Boxing: Anthony Joshua vs Robert Helenius (replacement)

[inthelongrun]

So now that Jamal James' best fighter was badly outclassed and was battered from pillar to post, I am pretty sure it has some mental effects on Anthony Joshua who is battling the mental effects of his previous defeats. He might start to doubt James' game plan and effectiveness. Luckily for him, he is facing a fighter whom he had already beaten by stoppage and is known to fatigue in the late rounds. After Spence's failed aggressive strategy by getting countered a lot, I won't be surprised if AJ will stick to his boxing skills and will only become aggressive if Whyte is getting hurt or gassed out in the late rounds.

[Hypnosis00]

I read that Eddie Hearn wanted to put that fight in Saudi Arabia and they are willing to pay for that fight whatever the cost it.

So Joshua really need this one badly if he wants to continue with his career, or at least get a good pay check next, whether Wilder or Fury for all British Showdown. So everything hangs on this fight. And if by chance he is upset by Whyte, not sure how he can bounce back and he might say good bye to that $100 million that Eddie Hearn might be whispering in his ears.

There are lots of wealthy people in Saudi Arabia, so they can afford to make that fight happen in their country. Just imagine how much AJ would make, even though he is considered the underdog in the fight. Winning the fight would open better opportunities for him. Usyk vs Fury is an anticipated fight, but it doesn't have the same buzz as Fury vs Wilder, or maybe Wilder vs AJ. Personally, I believe Fury will be able to dominate the fight due to his length and height advantage, but it will be exciting to watch if there's going to be a KO.

So, here's the scenario: If Fury beats Usyk and AJ beats Wilder, then the possibility of AJ vs Fury happening would be high.

[hilariousandco]

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12934115/anthony-joshua-fight-with-dillian-whyte-cancelled-after-anti-doping-test-of-whyte-returns-adverse-findings

The fight is off now due to a failed drug test by Whyte  .

[inthelongrun]

So this fight is called off after Dillian Whyte's samples went positive according to VADA. Rumors are that Matchroom is looking for a replacement to face AJ in the main event. We'll see if they can find someone willing to face AJ in a week's notice.

The main supporting bout in this event is a battle between undefeated heavyweights, the IBF mandatory Filip Hrgovic, and Demsey McKean. Maybe AJ should take McKean but it could be too risky. I have zero belief that AJ takes Hrgovic. The Croatian deserves a title fight in years already and he will butcher AJ if given the chance as Whyte's replacement.

[Shamm]

I read that Eddie Hearn wanted to put that fight in Saudi Arabia and they are willing to pay for that fight whatever the cost it.

So Joshua really need this one badly if he wants to continue with his career, or at least get a good pay check next, whether Wilder or Fury for all British Showdown. So everything hangs on this fight. And if by chance he is upset by Whyte, not sure how he can bounce back and he might say good bye to that $100 million that Eddie Hearn might be whispering in his ears.

There are lots of wealthy people in Saudi Arabia, so they can afford to make that fight happen in their country. Just imagine how much AJ would make, even though he is considered the underdog in the fight. Winning the fight would open better opportunities for him. Usyk vs Fury is an anticipated fight, but it doesn't have the same buzz as Fury vs Wilder, or maybe Wilder vs AJ. Personally, I believe Fury will be able to dominate the fight due to his length and height advantage, but it will be exciting to watch if there's going to be a KO.

So, here's the scenario: If Fury beats Usyk and AJ beats Wilder, then the possibility of AJ vs Fury happening would be high.

Like what you said above before the fight is AJ vs Furry they need to win their respective matchup first as we all know how hard their opponent is, like this one WILDER is one of the great boxer do AJ must do his best to win against wilder as we all know if that will happen then it will lead AJ to become a champion and have a chance to play the winner of USYk vs furry. But one thing for sure furry can dominate usyk.

[eaLiTy]

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The fight is off now due to a failed drug test by Whyte  .

This is a bummer, Anthony Joshua wanted this fight to happen because he wanted to reboot his confidence and what more than an opponent he once defeated but i was expecting Dillian Whyte to land some heavy shots and surprise Anthony Joshua in the rematch and may even become even with one each.

It is highly unlikely the rematch will take place again after the failed drug test, Anthony Joshua will be looking to fight Deontay Wilder which could be another blockbuster fight they can make.

[Kemarit]

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The fight is off now due to a failed drug test by Whyte  .

This is a bummer, Anthony Joshua wanted this fight to happen because he wanted to reboot his confidence and what more than an opponent he once defeated but i was expecting Dillian Whyte to land some heavy shots and surprise Anthony Joshua in the rematch and may even become even with one each.

Oh well, everyone was thinking that this could be just a walk in the park for Joshua and win and bring back his confidence. And just like the case of others before him, he pleaded not guilty, but we will see what will be the outcome, for sure they are going to look at his B sample.

If we have to recall back, Conor Benn failed a drug test too when he was supposedly to face Chris Eubank Jr. But was cleared later

But it's too late for Dillian Whyte here, the best thing for Matchroom is to find a replacement ASAP.

