The funniest thing about your post is that you've picked out very little of what I said to try and invalidate what I'm saying, and still managed to fail miserably
Only in your little brain maybe, but you can think whatever you want.
You've done the exact same thing in your post again. It's not what's in my
little brain, it's what's visual to anyone viewing how you're creating your posts. You don't address where you're wrong, you misconstrue very particular parts of the post to make it look like you've debunked one of my comments...until I come back and response.
They're P2P exchanges that are decentralized.
You can't name a single example.
You're clearly looking through a hateful lens, this reply made 0 sense and shows you aren't reading my posts and/or doing what I described above.
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If you want to sell for fiat, use P2P. If you're still using CEXs for withdrawing, you're a pleb.
No, use your shitcoin exchanges for selling, you said they work with fiat, so use them if you can... don't mix P2P exchanges here.
I said some EVM DEXs have card gateways to buy crypto as well. I never said anything about withdrawing to bank - that's not what decentralized exchange protocols on EVMs are for. They're to provide an alternative to things like Binance trading.
Quote me where I said absolutely anything about being able to sell to bank or fiat at any point in regards to the DEXs I'm talking about.
And I mentioned P2P exchanges because if you want to sell, that's where you go. Not an EVM DEX.
^ What I was referring to were the exchanges you highlighted (Bisq, Peach bitcoin, Agoradesk, Hodlhodl etc)...They're P2P exchanges/marketplaces. Bisq probably being the most decentralized of p2p marketplaces/exchanges - Though the point was, they're not the kind of exchanges I was referring to - I was referring to EVM DEXs/decentralized crypto exchanges - being ones that are built for position management (not decentralized fiat<>crypto exchanging). Reading back on my post, that was pretty clear (when you read the whole sentence(s) and not the 6 words you snipped out of it.
I never called any of the exchanges I'm talking about top gun, so I don't know why you put that in quotes. I called them innovative, because in comparison to CEXs, they are innovative.
You used word TOP several times so don't pretend to be dumber than you are please.
You're acting as if I said "Top" like they are on top of every single exchange. The context I was referring to was that they are the top in their ecosystem. For example, GMX is one of the top EVM DEXs in the Arbitrum ecosystem (and, in the Layer 2 space). That's pretty clear when you read the full post.
Here's two posts where I mentioned "TOP" referring to Arbirtrum being the layer 2 ecosystem with the most TVL (fact) and most EVM DEXs only supporting top 10-50 currencies (fact)
If you're worried about liquidity of Arbitrum, it is the top layer 2 solution in terms of TVL (total value locked). In other words, it has more liquidity than all Ethereum-based solutions other than Ethereum itself. If you're worried about fees per trade, transaction fees are less than $0.01 generally and trading fees are generally more competitive than centralized exchanges. In terms of volume and trade data, most decentralized exchanges use Oracle data and AMMs (automated market makers) to ensure prices have no slippage (just like Binance do, by the way. What you see is AMMs not 100℅ real trading volume by real traders).
Arbitrum have a directory of Dex's on their website. I recommend you go check it out, give them a try and report back your results so others can take note of this alternative.
This is only available for shitcoins and they don't support fiat currencies, so this is more or less all worthless crap.
LOL. Majority of the DEXs only support top 50 currencies, some just the top 10. If you're referring to wrapped tokens are shitcoins, they're completely liquid and bridgeable with no slippage from the layer 2 chain, to ethereum or even the Bitcoin blockchain.
I'm not pretending to be dumb, nor am I. From a third party perspective who has blockchain knowledge, I'm really not concerned and not at all insecure about who looks dumb and who doesn't in this chain of posts.
I'm not promoting them, and you're not a mod, so kindly fuck off
There it is now, showing your true shit-face of an asshole
Feel free to continue with personal insults, that is one thing shitcoiners are usually good at, and yes you are promoting shitcoins with your posts.
Telling you to kindly fuck off for trying to be a moderator is really does not render me as "true shit-face of an asshole". Telling you to "stfu lol" after some shitpostin such as telling me that Bitcoin has no likelihood of scam even when you aren't doing any due diligence:
Yes, I agree, no due diligence = likelihood of scam. Is that not the case in Bitcoin too?
No it's not.
So I can trust everything in the bitcoin ecosystem with no chance of loss?
Stfu lol.
Also doesn't render me that (in my eyes anyway, felt warranted to both laugh and tell you to stfu after that post)
but I can understand your feelings considering how burned you've gotten throughout this entire chain and the strategies that you're resorting to in order to not be seen as unintelligent, argumentative, irrational and not at all knowledgeable outside of the sphere of Bitcoin.
At no point in this thread, or any other thread where I've talked about EVMs and Layer 2s, have I ever promoted a shitcoin (according to my definition). Since your definition is that everything other than BTC is a shitcoin, then sure. I, and many others who aren't in your bubble, are considered shitcoin promoters (to you, which is very very far from majority/consensus).
These tokens aren't claiming to be Bitcoin. They provide a peg to Bitcoin, so that you can use EVM capability/utility, as you can't do the same things with Bitcoin. They are not garbage, they are legitimate, they are liquid. That's factual, not opinion...the blockchain proves that.
Another shitcoin promotion that is not based on actual facts.
It is based on facts. Bridging, web3, Ethereum, layer2's and their volume, usage and development on open-source platforms like Github, are the proof. If you're really trying to trick people into thinking that these ecosystems simply don't exist, who are you actually trying to fool at this point?
I run nodes for both lol. It's a little bit more difficult than BTC to setup, but not so much harder that it would create some sort of exclusivity barrier.
Yeah sure, you run nodes
I won't continue this oftopic conversation, so do don't expect me to answer anything on all of your future posts.
Adios.
It really does not take a genius to run an Ethereum, polygon, arbitrum, or any layer 2 node. It's pretty much elementary to use your own full node if you're using these chains as well, for the sake of increasing privacy and retaining your data.
The off-topic conversation was fueled by yourself and your clear lack of education about the blockchain innovations that are happening outside of Bitcoin. I'm happy to keep burning you (I'm sure outsiders who have the same/vaster knowledge of non-btc blockchains are smiling) but I'm also happy to stop wasting time here
Nice talking with you and good to see your true colors!
