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August 08, 2023, 07:34:06 AM
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Personally, to prevent myself from becoming addicted to gambling, I usually set up money to use for gambling and only gamble on weekends. I also think that gambling is only for entertainment, not to make it a job to earn money. Indeed, for some people this method is quite difficult, but I have tried this method and so far I have been able to control my desire to gamble and not get addicted to it.
That's good, it means that you have succeeded in having limits in gambling and you are a winner in gambling because the true winners in gambling are not those who manage to have the jackpot or maxwin but those who are able to control themselves and also stick to what has been done. set as limits when gambling.
But you are right that not everyone can do this and it is really difficult to be able to control yourself to avoid gambling addiction.

There are lots of threads and feedback here on how to stop or avoid gambling addiction but I don't care about all of that because the most effective is intention, will and sincerity in stopping or avoiding gambling addiction.

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August 08, 2023, 10:30:06 AM
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I think in gambling there is nothing to worry about other than losing money, because that is their main problem and ours as gamblers. Well for that I agree, because there is only one thing we can do which is a strong self-control factor. If we cannot exercise this self-control then it is certain that defeat will continue to accompany us unless luck is on our side. I have always said this before to anyone including my colleagues, in my opinion quitting gambling is very difficult and almost impossible. When someone already has the intention to stop then they will always face temptations that are difficult for them to pass, and also the feeling of winning always appears in their minds, I have felt this and until now I still can't if I have to stop completely, but to increase the rest time I can do it. The point is that it is actually possible if someone wants to stop completely but it takes a long time, the first thing to do in my opinion is to stay away from the gambling environment, increase activities in our daily lives by, for example, adding part-time jobs and not letting our minds remember anything about gambling, everything needs a process but believe me you can do it.
The biggest problem gamblers have to face is gambling addiction which can come at any time and losing money is normal. But with self-control, I think we can anticipate losing a lot of money because we can stop gambling before the money runs out or even before it runs out. With self-control, a person can stop gambling whenever he wants and no significant problem exists. They also must resist the temptation that keeps coming to them when they want to stop gambling because they really intend to stop it. And if they have other activities, it really helps them to stop gambling so they will remember to do other things and not just play gambling. So to stop quitting, we need self-control and a strong desire to avoid losing money.

It's actually very simple if one has a strong intention to quit, as I said before there is only one thing that can help us and that is self-control. There is no enemy in gambling except ourselves, our normal mind clearly does not want if we lose money but our lust continues to tempt with the lure of big wins there, so all the decisions are actually in ourselves. Previously I also said that a person's personality also has a big influence here, for example that person is easily provoked and easily emotional then they will not think twice to spend everything for their own satisfaction. So actually whatever advice or input from other people towards them is not entirely influential, especially for those who have an easily provoked personality.
But it will come back again, if indeed their intention is strong it could be because there is no one who prevents them in this case except their own lust.

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August 08, 2023, 12:14:25 PM
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In the event of recovering the lost funds the person continues to wager and some gets lucky whereas the majority gets into addiction and the self-controlled ones stay active as they know well about their limits and have understood the complications of going behind the loss and looking for wins.
That's when emotion is startled. We want to recover because we think that it's very easy to do it and then we encounter the reality that it's not. The more that we're wanting to recover and even if we want to quit, we just can't because it's stuck in our minds on how much we've already lost and it's such a total waste if we can't recover a bit of it but still, it ends up badly.
The process of recovering the money in gambling is usually leading you in way that you could even lose more. That is not going to be easy at all and a lot of people will end up losing money if they are not careful with it. If you do not care what's going to happen then you are going to end up with a terrible return and the result will not be simple at all.

I understand that some people chase their loss and that is something I try to avoid, I understand the logic, they feel like their luck will turn eventually, but if it doesn't that means you are going to lose some money and then lose some more. That is not a good way to gamble at all and should be avoided as much as possible. That is how you could avoid these things if possible by all means.

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August 08, 2023, 12:29:26 PM
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Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:
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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed
Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

Haven engage in all the practices in doing this does not change or influence anything different from what we have to say here whereby the same targeted gambler does not yield a change after adopting all the needed and necessary steps to curb gambling for quit, what else can one do?

Some have seen this kind of gambling challenge as a very common one in which most people outside gambling also finds it difficult to quit what they have made up their mind to stop or put an end to, in situations like this, they needed an extensive approach to tackle what they are facing which may requires some process.



