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July 07, 2023, 11:42:22 AM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.

In vertical farming, Plants are grown in stacked layers under controlled conditions like green house farming.
In vertical farming,
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Ensures Consistent Crop Production
One of the biggest benefits of vertical arming lies in the fact that it is extremely reliable. That means, when you opt for vertical farming, you can be assured of getting consistent crop production throughout the year. This is further made possible because vertical farming doesn’t usually rely on the weather, allowing you to cultivate crops without having to get worked up about adverse weather conditions.
Uses Space Optimally
Reduces Usage of Water
One of the biggest perks of vertical farming lies in the fact that it follows a Hydroponic growing process whereby only 10% of the water is used. This mode of farming also uses fewer fertilizers and nutrients when compared to conventional methods. Since the water is completely clean even after usage, it can be duly reused thereby reducing the total cost and cutting down on waste.
Cuts Down on Transport Cost
You can always choose to grow crops in an area where your customer lives thereby reducing transportation costs, carbon dioxide emissions, and the constant need for refrigerating your produce. At the end of the day, this not only contributes to the freshness of your products but also makes them incredibly profitable.
Doesn’t Involve Chemicals or Pesticides
When you grow food on a vertical farm, you have the chance of completely cutting down on the need to invest in pesticides. That is because your farming is practiced in a controlled environment that prohibits the entry of pests.
Limits Occupational Hazards
With indoor farming in place, no farmer is exposed to the hazards associated with using heavy farming gear. They are also well-protected from a range of ailments like malaria, issues from harmful chemicals, and the likes of it.Since this mode of farming does not affect trees and animals around inland zones, it is also an excellent way to promote biodiversity.
Larger Produce
Probably the biggest benefit of vertical farming is the fact that it helps produce more crops in general. As we already know, this mode of farming enables cultivars to produce crops consistently in a small area. Interestingly, it also boosts the amount of produce.
What do you think about Vertical Farming, do you agree that it is the future of farming really?

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July 07, 2023, 11:53:35 AM
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There’s still a lot of lands available on other country while highly urbanized country can always import agricultural goods from other country that focus on this as main source of product. Vertical is indeed very popular on highly urbanized area but most of them is just using the goods for their own consumption and not for market distribution.

Maybe in the future this will become popular and a must but right now there’s still a lot of country especially 3rd world country that farming crops for export purposes. Rich country can pay for the export fees since they are getting huge income from taxes of people job on highly urbanized areas. It’s a give and take.

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July 07, 2023, 12:08:06 PM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.
There are two places to live in anywhere in the world. Either you live in Rural area or you live in Urban area. Now when someone was living in the rural area and moved down to Urban settlement then the place he or she was living at the rural area became vacancy, so occupying one place gives room to open another place. So that of the rural settlement space can be use has farming.
I don't know of other countries, in my locality, there are enough lands to farm but nobody to farm. Specifically, my paternal home town is a ghost town now because urbanization has taken over 99% of the people. So lands full there to farm.

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July 07, 2023, 12:34:35 PM
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Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.

Land agricultural practice is being effectively utilized through the introduction of vertical agricultural farming practice whereby you can make farming right within the enclosed and confined region regardless of how little it was and still arrived a maximum yield production of an open extended field farming, vertical agriculture brigs about improved varieties of farm produce in a close door intensive management practice, free from environmental factors that could lead to low yield or performance, it's an advanced screen house agricultural practice on a large scale without the use of soil, this same practice can be done in the modern cities and developed areas.

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July 07, 2023, 01:25:01 PM
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Vertical farming can be done in a place that lacks land but not in a rural area. There are still enough land in my country and government has their own farms which they use to feed the nation even though it isn't enough. Majority of people living in the rural area uses farming ad their major occupation,and the plant on lands. There are a lot of abandoned land in my territory in different places that is just there without people using them for farming. I don't see that the time coming so soon that there will be no more land available for farming. The third world country is underdeveloped and there are bushes everywhere. Even in a second world country people are still farming on lands.

