Who is actually a Bitcoin investor

[Richycryp]

Well my own contributions and understanding on your question is that.
Anyone that has bitcoin in the wallet can be called a trader, some may not see their self as a trader because they are not watching the market or reading news about bitcoin, meanwhile bitcoin normally goes up and down and it effect everyone that has bitcoin in the wallets anytime bitcoin makes moves.

At this point you are also a trader but you may not know or consider to be a trader, the only people that that consider to be a trader is those ones that watch the market and know when to buy and sell.

Well my answer goes like this. Anyone that has bitcoin in the wallets is a trader period.

[kotajikikox]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

if he is just depositing and and spending all the coins ?


eg. deposing to use for Gambling .

then we cannot consider that sa Investors because he is just using crypto as medium to play in crypto gambling sites.


but if he deposits for example 100 dollars and only spent 20$ keeps the 80 then he is completely a Holder in which many of us I believe is doing?

[Fiatless]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

The word investor is anyone who does business in the Bitcoin space to achieve a goal which can be monetary or non-monetary. Somebody can invest time, skills, or money in Bitcoin and the reward he is expecting can be in the form of money or other intangible reward. People who do bitcoin awareness and education voluntarily can be said to be investors. They might not be expecting money but he expects his students or audience to learn about Bitcoin and become believers. The joy of a bitcoin volunteer is the natural sense of accomplishment.

Now investors can put in money with the main of making profit within a short, medium, or long period. Some traders target daily profits and others within days or months but bitcoin Hodlers can keep the currency for years or even decades. Bitcoin hodlers are generally referred to as real investors.

[Gallar]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Basically an investor is someone who has bought or invested money in a particular company or business. So when referring to bitcoin, of course it's the same.
So if you look at the basics of investment, someone who has bought bitcoin means that person can be said to be a bitcoin investor.

So even if the person spends bitcoins in any way. Basically this person can still be said to be a bitcoin investor. But maybe if it is directly spent or sold immediately, it means that the person only invested briefly in the bitcoin. Because you need to know, investors in bitcoin have several ways to make a profit. Some invest in the short term, there are also those who invest in the medium term, and there are also those who invest in the long term.

So the point is that bitcoin investors are not measured by the length of time they have held the asset (bitcoin), but the point is that if the person has bought bitcoin, it means that person is legally a bitcoin investor.
So the question the OP made was just a matter of the difference in selling bitcoins. One can be said to be a bitcoin investor who invests in the short term and the second is a bitcoin investor who invests in the long term.

[Obari]

I think from the common man's definition,  anyone who has a fraction of bitcoin  ought to be regarded as an investor because you already bought and invested  in bitcoin  regardless of how much and how long you hodl.
But on the real sense, people who hold for a much longer time are the real investors as there are several classes of bitcoiners which include both the day traders, long term holders as well as the scalpers but regardless of whatever class we call in, I think they're  all investors.

[Minor Miner]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Basically an investor is someone who has bought or invested money in a particular company or business. So when referring to bitcoin, of course it's the same.
So if you look at the basics of investment, someone who has bought bitcoin means that person can be said to be a bitcoin investor.

So even if the person spends bitcoins in any way. Basically this person can still be said to be a bitcoin investor. But maybe if it is directly spent or sold immediately, it means that the person only invested briefly in the bitcoin. Because you need to know, investors in bitcoin have several ways to make a profit. Some invest in the short term, there are also those who invest in the medium term, and there are also those who invest in the long term.

So the point is that bitcoin investors are not measured by the length of time they have held the asset (bitcoin), but the point is that if the person has bought bitcoin, it means that person is legally a bitcoin investor.
So the question the OP made was just a matter of the difference in selling bitcoins. One can be said to be a bitcoin investor who invests in the short term and the second is a bitcoin investor who invests in the long term.

I don't completely agree with what you said, many people only use bitcoin as a payment method, they have no intention of making a profit from it, how can they be called investors? Buying bitcoin with fiat is a must because it is not yet a popular currency like fiat, and if they only convert enough bitcoin to pay then they cannot be called investors.

Don't forget that Satoshi created bitcoin for the purpose of being a peer-to-peer payment method, he did not create bitcoin for speculative purposes. So depending on the purpose of use, we can know who is the user and who is the investor.

[bayu7adi]

In my opinion, investing in Bitcoin undoubtedly involves buying Bitcoin, but buying Bitcoin doesn't necessarily mean someone is investing.

Investing, in my view, is the act of purchasing something with the intention of increasing wealth by selling goods or services at a higher price than the purchase cost, whether through active management or not.

Thus, those who invest in Bitcoin are those who identify themselves as short-term Bitcoin traders or long-term Bitcoin investors. Their goal is the same: to profit from trading Bitcoin. However, the difference lies in their timing of selling.

[lienfaye]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Well, If he is just using Bitcoin as currency and not holding it for long to gain, then for me he's just using it for convenience. Because if we say investor, you're waiting to gain from what you invested either for short or long term. Therefore if you're not gaining from Bitcoin then I don't think you're an investor since you have other purpose on how you use your Bitcoin.