[Rruchi man]

So this fight is called off after Dillian Whyte's samples went positive according to VADA. Rumors are that Matchroom is looking for a replacement to face AJ in the main event. We'll see if they can find someone willing to face AJ in a week's notice.

It is a huge disappointment to many of us who have looked forward to expecting to see AJ go against Dillian again for the third time.

This is a really bad record for Dillian Whyte that will create a stereotype, he will most likely end up with a ban after the investigation has been carried out and he is found guilty, the ban may span a number of years.

Dillian claims to be innocent -

“I can confirm without a shadow of doubt that I have not taken the reported substance, in this camp or at any point in my life. I am completely innocent and ask to be given the time to go through the process of proving this without anybody jumping to conclusions or a trial by media.”

source

We will know more in a couple of days as more findings come to light.

[TravelMug]

And it was reported, that it will be Chisora that will replaced Whyte in this fight?

Not confirmed yet, but they need to find someone to replace the disgrace Dillian Whyte. And another British legend, David Haye said that Chisora called him about a week ago and says that Whyte is going to fail the drug test.

So let's see if this is going to be official or not.

[btc_angela]

And it was reported, that it will be Chisora that will replaced Whyte in this fight?

Not confirmed yet, but they need to find someone to replace the disgrace Dillian Whyte. And another British legend, David Haye said that Chisora called him about a week ago and says that Whyte is going to fail the drug test.

So let's see if this is going to be official or not.

I will put a grain of salt on that statement from David Haye. If Chisora is the replacement, then so be it. But we don't want to hear like Del Boy really knows and see what the future will be. Perhaps he just want to keep in shape and you know, if there is an opportunity like this, then he could grab it right away.

And Chisora will be tailor fight for Joshua, age 39 and coming from a brutal beating in the hands of Tyson Fury.

As for the positive results on Dillian Whyte, if my memory serves me right, this is not the first time that he was caught with illegal substance.

[aioc]

And it was reported, that it will be Chisora that will replaced Whyte in this fight?

Not confirmed yet, but they need to find someone to replace the disgrace Dillian Whyte. And another British legend, David Haye said that Chisora called him about a week ago and says that Whyte is going to fail the drug test.

So let's see if this is going to be official or not.

It's now official Whyte is out and Joshua and DAZN need to find a replacement if Joshua wants to push for the date of the fight.

Matchroom Boxing announced Saturday morning that Whyte was removed from the heavyweight sequel after a random drug test as contracted through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) “returned adverse analytical findings as part of a random anti-doping protocol.

“In light of this news, the fight will be cancelled, and a full investigation will be conducted.”

Chisora for me is not a good replacement the guy is done it's going to be easy work for Joshua, why not proceed with the Wilder fight and make it a winner-take-all fight, whoever losses should retire, both fighters want a way up and both are highly motivated to remain on top, this is a money-making fight after all they are the hottest item 4 years ago.

[Viscore]

Chisora for me is not a good replacement the guy is done it's going to be easy work for Joshua, why not proceed with the Wilder fight and make it a winner-take-all fight, whoever losses should retire, both fighters want a way up and both are highly motivated to remain on top, this is a money-making fight after all they are the hottest item 4 years ago.

I agree with your comment; cancel the fight and proceed to Wilder. Fans don't want to get robbed for the money they are paying, so promoters should provide a fight that is worth watching. I read before that Wilder vs AJ is the undercard for Fury vs Usyk. Maybe they just have to wait for the moment to happen. Right now, they have to finalize the contract and just start training. I'm sure the fight is going to happen within this year, right?

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Chisora for me is not a good replacement the guy is done it's going to be easy work for Joshua, why not proceed with the Wilder fight and make it a winner-take-all fight, whoever losses should retire, both fighters want a way up and both are highly motivated to remain on top, this is a money-making fight after all they are the hottest item 4 years ago.

I agree with your comment; cancel the fight and proceed to Wilder. Fans don't want to get robbed for the money they are paying, so promoters should provide a fight that is worth watching. I read before that Wilder vs AJ is the undercard for Fury vs Usyk. Maybe they just have to wait for the moment to happen. Right now, they have to finalize the contract and just start training. I'm sure the fight is going to happen within this year, right?

Perhaps what they are thinking is just bringing the confidence inside of Joshua first before fighting Wilder. He needs a tune up fight and that is supposedly White. Well if AJ can beat Chisora easy then why have that fight?

Getting into Wilder after losing back to back to Usyk is going to be suicide for AJ in my opinion. And that's why he needs some cherry pick fight first before going up against Wilder. And Wilder himself has a supposedly scheduled fight against Andy Ruiz but not sure if that fight is going to happen.

[coin-investor]

Chisora for me is not a good replacement the guy is done it's going to be easy work for Joshua, why not proceed with the Wilder fight and make it a winner-take-all fight, whoever losses should retire, both fighters want a way up and both are highly motivated to remain on top, this is a money-making fight after all they are the hottest item 4 years ago.

I agree with your comment; cancel the fight and proceed to Wilder. Fans don't want to get robbed for the money they are paying, so promoters should provide a fight that is worth watching. I read before that Wilder vs AJ is the undercard for Fury vs Usyk. Maybe they just have to wait for the moment to happen. Right now, they have to finalize the contract and just start training. I'm sure the fight is going to happen within this year, right?