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August 08, 2023, 12:32:02 PM
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I understand that some people chase their loss and that is something I try to avoid, I understand the logic, they feel like their luck will turn eventually, but if it doesn't that means you are going to lose some money and then lose some more. That is not a good way to gamble at all and should be avoided as much as possible. That is how you could avoid these things if possible by all means.
Every gambler has their own luck and it's true even though you've suffer 5-10 lose streaks, there's will be a turn you will win. But winning on few bets aren't enough to recover all the previous losses and if you keep trying to recover your losses, it's impossible since the game you play has a house edge.

There's no strategy or calculation you can beat the house, but there's only little chance to beat the house.

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August 08, 2023, 12:36:29 PM
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I found that talking with someone whom you trust and also willing to listen is some kind of treasure that you can't buy with money. Because they are willing to advise and give you real suggestions, especially when it comes to your own good. remember, a real best friend won't pretend in front of you and will talk straight to you about anything that can heal you even though it's hard to take. But if you know someone that is an expert when it comes to handling this kind of problem then go to him and express your situation because mostly they can help you out once they know exactly about your situation.

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August 08, 2023, 07:43:22 PM
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A gambler makes mistakes only when he becomes hopeful of making something from gambling. That is, he depends on gambling to fulfill some of his dreams in life. But gamblers forget that there is no guarantee of winning rather of losing. What most of the gambler mean by success in gambling is getting more wins or the amount of winnings in a short period of time. Success in gambling generally does not depend on long or short periods of gambling. Since luck plays a major role in gambling so every one should not think it as their main goal.
The mistake will be repeated if there is no awareness from him that gambling does not guarantee that someone can succeed and get a lot of money. He can only play gambling as usual without hoping to win big. If he hopes too much, he can be disappointed later because his expectations will not match reality. A successful gambler is a gambler who can use his time to gamble well and if he gets a win, he can stop immediately without expecting another win because he knows that gambling cannot give too frequent wins. He would choose to quit while he was already winning so he could use his winnings to celebrate.
Well, one can barely celebrate a win unless it's too significant, because small or medium size wins generally go into the recovery of your previously lost money you obviously can't win every single day in gambling, so if you have been losing throughout the week and get some win after all that, you can just consider that a small recovery of your lost funds and keep it so that you can use it on something or maybe on your future gambling activities.

But, as you said, there are only a few people who know how they can cash such moments because they tend to stop immediately after getting a good percentage of wins for that specific session, and they come the next day or next week with another budget that they have decided for their gambling.

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August 08, 2023, 08:41:46 PM
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I found that talking with someone whom you trust and also willing to listen is some kind of treasure that you can't buy with money. Because they are willing to advise and give you real suggestions, especially when it comes to your own good. remember, a real best friend won't pretend in front of you and will talk straight to you about anything that can heal you even though it's hard to take. But if you know someone that is an expert when it comes to handling this kind of problem then go to him and express your situation because mostly they can help you out once they know exactly about your situation.
We face challenges of the real life, we either solved or run away from it, our decision to take. We know the right thing to do at all times, most of the gamblers are just ignorant and doesn't seem to recognized the solid gambling strategy to follow. It's rare to find out the real friends these days, specifically the ones that would give us good advices that would lead on the right track. Gambling is meant for recreational activities, what we do for fun, but most of us take it to the wrong aspect, gambling as a means of income, really bad to acknowledge that.

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August 08, 2023, 09:50:45 PM
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Apart from the gambling budget it is also important to allocate a limited amount of time for your gambling activities. By setting a time limit, you can ensure that you don't spend excessive amounts of time gambling and prioritize other important aspects of your life.

Also Avoid chasing losses cause it is the beginning stage of getting addicted to gambling and Don't Use Gambling as an Escape from any of your problems especially when it related to your financial status.
Another thing that helps is good decision making , some people find it very difficult to make decisions.  An addict who really want to reduce the playing of gambling and the person has problems in making decisions may likely go back to his/her normal of playing gambling.  Knowing how to make decisions helps in not going back no matter how hard it maybe to abstain from gambling.  Keeping to decisions is everything in a man's life.

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Apart from the gambling budget it is also important to allocate a limited amount of time for your gambling activities. By setting a time limit, you can ensure that you don't spend excessive amounts of time gambling and prioritize other important aspects of your life.