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July 07, 2023, 01:27:00 PM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.

In vertical farming, Plants are grown in stacked layers under controlled conditions like green house farming.
In vertical farming,

If this scenario will continuously occur and farming sector will be eliminated in the scene most provably a country who do that will suffer from scarcity since they might struggle to find food in future especially when global population increase. So before anything bad or worse to happen government on agricultural countries should maximize their assets to increase their yearly yields since this could save their country to huge crisis in future also they might be the more progressive country since agricultural products might create more bigger demands.

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July 07, 2023, 01:57:56 PM
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Very innovative your idea. There are several possible things that need to be addressed, the first is to make this method usable by traditional farming communities. the second is that there is a high initial cost constraint where the community's ability is lacking in that regard. I think that if this program is to continue, many parties must be involved for a better agricultural future. Fore water can be tough.

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July 07, 2023, 02:42:02 PM
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Increasingly, more and more land is made into buildings, I do not deny it, it is a fact that occurs due to the factor of increasing human population every year, vertical agriculture is certainly a solution to deal with this problem, but yes it will certainly take up a lot of waste from this agricultural practice As it is today, which on average requires plastic tools in its implementation to make it easier and cheaper, but I don't mind that.

There’s still a lot of lands available on other country while highly urbanized country can always import agricultural goods from other country that focus on this as main source of product. Vertical is indeed very popular on highly urbanized area but most of them is just using the goods for their own consumption and not for market distribution.

Maybe in the future this will become popular and a must but right now there’s still a lot of country especially 3rd world country that farming crops for export purposes. Rich country can pay for the export fees since they are getting huge income from taxes of people job on highly urbanized areas. It’s a give and take.
If it includes a broader, it is certainly not good if you meet the needs of your country by only holding on to other countries, utamanaya the third state, it is a narrow thought in my opinion, because if you are too dependent on other countries in this case, your country will is under the influence of other countries and it is not good for the sovereignty of the state because it can be disturbed, over time the exact price of organic food commodities will increase because the narrower production land and demand more, the owner of the goods will ask for more payment, and your country will be very beaten if a significant price increase is implemented.

Like European Union that relies on nickel from Indonesia, then Indonesia is louder to manage it itself, and carry out an export stop policy that makes nickel prices rise, and the European Union can only report and report to the WTO.

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July 07, 2023, 02:44:09 PM
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You know, if I had a lot of money, I would buy a farm lot as an investment because we live on land, and it is used to grow fruits and vegetables. Having an investment farm or livestock is different than real estate that only builds houses.
It's different because you have a farm of vegetables, fruits, because it helps a large part of our health and this is the truth, that's why there are businessmen because they just want to make money and don't care if it affects the nature, which is not nice

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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.

When we talk about food produced in an organic way, then we have to start from the fact that such food is quite expensive than the one produced in a commercial way, and therefore it is something that most people in the world can not afford. The more people on the planet, the greater the need for food, and this means that those who promote genetically modified foods are taking up more space and offering more for less money - which combined with inflation means that fewer people are eating healthy food.

I think that vertical farms have potential, but that they are not in the interest of large producers who solve the problem with the lack of arable land with deforestation, which is obviously cheaper and faster than the construction of vertical farms.

The problem of healthy food is most pronounced in urban areas where most have no choice but to buy fruits, vegetables or meat in supermarkets, but this is the problem of today in much of the world where people have simply rejected self-sufficiency as one of the foundations of a sustainable society.

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I used to visit some greenhouse farming farms, and as the OP mentioned, I found that in the case I visited, it was simply a locality that was not suitable for farming such as farming rice, corn, potatoes, ... but mainly clean foods are green vegetables and fruits. I think the problem of agricultural diversion has not only just begun, but people have also seen the dangers of land shortage or climate change for future solutions, there are friends of mine right in the city. People in the city also have a sense of self-sufficiency about growing their own vegetables in their own homes, just a few cardboard boxes and providing them with enough water, light, fertilizer, ... they also have can partially solve the household food story.
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What do you think about Vertical Farming, do you agree that it is the future of farming really?
https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/advantages-disadvantages-vertical-farming.php

Let me tell you as a guy who lived at a farm, his whole family was in the farming business for a century, who still doeS the accounting for one, as clear as the sky is blue the author of that garbage has seen a farm only in pictures and maybe while playing Farmville on his phone.

