Before contributing, learn from others as a newbie

[Forever101]

With my observation, many newbie are merit conscious to the point of posting low quality posts not because they are not good but because they are rushing to see people start giving them merit. Learning is key to knowledge and the path to success.

If I have not join this forum and learn about Cryptocurrency in detail. I never knew there is a big difference between bitcoins and the shitcoins. I once thought one can invest in any of them and wait for profit not knowing that shitcoins can hit the rock at any moment and vanish into the air.

It's a good idea, if we learn first before thinking of contributing, that will help us understand better and help others. As I speak, I am still learning and trying to know more. 

If you come across posts you are not acquainted with, learn from the posts and the replies, it isn't a must for you to write something that will end up annoying others or see you as spammer.

Learning first, build our experience.  Your motor as a newbie should be learn first and every other things will follow and be added unto you.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

You write a topic and want to say other newbies don't teach but should learn first because from learning, they will have better contributions.
Does it contradict with what you want to say?

Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn.

[BD Crypto]

It's a good idea, if we learn first before thinking of contributing, that will help us understand better and help others. As I speak, I am still learning and trying to know more.  

This is a very common topic discuss and already this topic has been discussed a tons of time in this forum.
I am suggesting you that before posting anything never rush to do that and realize about it's acceptability and share something unique. In every sector in the life no one can contribute without learning first. We had learned also about how to walk.

But the discussion topic should be about how you can learn from this forum.

1. Read Forum topics and others opinion and specially merited posts.
2. Use search option to find out your topic what you want to learn. If you can't find it then make a post with proper information in this Board.
3. You can track some most contributing forum users and their posts to learn more effectively.
4. Visit the correct board where you will see your desired topics. Like if you want to know more about this forum then oftenly visit Meta board. To learn or discuss about trading then visit Trading Discussion and there also have gambling related discussion board. In these way you can learn a lot and start contributing.

Anyway Never Stop Learning.

[CryptSafe]

Sometimes I wonder too because most of the post I have seen from newbies are just as you have described here. There is even one I saw the last time a newbie advising members on how to make post when he or she is  writing as a newbie and I asked if the newbie had take his or her to learn from other members ahead of he or she. It is very funny though but it is better ignored than wasting your time because they do not hid to advise.  They don't want to learn but are quick to give advise with their newbie rank.

[Zaguru12]

Sometimes I wonder too because most of the post I have seen from newbies are just as you have described here. There is even one I saw the last time a newbie advising members on how to make post when he or she is  writing as a newbie and I asked if the newbie had take his or her to learn from other members ahead of he or she. It is very funny though but it is better ignored than wasting your time because they do not hid to advise.  They don't want to learn but are quick to give advise with their newbie rank.

There absolutely nothing wrong in newbies teaching a thing or two, because it is widely accepted that most have gained knowledge be before joining up in the forum. There series of meaningful threads that can be helpful to the community and are created by newbies, it is possible he might caught the whole idea or gain the knowledge through the process of his learning and decides to share with the community.
What is actually awkward is when a newbie create a thread without substantial information or there are mis information on it, this is as a result of eagerness just to teach or create threads with out having proper knowledge of the subject it’s self.

When newbies do this things it is clearly seen that they are after merit. And it is has been long advices that merit isn’t gotten alone by creating threads, you can have as many merit as they could give once you are able to make quality replies. Creating multiple threads without having any meaning only gets you into some members (mostly merit source) ignore list

[Porfirii]

Although (as other said) this topic is recurrent in this subsection of the forum, I don't think it is wrong to repeat the same over and over because most newbies start their journey here and this is a good reminder worth to be always visible in Beginners & Help.

On the other hand, I agree that newbies should learn before pretending that they have knowledge to share with the community here, but I don't think there is nothing wrong with their active participation: maybe not focused on merits, but they must start earning activity points also, so questions on topic should be always welcome. And they generate traffic, which is also great for the forum.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Yes, buddy. I remember you and see that you have risen in rank somewhat. Of course, you already have some experience, and I think that newcomers should listen to their own kind, who recently came to the forum but quickly understood how to behave here. Seeing leadership from high ranks, some give up, realizing that it is more difficult for them to go all this way, but looking at others as themselves, motivation becomes greater.
That's right, you should not go out of your way when someone does not have the necessary knowledge. Slowly but surely, a purposeful person will always be able to achieve his goals.

[Upgrade00]

The topic title and following text are generic and have been repeated on the forum a number of times. But despite that people tend to not follow that advice and stick to posting for the sake of it without any understanding of the topic the are discussing and no willingness to learn.

We cannot shut down a suggestion if it's still a major problem on the forum. Just like the advice to switch to Dex which is made very commonly here; it remains relevant cause many users are still using centralized exchanges and worse, storing their funds in them.

