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[Synchronice]

Recently, I was looking for some deals on digital goods sub-board and noticed that there is a user called FmaTR that has thread with 154 replies. Sounds cool, right? Then I checked his thread and absolutely every reply seems to be done by him. 99% of replies are from accounts that have only 1 activity. A user registered on Bitcointalk just to write a post in his thread to highlight how smooth deal he or she had with FmaTR. Definitely, this is absurd and we can confidently say that this user creates fake accounts to write positive reviews about his service. He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.

Here is his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399661.140

I want to apologize to him, I tried his service and this guy is not only legit but very cool!

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A user registered on Bitcointalk just to write a post in his thread to highlight how smooth deal he or she had with FmaTR. Definitely, this is absurd and we can confidently say that this user creates fake accounts to write positive reviews about his service.

You are absolutely right here. This is already a well-known technique for improving all offers through feedback via an alt account. I really don't believe that anyone believes in what he does.

He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.

You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.

[NotATether]

In this case, it is only appropriate for a moderator to delete all of the consecutive intermediate replies in the thread, and if the user keeps doing it again, a temporary ban with the reason: "Many duplicate bumps on a thread which were not deleted". I think a straight-up permaban is overblown in this case and should be reserved for egregious spammers and people who commit plagiarism.

[Lucius]

Many people use dirty techniques to create the illusion that someone is buying something, but I don't see how to approach such cases and how to prove that they are using alt accounts?

It is especially difficult now that we have a rule that says "Old post: We generally do not moderate posts this old for on-topicness, substantiveness, multi-posting, and other "cleanliness" issues." In addition, except for plagiarism or spreading malware, it is extremely difficult to get a permanent ban on this forum.

There are even weirder techniques that I've seen, which consist of the OP quoting and then responding to posts that are several months or years old, which of course makes no sense and looks very strange - but it definitely saves them time because they don't have to create new alt accounts.

[Plaguedeath]

I disagree, scams aren't moderated and the moderators will not ban scammer.

There's no proof if those newbie and brand new accounts are his alts. It doesn't mean those accounts are legit, it definitely looks suspicious, but still not deserved negative tags because there's no proof and he have been here from the last year.

"Many duplicate bumps on a thread which were not deleted".

It's not against forum rules if you always replying every user's post, although there are few of his posts are posted in a row, however the punishment is only the moderator merge the post, not temporary ban.

I've left neutral tag to the account.

Looks suspicious - All of the buyers are newbie or brand new accounts.

[Findingnemo]

I don't remember anyone banned for a shilling. If there is conclusive evidence there to claim that person is creating reviews on his own by pretending to be someone then DT feedback is the only choice. Violating 24 bu,p rule hardly get the temp ban only if the person keeps doing it after previous warnings and deletions.

[YOSHIE]

Here is his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399661.140

Bitcointalk has legal and real rules, for accounts that will be banned, posting bla, bla, bla is not a policy of banning those accounts, there are certain and obvious violations for accounts that can get a permanent ban, not based on disliking me A ka account B.

You can read the process for banned accounts, Meta, it is marked if the account does not violate the provisions of existing rules, not policies for bans, thus and highly recommended for those involved in purchasing goods or service sites, be careful and never buy anything and trade with a beginner's account, the risks and consequences are greater.

But and if you are still reckless and want FmaTR account to be banned, find other evidence of violations that could lead to banning by Bitclintalk.

[Dunamisx]

there is a user called FmaTR that has thread with 154 replies. Sounds cool, right? Then I checked his thread and absolutely every reply seems to be done by him. 99% of replies are from accounts that have only 1 activity. A user registered on Bitcointalk just to write a post in his thread to highlight how smooth deal he or she had with FmaTR.

You have a vital information and observation made here but am sorry there may not be any action this may attract because scam is not moderated on the forum first, the user does not break or violate any forum's rules and regulations, it's not a must you have a deal with such user, you can even ignore him if you so wishes, as for the other accounts making replies on his thread only with one activity, sooner or later their bubbles will get bursted soon except they have nothing fishy under their cupboard hidden.

Definitely, this is absurd and we can confidently say that this user creates fake accounts to write positive reviews about his service.

Have you got any evidence that linked them all together under same user? If not then you may be accusing wrongly except you have enough evidence over that, many uses the opportunity of creating alt account to pilot their ratings and reviews but yours is to be very vigilant not to fall on their traps.

[CYBER_COWBOY]

I watched the thread and that is quite sick behaviour and should not be allowed on the forum at least I think but its not up to me to decide, but I agree with you.
But I don't think it's a scammer, its somebody that trying to take a shortcut to success, the amounts on the stuff he selling is so low, why all this effort for maybe scam somebody for $17 or $70?
It's just make zero sense, but what do I know. But it's still wrong!

