Who is actually a Bitcoin investor

[panganib999]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

it all boils down to whether you're here in the industry for profit or you're not and you're looking to do something else. For the most part, every person out there who bought bitcoins, used it at least once and then held the rest are automatically considered "investors" since they bought and invested on bitcoin for profit. Certain people who didn't buy bitcoin and are here for profit too but took a different route, like employment or developing, are still technically investors but we don't really talk about them.

The main gist is, if you have bitcoins in your wallet, you're using some sort of strategy either to get more bitcoins or to get more dollars out of your bitcoins, and it's working, you're already an investor hands-down.

[Nwada001]

For someone to spend bitcoin, he must at one point hold bitcoin before becoming a spender or he should have bought bitcoin, in either case, he is an investor at one point or another.

Saying he is means he should still be holding some of those Bitcoins, because I'm a one-time landlord of some old properties somewhere, which, because of some personal challenges, I sold out, and I no longer have a house of my own but am now a tenant to another landlord. Will I still be called a landlord? I will consider using the past tense "Was" on such a person who has bitcoins but has spent them, rather than saying He "is" a landlord. Because they are no longer in possession of what gave them that title.

[JoyMarsha]

Since the goal is to hodl and gain profits, someone who has had some bitcoin in their wallet for a while should consider themselves a Bitcoin investor.

For someone to spend bitcoin, he must at one point hold bitcoin before becoming a spender or he should have bought bitcoin, in either case, he is an investor at one point or another.

Some other points you say, not at that point. ​If a person does not now have bitcoin in his wallet, he should refrain from calling himself an investor in bitcoin because it is the past. He currently has nothing to indicate that he expects to make money from bitcoin in the future. Unless he decides to invest in bitcoin later run a later. When he still has bitcoin in his wallet, that is when he should be addressed as a Bitcoin investor.

[KingsDen]

For someone to spend bitcoin, he must at one point hold bitcoin before becoming a spender or he should have bought bitcoin, in either case, he is an investor at one point or another.

Very apt! Some people try to make out many things from the word investor. If you have your money in bitcoin as part of your investment, you are automatically a bitcoin investor. It is that simple unless anyone wants to confuse the masses and themselves inclusive.

I have read where some people try to set the amount of bitcoin one should own before it can be regarded as an investment and also how long they will have to hold it before it will be called an investment. That is not it.

[Mr.suevie]

For someone to spend bitcoin, he must at one point hold bitcoin before becoming a spender or he should have bought bitcoin, in either case, he is an investor at one point or another.

Saying he is means he should still be holding some of those Bitcoins, because I'm a one-time landlord of some old properties somewhere, which, because of some personal challenges, I sold out, and I no longer have a house of my own but am now a tenant to another landlord. Will I still be called a landlord? I will consider using the past tense "Was" on such a person who has bitcoins but has spent them, rather than saying He "is" a landlord. Because they are no longer in possession of what gave them that title.

Nice proverbs, I think looking at it from the perspective you pointed out really clears the issue a little because having something before and now no longer having it is never the same so I guess its safe to join you and refer to such person or bitcoin investor with the tense of the past. The same could actually buy back the BTC sold and still decide to hold to become once more an investor as to same way the tenant landlord can still acquire another house of his own again and still be called landlord once more.

[erep]

For someone to spend bitcoin, he must at one point hold bitcoin before becoming a spender or he should have bought bitcoin, in either case, he is an investor at one point or another.

Someone wants to call himself a Bitcoin investor if he still has Bitcoin in his wallet for the purpose of being able to achieve the planned profit target, but holding bitcoin does not specify a specific time and if you are committed to a long term hold then you are indicating a serious investor waiting for higher profits when the bitcoin price potentially recover or be able to reach a new ATH. If he has sold all the bitcoin assets then they have left the category of bitcoin investors even though they are still monitoring and analyzing the crypto market all the time and when they buy back bitcoins they have become part of bitcoin investors.

[lalabotax]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

We can consider what is considered as an investor in general:

a person or organization that puts money into financial plans, property, etc. with the expectation of achieving a profit.

Source: Oxford Languages
From the definition above, simply put, we can mean that an investor is anyone who spends money to buy something that he hopes will bring profits within a certain period of time. Likewise with Bitcoin. Investing in Bitcoin means that someone spends money to buy Bitcoin at a certain rate and then sell it back at some point. the hope is to bring in profits. What differs a little is how long we invest as Bitcoin investors, whether for the short-term or for the long-term.

[Raflesia]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

The focus in this case is back on the Investor. We know that Investors are people who keep or invest in bitcoin over a longer period of time so in this case when it comes to shopping or trading I would not say that as an investor but as a trader.
The conditions may be a little similar, it's just that when traders even hold bitcoin but they realise that their goal is not for the long term which makes them try to buy and sell bitcoin but it's different from Investors because they have their own targets both in time and the progress of profits to be obtained as the ultimate goal.

[fuguebtc]

I don't consider those people bitcoin investors, they are just pure users as they use bitcoin as a currency to pay their daily bills.