Also Avoid chasing losses cause it is the beginning stage of getting addicted to gambling and Don't Use Gambling as an Escape from any of your problems especially when it related to your financial status.
Another thing that helps is good decision making , some people find it very difficult to make decisions.  An addict who really want to reduce the playing of gambling and the person has problems in making decisions may likely go back to his/her normal of playing gambling.  Knowing how to make decisions helps in not going back no matter how hard it maybe to abstain from gambling.  Keeping to decisions is everything in a man's life.
And there are others that have huge problems sticking with their decisions as they begin to second guess themselves as soon as they take a decision, and that kind of person will find it very difficult to stop gambling, because as soon as they do it then they will miss gambling so much that it will not take long for them to go back on their word and begin gambling again, and if this happens to them several times then they may get convinced that quitting gambling is something that is not possible for them.
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August 09, 2023, 03:24:57 AM
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Apart from the gambling budget it is also important to allocate a limited amount of time for your gambling activities. By setting a time limit, you can ensure that you don't spend excessive amounts of time gambling and prioritize other important aspects of your life.

Also Avoid chasing losses cause it is the beginning stage of getting addicted to gambling and Don't Use Gambling as an Escape from any of your problems especially when it related to your financial status.
Another thing that helps is good decision making , some people find it very difficult to make decisions.  An addict who really want to reduce the playing of gambling and the person has problems in making decisions may likely go back to his/her normal of playing gambling.  Knowing how to make decisions helps in not going back no matter how hard it maybe to abstain from gambling.  Keeping to decisions is everything in a man's life.
And there are others that have huge problems sticking with their decisions as they begin to second guess themselves as soon as they take a decision, and that kind of person will find it very difficult to stop gambling, because as soon as they do it then they will miss gambling so much that it will not take long for them to go back on their word and begin gambling again, and if this happens to them several times then they may get convinced that quitting gambling is something that is not possible for them.

They just don't miss it; they're really shaking to play again, or really the urge is huge to gamble. It is also the same with other addictions that people are shaking if they don't do those things that they want to; it is some sort of medicine to them that makes them worse, and mostly wealthy people are just good at their saying but poor at their decision-making, like when they say that it is really their last game or they won't gamble anymore, but later on they will decide to play again, which is really not a good choice.
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August 09, 2023, 05:24:05 AM
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It's actually very simple if one has a strong intention to quit, as I said before there is only one thing that can help us and that is self-control. There is no enemy in gambling except ourselves, our normal mind clearly does not want if we lose money but our lust continues to tempt with the lure of big wins there, so all the decisions are actually in ourselves. Previously I also said that a person's personality also has a big influence here, for example that person is easily provoked and easily emotional then they will not think twice to spend everything for their own satisfaction. So actually whatever advice or input from other people towards them is not entirely influential, especially for those who have an easily provoked personality.
But it will come back again, if indeed their intention is strong it could be because there is no one who prevents them in this case except their own lust.
True, only self-control can help people stop gambling or reduce gambling activities. But even if they realize it, they don't do it immediately and think they will do it later. This is what makes us continue to be controlled by the desire to continue playing and it seems that this desire will continue to exist with the gambler, which keeps him gambling. Lust knows how to tempt us to keep gambling and he will continue to be provoked to try to chase his victory even though he has already won. But because his emotions were very strong because it was provoked, he couldn't stop immediately and that's where his self-control couldn't help anything. So the intention to stop gambling can indeed stop them from gambling.

Well, one can barely celebrate a win unless it's too significant, because small or medium size wins generally go into the recovery of your previously lost money you obviously can't win every single day in gambling, so if you have been losing throughout the week and get some win after all that, you can just consider that a small recovery of your lost funds and keep it so that you can use it on something or maybe on your future gambling activities.

But, as you said, there are only a few people who know how they can cash such moments because they tend to stop immediately after getting a good percentage of wins for that specific session, and they come the next day or next week with another budget that they have decided for their gambling.
I agree with you because I often use small wins to get another big one. But that didn't match what I had imagined because it was precisely using the small wins that made me keep playing until I spent all the small winnings. But there are also times when I just keep the small winnings for a few days as my capital to play gambling so I don't have to deposit another amount of money to gamble again. And it has helped me reduce my gambling budget because of those small wins. But another day, I managed to get a rather big win so I could decide to withdraw the money and leave some money for gambling capital another day.

If you manage to win a big win, you must immediately withdraw the winnings and leave some money for capital. Don't keep that big winning money for too long because it can make you use it for gambling because, with that big capital, you will think about making a rather bigger bet than usual to be able to win another big win.