[Bitcoin_Arena]

If you can prove that the accounts involved are posting fake feedback and are shill accounts of sorts. You can compile a list of all the suspicious accounts and post them in this thread.
I will tag them and also flag the OP. We need to protect newbies and guest users. Those are the kinds of threads that get them scammed.

I have seen people tag thread bumping groups/services. I don't see why this case is any different if the evidence is clear.

[zaim7413]

The behavior exhibited in the account owner's thread named FmaTR drives opinion towards dirty behavior by creating an atmosphere where someone is satisfied with the service offered by Op. Although the existence of suspicious activity that occurred in the Thread needs valid evidence to make accusations Op has used multiple Alt accounts to highlight how satisfied they are after doing a deal with FmaTR.

There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.

Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110

It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.

[lovesmayfamilis]

It looks suspicious, but at the same time, you may notice that the topic itself does not have self-moderation, and we do not see any complaints. It would be possible to raise a wave of indignation if a person came and wrote that he had been deceived.
In all other cases, I know that the sellers of such accounts often ask their buyers to write reviews in one place or another. It is quite possible that this is just such a case.

[FmaTR]

Dear friends.

I understand your concern about trust. But to prove it, I can serve a few of you friends without commission or extra charge. Also, if you write to me on telegram, I can forward my old feedback conversations to you. This is not just my sales platform. I can also present my references to you in other forums. The reason new users give feedback is because I want feedback from users coming from the search engine. Actually this means new user for our forum. I think it is useful for both me and the forum. I repeat, I can serve 1-2 of our friends under this topic without any commission or extra charge.

Kind regards.


Also if feedback from new subscribers is suspicious. It would be better for me to get feedback from you.  

Recently, I was looking for some deals on digital goods sub-board and noticed that there is a user called FmaTR that has thread with 154 replies. Sounds cool, right? Then I checked his thread and absolutely every reply seems to be done by him. 99% of replies are from accounts that have only 1 activity. A user registered on Bitcointalk just to write a post in his thread to highlight how smooth deal he or she had with FmaTR. Definitely, this is absurd and we can confidently say that this user creates fake accounts to write positive reviews about his service. He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.

Here is his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399661.140

What you did is very shameful and rude. Do you have any proof about me? NO. You're slandering me by calling me a liar and a scammer. I am sure of myself. If you find someone I cheated or lied to, I will close my account and go. If you can't find it, can you do the same? Are you that sure of yourself?

[Synchronice]

He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.

You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.

I think that sometimes we shouldn't wait for real damage and accidents to take measurements but we can prevent them from happening. Maybe ban is exaggerated but it will be optimal if DT members leave a negative or neutral feedback. I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.

What you did is very shameful and rude. Do you have any proof about me? NO. You're slandering me by calling me a liar and a scammer. I am sure of myself. If you find someone I cheated or lied to, I will close my account and go. If you can't find it, can you do the same? Are you that sure of yourself?

Can you explain please how did the deal happen between you and your customers? How it comes that they registered account exclusively to leave a positive reply in your thread and leave a positive trust on your profile? And then they have never used those accounts?
Such a thing can happen once or twice but the frequency of that in your thread is extraordinary high.

If you prove that those feedbacks are real and your service is legit, I'll take my words back and even reward you! I promise!

[Plaguedeath]

I think that sometimes we shouldn't wait for real damage and accidents to take measurements but we can prevent them from happening. Maybe ban is exaggerated but it will be optimal if DT members leave a negative or neutral feedback. I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.

If you're think a warning message is important, don't wait for other people to do it for you, just leave an appropriate feedback even though you're not DT, I also not a DT member but I'm taking a move by leaving a neutral tag on his account. It's true non DT members feedback will be in untrusted feedback, but it's not a matter as long as you're doing right.

Be careful if you want to leave a negative feedback, if you give it, then you're just destroy his reputation and no one will trust him since he looks like a scammer.

@FmaTR try to compile your post in one reply, the forum has a rule about prohibit posts in a row.

[CYBER_COWBOY]

He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.

You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.

I think that sometimes we shouldn't wait for real damage and accidents to take measurements but we can prevent them from happening. Maybe ban is exaggerated but it will be optimal if DT members leave a negative or neutral feedback. I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback

I do agree with you 100% there, everything is not black or white.
I had a simular problem here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456889.0

[FmaTR]

The behavior exhibited in the account owner's thread named FmaTR drives opinion towards dirty behavior by creating an atmosphere where someone is satisfied with the service offered by Op. Although the existence of suspicious activity that occurred in the Thread needs valid evidence to make accusations Op has used multiple Alt accounts to highlight how satisfied they are after doing a deal with FmaTR.

