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July 09, 2023, 12:11:52 AM
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Government is against because of the people who run the biggest monopolies, when they join Crypto, government will join crypto. They are forcing government as of now to sell their stocks which they are holding. If no one buys them, how will they profit? And once they realize no ones gonna buy those shitty stocks, they will surely move into Crypto assets and promote them or get big organizations to adopt it so it pumps up their bag.
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July 09, 2023, 12:36:39 AM
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El Salvador is a leading example of government in the front run of Bitcoins adoption and when more countries' governments follow suit in the race, other ones will not want to be left behind, they too will join the queue.

Let's have a general discussion, what is your standpoint?



If you pay attention, you will notice that the institutions you are talking about are financial institutions, not one of which is government. If what you are talking about is that governments will accept bitcoin as a legal tender, then I believe that will never happen. Bitcoin may be legalized in all countries in the future, but making it legal tender globally is an impossible task.

El Salvador is a country without a primary currency, they use USD as their currency, and their economy is on the verge of bankruptcy, so bitcoin is seen as their gamble. As for the great powers, countries with developed economies, there is no reason to accept bitcoin as a currency.

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July 09, 2023, 12:53:18 AM
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The issue of countries adopting a specific thing is not difficult. All you need is for certain countries to succeed in taking any direction, for there to be a political motive and people’s satisfaction, and the government will find acceptance of the new situation, so when there was a high adoption of Bitcoin, several countries succeeded in accepting Bitcoin and benefited from it then. Acceptance of a particular government or all governments is a matter of time.

Personally, I do not expect that to happen soon, and perhaps we need to wait for at least 50 years, then this technology will have matured and become of high market value, and then there is no risk in adopting it. Meaning by 2060 it will be very possible.
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July 09, 2023, 01:08:03 AM
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Of course, yeah. What is a government, after all? For all intents and purposes, it is nothing but the leader or leaders that are in it. If Biden, for example, is against Bitcoin, it doesn't mean the US government will remain anti-Bitcoin forever. What if RFK Jr., a Bitcoin supporter, wins in the next election? The US government might change its stand and support Bitcoin.

The stand of the government is nothing but the stand of its leaders. My government was pro US and then it turned anti US and then pro US again. And that's because elections give us different leaders.

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July 09, 2023, 02:13:17 AM
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The panorama that shows the adoption of this asset currently in the world, allows us to think that sooner or later it will be involved by all the regions that exist on the planet, the advantages that bitcoin brings are incomparable, governments are clear about that, and for this reason some are already making the decision to incorporate them into their economy, the rest simply do not have the security yet to be able to deal with it, since bitcoin is a practically indomitable and decentralized currency, but they are used to having control over the assets that handle and about the people who handle said coins, contrary to what would happen if they accept it, it may be for this reason that it does not advance quickly. However...... I can assure you that the moment they agree and take a valid initiative that definitely addresses BTC, the world will enter an eloquent change...... a new era.
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July 09, 2023, 02:49:48 AM
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My perspective

Just as the future is uncertain and no one can predict the future, The government may seem aggressive today on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency adoption, and tomorrow change their stand due to high pressure and demands from their citizens to use a technology like Bitcoin in the coming years. If BlackRock CEO criticized Bitcoin in the past and later turns to embrace what he kicked against, the government may do so because the government is run by friends of these individuals or people who own these companies, and they may have influence When it comes to government matters.
El Salvador is a leading example of government in the front run of Bitcoins adoption and when more countries' governments follow suit in the race, other ones will not want to be left behind, they too will join the queue.

Let's have a general discussion, what is your standpoint?

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I think that in the long run most countries are just trying to jump off the USD train, I mean just the other day Ethiopia joined the application list for BRICs along with a bunch others where Ethiopia came from! Now apparently BRICs is planning to be pegged on a gold backed currency. Other countries like China are fully blown on CBDCs using social media apps and social credit systems for total dominant control. I like El Salvador's approach best tbh, going balls to the wall on Bitcoin.

We are really in the midst of a currency revolution, and from what I can tell its going to take quite a while to see any real change, but I think mostly that when we do we will see a pretty fast sweep from cash being king to CBDC+Cash to no cash and only CBDC, which might cause an uprising and "currency crisis" people will continue moving over to bitcoin gold and silver and other asset classes for some sort of relief. I think that trusted custodial solutions for crypto for the average joe is going to be crucial for its continued adoption. When you have companies like ledger giving crypto a bad name & people that don't really know how BTC works but want to get involved that could be a recipe for disaster for some people. Only time will tell what happens, but honestly thats just my two cents.  

