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July 17, 2023, 10:14:35 AM
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[OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

Please excuse me, but my English is not perfect Cheesy. Does it mean that the address I was sending money to is the real address owned by the scammer?

OKX [or OKEX] is an exchange, not a mixer. The wallet in reference, Tm1z...wx9r is their hotwallet.

The post you referred to was experimenting on the "mixer" theory in a sense that someone deposited funds to the hot wallet and "mix" it through internal transfer prior to being sent to the destination address, thus [in a strict sense of what a mixer do] obscuring the fund's origin because when someone check the inbound address from the recipient side it'll show the amount is coming from a hot wallet, or if they check from the sender's side, it'll show the fund was transferred to a hot wallet. Nonetheless, OKX will still keep a record of whose address sent what amount to their hot wallet, and this is what Potato Chips proposes to you.

Given that the address is proven to be OKX's, you can probably send an appeal to them to freeze the account. Though [also what Potato Chips proposed] the ID used for verification on that account won't necessarily be the true ID of the scammers as there are a lot of way to fake credentials.

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July 17, 2023, 02:08:40 PM
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I asked Idmining why I still couldn't withdraw money. Finally they responded:

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According to the latest government regulations, you must pay the tax before you can make a withdrawal. The system shows that there is $133812 in your account, and you need to deposit $13381.2 as the tax fee. Once the payment is successful, you can immediately withdraw $133812.

It is a crazy world where this site is still active and scammers are stealing money from new people.
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July 17, 2023, 04:44:29 PM
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Given that the address is proven to be OKX's, you can probably send an appeal to them to freeze the account.

I sent an appeal two days ago. I wonder what they respond.
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July 17, 2023, 05:53:17 PM
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I asked Idmining why I still couldn't withdraw money. Finally they responded:

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According to the latest government regulations, you must pay the tax before you can make a withdrawal. The system shows that there is $133812 in your account, and you need to deposit $13381.2 as the tax fee. Once the payment is successful, you can immediately withdraw $133812.

It is a crazy world where this site is still active and scammers are stealing money from new people.

If you still want to pursue this from their end, I'd suggest you tell them to deduct it from your current balance, that you're more than happy to get paid with Earning-After-Taxes [EAT], see what they'll responded.

Given that the address is proven to be OKX's, you can probably send an appeal to them to freeze the account.

I sent an appeal two days ago. I wonder what they respond.

Fair warning, they might will refuse to do so if they deemed your case is not strong enough.

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If you still want to pursue this from their end, I'd suggest you tell them to deduct it from your current balance, that you're more than happy to get paid with Earning-After-Taxes [EAT], see what they'll responded.

Haha Grin I wrote this on the support chat Cheesy
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Is there any way of finding the exchange of this address TFZHB2H7MuXXNruXvbvVKTSweaj2NxD6LP  Huh
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July 17, 2023, 10:58:12 PM
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Is there any way of finding the exchange of this address TFZHB2H7MuXXNruXvbvVKTSweaj2NxD6LP  Huh
After searching this address leads to many scam reports against idmining few months ago on scamwatcher[1], reddit[2], etc. There are also few comments who have the same experience with larger amount than yours, unfortunately.

[1] https://www.scamwatcher.com/scam/view/648482
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoScamBlacklist/comments/12jfnkv/idminingcom_a_big_scam_warning_to_all

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July 18, 2023, 12:58:26 AM
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[OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

Please excuse me, but my English is not perfect Cheesy. Does it mean that the address I was sending money to is the real address owned by the scammer?
Most likely yes, back to my previous question, did you see that all the output transactions from those different addresses were only forwarded to OKX hot wallet?

If you can confirm that, then try contacting OKX supports and hope they are more cooperative and take action soon.

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[OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

Please excuse me, but my English is not perfect Cheesy. Does it mean that the address I was sending money to is the real address owned by the scammer?
Most likely yes, back to my previous question, did you see that all the output transactions from those different addresses were only forwarded to OKX hot wallet?

