in their coming match.

True, but against Whyte who he has been beaten already and perhaps already decline as he is not that active, maybe the camp of AJ thinks that he is a good boxer to have a tune up fight.

But I do agree, he has been exposed as having a weak mentality that when he face a superior boxer, he doesn't know what to do. When he thought that he can beat Ruiz Jr in the first time, suddenly it as a game changer for him. Because after that, AJ become a different boxer and started to be cautious in the beginning and no longer the aggressive boxer that once he was. As if he is afraid to exchange with his opponents.

AJ better change his mindset; he should not view it as just a tune-up fight but consider it a big challenge, so he can give his best. AJ isn't the same boxer as he was, and every opponent he faces will believe they can beat him, especially after his defeat. AJ still has more fights to come, and what he needs to ensure is that he starts winning and shows consistency. Although he isn't a champion now, who knows, he may get a chance to face Fury in the future.

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July 26, 2023, 10:46:59 PM
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. AJ still has more fights to come, and what he needs to ensure is that he starts winning and shows consistency. Although he isn't a champion now, who knows, he may get a chance to face Fury in the future.

Yes he is still young and he is still ok but a boxer is only as good as his last fight two championship losses are not good and a climb to the top again is not easy and if you are faced with losses while climbing to the top, then you are on your way out.

Whyte is his ticket to the top again but I doubt if he can regain his old glory, Usyk is doing great Fury and Wilder are also doing great, he needs to finish his business and that is to fight Fury and Wilder, beat them both and all his past failures will vanish and he will leave a great legacy, but the biggest question is can he do it.

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. AJ still has more fights to come, and what he needs to ensure is that he starts winning and shows consistency. Although he isn't a champion now, who knows, he may get a chance to face Fury in the future.

Yes he is still young and he is still ok but a boxer is only as good as his last fight two championship losses are not good and a climb to the top again is not easy and if you are faced with losses while climbing to the top, then you are on your way out.

Whyte is his ticket to the top again but I doubt if he can regain his old glory, Usyk is doing great Fury and Wilder are also doing great, he needs to finish his business and that is to fight Fury and Wilder, beat them both and all his past failures will vanish and he will leave a great legacy, but the biggest question is can he do it.

Old glory is nothing but memories. Well it is a good thing that Whyte still is being celebrated for his potential, but 35 is not really all that young to be considered "full of potential" anymore. Especially in boxing, a sport in which the retirement age starts at 36-39. At his age he should have already shown his peak techniques as well as peak body vitality. So there is a chance that things will play out fine for Whyte in his future fights, but I think he will not be making much progress, judging from the comparison of his past fights, that chance seems low.

Although who knows, I have been pleasantly surprised before...

AJ is not someone who is going to have an easy time either but he is clearly the top contender. And he has a couple of good years to go on.


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. AJ still has more fights to come, and what he needs to ensure is that he starts winning and shows consistency. Although he isn't a champion now, who knows, he may get a chance to face Fury in the future.

Yes he is still young and he is still ok but a boxer is only as good as his last fight two championship losses are not good and a climb to the top again is not easy and if you are faced with losses while climbing to the top, then you are on your way out.

Very well said, in his last 2 fights, he was against a tough opponent in Usyk, world class technical boxer and as much as Joshua wanted to win and he has a big heart, Usyk has the tools and mentality to over come him as well.

Whyte is his ticket to the top again but I doubt if he can regain his old glory, Usyk is doing great Fury and Wilder are also doing great, he needs to finish his business and that is to fight Fury and Wilder, beat them both and all his past failures will vanish and he will leave a great legacy, but the biggest question is can he do it.

Maybe bring back his confidence to win or even score a knockout against a old Dillian Whyte. But he still needs to be very careful from that one shot that might change the fight in favor of Dillian. So he shouldn't be overconfident and not to estimate Whyte here. And so if he wins, definitely, he can regain some of his pride. But against a top tier fighter in Fury or Wilder, it could be very different fight for Joshua.
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That's always been the case for Joshua after his first loss to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he had a breakdown after the fight.