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One of the biggest perks of vertical farming lies in the fact that it follows a Hydroponic growing process whereby only 10% of the water is used.

And instead, they use 10 times more energy for it, just this year despite with food prices going up:
Vertical farmer Kalera files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
Indoor farming operations face bankruptcies, layoffs, closures
AeroFarms Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Protection, CEO Steps Down
The vertical farming bubble is finally popping

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You can always choose to grow crops in an area where your customer lives thereby reducing transportation costs, carbon dioxide emissions, and the constant need for refrigerating your produce. At the end of the day, this not only contributes to the freshness of your products but also makes them incredibly profitable.

A 100km trip for a fully packed truck is about ~30l, that's one tractor round for one ha, usually, you will need 5 rounds for that including the harvesting, and you will be getting around 10 tons, so 1/4 of a truck. Besides, good luck with bananas in Bulgaria, with rice in Denmark and your Merlot will taste horrible in Pakistan or Nigeria.

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When you grow food on a vertical farm, you have the chance of completely cutting down on the need to invest in pesticides. That is because your farming is practiced in a controlled environment that prohibits the entry of pests.

And the controlled environment costs more than pesticides. But, who cares, right?
Obviously not the above-mentioned business that went bankrupt one after other!

Since this mode of farming does not affect trees and animals around inland zones, it is also an excellent way to promote biodiversity.

Yeah, because flattening the ground and pouring 10 feet of concrete foundation for all that weight, all the piping all the electricity needed will do wonders for biodiversity? The author just mentioned a closed environment and now we have biodiversity, LMAO!!!!!

But the most important thing that nearly every single one of those "authors" tend to forget
If there is no room for the farm in the city because, prices are high, do you think paying 10 000 euros per sqm to grow 50 kilos of tomatoes worth 100 euros is a viable business?

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July 07, 2023, 03:02:16 PM
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You have brought a topic that is important which is the future of farming and this is really the future of food production in the world. If people are going to keep feeding well and get nourished then farming should be taking serious. The unfortunate thing is like you have mentioned also is the land or space to farm. Really, development is taking over land space for agricultural activities.

Whether vertical farming or not, the government need to really take proactive measures to secure lands that will be meant for agricultural purposes and no interference of any capital projects, building of roads, bridges or other structures should not be done in such areas. Just like there is game reserves, the government should put land out and secure them for the purpose of agriculture.

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Vertical farming may be good but not applicable to every crop. I think vertical farming is good in areas or places where there's limited agricultural land so instead of importing crops from other places, they can produce their own products. However, the downside of this is that it can be too costly. Let's take an example of my country the Philippines, which has agriculture as the backbone and the main source of livelihood in our country. There are a lot of lands available here with a great population of farmers, plus the weather that allows us to produce various crops we can export to other countries. But the issue is, there's already a lack of financial support from the government to help our farmers. The farmers can't even buy their own supplies for their crops and they're already earning a small amount of money for their hard labor. Adapting to a vertical farming won't be a practical choice for them.

Vertical farming might be great for individuals who want to have their self-grown plants at home yet with limited land. Also for people in urban areas since it can also contribute to the environment, having a small farm in the city. Or countries with advanced technology or with great government support.
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For now, modern agrarian techniques are only applied by farmers who have narrow land. That's not yet the government's plan to deal with escalating settlements that don't really look threatening in their eyes.

I'm currently a bit involved in the farming business, but I don't have much idea to comment on this step towards modernizing agriculture. In my point of view, I do not agree with some of the advantages mentioned such as:

- Ensures Consistent Crop Production, this may reduce the quality of the crop.
- Reducing transportation costs, I think all agricultural needs from the first stage to sales will not be available in one place or let's say in as close a radius as possible. In my area, to be honest the cost of transportation is not much of a thought.