There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.

Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110

It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.

He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.

You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.

I think that sometimes we shouldn't wait for real damage and accidents to take measurements but we can prevent them from happening. Maybe ban is exaggerated but it will be optimal if DT members leave a negative or neutral feedback. I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.

What you did is very shameful and rude. Do you have any proof about me? NO. You're slandering me by calling me a liar and a scammer. I am sure of myself. If you find someone I cheated or lied to, I will close my account and go. If you can't find it, can you do the same? Are you that sure of yourself?

Can you explain please how did the deal happen between you and your customers? How it comes that they registered account exclusively to leave a positive reply in your thread and leave a positive trust on your profile? And then they have never used those accounts?
Such a thing can happen once or twice but the frequency of that in your thread is extraordinary high.

If you prove that those feedbacks are real and your service is legit, I'll take my words back and even reward you! I promise!

Now I am sharing a screenshot of my conversations with the users mentioned here.

https://prnt.sc/Yamkp2NeQXnH

I bought a 1y Spotify subscription and absolutely recommend it! My BTC dropped in value a bit before I decided to send the payment but he still accepted it.

Very kind and helpful!

https://prnt.sc/GjKGiYhPx4Ph

Best seller!!! Very nice and kind. Excellent service

https://prnt.sc/92vg44Pkc8V4

Very fast, very clean. Can't ask for more! Thank you!

https://prnt.sc/0AK0c4r5fBhb

Working perfect
Fast response and reliable.

I will contact you again.

Thanks.

https://prnt.sc/NslTVYMlCmzx

Fast and very quick, thanks! Very reputable

https://prnt.sc/YsLhT4oTJ1cr

Very old feedback.

+rep got my turkey vcc for steam and it worked

Is that enough? My reward please

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Actually this means new user for our forum. I think it is useful for both me and the forum.

This forum has no benefit from a fake account that will only register and leave you positive feedback. It's just useless dust. Of course, no one will believe in false praise, you are free to stop such practice.

I repeat, I can serve 1-2 of our friends under this topic without any commission or extra charge.

Due to fake feedback, no one is interested in what you offer. As you can see, you only got a counter-effect with this method.

I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.

A totally wrong attitude. It is necessary to leave your feedback, regardless of the fact that it will not be visible at the beginning. In this way, the other members will be able to see your judgment and if it is good, it will eventually imply that others add you to their trust list.
Trusting you means that at some point your feedback will be visible.

Is that enough? My reward please

No, it's not enough. At least they are not screenshots from another platform here on the forum. A slightly more skilled designer can easily fake such things.
It would be good if you try to understand.

btw. You are from Turkey, I see that you had customers from Turkey, why do you negotiate in English? Why not in your native language?

[FmaTR]

Actually this means new user for our forum. I think it is useful for both me and the forum.

This forum has no benefit from a fake account that will only register and leave you positive feedback. It's just useless dust. Of course, no one will believe in false praise, you are free to stop such practice.

I repeat, I can serve 1-2 of our friends under this topic without any commission or extra charge.

Due to fake feedback, no one is interested in what you offer. As you can see, you only got a counter-effect with this method.

I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.

A totally wrong attitude. It is necessary to leave your feedback, regardless of the fact that it will not be visible at the beginning. In this way, the other members will be able to see your judgment and if it is good, it will eventually imply that others add you to their trust list.
Trusting you means that at some point your feedback will be visible.

Is that enough? My reward please

No, it's not enough. At least they are not screenshots from another platform here on the forum. A slightly more skilled designer can easily fake such things.
It would be good if you try to understand.

btw. You are from Turkey, I see that you had customers from Turkey, why do you negotiate in English? Why not in your native language?

Dude, do you know what I'm doing? I sell to EU and Asia with Turkish price. Of course I have to use English. I don't know if linking is allowed. My other profile: https://cracked.io/fma1453

https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH

Are all these feedback fake?

No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.

If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.

[icalical]

~

Dude, do you know what I'm doing? I sell to EU and Asia with Turkish price. Of course I have to use English. I don't know if linking is allowed. My other profile: https://cracked.io/fma1453

https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH

Are all these feedback fake?

No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.

If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.

Look, I think we don't really care that you have a really good reputation on the other site, it's good for you, and you can put that on your thread in this forum. The question here is, how is that most of the reviews on your thread in this forum is from account that has less than 10 Post/Activity. If you care to explain how that could happened, or just give a single good reasons people might actually believe you.

Sure you have the screenshot of how the transaction was going, it could be a legit transaction, I don't know, but why are your customers seems like they only make Bitcointalk account just to buy your service.