[Helena Yu]

This is irony, you're advising a newbie for not guiding anyone when you're also the one who guiding them (the newbie).

There's no rule only for newbie, there's no rule only for full member rank, and at the same time there's no rule only for veteran user, there's only a general rule for every users. Just let it flow, it's up to everyone choice with the intention they create an account in this forum.

[pakhitheboss]

We cannot shut down a suggestion if it's still a major problem on the forum. Just like the advice to switch to Dex which is made very commonly here; it remains relevant cause many users are still using centralized exchanges and worse, storing their funds in them.

The forum is always open for suggestions repeating the same thing in different ways is kind of irritating . Using a centralized exchange is not the issue but a choice. Storing funds on a CEX is a concern whn the forum has been continuously discussing about the cons. This proble will continue unless one of them lose funds and comes here for a solution. The problem is unless shit happens with someone personally they are least bothered.

[Upgrade00]

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The point I am trying to make is they we should not shut down all newbies for given generic posts and responses. A lot of the are created for the sake of merit hunting, but it has become so convenient for older users to shut down newer members who are obviously in their learning stage and things we have known for a long time are new knowledge to them.

That culture wilm discourage many honest newbies from posting on the forum.

[robelneo]

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The point I am trying to make is they we should not shut down all newbies for given generic posts and responses. A lot of the are created for the sake of merit hunting, but it has become so convenient for older users to shut down newer members who are obviously in their learning stage and things we have known for a long time are new knowledge to them.

That culture wilm discourage many honest newbies from posting on the forum.

Except for services and products being offered by newbies that don't guarantee the security and protection of buyers and as long as newbies are not posting about forums rules, I'm ok and encouraging newbies on subjects they already know, there are instances that there are newbies who know more than we are on various subjects about Cryptocurrency, and the fact that we can open another account here, we cannot consider newbies that just sign up here have zero knowledge and they are going to learn everything here.
Let's encourage newbies as long as they want to participate in the discussion and if they deserve merits then by all means send one to encourage them.

[Luzin]

The point I am trying to make is they we should not shut down all newbies for given generic posts and responses. A lot of the are created for the sake of merit hunting, but it has become so convenient for older users to shut down newer members who are obviously in their learning stage and things we have known for a long time are new knowledge to them.

That culture wilm discourage many honest newbies from posting on the forum.

One must know how these forums develop because of their users or members. Every day I think there will always be new newbies signing up. Although I don't really understand it, he is a real beginner or a rookie who has an old account.
Turning off new accounts will certainly make this forum will not develop. So in fact I don't need a new account, because the new account is a growth in the number of users. As long as they continue to abide by the existing rules, it is certainly good. But if it harms some moderators here have the right to ban it. We can even create an open report.

[Doan9269]

With my observation, many newbie are merit conscious to the point of posting low quality posts not because they are not good but because they are rushing to see people start giving them merit.

It's something that's common for you to see people easily getting attracted to flashy things of which merit is one of the most hunted for as long as a newbie discover about the system except for few who don't mind or care in that regard, if i want to introduce the forum to a newbie, i will not start by telling them about the merits system, i will rather go ahead to let them understand bitcoin and get established being active before introducing them to how they can grow in ranks as long as they remain active on the forum and have the determination for learning and growth, some things are not best introduced to newbies when they are yet to be predicted, such may just distract them from being focused.

If I have not join this forum and learn about Cryptocurrency in detail. I never knew there is a big difference between bitcoins and the shitcoins.

Don't conclude that every other cryptocurrencies aside bitcoin are shitcoins, there are reputable ones amidst them, while some are not.

I once thought one can invest in any of them and wait for profit not knowing that shitcoins can hit the rock at any moment and vanish into the air.

Some cryptocurrencies have been existing a decade now and still counting because of the developers that created the coins, some investors have made alot of profitability with some of these altcoins in time past, what we lack is proper research on a crypto project, maybe henceforth now you begin to call other cryptocurrencies altcoins and not shitcoins because not all of them resulted to scam.

[Hyphen(-)]

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The point I am trying to make is they we should not shut down all newbies for given generic posts and responses. A lot of the are created for the sake of merit hunting, but it has become so convenient for older users to shut down newer members who are obviously in their learning stage and things we have known for a long time are new knowledge to them.

That culture wilm discourage many honest newbies from posting on the forum.

Exactly!

I didn't see anything wrong with a newbie posting something that appears to be advice or teaching other forum users on something, even though we know they are supposed to be learning from senior colleagues, they also have the right to share their thoughts, and sometimes some of the newbies do share something very meaningful and useful to the forum not just for merit but for passion.