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July 09, 2023, 03:12:21 AM
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Base on my observation, government is dynamic in nature base on the fact that different people with different view get elected into office. If a crypto enthusiasts finds it's way into any of the government office , such one can influence the government to accepting Bitcoin Adoption.  As time goes on and bitcoins become more popular among the elite and the common man, it has a greater chance of acceptance.
With that been said, it's acceptance will be heavily regulated to avoid scam and scam related issues.

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July 09, 2023, 03:16:26 AM
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Let's have a general discussion, what is your standpoint?


I remember years ago, most countries banned and had a negative view of bitcoin but years have passed, and now we can see they are slowly opening up to bitcoin and accepting it to a certain extent. Today, not too many countries ban bitcoin, but for bitcoin to become a replacement currency or payment method for fiat is highly unlikely. The government will not accept it because bitcoin will reduce their power because they have no control over bitcoin. The government will only accept anything as long as they can control it and benefit them.

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July 09, 2023, 03:20:46 AM
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Honestly, lately I have just been having a rethink of all this pushiness that the government should legalise Bitcoin, that Bitcoin should become a global currency, and all other things. We all know that the interest that the government has in Bitcoin would only be for their own self-benefits like collecting taxes for people who spend Bitcoin, monitoring the transactions of individuals using Bitcoin, and putting some rules and regulations in place for how you can spend your own decentralised Bitcoin. Huh

Who would be happy if the government decided to build their own centralised Bitcoin wallet and ask every Bitcoin user to create their Bitcoin wallet with that app to enable them (the government) to collect tax from every transaction carried out? Who would be happy about that? For example, if you send $20 worth of Bitcoin, will you be charged a $5 transaction fee instead of the normal $0.5–$1 fee?

Everybody in this world must not use Bitcoin (it's not a must), but even at that, with every passing day, I believe that somewhere in the world, there is always a new user coming on board.

We should be careful about what we desire so that, in the end, it will not affect our free use of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is for those who believe in its power (taking control of their finances) and freedom (no third party involved).

Anyway, that's just my opinion. Huh


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July 09, 2023, 03:34:43 AM
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That will automatically remove the fantasy of privacy in btc when the government eventually decided to support btc don't you think?

I mean which government in it's control nature will adopt a decentralized technology where they will lose the ability of control over it's citizens? They will most likely centralized it. And you know when that happens kyc is a must for you.

Control is one feature government can not lose, financial or otherwise because if they don't have it, I doubt that government can function properly. Government needs to keep it's citizens in check and control gives them that power.

So imo, it will be better the government stay away from btc adoption, they should stick to having their central bank digital currency. And the idea of accepting btc in businesses should be optional among the btc community.

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July 09, 2023, 04:41:15 AM
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With so many news where MicroStrategy start to buy Bitcoin, Pakistan and other country allow their citizen to use Bitcoin, El Salvador and Central African Republic accept Bitcoin as legal tender, and the latest is Blackrock accept Bitcoin as ETF, now you're still asking if government would change it's stand and adopt Bitcoin? I mean there were many proof and yet you still not convinced about Bitcoin adoption.

It's already 2023, it was not when each Bitcoin worth for $1,000.

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July 09, 2023, 05:31:02 AM
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With so many news where MicroStrategy start to buy Bitcoin, Pakistan and other country allow their citizen to use Bitcoin, El Salvador and Central African Republic accept Bitcoin as legal tender, and the latest is Blackrock accept Bitcoin as ETF, now you're still asking if government would change it's stand and adopt Bitcoin? I mean there were many proof and yet you still not convinced about Bitcoin adoption.

It's already 2023, it was not when each Bitcoin worth for $1,000.

I also have the same question because nowadays, there are not too many governments banning bitcoin, most of them already accept bitcoin. But I saw him mention accepting bitcoin as a legal tender of El Salvador, so I thought he was referring to accepting bitcoin as a payment method or currency, not a commodity. And if that's what the OP meant, then I really doubt it, I wouldn't believe other governments would do the same thing as the El Salvador government did. They will never allow bitcoin to become the world currency and replace the current fiat system.

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July 09, 2023, 05:52:10 AM
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The "government" consists a political parties(one or more), who rules until the end of their mandate and get replaced(in most cases).
The government accepting Bitcoin would mean that all political parties will have to accept Bitcoin. This is easier said than done.
I think that the governments around the world(especially the governments of the big countries) will keep pushing CBDCs, while trying to oppress Bitcoin/crypto in one way or another. People like the CEO of Blackrock or Jamie Dimon could shift their opinions like total hypocrites. One day they are Bitcoin supporters, the other day they start criticizing Bitcoin and spreading FUD. You can't trust such sociopaths.

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July 09, 2023, 06:20:13 AM
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The fact that the government represents what the people want means it's just a matter of having a politician that will give a listening ear to the people and why they need bitcoin legalized, and once this is done other countries will certainly want to emulate this and not miss out on the digital revolution.