Anyway, we have our own understanding and stance regarding this hence I don't think it's a big deal. We're free to use our Bitcoin depending on what we think is beneficial and of course on what we believe in.

[Outhue]

Trading shouldn't be confused with investing, there are two types of crypto investors, the short term investors and the long term investors.

Short term investors buy some Bitcoin or crypto with the hope of making some percentages in a very limited period of time, for example in a few months, when that time comes they take profits and move out of the market until they are ready for another round, mostly after another dip occurs.

Long term investors are those who willing believe in the money making aspect and also the technology, they are ready to make money from Bitcoin and they are also a long term believers, such people will always stay even after they sold their bags, they focus on having more quantities of Bitcoin as year's go by.

Traders cares about price action only, through the fluctuation of prices they make their calls and if they are right they go home with profits, there is no need to wait for weeks, months or years to make money with trading, price actions is what feeds traders, they are not investors.

[IvugeoEvolutionCoin]

I think from the common man's definition,  anyone who has a fraction of bitcoin  ought to be regarded as an investor because you already bought and invested  in bitcoin  regardless of how much and how long you hodl.
But on the real sense, people who hold for a much longer time are the real investors as there are several classes of bitcoiners which include both the day traders, long term holders as well as the scalpers but regardless of whatever class we call in, I think they're  all investors.

There are many ways to earn money by investing in Bitcoin but among them I prefer long term investment. Long term investment gives good amount of profit. For that I prefer long term investment. But here is day trading.  Not much profit from trading is waste of time for which I don't like it much.

[lepbagong]

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There are many ways to earn money by investing in Bitcoin but among them I prefer long term investment. Long term investment gives good amount of profit. For that I prefer long term investment. But here is day trading.  Not much profit from trading is waste of time for which I don't like it much.

I think everyone has different views, and there are those who still continue to do daily trading because they have certainly analyzed it well and maybe they can still make a profit, although I also believe that those who do daily trading will not let go of the long term because it is clearly very profitable.Even though daily trading is very risky without accurate analysis and is not recommended for those without experience, it is still the case that long-term investment is the best, and I agree with what you say.

[Blitzboy]

Trading shouldn't be confused with investing, there are two types of crypto investors, the short term investors and the long term investors.

Short term investors buy some Bitcoin or crypto with the hope of making some percentages in a very limited period of time, for example in a few months, when that time comes they take profits and move out of the market until they are ready for another round, mostly after another dip occurs.

Long term investors are those who willing believe in the money making aspect and also the technology, they are ready to make money from Bitcoin and they are also a long term believers, such people will always stay even after they sold their bags, they focus on having more quantities of Bitcoin as year's go by.

Traders cares about price action only, through the fluctuation of prices they make their calls and if they are right they go home with profits, there is no need to wait for weeks, months or years to make money with trading, price actions is what feeds traders, they are not investors.

Looking back, trading and investing are very different. Short-term buyers are crypto marathon sprinters, as you accurately said. To take advantage of fleeting opportunities, they pace themselves for brief bursts of speed. They are perceptive, watchful, and hopeful. Long-term buyers, however, show patience. Marathon runners maintain a constant pace and concentrate on the goal. They are the core of the cryptocurrency community and think blockchain can change the world. What about crypto influencers and educators? Those who mold opinions, perspectives, and stories without transacting or making investments? Their significance is likewise significant. You cannot ignore their modest but significant contribution in this ecosystem

[Wiwo]

holding Bitcoin in wallet without investing or trading it, doesn't make someone an investor. you will only called an investor when you are trading on your Bitcoin and making profits.

You are wrong on this assumption and in fact a Bitcoin trader may not be considered as an investor since he could possibly lose his capital plus all the gains that he made previously,  trading and gambling are in the same category as high risk activities and should not be relied on.

When you talk about an investor,  what that means is that their is capital protection even though you don't make any profits or lose in the business,  and holding bitcoin in your noncustodial wallet is the best form of Bitcoin investment since it reduces your risk of losing your coins,  but when you trade on exchange,  remember not your keys, not your coins.

[Rockstarguy]

Well my own contributions and understanding on your question is that.
Anyone that has bitcoin in the wallet can be called a trader, some may not see their self as a trader because they are not watching the market or reading news about bitcoin, meanwhile bitcoin normally goes up and down and it effect everyone that has bitcoin in the wallets anytime bitcoin makes moves.

At this point you are also a trader but you may not know or consider to be a trader, the only people that that consider to be a trader is those ones that watch the market and know when to buy and sell.

Well my answer goes like this. Anyone that has bitcoin in the wallets is a trader period.

I think trading bitcoin is different from investing,  trading happens to be an excess which is short and with the short time  the  trader is expected to make gain in every trade. While investing bitcoin happens to invest a particular among of money that is expected to be long-term for reasonable amount of profit to be gain from  the market.  When investing it is not necessary for one to monitor the market all time  to check the up and the down of the market,  investing is mostly profitable when it is long-term. Trading and investing are two  different things .