Aside from that, the OP was expressing himself/herself based on what he/she has observed in the forum thus far, which is fine provided the clarifications he/she shared are valuable to fellow newbies.

[CryptSafe]

Sometimes I wonder too because most of the post I have seen from newbies are just as you have described here. There is even one I saw the last time a newbie advising members on how to make post when he or she is  writing as a newbie and I asked if the newbie had take his or her to learn from other members ahead of he or she. It is very funny though but it is better ignored than wasting your time because they do not hid to advise.  They don't want to learn but are quick to give advise with their newbie rank.

There absolutely nothing wrong in newbies teaching a thing or two, because it is widely accepted that most have gained knowledge be before joining up in the forum. There series of meaningful threads that can be helpful to the community and are created by newbies, it is possible he might caught the whole idea or gain the knowledge through the process of his learning and decides to share with the community.
What is actually awkward is when a newbie create a thread without substantial information or there are mis information on it, this is as a result of eagerness just to teach or create threads with out having proper knowledge of the subject it’s self.

When newbies do this things it is clearly seen that they are after merit. And it is has been long advices that merit isn’t gotten alone by creating threads, you can have as many merit as they could give once you are able to make quality replies. Creating multiple threads without having any meaning only gets you into some members (mostly merit source) ignore list

I am not saying that all newbies are like that but just for some few that are desperate and are probably not in know of how things works here but are just quick to start exposing themselves without any learning and asking questions to clear their doubts. For those communicating new ideas and knowledge I presume they are already in the know of the platform. Possibly, they must have had an issue with their account which might have resulted to them losing it or they have the newbie as alt. So I would not be surprised if they make tangible and meaningful contributions through comments and post here.

[Findingnemo]

That culture wilm discourage many honest newbies from posting on the forum.

Actually the culture is changing and essense of forum is lost to some level cause most members forgot the purpose of forum and their only goal is to make quality posts meanwhile we to know the discussions, they just read the topic title and first post then go for creating their own posts which is one of the indication is they are pushing for sake of getting merits only. As a community, it's crucial to remind ourselves of the true purpose of the forum. It should serve as a hub for knowledge sharing, idea exchange, and constructive feedback..

[kamvreto]

That culture wilm discourage many honest newbies from posting on the forum.

Actually the culture is changing and essense of forum is lost to some level cause most members forgot the purpose of forum and their only goal is to make quality posts meanwhile we to know the discussions, they just read the topic title and first post then go for creating their own posts which is one of the indication is they are pushing for sake of getting merits only. As a community, it's crucial to remind ourselves of the true purpose of the forum. It should serve as a hub for knowledge sharing, idea exchange, and constructive feedback..

Most are like that. Post or reply to comments and then leave, no longer joining the discussion. Even though always being involved in the same discussion can provide a solution to the problem being discussed. I am happy when I have to join the discussion and start to understand what the purpose of the thread being discussed is. when a discussion results in solving a problem, the purpose of the discussion has been achieved. There are lots of threads created and then abandoned, it just gets trashed on the forums.

[Davidvictorson]

With my observation, many newbie are merit conscious to the point of posting low quality posts not because they are not good but because they are rushing to see people start giving them merit. Learning is key to knowledge and the path to success.

This is where the confusion, frustration, depression emanates from for most newbie. Merits. They want it and want it at all cost that they sacrifice quality for quantity(spam) and end up on the ignore list of some users or are tagged as shit posters.

If I have not join this forum and learn about Cryptocurrency in detail. I never knew there is a big difference between bitcoins and the shitcoins. I once thought one can invest in any of them and wait for profit not knowing that shitcoins can hit the rock at any moment and vanish into the air.

Yeah, I think shitcoins is called altcoin outside there. But there are people who were early who became millionaires from altcoins. There is a popular crypto influencer on Twitter, i think the name is altcoin Gordon. Who even on his YouTube has over 1 million followers. One thing we must acknowledge is that these altcoins can also make you money through other means as well.

Learning first, build our experience.  Your motor as a newbie should be learn first and every other things will follow and be added unto you.

The message is to everyone of all ranks learn not just for the forum but to stay relevant in the bitcoin community whether it is online or offline.

[Ojima-ojo]

It's the fact because as a newbie,  one needs to read more and write less this doesn't mean you will limit your activities to reading alone but also you need to communicate like asking a question or providing answers to other newbies' questions if you are well learned enough about the topic you want to contribute to.


More also we have to know that not all newbies in the forum are newbies to cryptocurrency and at that some time someone can be a newbie in forum rank but be a pro in Bitcoin both in knowledge and experience,  so when you say newbies it doesn't have to do mainly by forum rank but also the experience and knowledge that the individual carries is what really matters.