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I'm not sure and the information OP mentioned about its size and scope, but I've gone to some countries maybe their farming field still hasn't changed too much from the traditional one, in terms of scale. Planning land area is almost a price to pay for industrial development, but I see that aside from new modern equipment for farming, the productivity I have heard and seen is huge giant. As for the future story of some redevelopment experiment that produces productive varieties, I know it's been around for quite a while and is being studied every day, obviously we face a lot of dangers in the future. Life, food situation is always considered and considered in the top.
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Vertical farming can be done in a place that lacks land but not in a rural area. There are still enough land in my country and government has their own farms which they use to feed the nation even though it isn't enough. Majority of people living in the rural area uses farming ad their major occupation,and the plant on lands. There are a lot of abandoned land in my territory in different places that is just there without people using them for farming. I don't see that the time coming so soon that there will be no more land available for farming. The third world country is underdeveloped and there are bushes everywhere. Even in a second world country people are still farming on lands.
Some countries have abundant uncultivated lands because they have large land masses. Other countries are not that fortunate to have arable lands fit for large-scale farming. But I want to argue that vertical farming is not the future of agriculture. It might be effective in subsistence farming where food is grown for household consumption, but it can not feed a large number of people. Vertical farming requires some skill, and can also be expensive and difficult to manage. Not many farmers will be interested in this kind of farming.

I have always been an advocate of organic farming because it is healthy and maintain the natural soil texture, but I am afraid that the future of agriculture is now inorganic farming. With the effect of global warming, climate change, conflicts, and other problems I am afraid that the world will keep depending on genetically modified seeds for high harvest, syndetic pesticides, and chemicals to assist farmers produce more from limited farmlands.

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July 07, 2023, 04:30:00 PM
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You know, if I had a lot of money, I would buy a farm lot as an investment because we live on land, and it is used to grow fruits and vegetables. Having an investment farm or livestock is different than real estate that only builds houses.
It's different because you have a farm of vegetables, fruits, because it helps a large part of our health and this is the truth, that's why there are businessmen because they just want to make money and don't care if it affects the nature, which is not nice

Well real estate and farming or livestock is literally different investment. It's literally depends on your suitability or what you prefer since both needs maintenance and consistency. Farming is actually difficult if you don't have the knowledge in farming since it will be affected by the weather or the environment since we're talking about growing a living organism. If that's the case you can hire someone who's good at farming. And real estate could be the same but I think it's already a common investment for some people so they would be aware on how it works but still need some maintenance and fix the papers.

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July 07, 2023, 05:04:12 PM
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There are some conditions where in some big cities land seems to be something difficult but for some areas actually land can still be used for agriculture.
IMO the problem that may be faced in agriculture is that nowadays it is not about the condition of the land and whether it is still there or not but the difference in understanding between generations that may make this even more dangerous.
Nowadays, especially for generation Z, farming is sometimes seen as something that is very difficult to do because they don't want to have a lot of thoughts and want lighter work such as being in front of a PC every day or wearing a tie when working so when being a farmer will be seen as something trivial and this type of profession that young people don't really want.
Land is definitely a problem, but when there is no regeneration for farmers, it is also very dangerous because as time goes by, there will be fewer and fewer farmers.

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July 07, 2023, 05:09:07 PM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.
This is the importance of local government law regulations, which in some areas have imposed restrictions on development. For example, a certain company will set up a factory in an area with a potential plantation soil structure, so the rules may not exceed the set limit. Because then the agricultural area can still stand. The Agribusiness Council plays a role in implementing these regulations and has the authority to follow up if a company constructs a building outside the predetermined boundaries.

Especially now that the greening program is being stepped up again, both in urban and rural areas, which incidentally are now starting to shift. The coordination between the community and the local government to create regional stability.

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