An investor hodls his bitcoin long time like more than one year but he can have different wallets. Hodl wallets for investment and smaller wallets with small amount of bitcoin to use daily or when needs to use bitcoin for payments. You can not say a person who uses bitcoin as payment method is not a Bitcoin investor.

You can not know which wallet belongs to who and who is he, trader or investor.

If I don't tell you, you will know know what are my Bitcoin wallets, addresses. You don't know how many wallets I have and how I use each wallets for payment or investment.

I don't want to go into specifics like you, nobody really cares what you're using bitcoin for. What I mean here is that many people see bitcoin as an investment, but there are still some who see bitcoin as a currency just like Satoshi created it. As for whether they disguise or hide what they do, nobody cares. Not everyone who owns bitcoin is an investor, although I don't deny that 99% of people enter the market for the purpose of making money and becoming an investor.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Saying he is means he should still be holding some of those Bitcoins, because I'm a one-time landlord of some old properties somewhere, which, because of some personal challenges, I sold out, and I no longer have a house of my own but am now a tenant to another landlord. Will I still be called a landlord? I will consider using the past tense "Was" on such a person who has bitcoins but has spent them, rather than saying He "is" a landlord. Because they are no longer in possession of what gave them that title.

Well, your scenario seems a bit strange, although it's quite relatable, but you still cannot compare the situation of a Bitcoin Investor to that of a landlord. The reason why I say so is because, even if someone spends their Bitcoin today for some personal reasons, if the person is a real Bitcoiner, he will definitely have the intention to re-buy the Bitcoin he or she has spent, and it can be replaced with a gradual accumulation, so we can say the person is still an investor. But for housing properties, you really cannot buy a house with $20 or $100, but with Bitcoin, it's just as easy to Begin to re-buy the Bitcoin you spent. Although I get your point, @Nwada001, my point is that it's very easy to re-buy the Bitcoin you spent today the next day, but not so easy for a house.
  


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[yudi09]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Bitcoin users are people who spend Bitcoin in a buying and selling activity.
Investors are people who own assets and set profit targets for a certain period of time.
A certain period of time is further divided into several parts such as long term and short term.
More or less. There are many sources that you can use as a reference to find the difference you mean.

The answers to this topic have totaled 4 pages and all of them provide answers that are close together or point in one direction clearly.

[Yatsan]

Simply an individual who bought something with hopes that its market value will increase and that profit will be earned. If you have some holdings in your wallet and you tend to use it on its sole purpose, then you are either a consumer or user of this technology. The difference between a consumer and an investor is with regards to the purpose and intention and the extent of how would he/she make use of that particular thing. However a consumer can also be an investor if the sole reason to why they have engaged into this industry is to spread awareness and to look forward with profitable future.

[Nwada001]

Well, your scenario seems a bit strange, although it's quite relatable, but you still cannot compare the situation of a Bitcoin Investor to that of a landlord. The reason why I say so is because, even if someone spends their Bitcoin today for some personal reasons, if the person is a real Bitcoiner, he will definitely have the intention to re-buy the Bitcoin he or she has spent, and it can be replaced with a gradual accumulation, so we can say the person is still an investor. But for housing properties, you really cannot buy a house with $20 or $100, but with Bitcoin, it's just as easy to Begin to re-buy the Bitcoin you spent. Although I get your point, @Nwada001, my point is that it's very easy to re-buy the Bitcoin you spent today the next day, but not so easy for a house.
Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

If you believe that Bitcoin sold out can still be gotten back by the holder with just a matter of time and determination, the same thing is applicable to a house owner. For me to be able to own a house today because of a predicament, I sold it out to solve that issue. If I'm determined to buy another house, I can still do it. The same determination that's required for an investor to grab back his investment is also the same thing that someone could use to buy a new house.

You can also say that Bitcoin could be purchased with any little amount of money in one's hand since it's divisible in nature. The same thing can also happen when it comes to landed property. With the little money one has, you can go for whatever you can afford. But for the main time, provided that you are no longer in possession of either the property or the bitcoin, they don't see you as qualified to be called an investor until you decide to own them back. Only then can the title return to you.

[Blitzboy]

Well, your scenario seems a bit strange, although it's quite relatable, but you still cannot compare the situation of a Bitcoin Investor to that of a landlord. The reason why I say so is because, even if someone spends their Bitcoin today for some personal reasons, if the person is a real Bitcoiner, he will definitely have the intention to re-buy the Bitcoin he or she has spent, and it can be replaced with a gradual accumulation, so we can say the person is still an investor. But for housing properties, you really cannot buy a house with $20 or $100, but with Bitcoin, it's just as easy to Begin to re-buy the Bitcoin you spent. Although I get your point, @Nwada001, my point is that it's very easy to re-buy the Bitcoin you spent today the next day, but not so easy for a house.
Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

If you believe that Bitcoin sold out can still be gotten back by the holder with just a matter of time and determination, the same thing is applicable to a house owner. For me to be able to own a house today because of a predicament, I sold it out to solve that issue. If I'm determined to buy another house, I can still do it. The same determination that's required for an investor to grab back his investment is also the same thing that someone could use to buy a new house.