So this is very important for him, Although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it will be more mental for Joshua here than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.
The breakdown is so hard to see for Joshua's fans and camps but it is what it was it's a hard climb for Joshua but he is very prone to a breakdown he easily gives out when faced with a good adversary we first saw this in the Ruiz Jr fight he spits his mouthpiece and failed to answer when asked if he wants to continue after getting a knockdown, and on Usyk fight he became passive when Usyk was attacking him, I'm sure we will see a little bit of that trace when Whyte shows no respect to him in their coming match.

It's all in the mind now for AJ if he see flashes of the Ruiz fight in his mind in this fight. And we will see how Derrick James can motivate him in this fight. As @inthelongrun, he is training with a lot of great boxers as well. So hopefully, he will be extra motivated to train very hard in the same gym, sweating it out with the likes of Ryan Garcia and Errol Spence Jr.

So it's a mental game going forward for AJ, he should go back to his old style. And not be hesitant and let his hands go if needed. Because after the his first lost to Ruiz Jr., for sure majority of us has notice that AJ doesn't want to pull the trigger, and unsure without to punch 1-2 or just go chase the opponent in the ring without throwing any power punch.

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That's always been the case for Joshua after his first loss to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he had a breakdown after the fight.

So this is very important for him, Although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it will be more mental for Joshua here than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.
The breakdown is so hard to see for Joshua's fans and camps but it is what it was it's a hard climb for Joshua but he is very prone to a breakdown he easily gives out when faced with a good adversary we first saw this in the Ruiz Jr fight he spits his mouthpiece and failed to answer when asked if he wants to continue after getting a knockdown, and on Usyk fight he became passive when Usyk was attacking him, I'm sure we will see a little bit of that trace when Whyte shows no respect to him in their coming match.

It's all in the mind now for AJ if he see flashes of the Ruiz fight in his mind in this fight. And we will see how Derrick James can motivate him in this fight. As @inthelongrun, he is training with a lot of great boxers as well. So hopefully, he will be extra motivated to train very hard in the same gym, sweating it out with the likes of Ryan Garcia and Errol Spence Jr.

So it's a mental game going forward for AJ, he should go back to his old style. And not be hesitant and let his hands go if needed. Because after the his first lost to Ruiz Jr., for sure majority of us has notice that AJ doesn't want to pull the trigger, and unsure without to punch 1-2 or just go chase the opponent in the ring without throwing any power punch.

Definitely, that's the weakness I have seen in him now because he was once a champion, and now he has plenty of losses already. When the problem is mental, it's not hard to rise up from that since what your mind says, the body will follow. However, there's good news because AJ has won his previous fight, so maybe he has slowly recovered a bit from his losing experience. Now, he's facing a fighter he has beaten before, and I'm sure he knows how to do it again.

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July 28, 2023, 11:18:31 AM
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That's always been the case for Joshua after his first loss to Ruiz and Usyk. In the second Usyk fight, he had a breakdown after the fight.

So this is very important for him, Although he did get a new trainer, but still as the first round starts, it will be just him and Dillian Whyte. And it will be more mental for Joshua here than physical. He might be in the best shape of his life, but if his minds has started to doubt that he can win, then it won't help him here, IMHO.
The breakdown is so hard to see for Joshua's fans and camps but it is what it was it's a hard climb for Joshua but he is very prone to a breakdown he easily gives out when faced with a good adversary we first saw this in the Ruiz Jr fight he spits his mouthpiece and failed to answer when asked if he wants to continue after getting a knockdown, and on Usyk fight he became passive when Usyk was attacking him, I'm sure we will see a little bit of that trace when Whyte shows no respect to him in their coming match.

It's all in the mind now for AJ if he see flashes of the Ruiz fight in his mind in this fight. And we will see how Derrick James can motivate him in this fight. As @inthelongrun, he is training with a lot of great boxers as well. So hopefully, he will be extra motivated to train very hard in the same gym, sweating it out with the likes of Ryan Garcia and Errol Spence Jr.

So it's a mental game going forward for AJ, he should go back to his old style. And not be hesitant and let his hands go if needed. Because after the his first lost to Ruiz Jr., for sure majority of us has notice that AJ doesn't want to pull the trigger, and unsure without to punch 1-2 or just go chase the opponent in the ring without throwing any power punch.