Just like the text in the photo," Bitcoin doesn't change,  Bitcoin changes you " sounds just about right and this is what's happening.

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July 09, 2023, 07:41:36 AM
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Ohh think government will always stay negative when it comes to Bitcoin adoption. The issue is not with the government but it’s behind the tech it use which is decentralised. As the CEO mentioned it’s all about that dilemma where some people are using it genuinely while some of them are misusing the bitcoin for money laundering purposes. I don’t know to what extent this fact can be proven but that’s what making regulatory bodies like SEC to rethink about Bitcoins nature. Till date there is no solid stance whether Bitcoin is asset, commodity, security or something else. Unless and until there is no provision to define this we will never be sure about the Bitcoin being accepted by Government at all.
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July 09, 2023, 08:26:11 AM
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I don't believe that the government are out of Bitcoin investment already, but it's something they can never come out in the open to reveal to the world, maybe all the hate is also a big plan of shaking money off from people, with fear and panic, it's just a saying don't take it as a fact.

To the whole world, the government must hate crypto and Bitcoin most especially because it's centralized vs decentralization, even if one part of the government likes Bitcoin they have to pretend to hate it, look it's more beneficial to them because the world still follows the order from the government.

I won't be surprised if the government are pumping and dumping crypto and they are already in the game too, think about it very well, it's beneficial for those in power through manipulation, real manipulation is money making in crypto world.
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July 09, 2023, 12:16:20 PM
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Here is a post that drew my attention to writing this topic.
The biggest hedge fund manager, BlackRock sometime in 2017 criticized Bitcoin, and presently they have filed for Bitcoin ETF approval and gradually becoming a Bitcoin evangelist, not only BlackRock, other folks like Jamie Diamond, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, and Micheal Saylor the former CEO of MicroStrategy just to mention a few.

This is just a common human behavior, first they thought if they fight Bitcoin that it'll die but they have now seen that Bitcoin isn't dying instead it's producing new wealth and for them not to missed out they have to accept it inorder for them to be able to control it but that intentions of theirs will also fail since they won't be able to control Bitcoin. Bitcoin isn't centralized and they can't centralized it by seeking for approval of things like ETF.

This isn't a matter of at some point anymore because the government have already started giving Bitcoin attention. Laws & regulations are been drafted to tax bitcoin investors and traders and some exchange have been getting license to operate which weren't happening before.

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July 09, 2023, 01:19:22 PM
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Let's have a general discussion, what is your standpoint?

Well I've always known that government  will definitely  have a change on their perspective  for putting strict restrictions  to bitcoin,  I've heard of stories of government officials in a country like mine were cryptocurrency isn't accepted also having some huge fraction of bitcoin  in their possessions and since it is decentralized,  there wouldn't be any trace to them.
El Salvador  is an example of if you can't beat them join them but I've also had some conversations with some citizens and residents of El Salvador and it seems not all of them are ok to use bitcoin and it seems it was forced on them.
In my country,  we're  already seeing alot of youth's moving into politics and majority this people already have some good amount of bitcoin  and when they get into power I believe  the law will be lessened and that's for my country because they  wouldn't want it seem their breaking any law.

In conclusion, I believe  the government  will soon than expected accept bitcoin  global.

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July 09, 2023, 01:33:35 PM
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Since Bitcoin has increased, many governments in a country continue to monitor the development of Bitcoin, and I am very sure that one day the government will adopt Bitcoin, but this all needs a process because there are many things that must be fulfilled by the government because Bitcoin is decentralized so there must be a right decision if adoption occurs, this problem has actually been a long time and until now there has been no best decision.

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July 09, 2023, 01:49:51 PM
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I don't believe that the government are out of Bitcoin investment already, but it's something they can never come out in the open to reveal to the world, maybe all the hate is also a big plan of shaking money off from people, with fear and panic, it's just a saying don't take it as a fact.

To the whole world, the government must hate crypto and Bitcoin most especially because it's centralized vs decentralization, even if one part of the government likes Bitcoin they have to pretend to hate it, look it's more beneficial to them because the world still follows the order from the government.

I won't be surprised if the government are pumping and dumping crypto and they are already in the game too, think about it very well, it's beneficial for those in power through manipulation, real manipulation is money making in crypto world.

That's why I never believe what they say, I will only believe what they do. We all want money, and government is no exception, I believe the elephants behind market manipulation can be government, banks, any organization that is smearing bitcoin day by day have, they possibly a whale. But getting them to accept bitcoin is really another matter because if they openly support bitcoin, they are shooting themselves in the foot trying to destroy their centralized system.

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