You can also say that Bitcoin could be purchased with any little amount of money in one's hand since it's divisible in nature. The same thing can also happen when it comes to landed property. With the little money one has, you can go for whatever you can afford. But for the main time, provided that you are no longer in possession of either the property or the bitcoin, they don't see you as qualified to be called an investor until you decide to own them back. Only then can the title return to you.

In my opinion, your risk tolerance, financial goals, and market outlook should all be reflected in the assets you select to invest in. Although both Bitcoin and real estate can be purchased in fractional amounts, their respective markets operate in quite different ways. Depending on your point of view, the fluctuating price of Bitcoin is either frustrating or fascinating.

Regarding the premise that the investor's status is tied to their possession of an asset, I respectfully disagree. An investor, in my view, is someone who spends not just money but also time and effort learning about the market, making strategic decisions based on that knowledge, and then reflecting on and improving upon those results, whether or not they are lucrative.

[Framelover]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Both spending Bitcoins from a specific wallet and hodling them can classify someone as a Bitcoin investor. The term "investor" encompasses individuals who actively engage with Bitcoin, recognizing its potential for financial growth. Whether through spending or holding, they participate in the cryptocurrency ecosystem, taking calculated steps to manage their Bitcoin holdings. Both approaches involve strategic decision making, aligning with the core principles of investment. Therefore, both spenders and hodlers can rightfully be considered Bitcoin investors.

[jeraldskie11]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Both spending Bitcoins from a specific wallet and hodling them can classify someone as a Bitcoin investor. The term "investor" encompasses individuals who actively engage with Bitcoin, recognizing its potential for financial growth. Whether through spending or holding, they participate in the cryptocurrency ecosystem, taking calculated steps to manage their Bitcoin holdings. Both approaches involve strategic decision making, aligning with the core principles of investment. Therefore, both spenders and hodlers can rightfully be considered Bitcoin investors.

Not only the one who spend or hodl can be considered as Bitcoin investor but also those who trade. If you call yourself as Bitcoin investor, you have to make sure that you're a big part of the success of Bitcoin, you might be one of the reason why the price increases. Traders for me is a short term investors because they usually won't hold an asset for a long time. They are also the reason why the price is always moving up and down, and encourage big investors to get inside. So if you're a trader, you can also be called as Bitcoin investor.

[adzino]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Look at the definition of investment and then you will know who is a "Bitcoin investor". When you invest on something, you hope for the value to appreciate in the long run and then you sell it for profit. How can it be called investing in bitcoin if you are actually buying bitcoin to use it as a regular day day transaction currency? You spend it, you no longer will be making any profit. So yes, the term investor refers to only those who are holding bitcoin with the hope of making profit when the price goes up. It is the same for everything you invest on.

[xSkylarx]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Look at the definition of investment and then you will know who is a "Bitcoin investor". When you invest on something, you hope for the value to appreciate in the long run and then you sell it for profit. How can it be called investing in bitcoin if you are actually buying bitcoin to use it as a regular day day transaction currency? You spend it, you no longer will be making any profit. So yes, the term investor refers to only those who are holding bitcoin with the hope of making profit when the price goes up. It is the same for everything you invest on.

As long as you are hoping for profit, it is an investment, even if your main purpose is to spend it, but at the same time, you are hoping the price goes up so that the value will be higher. But again, this is nonsense because all of us are benefiting from it, no matter what the purpose. We do have our own perspectives, but let's just respect each other. No matter if they are called investors or not, as long as we are using Bitcoin, then it is good for us.

[YUriy1991]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

If you already have BTC, even if it's a few and you're holding it for a certain period of time, you're in the investor class. Tthe general view of Investors is that people/companies/financial institutions have a lot of money that they can afford to buy BTC. Well, what @ndutndut conveyed is the component part. I can conclude that anyone who has bought and owns/holds BTC and is directly involved in buying and selling transactions, be it small or large categories, is one of them.

[taufik123]

If you already have BTC, even if it's a few and you're holding it for a certain period of time, you're in the investor class. Tthe general view of Investors is that people/companies/financial institutions have a lot of money that they can afford to buy BTC. Well, what @ndutndut conveyed is the component part. I can conclude that anyone who has bought and owns/holds BTC and is directly involved in buying and selling transactions, be it small or large categories, is one of them.

Holding for a certain period of time and already in the investor class?
It seems that the investor class is not always the case, within a certain period of time it could be short-term and those who only buy Bitcoin for the short term are referred to as traders and only take advantage of Bitcoin price fluctuations for profit.

Not those who are only able to buy Bitcoin, but those who are able to buy and then hold Bitcoin for the long term, so that they will benefit from long-term holding.

Those who are directly involved in buying and selling Bitcoin are not always referred to as investors.
They have different goals, buying and selling for speculation in the hope of quick profits.