Definitely, that's the weakness I have seen in him now because he was once a champion, and now he has plenty of losses already. When the problem is mental, it's not hard to rise up from that since what your mind says, the body will follow. However, there's good news because AJ has won his previous fight, so maybe he has slowly recovered a bit from his losing experience. Now, he's facing a fighter he has beaten before, and I'm sure he knows how to do it again.

I have a feeling that AJ goes for the offensive against Whyte right in the very first round. So it is either he hits Whyte and gets a stoppage or his offense will stop once Whyte starts to connect as well. Once Whyte will connect his own punches and AJ feels it hard, AJ's mindset will change and his confidence will go down and will shift into boxing trying to outbox Whyte. I do think Whyte will run out of gas and will slow down in the later rounds so AJ can take advantage either by knockout or by outboxing him.

On the other hand, Eddie Hearn opened up his 3-fight plan for AJ provided he keeps on winning.

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I have a feeling that AJ goes for the offensive against Whyte right in the very first round. So it is either he hits Whyte and gets a stoppage or his offense will stop once Whyte starts to connect as well. Once Whyte will connect his own punches and AJ feels it hard, AJ's mindset will change and his confidence will go down and will shift into boxing trying to outbox Whyte. I do think Whyte will run out of gas and will slow down in the later rounds so AJ can take advantage either by knockout or by outboxing him.

On the other hand, Eddie Hearn opened up his 3-fight plan for AJ provided he keeps on winning.


AJ has to be careful as he has been knocked down before, so he isn't as durable as he thought. Maybe he will have huge confidence since this is a rematch, and he has already beaten Whyte before, so he has already won the mind game. As long as he follows the game plan well, I'm sure he'll have an edge in winning this fight. It's not necessary to KO Whyte; what's more important is that he wins impressively, as a positive outcome of this fight could open up another championship opportunity for him.

If he could surpass Whyte, I doubt he could pass the next level which is against Wilder.

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^^ Yes, I think it's a good plan money wise for Eddie and Joshua as well. Having to fight Dillian Whyte here, bring back Joshua mind and his confidence and then look for Wilder which we have been waiting for many years, when they were still has no defeats in their record and when the Gypsy King is not yet making a comeback. But everything has change now, Fury comes back, takes all the glory beat Wilder and then Joshua losing to Ruiz and it's the start of his being reluctant to pull the trigger. But at least he can still make a lot of money and maybe this 3 HW's can smell the Saudi money, LOL. Perhaps we are talking here about minimum $50M-$100M waiting for them if they all make a fight in Saudi whether as undercard or facing each other. (Fury vs Usyk, Wilder vs Joshua in same card).

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I have a feeling that AJ goes for the offensive against Whyte right in the very first round. So it is either he hits Whyte and gets a stoppage or his offense will stop once Whyte starts to connect as well. Once Whyte will connect his own punches and AJ feels it hard, AJ's mindset will change and his confidence will go down and will shift into boxing trying to outbox Whyte. I do think Whyte will run out of gas and will slow down in the later rounds so AJ can take advantage either by knockout or by outboxing him.

On the other hand, Eddie Hearn opened up his 3-fight plan for AJ provided he keeps on winning.


AJ has to be careful as he has been knocked down before, so he isn't as durable as he thought. Maybe he will have huge confidence since this is a rematch, and he has already beaten Whyte before, so he has already won the mind game. As long as he follows the game plan well, I'm sure he'll have an edge in winning this fight. It's not necessary to KO Whyte; what's more important is that he wins impressively, as a positive outcome of this fight could open up another championship opportunity for him.

If he could surpass Whyte, I doubt he could pass the next level which is against Wilder.

AJ's confidence will be boosted by a lot of Spence wins this weekend over Crawford but I also think he will lose some of his confidence if his stablemate losses a beatdown. Still, he should be able to overcome Whyte who's slower and is known to fatigue in the late rounds.

I have a feeling that Wilder might be in the same mental situation as AJ. In Wilder's last fight, he was backing down and was the one getting hunted which means he was scared of getting KO'd again. Heleneus is old and slow and was countered but I can imagine if it was someone quicker and mobile, Wilder might get sparked if he can't land first. Nonetheless, that win might also bring back much of Wilder's confidence.