I think not, I don't know how to determine which receiver is OKX hot wallet. Or maybe I understood you wrong. I compared these two USDT addresses:
TFZHB2H7MuXXNruXvbvVKTSweaj2NxD6LP and
TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R


Anyway, I wrote to OKX that one of the addresses is used by the scammer.
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July 18, 2023, 04:22:32 PM
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I don't know how to determine which receiver is OKX hot wallet. Or maybe I understood you wrong. I compared these two USDT addresses:
TFZHB2H7MuXXNruXvbvVKTSweaj2NxD6LP and
TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R


Anyway, I wrote to OKX that one of the addresses is used by the scammer.
This address TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R is tagged as Okex address on tronscan.org. Report it on OKX exchange providing your bitcointalk posts or other site posts with this address. You can provide screenshots(upload it on imgbb.com or talkimg.com and post the image url here) on the OP as well for more evidence for them to check.

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It is a crazy world where this site is still active and scammers are stealing money from new people.

Why are so surprised?
Did you file a complaint against the website operators for fraud with your local police or cybercrime?
Did you contact their hosting provider or domain name registrar and tell them how you've got scammed by that website?

Until a few do so nobody will take action since the one who can do something can't act on their own or don't know about it at all!

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It is a crazy world where this site is still active and scammers are stealing money from new people.

Why are so surprised?
Did you file a complaint against the website operators for fraud with your local police or cybercrime?
Did you contact their hosting provider or domain name registrar and tell them how you've got scammed by that website?

Until a few do so nobody will take action since the one who can do something can't act on their won or don't know about it at all!

I flooded Reddit with scam alerts. I filed reports to the FBI, UK Fraud Police, my local police, almost every antivirus scam form and, of course, to the hosting provider Cloudflare, scammers email provider. I got from them reports receiving confirmation by email. The worst is Cloudflare, they are doing nothing, so I filled a report also to ICANN. Two months have passed now and nothing happened. Maybe one thing is positive, their email provider took down scammers' mailboxes. Now they are sending emails from a private Gmail Cheesy
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I flooded Reddit with scam alerts. I filed reports to the FBI, UK Fraud Police, my local police, almost every antivirus scam form and, of course, to the hosting provider Cloudflare, scammers email provider. I got from them reports receiving confirmation by email. The worst is Cloudflare, they are doing nothing, so I filled a report also to ICANN. Two months have passed now and nothing happened. Maybe one thing is positive, their email provider took down scammers' mailboxes. Now they are sending emails from a private Gmail Cheesy

I didn't check their website up to few hours ago so I can't be sure if it's there before or they just recently put it there, but I think they're trying to counteract those wave of scam alert by placing a banner saying their withdrawal issue has been restored. [archived website].

As for the UK fraud police and no response from them, I think that's because idmining is not from UK. So it's not on their jurisdiction. I can't find their company license or their legal name on their website to prove their registration on UK's database --and most certainly I've checked under "idmining" and it returned zero-- but I am somewhat sure they are not headquartered in St. Vincent, UK, because that office building image itself is taken from the net.


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I flooded Reddit with scam alerts. I filed reports to the FBI, UK Fraud Police, my local police, almost every antivirus scam form and, of course, to the hosting provider Cloudflare, scammers email provider. I got from them reports receiving confirmation by email. The worst is Cloudflare, they are doing nothing, so I filled a report also to ICANN. Two months have passed now and nothing happened. Maybe one thing is positive, their email provider took down scammers' mailboxes. Now they are sending emails from a private Gmail Cheesy

I didn't check their website up to few hours ago so I can't be sure if it's there before or they just recently put it there, but I think they're trying to counteract those wave of scam alert by placing a banner saying their withdrawal issue has been restored. [archived website].

As for the UK fraud police and no response from them, I think that's because idmining is not from UK. So it's not on their jurisdiction. I can't find their company license or their legal name on their website to prove their registration on UK's database --and most certainly I've checked under "idmining" and it returned zero-- but I am somewhat sure they are not headquartered in St. Vincent, UK, because that office building image itself is taken from the net.