Hearns wants Joshua to have good momentum 2 losses in a row are not good, and his win against Franklin is not enough to get his confidence back, Dillian Whyte can offer a good challenge Wilder is a very dangerous opponent, his last fight ended up with a big knock out against Robert Helenius.
I'm okay with Joshua picking up a new fighter before going against Wilder but I don't like Chisora, Chisora will not offer a challenge to Joshua, how about an up-and-coming fighter with good potential like Jared Anderson.

[Jawhead999]

Chisora for me is not a good replacement the guy is done it's going to be easy work for Joshua, why not proceed with the Wilder fight and make it a winner-take-all fight, whoever losses should retire, both fighters want a way up and both are highly motivated to remain on top, this is a money-making fight after all they are the hottest item 4 years ago.

Both of Joshua and Wilder will risk his career, I don't think both of them want to fight each other within short time preparation. If Chisora is replacing Whyte, then we can expect an easy KO by Joshua since Chisora is keep losing when he reach 36 years old.

Maybe after this fight, we will see Joshua will fight with a strong boxer like Wilder or Fury.

[inthelongrun]

So this fight is called off after Dillian Whyte's samples went positive according to VADA. Rumors are that Matchroom is looking for a replacement to face AJ in the main event. We'll see if they can find someone willing to face AJ in a week's notice.

It is a huge disappointment to many of us who have looked forward to expecting to see AJ go against Dillian again for the third time.

This is a really bad record for Dillian Whyte that will create a stereotype, he will most likely end up with a ban after the investigation has been carried out and he is found guilty, the ban may span a number of years.

Dillian claims to be innocent -

“I can confirm without a shadow of doubt that I have not taken the reported substance, in this camp or at any point in my life. I am completely innocent and ask to be given the time to go through the process of proving this without anybody jumping to conclusions or a trial by media.”

source

We will know more in a couple of days as more findings come to light.

Some years ago I heard rumors of Dillian Whyte not being clean. Whyte is a fighter who fatigues in the late rounds, this is probably the main reason why his team is trying to put something in his body to address his biggest flaw. A suspension will surely happen, but we'll see how long it will be. Whyte is not young anymore and he might bid goodbye to his dreams of getting a title fight.

The 3 possible replacements mentioned in the article seem too risky for AJ even if Wallin and Bakole are not training for real fights. I'm confident El Animal would destroy AJ left and right. This guy is being avoided like a plague by the big names for years already. Too bad he is getting his shot against Usyk, but still 50/50 IMO. Meanwhile, rumors are that the other fighters in the undercards are the ones targeted by AJ. Grandpas Derrick Chisora and Gerald Washington are the main possible replacements. I don't know what takes them long to announce it. DAZN and Matchroom are probably worried that these grandpas would make the PPV event fail but at the same time worried that their cash cow might lose if they are to replace someone decent.

[inthelongrun]

Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'

AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same. 

[Hypnosis00]

Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'

AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same. 

Looking at his record, I can say that he has been in many battles already. However, the fact that he got KO'd by Wilder makes me think that he is not a worthy opponent of AJ, and that AJ could easily beat him. Probably, he will again experience a KO loss. Imagine if my prediction were to happen, then both AJ and Wilder would have KO'd this guy, whom they are going to face as an undercard in the Fury vs Usyk fight. I'm now thrilled.

[Sanitough]

Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'

AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same. 

Looking at his record, I can say that he has been in many battles already. However, the fact that he got KO'd by Wilder makes me think that he is not a worthy opponent of AJ, and that AJ could easily beat him. Probably, he will again experience a KO loss. Imagine if my prediction were to happen, then both AJ and Wilder would have KO'd this guy, whom they are going to face as an undercard in the Fury vs Usyk fight. I'm now thrilled.

I'm more concerned about his age; he is already 39 years old and not very active, as he only has one fight every year according to his record (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/451505). However, I hope AJ would not underestimate his opponent, as that might spoil his upcoming big fight with Wilder. We don't want to see a scenario like the Andy Ruiz vs AJ first fight, where AJ was KO'd.

For those who are curious with the betting odds, here it is.

Betting Odds (Betway Sports)
1/6 Joshua
9/1 Helenius
20/1 Draw

https://www.britishboxingnews.co.uk/blogs/anthony-joshua-vs-robert-helenius-fight-details-time-date-tv-channel-undercard-venue-running-order-betting-odds-predictions-ring-walks-and-live-stream-info
 

[coin-investor]

Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'

AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same. 

I thought Helenius already retired after getting knocked out by Wilder, I doubt he is a good replacement but on the other hand, AJ will have a hard time because he is preparing against Whyte, and all of a sudden he is facing a new opponent, and he doesn't have enough time to adjust, we will see how tough AJ has become after his two losses against Usyk, if he is really a great boxer he can do adjustment in just a short period of time.

Anyway between Helenius and Whyte, Whyte is a better fighter but he still has to be cautious about what Robert Helenius is going to bring.