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July 07, 2023, 10:09:36 PM
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I mainly use Bitcoin Core for sending and receiving Bitcoins.

Is it bad idea to use Bitcoin Core for the main wallet? I don't trust any online exchanges, that require my private keys.

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July 07, 2023, 10:20:58 PM
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Is it bad idea to use Bitcoin Core for the main wallet? I don't trust any online exchanges, that require my private keys.
Not at all.
With using bitcoin core, you have full control over your fund and as you run you own node, you can protect your privacy. You can also help the network with validating transactions.
But take note that even if you don't use bitcoin core, there are still many wallets that give you full control over your fund and you don't have to keep your bitcoin on exchanges.

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July 07, 2023, 10:33:29 PM
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Is it bad idea to use Bitcoin Core for the main wallet?

Not a bad idea but the security and protection of your wallet always depend on us how you protect your device from any attack or how secured your device is.

A device without protection and not secured is still vulnerable to any attacks unless you installed it on Ubuntu OS or run it offline.

Do you have a full node? On what OS you installed Bitcoin Core?

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July 07, 2023, 11:44:40 PM
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As your main wallet? With huge amount of bitcoin? If you can not run Bitcoin Core offline, do not use it as your main wallet. If you run it online, your wallet is vulnerable to malware.

Bitcoin Core is a privacy wallet, if using it with Tor.

If it is security, you need a cold wallet. For privacy, you need full node wallet like Bitcoin Core.

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July 08, 2023, 03:20:15 AM
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Other non-custodial wallets exist. I don't use Bitcoin Core as my 'main' wallet simply because of the bad UX. Take note that some non-custodial wallets allows connecting to your Bitcoin Core full node.

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July 08, 2023, 09:54:21 AM
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Thanks for answers together,

I have Bitcoin Core installed on Windows 11.

I mostly run it with a node, running internet.

And no, i don't have big amount of Bitcoins, but i prefer using Bitcoin Core, because its been popular wallet since 2010
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July 08, 2023, 11:33:10 AM
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I mainly use Bitcoin Core for sending and receiving Bitcoins.

Is it bad idea to use Bitcoin Core for the main wallet?


Not at all.  Bitcoin Core is the wallet which is  closely integrated with bitcoin node and the use of it is good for  your privacy as there is no need to communicate with third party servers to get wallet balance or send transaction, your node does those things  itself. Moreover, if you have 8333 port open your node extends a little bit the bandwidth of bitcoin network thus reducing the network latency.

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July 08, 2023, 02:05:15 PM
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It's no longer most popular wallet though since you need download 500GB+ of blockchain data. Although i expect it always get update as long as Bitcoin is alive.
For anyone wondering that may be unaware: Running the node pruned[1] is always an option though - it decreases the size of the blockchain considerably. The downside of this is that, as the name implies, you won't be holding a complete copy of the blockchain and you won't be able to scan older addresses.

[1]https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#configuration-tuning

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July 08, 2023, 08:54:03 PM
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I just want to add to what you have said  that although only the most recent blocks (the number of blocks dépend on the node'd configuration) wilm be stored on your hard drive when running a pruned node, you still need to download all the bocks from the genesis block till the most recent one when you run bitcoin core for the first time.

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July 11, 2023, 01:53:53 AM
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Thanks for answers together,

I have Bitcoin Core installed on Windows 11.

I mostly run it with a node, running internet.

And no, i don't have big amount of Bitcoins, but i prefer using Bitcoin Core, because its been popular wallet since 2010

If you wish then you can but its not really necessary and recommended when you don't have much amount or not really expect the utmost privacy. SPV wallets such as Electrum rely on trusted full nodes to verify transactions and only store block headers, transaction history, and the user's private keys.

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SPV wallets such as Electrum rely on trusted full nodes to verify transactions
There is nothing trusted about third party Electrum servers. Anyone at all can spin up a server and open it up to the public. It is almost certain that many such servers belong to blockchain analysis companies which are using them to link addresses together, link wallets to IP addresses, and de-anonymize users as much as possible. You have to trust the servers you connect to not to feed you incorrect data, but I wouldn't say the servers are "trusted".

The only really safe way to run Electrum is by connecting it to your own server attached to your own node.

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Bitcoin Core is a completely secure wallet that has all the required specifications, especially privacy, but its main problem is the large amount of space it needs on the device that you want to install it on.

Especially for some people with poor internet connection it will be difficult for them to download this huge amount of data, while there are many safe alternatives.

In any case, every wallet has advantages and disadvantages. Even hardware wallets, which are considered the most secure types of wallets, have recently been shown to have many disadvantages. Therefore, the Bitcoin wallet remains a personal choice and each person is responsible for choosing the wallet that best suits his needs.