[DaNNy001]

I think from the common man's definition,  anyone who has a fraction of bitcoin  ought to be regarded as an investor because you already bought and invested  in bitcoin  regardless of how much and how long you hodl.
But on the real sense, people who hold for a much longer time are the real investors as there are several classes of bitcoiners which include both the day traders, long term holders as well as the scalpers but regardless of whatever class we call in, I think they're  all investors.

Hmmm, that's a really broad view on bitcoin investors and although you are right but with the original take of bitcoin as a currency itself I wouldn't class every one that has bitcoin as an investor because from what I understand it's first purpose entirely was to be used as an online money so I think  having money in your account doesn't actually classify you as an investor because most people just have bitcoin and never think of holding it as an investment means.

[Obari]

I think from the common man's definition,  anyone who has a fraction of bitcoin  ought to be regarded as an investor because you already bought and invested  in bitcoin  regardless of how much and how long you hodl.
But on the real sense, people who hold for a much longer time are the real investors as there are several classes of bitcoiners which include both the day traders, long term holders as well as the scalpers but regardless of whatever class we call in, I think they're  all investors.

Hmmm, that's a really broad view on bitcoin investors and although you are right but with the original take of bitcoin as a currency itself I wouldn't class every one that has bitcoin as an investor because from what I understand it's first purpose entirely was to be used as an online money so I think  having money in your account doesn't actually classify you as an investor because most people just have bitcoin and never think of holding it as an investment means.

I get your points and I guess your points is coming  from bitcoin  being a digital  currency  but I was on the other hand seeing bitcoin  as a digital asset and bitcoin  being a digital asset simply means that anyone holding a fraction or portion of it automatically becomes an investor and this is drawn from a case scenario  of some one owning a physical asset like shares and irrespective of how much shares one owns they are still considered as shareholder and I think that is also applicable when seeing bitcoin  as a digital asset rather than a digital  or virtual currency.

I understand  that moat persons don't ry have intentions of holding bitcoin  but there are cases where people make profit as well as losses unconsciously while holding their coins hence they also take same risk as investors.

[rojan]

I think everyone has different views, and there are those who still continue to do daily trading because they have certainly analyzed it well and maybe they can still make a profit, although I also believe that those who do daily trading will not let go of the long term because it is clearly very profitable.Even though daily trading is very risky without accurate analysis and is not recommended for those without experience, it is still the case that long-term investment is the best, and I agree with what you say.

I find it very easy to make money from daily trading. However, if I do daily trading, I trade more in altcoins, and if I invest for the long term, I invest in Bitcoin. Let us remember.  Bitcoin is popular, so if you invest in Bitcoin, you never have to face any problem. However, you can make some money from daily trading with some risk in altcoin. But sometimes you lose money while trading. I trade by accepting both profit and loss.  It is very good for me.

[Barbie desert]

It was defined that investors are the person who allocates their money with the expectation to profit so basically investors are people who buy Bitcoin in the belief that they will profit from it.  Those who buy Bitcoin and spend it may not be considered a Bitcoin investor but rather a Bitcoin user.

I think Bitcoin investors are people who basically has interest in cyrpto currencies and believe so much it it's potential.
Where as they trade on Bitcoin currency  as per buying and selling and regaining profits from them. 

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

There is a similar thread where this discussed extensively. I tried to make search but the forum and cloud fare could not allow me.
How about we call it "Bitcoin owner"
Ensure you first have Bitcoin, it is you that will determine if the money you put into bitcoin is for investment. If yes, it's bitcoin investment. If not, name it according to your purpose.

Those who spend Bitcoin are called Bitcoin users, they can't be an owner anymore if they buy and spend their Bitcoin since the spending part simply means they are parting with their Bitcoins.

[icalical]

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Generally investor mean someone who are gaining profit from the increasing price of an asset, the same applied to Bitcoin, if a person is buying Bitcoin solely to gain some profit when the price of Bitcoin goes up, then he/she is investor. For your first case, people who has Bitcoin on their wallet and spend it for something or using it for a transaction, I think the correct term is Bitcoin Adopter, because they adopt Bitcoin as their currency for transaction.

[xSkylarx]

I think from the common man's definition,  anyone who has a fraction of bitcoin  ought to be regarded as an investor because you already bought and invested  in bitcoin  regardless of how much and how long you hodl.
But on the real sense, people who hold for a much longer time are the real investors as there are several classes of bitcoiners which include both the day traders, long term holders as well as the scalpers but regardless of whatever class we call in, I think they're  all investors.

No matter how long or short you hold the bitcoin, it is classed as an investment as long as you hold it and expect a profit on it because there are investors that are new. Let's say those newbies are holding a bitcoin and they thought it was easy, so they will sell it off. But in that short period of time they hold the bitcoin, they are investors, but it is just that they are lacking some knowledge and not able to control their emotions, which is why they sell off early.

There are no real or fake investors; it is only good or bad investors if we differ because others just jump into holding Bitcoin as they were persuaded by someone, but there are also still people who conduct research on Bitcoin for a couple of months before investing in it. So all of us are investors if we hold a bitcoin; it is just a matter of how good we are at holding it as well as controlling our emotions.