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August 09, 2023, 06:00:54 PM
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It's actually very simple if one has a strong intention to quit, as I said before there is only one thing that can help us and that is self-control. There is no enemy in gambling except ourselves, our normal mind clearly does not want if we lose money but our lust continues to tempt with the lure of big wins there, so all the decisions are actually in ourselves. Previously I also said that a person's personality also has a big influence here, for example that person is easily provoked and easily emotional then they will not think twice to spend everything for their own satisfaction. So actually whatever advice or input from other people towards them is not entirely influential, especially for those who have an easily provoked personality.
But it will come back again, if indeed their intention is strong it could be because there is no one who prevents them in this case except their own lust.
True, only self-control can help people stop gambling or reduce gambling activities. But even if they realize it, they don't do it immediately and think they will do it later. This is what makes us continue to be controlled by the desire to continue playing and it seems that this desire will continue to exist with the gambler, which keeps him gambling. Lust knows how to tempt us to keep gambling and he will continue to be provoked to try to chase his victory even though he has already won. But because his emotions were very strong because it was provoked, he couldn't stop immediately and that's where his self-control couldn't help anything. So the intention to stop gambling can indeed stop them from gambling.

And I'm not going to talk about other people in this case, before I want to ask first, have you ever had the thought of continuing to play in order to pursue victory or restore defeat? I have, but it goes back to whether we are able to control it or not.
"Let's try again, let's try again" Lol, I've felt it but I can suppress it and return to logical thinking, so that I can prevent losing more than I lost in the past.
Oh yes, additionally, intention alone is not enough either, because it must be with action.

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August 10, 2023, 04:31:32 AM
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And I'm not going to talk about other people in this case, before I want to ask first, have you ever had the thought of continuing to play in order to pursue victory or restore defeat? I have, but it goes back to whether we are able to control it or not.
"Let's try again, let's try again" Lol, I've felt it but I can suppress it and return to logical thinking, so that I can prevent losing more than I lost in the past.
Oh yes, additionally, intention alone is not enough either, because it must be with action.
Yes, I once thought about continuing to play and chasing wins even to recover losses but I failed to get it and lost a lot. I'm still trying to control it because once or twice I still come back after losing Grin

And I think it's normal if there is a desire to return to gambling after losing, let alone losing, streaks. But as long as we can control ourselves and know that chasing wins or recovering losses is not easy, we can stop for a moment and rest. Intentions and actions are what we must have and learn to do so.

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August 10, 2023, 11:40:05 AM
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And I'm not going to talk about other people in this case, before I want to ask first, have you ever had the thought of continuing to play in order to pursue victory or restore defeat? I have, but it goes back to whether we are able to control it or not.
"Let's try again, let's try again" Lol, I've felt it but I can suppress it and return to logical thinking, so that I can prevent losing more than I lost in the past.
Oh yes, additionally, intention alone is not enough either, because it must be with action.
Yes, I once thought about continuing to play and chasing wins even to recover losses but I failed to get it and lost a lot. I'm still trying to control it because once or twice I still come back after losing Grin

And I think it's normal if there is a desire to return to gambling after losing, let alone losing, streaks. But as long as we can control ourselves and know that chasing wins or recovering losses is not easy, we can stop for a moment and rest. Intentions and actions are what we must have and learn to do so.
And from that experience and feeling, we can become a better gambler, right? Sometimes we have to feel it first before we can say this. Or even have to feel the defeat that makes our balance drained to form a good mindset and self-control.
It doesn't matter about that, because it is natural and what is unnatural is when the feeling comes we continue to follow it, and it will be very bad when it comes many times but we also follow it continuously. That means we don't learn from experience.
I have my own way for this, so that when the feeling comes we can't follow it, which is by not holding the balance in the wallet or whatever it is, or also we can delete mbanking if we use it.

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August 11, 2023, 06:57:06 AM
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And from that experience and feeling, we can become a better gambler, right? Sometimes we have to feel it first before we can say this. Or even have to feel the defeat that makes our balance drained to form a good mindset and self-control.
It doesn't matter about that, because it is natural and what is unnatural is when the feeling comes we continue to follow it, and it will be very bad when it comes many times but we also follow it continuously. That means we don't learn from experience.
I have my own way for this, so that when the feeling comes we can't follow it, which is by not holding the balance in the wallet or whatever it is, or also we can delete mbanking if we use it.
We can become better gamblers by learning everything necessary to keep the balance and not develop a gambling addiction. After experiencing loss many times, we should think about why it happened to us so we can start anticipating it by learning what it takes. Previous experience has taught us what needs to be improved so that we can become better gamblers than before so that we only use gambling as entertainment and nothing more. By learning that, we hope to be wiser in playing gambling and not necessarily have to spend all of our money at one time gambling. The method you did can be tried, which means we limit the amount of deposits that are not excessive so that once the money runs out, we have to get out of the casino.