Yes, I agree they are counteracting. However, the withdrawal functionality doesn't work. When asked why, it's because I need to pay taxes first. Also, they are sending emails with the withdrawal issue restoration from the private Gmail mailbox idmining6@gmail.com:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/Zpivc.png

Regarding the company registration. When asked them in the chat, they said this is their company: UK’s government website. I think they appropriated this company name and have nothing in common with that company. Regarding the building in Glasgow - my friend lives in the UK and went to check their office. He found nothing interesting there. It's a fake office location. Was the office picture taken from internet? It seems so, here is their "headquarters" in Gmaps:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/ZpePf.jpeg

I managed to trace one IP address from the email headers when sending them emails:
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July 20, 2023, 09:58:23 AM
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Yes, I agree they are counteracting. However, the withdrawal functionality doesn't work. When asked why, it's because I need to pay taxes first. Also, they are sending emails with the withdrawal issue restoration from the private Gmail mailbox idiming6@gmail.com:


Regarding the company registration. When asked them in the chat, they said this is their company: UK’s government website. I think they appropriated this company name and have nothing in common with that company. Regarding the building in Glasgow - my friend lives in the UK and went to check their office. He found nothing interesting there. It's a fake office location. Was the office picture taken from internet? It seems so, here is their "headquarters" in Gmaps:


I managed to trace one IP address from the email headers when sending them emails:



That company is not theirs, "Bitcoin Mining Company, Ltd." registered under "#12145667" has their own website  with a clear statement that it's their one and only website, as well as a clear difference of office address,



While for the image they used, you don't even need to use maps's streetview to prove it, simply typing the address into the search engine will bring you a lot of image to be used; this website, for example,

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That company is not theirs, "Bitcoin Mining Company, Ltd." registered under "#12145667" has their own website  with a clear statement that it's their one and only website, as well as a clear difference of office address,

Thank you for helping me. OKX hasn't responded yet. Do you think there is no other way to track the scammers?
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That company is not theirs, "Bitcoin Mining Company, Ltd." registered under "#12145667" has their own website  with a clear statement that it's their one and only website, as well as a clear difference of office address,

Thank you for helping me. OKX hasn't responded yet. Do you think there is no other way to track the scammers?


To level with you, address digging is not exactly my forte, so I can't be a help for this matter, but I think even if an excellent address tracker helped you get to the bottom of the wallet transfer chain, there's a huge chance we still can't pinpoint it to one entity. The pseudo-anonymity of crypto could be a double-edged sword for cases like this, especially for cases like yours where there's no further info we could use as a starting point.

The company is fake, the legal body they mentioned is stolen from others, the IPs are inconsistent [though it's quite obvious it will be]. I think your best shot right now, and it's quite far-fetched, is if you can present your case enough for OKX to freeze the account and reveal the KYC document for that account and filed a criminal complaint toward the user; but like what already presented on this thread, even the KYC itself could be fake and bought, so your filed complaint could still be for nothing.

I don't think I can be much help for you in tracking down to an entity.

Alternatively, and it's also quite unlikely to be realized, if OKX ever replied to you and considered your appeal, maybe you can ask them to "reimburse" you by draining the remaining balance of that user to yours... yeah, as said on the earlier part of this sentence, it's also quite unlikely to be realized.

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July 21, 2023, 03:32:46 PM
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To level with you, address digging is not exactly my forte, so I can't be a help for this matter, but I think even if an excellent address tracker helped you get to the bottom of the wallet transfer chain, there's a huge chance we still can't pinpoint it to one entity. The pseudo-anonymity of crypto could be a double-edged sword for cases like this, especially for cases like yours where there's no further info we could use as a starting point.

I found on their page new addresses allowed for depositing crypto:
1. TJjzBnVLJjbJRic9JhSqRLYWHcyyMjKjrh USDT-TRC20
2. 0xea5796bcf3f2ff15be2369af8c6278df9680d6f8 USDT-ERC20
3. MDT7CkwTXucXS1VReQumCo9GgGQKfnyNKa LTC-Litecoin
4. 0xea5796bcf3f2ff15be2369af8c6278df9680d6f8 ETH-TRC20
5. 3Lhy4FoCDuExGosmxyrTUpH4zvv4aP1Az1 - BTC
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July 21, 2023, 04:39:55 PM
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Sorry for your loss, really big loss, this space is full of scammers, but IDMINING scammer beat all other scammers in scamming tactics.

Anyway, I hope you will succeed in your endeavors with OKX exchange, I don't want to disappoint you but I doubt they will respond positively to you, at best they could freeze the scammer money but I doubt they will return the stolen money to you.

In any case, you should keep trying and do not despair, at least if you do not succeed in recovering the money, you may succeed in freezing the scammer account.

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