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Bitcoin Core is a completely secure wallet
There is no such thing as a completely secure wallet. Some are more secure than others, but every wallet in existence (and indeed, every electronic device) has possible attack vectors.

I would also point out that Bitcoin Core is not a particularly secure wallet when used as a hot wallet. It is like any other hot wallet - it is only secure as the machine which is running it. If it is being ran on a machine which is used daily to browse the internet, download files, stream media, etc., then it is in a very risky environment and could easily be exposed to malware.

Running a node is necessary for the security of being able to independently verify all the blockchain data, but it is not sufficient to protect your coins. For any significant amount of coins then you ideally want them on an airgapped wallet, with a watch only wallet linked to your copy of Bitcoin Core.
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July 11, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
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I mainly use Bitcoin Core for sending and receiving Bitcoins.

Is it bad idea to use Bitcoin Core for the main wallet? I don't trust any online exchanges, that require my private keys.

Thanks,


bitcoin core is wallet created by Satosi, I think they more safe. But if you forget the password, you can't recovery it.

Only the initial versions of Bitcoin Core have Satoshi code in it. Since then, it has been completely rewritten multiple times, but there are always the PGP keys from the Bitcoin Core organization developers which can be used to verify the release downloads, and each release is built by multiple people to ensure there is no security bug or hidden malware inside it.

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July 11, 2023, 12:22:02 PM
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SPV wallets such as Electrum rely on trusted full nodes to verify transactions
There is nothing trusted about third-party Electrum servers. Anyone at all can spin up a server and open it up to the public. It is almost certain that many such servers belong to blockchain analysis companies which are using them to link addresses together, link wallets to IP addresses, and de-anonymize users as much as possible. You have to trust the servers you connect to not to feed you incorrect data, but I wouldn't say the servers are "trusted".

The only really safe way to run Electrum is by connecting it to your own server attached to your own node.



Connecting to such nodes may expose all our addresses to the server that we are connected in but that is why I said 'trusted' instead of 'safe and private'.  So it is suitable for anyone who stores a small amount of BTC but wants to have access to the keys . But for someone who seeks integrity for their data then their only choice is to connect their own node to their own server which pushes with no other option other than downloading entire blockchain data so they never have to rely on trusted/third party servers.

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July 11, 2023, 12:53:49 PM
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Other non-custodial wallets exist. I don't use Bitcoin Core as my 'main' wallet simply because of the bad UX. Take note that some non-custodial wallets allows connecting to your Bitcoin Core full node.
If not for the question Op asked I wouldn't know that bitcoin core also stores coins like non custodial wallets. I have thought that it is only for running nodes.
But if I were Op, I will take your recommendation by using some non custodial that can connect to my bitcoin core full node. I just feel bitcoin in the core if not taken good care of will lose be in the network

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July 11, 2023, 02:37:59 PM
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I mainly use Bitcoin Core for sending and receiving Bitcoins.
You have many other options if you don't use Bitcoin Core and you can check it there https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

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Is it bad idea to use Bitcoin Core for the main wallet?
It is good but with Bitcoin Core, you have two modes: full node and prune node.

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I don't trust any online exchanges, that require my private keys.
I don't understand.

Online centralized exchanges don't require your private keys because you don't own any private key. They own it and don't share private key with you. You are the person who might want to request centralized exchanges to share private keys.

More important, if a private key is known by 2+ parties, like you and exchange, it is no longer a private key! You can move your coin, exchange can move your coin, that private key no longer serves its core purposes.

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July 11, 2023, 09:11:58 PM
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But if I were Op, I will take your recommendation by using some non custodial that can connect to my bitcoin core full node. I just feel bitcoin in the core if not taken good care of will lose be in the network
What are you trying to say? You can’t lose Bitcoins “in the network”. Coins stored in Bitcoin Core can be as safe as those stored in any other non-custodial wallet, as long as.. they’re properly stored. That’s literally all you need to do, just keep them safe.
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I just feel bitcoin in the core if not taken good care of will lose be in the network
BTC stored in any wallet can be lost if the owner doesn't have good operational security, it doesn't matter if it is BTC core, Electrum, BlueWallet or any other wallet. Hot wallets can be hacked, so cold wallets are safer than hot wallets, but in either of them if your seed phrase is exposed, the funds would be lost. If you know how to store and use your funds in a safe enviroment, the chances of losing it is very low.

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If not for the question Op asked I wouldn't know that bitcoin core also stores coins like non custodial wallets. I have thought that it is only for running nodes.
I think you still misunderstand some things regarding how non-custodial wallet work or what a node is. Some people run their own nodes and use non-custodial wallets because they can verify the transaction themselves, or for privacy reasons. Running a node is not the opposite of offering a wallet functionality. CMIIW.

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