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August 11, 2023, 07:15:47 AM
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I found that talking with someone whom you trust and also willing to listen is some kind of treasure that you can't buy with money. Because they are willing to advise and give you real suggestions, especially when it comes to your own good. remember, a real best friend won't pretend in front of you and will talk straight to you about anything that can heal you even though it's hard to take. But if you know someone that is an expert when it comes to handling this kind of problem then go to him and express your situation because mostly they can help you out once they know exactly about your situation.
We face challenges of the real life, we either solved or run away from it, our decision to take. We know the right thing to do at all times, most of the gamblers are just ignorant and doesn't seem to recognized the solid gambling strategy to follow. It's rare to find out the real friends these days, specifically the ones that would give us good advices that would lead on the right track. Gambling is meant for recreational activities, what we do for fun, but most of us take it to the wrong aspect, gambling as a means of income, really bad to acknowledge that.

In fact, you are wrong, because on the Internet there is a huge number of strangers who can help to survive the period of weaning from gambling, if you have a problem with gambling addiction. As I think even on the forum enough users who are happy to support a person who has fallen into a difficult life situation and decided to get out of it. The most important thing is to admit to yourself that you have a problem and want to fight it. A person can overcome any addiction, you just need to want to.

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August 11, 2023, 09:11:45 AM
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And I think it's normal if there is a desire to return to gambling after losing, let alone losing, streaks. But as long as we can control ourselves and know that chasing wins or recovering losses is not easy, we can stop for a moment and rest. Intentions and actions are what we must have and learn to do so.
yes, it's true, as a gambler I also feel that the desire to gamble again when losing is always there, but it depends on how we control it, for me personally I will not follow my emotions let alone the desire to beat the casino chasing the money that has run out before, just watch many people who do that in the end they are defeated over and over again.

Luckily I have control over my bets by limiting my budget for gambling, so when I reach my daily budget limit of course I will stop not caring about the feeling of wanting to play again with myself so I have to be diverted so I don't follow my emotions and try not to care about it, it's true that it's normal that feeling is there when we lose, but in the end everything returns to their respective intentions and their way of recording

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August 11, 2023, 11:20:49 AM
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In fact, you are wrong, because on the Internet there is a huge number of strangers who can help to survive the period of weaning from gambling, if you have a problem with gambling addiction. As I think even on the forum enough users who are happy to support a person who has fallen into a difficult life situation and decided to get out of it. The most important thing is to admit to yourself that you have a problem and want to fight it. A person can overcome any addiction, you just need to want to.
well, this is very important for anyone who wants to quit gambling after feeling very bad at gambling. anyone who often gambles after that can realize that he is very bad at gambling and has the desire to quit. Im sure the person has the potential to recover from gambling will be greater. because if someone is an addict or compulsive gambler who has a great desire to stop for reasons already realizing that his gambling activities are harming him it will be very easy to be helped out of gambling and die gambling forever.
so if you already have a strong desire to stop, you do not need to need someone closest to you to help cure your addiction, even strangers can be an alternative to help get quit the bad zone in gambling.

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August 11, 2023, 12:11:53 PM
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In fact, you are wrong, because on the Internet there is a huge number of strangers who can help to survive the period of weaning from gambling, if you have a problem with gambling addiction. As I think even on the forum enough users who are happy to support a person who has fallen into a difficult life situation and decided to get out of it. The most important thing is to admit to yourself that you have a problem and want to fight it. A person can overcome any addiction, you just need to want to.
well, this is very important for anyone who wants to quit gambling after feeling very bad at gambling. anyone who often gambles after that can realize that he is very bad at gambling and has the desire to quit. Im sure the person has the potential to recover from gambling will be greater. because if someone is an addict or compulsive gambler who has a great desire to stop for reasons already realizing that his gambling activities are harming him it will be very easy to be helped out of gambling and die gambling forever.
so if you already have a strong desire to stop, you do not need to need someone closest to you to help cure your addiction, even strangers can be an alternative to help get quit the bad zone in gambling.

But still, no matter if there is a person or none, it is still your own decision, and if that means that you'll stop, then do it and build a habit also. I know it is very difficult to stop gambling, but if ever you have that urge to stop for a reason, then that is where you start to try to quit. It may be in a slow and gradual way, but still, it is good progress, just like limiting your screen time in gambling. One of the tips is to divert your attention to others so that you'll forget gambling.
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