^^ Yes, I think it's a good plan money wise for Eddie and Joshua as well. Having to fight Dillian Whyte here, bring back Joshua mind and his confidence and then look for Wilder which we have been waiting for many years, when they were still has no defeats in their record and when the Gypsy King is not yet making a comeback. But everything has change now, Fury comes back, takes all the glory beat Wilder and then Joshua losing to Ruiz and it's the start of his being reluctant to pull the trigger. But at least he can still make a lot of money and maybe this 3 HW's can smell the Saudi money, LOL. Perhaps we are talking here about minimum $50M-$100M waiting for them if they all make a fight in Saudi whether as undercard or facing each other. (Fury vs Usyk, Wilder vs Joshua in same card).

That would've been a huge super fight between undefeated champions for the undisputed championship. But Wilder later admitted that he chickened out even if the offer from Matchroom and DAZN was already so huge and there's also the rematch clause which happens in the US if the first match happens in the UK. Wilder is always known to duck fighters and was even holding the undisputed championship hostage many times because his team was unwilling to unify with former lineal 3-belt champion Wladimir Klitschko citing the Bronze Bomber is not yet ready for the Ukrainian.

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July 29, 2023, 01:12:40 PM
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^^ Yes, I think it's a good plan money wise for Eddie and Joshua as well. Having to fight Dillian Whyte here, bring back Joshua mind and his confidence and then look for Wilder which we have been waiting for many years, when they were still has no defeats in their record and when the Gypsy King is not yet making a comeback. But everything has change now, Fury comes back, takes all the glory beat Wilder and then Joshua losing to Ruiz and it's the start of his being reluctant to pull the trigger. But at least he can still make a lot of money and maybe this 3 HW's can smell the Saudi money, LOL. Perhaps we are talking here about minimum $50M-$100M waiting for them if they all make a fight in Saudi whether as undercard or facing each other. (Fury vs Usyk, Wilder vs Joshua in same card).
That would have been a great treat for the fans. This country is really willing to spend a lot of money just to bring in good fighters. All these fighters were champions; I mean AJ and Wilder were previous champs before they lost to Usyk and Fury, respectively. However, since they are still active until now, that gives us a chance to witness the fight that we have been hoping for.

Usyk vs Fury is a good championship fight, but Fury has the edge here. I'm predicting he'll be listed as the heavy favorite. On the other hand, Wilder vs AJ should be a close contest, but I'm seeing Wilder being set up as a slight favorite by the bookies.

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^^ Yes, I think it's a good plan money wise for Eddie and Joshua as well. Having to fight Dillian Whyte here, bring back Joshua mind and his confidence and then look for Wilder which we have been waiting for many years, when they were still has no defeats in their record and when the Gypsy King is not yet making a comeback. But everything has change now, Fury comes back, takes all the glory beat Wilder and then Joshua losing to Ruiz and it's the start of his being reluctant to pull the trigger. But at least he can still make a lot of money and maybe this 3 HW's can smell the Saudi money, LOL. Perhaps we are talking here about minimum $50M-$100M waiting for them if they all make a fight in Saudi whether as undercard or facing each other. (Fury vs Usyk, Wilder vs Joshua in same card).
That would have been a great treat for the fans. This country is really willing to spend a lot of money just to bring in good fighters. All these fighters were champions; I mean AJ and Wilder were previous champs before they lost to Usyk and Fury, respectively. However, since they are still active until now, that gives us a chance to witness the fight that we have been hoping for.

Usyk vs Fury is a good championship fight, but Fury has the edge here. I'm predicting he'll be listed as the heavy favorite. On the other hand, Wilder vs AJ should be a close contest, but I'm seeing Wilder being set up as a slight favorite by the bookies.

I read that Eddie Hearn wanted to put that fight in Saudi Arabia and they are willing to pay for that fight whatever the cost it.

So Joshua really need this one badly if he wants to continue with his career, or at least get a good pay check next, whether Wilder or Fury for all British Showdown. So everything hangs on this fight. And if by chance he is upset by Whyte, not sure how he can bounce back and he might say good bye to that $100 million that Eddie Hearn might be whispering in his ears.

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